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Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on
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Went ahead and traded my built 01' Cobra in for a 2005 Caddy CTS-V. Got a good price on it, with low miles. Ummm... Can't really say I'm missing the Cobra lol...
The Cobra:
and then the Caddy:
the guy that owned it before me was the original owner. He powder coated the stock wheels, lowered it on Eibach Prokits, and he rolled the fenders. So far I'm in love!! It's stock besides a K&N intake, it ran a 13.4 @ 111 on some shitty 245 tires... I think 12's with Some good tires is possible.
Posted by CobraChick (Member # 9885) on
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Definitely like the Caddy more! Congrats on the new ride
Posted by Mach103 (Member # 746) on
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Hey scott its Mario the caddy is off the hook good choice shit is clean... one day we need to get dustin to take pictures of the caddy and the TBSS.... If you want any future mods done hit me up and ill send you my buddies way SEAN04.... Dustin knows him too and he saw his caddy at the track this past weekend.....
Posted by BlowN67 (Member # 4229) on
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hope u do the irs brace. heard those cars are bad with wheel hop.. looks kool though.
any parts left from cobra?
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on
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can you say come up? That is grown folks stuff there. Looks hella clean
Posted by Le Blanc (Member # 6602) on
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Ahhh blasphemy! Nah I'm just playing, Lord Vader is sick with it! Corsa exhaust and Long tubes should be your first investment IMO...
Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on
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Mario: does he have a V?? And pics for sure!!
John: I've got some 03 Mach 1 heads in good shape. And it wheel hops no more than my cobra did, but the diffs are weak on these. Pretty much the only downfall on the car....
Thanks guys!
Posted by bottled95GT?? (Member # 1772) on
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Thing looks sick. Careful at the track, saw one spit its rearend all over lol. Wasn't pretty. But nice come up.
Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on
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Mario: does he have a V?? And pics for sure!!
John: I've got some 03 Mach 1 heads in good shape. And it wheel hops no more than my cobra did, but the diffs are weak on these. Pretty much the only downfall on the car....
Thanks guys!
Posted by JohnCM (Member # 1076) on
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Looks sweet man, I was real close to picking one up a few months ago, But decided to hold out for an 03/04 Cobra.
The rear ends are supposed to be okay as long as you're not a stupid driver. If it wheel hops let out, or you could stay in the gas and destroy it lol
Nice car
Posted by Eddie510- (Member # 2354) on
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Way better than the cobra!! ![[worship]](graemlins/worship.gif)
is that the one on craigslist that wanted 18k??? I was going to get one rather than the truck. now im wishing i got 1 ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on
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I just got rid of my 93 cobra. Bought a house with some of the money. Dont miss it one bit. ![[burnout]](graemlins/burnout.gif)
Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on
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Damn, I was trying to figure out what you were doing dumping all the Cobra parts. Looks nice though, as long as it makes you happy then roll with it.
Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on
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yeah definitely more baller than a 01 cobra.
Posted by 93redcobra (Member # 1344) on
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looks good, congrats ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Posted by MikeD. (Member # 8060) on
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Come up! I love it!
Posted by 90fox5.0 (Member # 9338) on
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big come up love the car man.
Posted by 93ReefBlue5.0 (Member # 5780) on
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that looks sick scott! u dd that thing?
are the mach heads u have stock?
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on
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Nice ride... Im jealous for sure, I have been wanting 1 for a while, but I love my Mach too much to let er go...
I predict that you are done with Fords now LOL...
Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on
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thanks guys! I really like it!
Yes the Mach heads are stock. I have brand new FR500 valve springs for the right price. And yes theeee..... Cadillac is my DD lol!
Dustin. If you made the jump you might be as well. Lol
Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on
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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
Dustin. If you made the jump you might be as well. Lol
I respect what those cars are & I would LOVE to own 1. I respect what GM engines do, but I couldn't stand to be stangless. Gotta at least have 1. Plus, Ford stepped it up with the new 5.0...
Like I said to you when you got the car, Just please don't turn into another 1 of those guys that bashes Ford's just because you have a GM product now. A couple of other buddies who were die hard ford flip flopped & then became Ford haters & LSX nut lickers... LOL
[ May 12, 2010, 02:36 AM: Message edited by: EPIK ]
Posted by 8stang8 (Member # 8082) on
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Those cadis are nice I drove a relatives cts a couple times. They move pretty good.
I woulda done the same thing and let the cobra go.
Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on
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Dustin. Don't lecture me. Lol
I'll prolly end up with a fox one of these days....
Posted by 04 S281 (Member # 9229) on
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I guess it's a nice car... I woulda kept the Cobra. Something about Cadillac makes me uneasy... like the fact you can get a 4-6 year old $100k car (2004-2006 XLR's) for like $18k-$24k? Or the formerly $50k+ CTS-V for $12k-$20k?
Meanwhile, 8-10 year old Z06's (MSRP $50K) are still selling for $17k-$20k... even the 99-01 Cobra's (MSRP $28k-$32k) still sell for $10-$15k... You can even go back around 20-22 years and look at 80's-90's 5.0's... original MSRP was like $12k-$16k... and they still sell for like $5k and in some cases still sell at MSRP!!!
So 75-80% depreciation versus 50-66%... all in the same economy... Fuck that... I'm straight like indian hair...
[ May 12, 2010, 01:55 PM: Message edited by: 04 S281 ]
Posted by 04 S281 (Member # 9229) on
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*double post
[ May 12, 2010, 01:58 PM: Message edited by: 04 S281 ]
Posted by threethirty1 (Member # 7814) on
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6 speed, right?
Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on
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quote:
Originally posted by 04 S281:
I guess it's a nice car... I woulda kept the Cobra. Something about Cadillac makes me uneasy... like the fact you can get a 4-6 year old $100k car (2004-2006 XLR's) for like $18k-$24k? Or the formerly $50k+ CTS-V for $12k-$20k?
Meanwhile, 8-10 year old Z06's (MSRP $50K) are still selling for $17k-$20k... even the 99-01 Cobra's (MSRP $28k-$32k) still sell for $10-$15k... You can even go back around 20-22 years and look at 80's-90's 5.0's... original MSRP was like $12k-$16k... and they still sell for like $5k and in some cases still sell at MSRP!!!
So 75-80% depreciation versus 50-66%... all in the same economy... Fuck that... I'm straight like indian hair...
you guess it's a nice car? Lol it's no non-supercharged S281, but I do what I can.....
......because we should all buy our vehicles from an investment standpoint....??? An enthusiast's vehicle at that.... I think demand plays into your logic as well, which you left out of the equation.
Bottom line is. I'm done with mustangs. 4.6's to be exact. I've been throught the ringer, twice lol.... I can see myself owning another fox in the next few years. I've had roughly 9 mustangs, I've done my time lol and it's time for change is all, a much needed and welcome change! Haha
[ May 12, 2010, 03:17 PM: Message edited by: RED@7kVERT *8850GT* ]
Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on
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Originally posted by threethirty1:
6 speed, right?
LS6 with a 6 speed, yes.
Posted by threethirty1 (Member # 7814) on
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Nice, sounds like a fun car.
Posted by gtowned. (Member # 8156) on
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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
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Originally posted by 04 S281:
I guess it's a nice car... I woulda kept the Cobra. Something about Cadillac makes me uneasy... like the fact you can get a 4-6 year old $100k car (2004-2006 XLR's) for like $18k-$24k? Or the formerly $50k+ CTS-V for $12k-$20k?
Meanwhile, 8-10 year old Z06's (MSRP $50K) are still selling for $17k-$20k... even the 99-01 Cobra's (MSRP $28k-$32k) still sell for $10-$15k... You can even go back around 20-22 years and look at 80's-90's 5.0's... original MSRP was like $12k-$16k... and they still sell for like $5k and in some cases still sell at MSRP!!!
So 75-80% depreciation versus 50-66%... all in the same economy... Fuck that... I'm straight like indian hair...
you guess it's a nice car? Lol it's no non-supercharged S281, but I do what I can.....
Hahahahahahaha
Posted by 04 S281 (Member # 9229) on
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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
you guess it's a nice car? Lol it's no non-supercharged S281, but I do what I can.....
......because we should all buy our vehicles from an investment standpoint....??? An enthusiast's vehicle at that.... I think demand plays into your logic as well, which you left out of the equation.
Bottom line is. I'm done with mustangs. 4.6's to be exact. I've been throught the ringer, twice lol.... I can see myself owning another fox in the next few years. I've had roughly 9 mustangs, I've done my time lol and it's time for change is all, a much needed and welcome change! Haha
Not really an investment stand point, but depreciation and resale can be an indicator to both demand (or lack therof) and build quality. You can look at, say, Honda VS Dai Woo... where as Honda has great resale value and Dai Woo does not... simply because Honda's are better built cars, AND AS SUCH, are in higher demand.
This line of thought is my exact feeling towards GM products, especially the earlier Non-Corvette LSX powered cars... (Such as the Camaro/Trans Am twins, GTO, and first Gen CTS-V's) which seem like cheaply made cars with a great motor and trans stuffed in them. and the price hiked up.
Not to say it isn't a great performing car... Just my opinion, in no way OTHER THAN HOREPOWER, AND REAR PASSANGER/TRUNK SPACE, can it be considered a step-up from a limited production SVT Cobra... a convertible, at that... Your Cobra was 1 of like 3,300... one of the lowest production years of any 99-04 New Edge Cobra's... and your color (if that was the original color) was 1 of 356...
It's your car and your money... as long as you're happy, cool. I'm just saying I would've never ever ever got rid of a Cobra for a Cadillac... Unless the Cobra had serious problems or high mileage... I just hope you got a decent penny for the Cobra, and I hope the CTS-V has significantly less mileage than the Cobra did.
Look, I'm not trying to be an ass, or a hater, or whatever... I just wouldn't have got that car over a Cobra. Maybe as a daily driver and keep the Cobra... but not as a replacement. Also not a big fan of sedans... Unless you have a growing family or shop at CostCo on a regular... Also, I can respect the being "done with Mustangs" and needing a change thing... I went thru the same thing before. But i couldn't stay away. 4 months of being a BMW owner, and i ran back!
Anyway, I may be jumping to conclusions... you're in the 916, i'd love to check that thing out in person sometime...
[ May 12, 2010, 05:55 PM: Message edited by: 04 S281 ]
Posted by 03SVTPower (Member # 518) on
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I think it looks sick, love the stance and it aint no slouch for a sedan, i wish my grocery getter ran 12's lol!
Posted by svfreerider87 (Member # 5748) on
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ms4 cam, longtubes, underdrive pulley, 32lb fast injectors= a very stout little bolt on combo for the ls6. (topped off with a newtech tune of course)
Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on
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Welcome to the Dark Side! It ain't a bad place to be. Congrats on the new ride. Check into G Force 1320. They have an economical set of axles for the V's that have been proven to solve wheelhop. The more power you make, the worse it gets. I have a set coming for the GXP.
[ May 12, 2010, 10:02 PM: Message edited by: iceman302 ]
Posted by LX306hatch (Member # 9151) on
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THAT FUC&^N CADDY IS HARD clean as hell bro gotta give it up to you keep it clean..
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Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on
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UPGRADE!
Posted by M&M Performance *BlownMach1* (Member # 5400) on
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Originally posted by 04 S281:
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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
you guess it's a nice car? Lol it's no non-supercharged S281, but I do what I can.....
......because we should all buy our vehicles from an investment standpoint....??? An enthusiast's vehicle at that.... I think demand plays into your logic as well, which you left out of the equation.
Bottom line is. I'm done with mustangs. 4.6's to be exact. I've been throught the ringer, twice lol.... I can see myself owning another fox in the next few years. I've had roughly 9 mustangs, I've done my time lol and it's time for change is all, a much needed and welcome change! Haha
Not really an investment stand point, but depreciation and resale can be an indicator to both demand (or lack therof) and build quality. You can look at, say, Honda VS Dai Woo... where as Honda has great resale value and Dai Woo does not... simply because Honda's are better built cars, AND AS SUCH, are in higher demand.
This line of thought is my exact feeling towards GM products, especially the earlier Non-Corvette LSX powered cars... (Such as the Camaro/Trans Am twins, GTO, and first Gen CTS-V's) which seem like cheaply made cars with a great motor and trans stuffed in them. and the price hiked up.
Not to say it isn't a great performing car... Just my opinion, in no way OTHER THAN HOREPOWER, AND REAR PASSANGER/TRUNK SPACE, can it be considered a step-up from a limited production SVT Cobra... a convertible, at that... Your Cobra was 1 of like 3,300... one of the lowest production years of any 99-04 New Edge Cobra's... and your color (if that was the original color) was 1 of 356...
It's your car and your money... as long as you're happy, cool. I'm just saying I would've never ever ever got rid of a Cobra for a Cadillac... Unless the Cobra had serious problems or high mileage... I just hope you got a decent penny for the Cobra, and I hope the CTS-V has significantly less mileage than the Cobra did.
Look, I'm not trying to be an ass, or a hater, or whatever... I just wouldn't have got that car over a Cobra. Maybe as a daily driver and keep the Cobra... but not as a replacement. Also not a big fan of sedans... Unless you have a growing family or shop at CostCo on a regular... Also, I can respect the being "done with Mustangs" and needing a change thing... I went thru the same thing before. But i couldn't stay away. 4 months of being a BMW owner, and i ran back!
Anyway, I may be jumping to conclusions... you're in the 916, i'd love to check that thing out in person sometime...
everyone has their own opinion on everything..but as for resale purposes then yes u make a fair point..i own a silver 01 vert and i love scotts new car and respect his opinion..lets make a long story short and say the grocery getter is FASTER than my cobra and that was already proved! i think thats awesome but ur point is valid but his comment which u missed was that u own a non supercharged saleen, ok it was around 40k new and now worth maybe 15k to the right buyer..also it will run a 14.3 at the track stock..his new car runs 13.5s stock or better? for him he wanted a nice powerful comfortable car that gets attention and suprises the shit outta saleens when they are left 5 or more cars back! scott all that matters is that u are happy with ur choice! congrats my friend!
Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on
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^^
Well said Casey!! And.... I'm not sure if it was proven, but we can go with that if you'd like. Hahaha
Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on
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I sold my Cobra to get my 540 and don't regret the decision one bit. I miss the Cobra sometimes but overall I'm happier with my Bimmer for sure.
Posted by 87droptop50 (Member # 7185) on
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congrats on the purchase . I might be in the market for one in a few months .ls6 & 6speed can't get any better for a DD
Posted by jello (Member # 9896) on
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Fuck that... I'm straight like indian hair... quote:
This shit had me rollin.... Ummm, about the caddi?, its ok!
Posted by 89bluenotch (Member # 7454) on
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Very nice caddy!
Posted by LETHL 03 (Member # 5401) on
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BAD ASS!!!
Posted by 04 S281 (Member # 9229) on
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Originally posted by M&M Performance *BlownMach1*:
but his comment which u missed was that u own a non supercharged saleen, ok it was around 40k new and now worth maybe 15k to the right buyer..also it will run a 14.3 at the track stock..his new car runs 13.5s stock or better?
I didn't miss his comment, I simply ignored it for lack of relevance. My opinion of the CTS-V doesn't stem from what I own, but from my past experience buying and selling cars.
first, yeah, I own a Non-supercharged Saleen... a 2004 20th Anniversary Speedster... so? it was around $40k new, stills sells for $22k to $24, and still books for $29k thru insurance. I have 16k miles, 1 of 380, 1 of 14 in Sonic Blue, 1 of 2 Speedsters with optional chrome wheels. so... it's worth more than your standard 100k mile 99-04... which is what you'd end up with buying a Mustang, or a Saleen for $15k.
second, it's rated 14.0 stock. if you're into that drag racing sort of thing. I didn't buy my car based on horsepower and performance, if that was my goal, I would have bought a Cobra, or a Mach 1 or LS1 Camaro and supercharged it with the money I saved.
third, MY POINT, wasn't saying I had a better car than the CTS-V, it was that IN MY OPINION, the Cobra was a better car than the CTS-V... and that I wouldn't have bought it, or that I would have kept the Cobra, and got the CTS-V as a daily.
Like I said, I was never a fan of 4 door cars, and in my dealings and both my own, and experience thru friends and family, Cadillac's are poorly put together and have terrible longevity and value. Maybe the CTS-V is different, I've never driven or rode in one. But i personally wouldn't take that chance if I had a 01 Cobra at home.
If a performance sedan is what I wanted, I would have gone with an M5, 335i, WRX STI, or EVO IX... or MAYBE the CTS-V in a straight trade for the Cobra, if the Caddy had half the miles of the Cobra. But I wouldn't have come outta pocket for the Caddy, unless it had 1/4 the miles of the Cobra... straight up. Or it was the newer supercharged CTS-V.
Posted by 04 S281 (Member # 9229) on
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Originally posted by M&M Performance *BlownMach1*:
his new car runs 13.5s stock or better? for him he wanted a nice powerful comfortable car that gets attention and suprises the shit outta saleens when they are left 5 or more cars back! scott all that matters is that u are happy with ur choice! congrats my friend!
I do agree with this statement tho... if it's what he wanted, then congrats. and it is cool to wax sportscars with a sedan... a Caddy of all things.
Once you get that thing sorted out, maybe a friendly run at Sac Raceway? haha... i have no problem being beat by a sedan.
Posted by SF89lLx (Member # 3965) on
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caddies are a headache, goodluck
Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on
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who gives a crap..he a bought a car simply cuz he freakin likes it and not cuz hes trying to minimize depreciation over time and reduce losses when he sells. if that was the case, he wouldve gotten a nissan or one of those other cars that have a great resale value. these are all valid points you bring up when considering buying a car and but when its all said and done it really comes down to whether u like the car or not, all things considered. obviously resale value was not his priority..he likes the car and thats all that matters for his situation. ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
[ May 13, 2010, 09:00 PM: Message edited by: venomous99 ]
Posted by gtowned. (Member # 8156) on
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All this resale value bullshit would be valid if he bought the car new.He bought it used for a killer price.The depreciation has already hit someone else.
Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on
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Originally posted by SF89lLx:
caddies are a headache, goodluck
Northstar V8's are a headache. Thanks tho.....
And let's all get really real here. I bought a Caddy, not another mustang. I guess this.... Animosity?? Is to be expect on a Ford enthusiast forum. But it's all good. I got what I wanted and I'm happy it. Hell, the CTS-V is in everyway better than my Cobra, yes, in every aspect. Did I mention that there's no way on this green earth that my 3,4000lb Cobra with an intake could have run a 13.4 @ 111 on street tires, as the 4,000lb Caddy with an intake did 2 Wednesdays ago???
[ May 13, 2010, 10:50 PM: Message edited by: RED@7kVERT *8850GT* ]
Posted by ugotsmoked (Member # 6069) on
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I like the car buddy.... actually, i want to drive it again. lol
Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on
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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
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Originally posted by SF89lLx:
caddies are a headache, goodluck
Northstar V8's are a headache. Thanks tho.....
And let's all get really real here. I bought a Caddy, not another mustang. I guess this.... Animosity?? Is to be expect on a Ford enthusiast forum. But it's all good. I got what I wanted and I'm happy it. Hell, the CTS-V is in everyway better than my Cobra, yes, in every aspect. Did I mention that there's no way on this green earth that my 3,4000lb Cobra with an intake could have run a 13.4 @ 111 on street tires, as the 4,000lb Caddy with an intake did 2 Wednesdays ago???
The Caddy weighs 4000 lbs? That's slightly more than my GXP... funny since the Caddy looks so much smaller.
Posted by 50DADDY (Member # 3076) on
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Another fallen soldier.
Posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT* (Member # 5909) on
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Originally posted by iceman302:
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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
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Originally posted by SF89lLx:
caddies are a headache, goodluck
Northstar V8's are a headache. Thanks tho.....
And let's all get really real here. I bought a Caddy, not another mustang. I guess this.... Animosity?? Is to be expect on a Ford enthusiast forum. But it's all good. I got what I wanted and I'm happy it. Hell, the CTS-V is in everyway better than my Cobra, yes, in every aspect. Did I mention that there's no way on this green earth that my 3,4000lb Cobra with an intake could have run a 13.4 @ 111 on street tires, as the 4,000lb Caddy with an intake did 2 Wednesdays ago???
The Caddy weighs 4000 lbs? That's slightly more than my GXP... funny since the Caddy looks so much smaller.
well, 3,820 without me in it. Lol but who's counting....
Posted by iceman302 (Member # 7180) on
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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
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Originally posted by iceman302:
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Originally posted by RED@7kVERT *8850GT*:
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Originally posted by SF89lLx:
caddies are a headache, goodluck
Northstar V8's are a headache. Thanks tho.....
And let's all get really real here. I bought a Caddy, not another mustang. I guess this.... Animosity?? Is to be expect on a Ford enthusiast forum. But it's all good. I got what I wanted and I'm happy it. Hell, the CTS-V is in everyway better than my Cobra, yes, in every aspect. Did I mention that there's no way on this green earth that my 3,4000lb Cobra with an intake could have run a 13.4 @ 111 on street tires, as the 4,000lb Caddy with an intake did 2 Wednesdays ago???
The Caddy weighs 4000 lbs? That's slightly more than my GXP... funny since the Caddy looks so much smaller.
well, 3,820 without me in it. Lol but who's counting....
That makes more sense the GXP weighs a bit over 3900 stock...
Posted by 87droptop50 (Member # 7185) on
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the mrs. and i are drooling over this one...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cadillac-CTS-2006-Cadillac-CTS-V-Low-Miles-Custom-Wheels-NAVI-LOADED-/230473049191?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item35a943a467
Posted by Mach916 (Member # 8264) on
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i to am thinking about a cts-v..how does it handle compared to your cobra??
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