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Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

I figured this one deserves its own thread.

Sold the '67 and bought a '69 Deluxe Fastback

-99% original
-351W
-San Jose car
-Deluxe black and woodgrain interior with tilt-away
-fold-down rear seat
-trunk light
-trap door.
-Winter Blue Metallic
-Rust free undercarriage
-Rebuilt motor and trans (low miles) Runs and drives

[ January 06, 2010, 10:15 PM: Message edited by: bwkelley76 ]

Posted by STANGBOY (Member # 7868) on :

how much

Posted by SHOalex (Member # 7720) on :

quote:
Originally posted by STANGBOY:
how much

Hahahahaha Im laughing my ass off at your signature

Posted by its50 (Member # 4069) on :

sweet ride [patriot]

Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :

That thing is fuckin ill man!!

Hell yeah. One of my favorite cars!!

My neighbor had a 68 deluxe fastback with a 428 4 speed in it in that same color when I was growing up. He let it just sit outside in his side yard. It is still sitting there. He is/was a navy seal.

Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
That thing is fuckin ill man!!

Hell yeah. One of my favorite cars!!

My neighbor had a 68 deluxe fastback with a 428 4 speed in it in that same color when I was growing up. He let it just sit outside in his side yard. It is still sitting there. He is/was a navy seal.

He want to sell it?

Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :

NICE!!! I've always loved 69-70 fastbacks...the bodystyle screams "MUSCLE"! [worship]

ALl that thing needs is a nice paint job and some nice Shelby or Mach 1 wheels and you're set [Whoo Whooooo!]

Posted by BULLITTMAN (Member # 8468) on :

Very nice find, lucky you! The baddest mustang body style hands down and my all time favorite... [worship]

Posted by RODRIGUEZ (Member # 9104) on :

What those the "deluxe" stand for?

Posted by 2Foxes2Five0Coupes (Member # 9154) on :

Looks a lil constipated all stock with the fading 40+ year old paint.... Add some mild (Or wild) mods with your resto and I'm sure you'll have it "shittin" all over Cafords soon enough! [burnout]

Posted by Ty (Member # 4920) on :

welcome to the club, my fastback was basically the same model except a 302 4 speed car

Posted by slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :

^ I didn't know your fastback was a original 4spd car [patriot]

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

Thanks for all the inspiration everyone. After my heavily modded '67 I must admit I'm having a tough time with this one. She's a rare bird and I don't want to ruin her value by hopping her up too much.

There are sooo many things I could do to make this one a racer but I think she's just going to be a cruiser. I might just make her handle a little better and do some minor upgrades, maybe a cam and heads on the stock block and some good sounding exhaust.

This one has beauty queen written all over it. lol. The car is in great shape except for the usual restoration necessities. The body is straight as an arrow, everything works, no major rust, and the motor runs really well.

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

Engine Bay BEFORE...

AFTER 2 weeks of dedication

Posted by 89bluenotch (Member # 7454) on :

Looks a lot better [patriot]

Posted by bigjerry (Member # 6033) on :

those are my favorite fastbacks

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

Engine bay is 99% complete.

Installed battery, tower braces and air cleaner sticker.

CHANGING AIR CLEANER BADGE

Here's the new air cleaner sticker. I like this better. It's definitely more what I had in mind.
I think without it the engine bay looks too boring, just needed a little color.

[ January 15, 2010, 01:36 AM: Message edited by: bwkelley76 ]

Posted by SPTVENM (Member # 7080) on :

[worship]

Posted by Mach 5oh (Member # 9497) on :

Shiiiiiitt are those minilite racing wheels on there? I'd keep those on there, they scream trans-am racer.

Posted by Jdub07 (Member # 2728) on :

Please share with me how you cleaned up the engine bay like that and what you used!?!? I'm looking to do just that! [patriot]

Posted by phil a (Member # 6951) on :

I don't see J's fat ass anywhere around there. Don't try and tell me he's actually working on something.

Nice car.

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

Definitely going with this

[ January 15, 2010, 01:39 AM: Message edited by: bwkelley76 ]

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

Air Cleaner looks MUCH better...

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

So believe it or not the paint polishes out on this thing!

Never in a million years would I have thought it could be possible.

Posted by 89bluenotch (Member # 7454) on :

Wow a lot better....take a pic of the whole car when finished

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

will do! I've got near half the car all wet-sanded already. I doubt I'll have it all done this weekend but if I do I could have pics up as early as Monday. We'll see.

Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :

Looks sik

Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :

Wow nice polish job

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

Driver's side is just about done!

[ January 25, 2010, 04:10 AM: Message edited by: bwkelley76 ]

Posted by Eddie510- (Member # 2354) on :

[worship]

some people woulda never thought about doing that and just painted it! sick! [worship]

Posted by 89bluenotch (Member # 7454) on :

Looks great...a whole new car [patriot]

Posted by Mach 5oh (Member # 9497) on :

What kind of polish are you using?

Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :

Looking good. You don't need to repaint it now.

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

It's not perfect, still a few areas that I'll never get back or that I went a little too far but I'm learning here. lol It looks a LOT better though and I don't have to paint it; right away at least.

I used 0000 steel wool (wet) to take off the INSANE amounts of oxidation and discolored metal/flake in the topcoat. 2000 paper (wet) then 3M rubbing compoound with the combo of an orbital buffer as well as a regular buffer. I'll be finishing off with a clear-coat type polish using the orbital.

Posted by AbominableSnoman... (Member # 8290) on :

nice, its day and night bro.

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

Thanks! I haven't done much to the paint recently, it's still half-way done. I did however get a chance to do the exhaust (at least the back half) with all mandrel 2.5" with 3"chrome tips. I still need to ditch the stock manifolds and install headers and an X or H pipe. Time is not of essence these days with school and other cars at the shop. I wish I could clone myself and get this thing done faster!

[ February 08, 2010, 03:36 AM: Message edited by: bwkelley76 ]

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

all the sanding is DONE! Damn that was a lot of work. Hopefully I'll get the buffing part done in the next day or two.

Posted by AIRFORMANCE MOBILE AUTO A/C 707 (Member # 6243) on :

does the ac work

Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by bwkelley76:
all the sanding is DONE! Damn that was a lot of work. Hopefully I'll get the buffing part done in the next day or two.

Just imagine if you were repainting it. Took me a year and a half to do my car. I took my time though.

Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :

Lucky SOB

Love them 67-70 Fastbacks.

Posted by 166 Merlot (Member # 1549) on :

come up! i love unmolested all original classics. looks like you did a nice job inside the bay too. pun?

Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :

show the before pics of it just sanded

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

<<<Yes the AC works. Before pics are of oxidized paint, page 1 I believe. No pics of it sanded, I didn't get a chance to take a break and take a pic while I was sanding.

So it's almost done! A few minor touch-up areas and some wax and that's it.

Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :

I just got to say wow good job [patriot]

Posted by Mach 5oh (Member # 9497) on :

man i wish i had a 69 fastback

Posted by 95GTConvtACE (Member # 6399) on :

If the previous owner is watching the rebuild, he is kicking himself right now.lol. Sweet ride.

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

Thanks! Now back to the mechanical stuff.

[ February 13, 2010, 02:23 AM: Message edited by: bwkelley76 ]

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

crazy thing... Mustang started running crappy the other day.

It was acting like maybe the power valve in the carb (Holley 600) was going out. Every time I tried to give it gas under power it acted like a rev-limiter, like too much or not enough fuel was present.

Everything except the carb (mystery item and kinda drab looking) is less than a month old including plugs, wires, cap, rotor, and ignition coil, so I decided to kit the carb. I already had a freshen-up kit on the shelf so thought it wouldn't hurt.

Problem was still there!

So I moved on to the ignition and realized the pertronix module did not match the coil I had (pertronix I and pertronix II are not compatible) so I replaced the pertronix module to match the better P2 coil.

Still, didn't fix the problem! Actually made it worse! SO at that point I knew I had a secondary ignition leak somewhere so I swapped out the cap and rotor for a known/good one. That didn't fix it either. I finally looked at the wires and plugs a little closer. The plugs at first glance looked PERFECT.

Sure enough, with a closer look a few of my month-old spark plugs had trails on them and were arcing to ground along the electrodes instead of jumping the gap. VERY MINOR and hard to see traces were found on 4 of them. I got a bad batch I guess. NEVER had a problem like this with an autolite. So I replaced the plugs and all is well.

She runs great again. ...In all my years I've never had one of my own cars suffer from spark plug arcing and I've always used autolites. I've had customers' do it with old/used champion and other brand plugs but never mine. Guess my number was up! lol

[ February 16, 2010, 03:59 AM: Message edited by: bwkelley76 ]

Posted by 89bluenotch (Member # 7454) on :

The car looks great! [patriot]

Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on :

WOW.. this thing looks GREAT!!!! Keep the pics coming..

cafords needs more threads like this one of people showing the project(s) they are working on. [patriot]

Seems like General Talk is filled with too many useless shit talking and Youtube threads.. LOL

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

[ February 17, 2010, 01:37 AM: Message edited by: bwkelley76 ]

Posted by 95331StrimVert (Member # 6250) on :

Nice car.

Posted by t top freak (Member # 6269) on :

god damn that turned out fantastic [patriot]

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

thanks! It's not flawless by any means but definitely a good 20-footer...lol I want to put the black Mach decals on it and a rear spoiler, front chin, etc. SOON!

Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :

Awesome car!

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

thanks!

Posted by 2Foxes2Five0Coupes (Member # 9154) on :

Beautiful!!!... Now "butter" up them tires. [Wink]

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

<<yeah the tires actually still have blue stuff all over them from the wet-sanding. The car still needs a bath and a final polish before she gets the tire "seal" of approval. lol

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

Posted by Sydewayz 24/7 (Member # 8725) on :

That thing is lookin nice for wat you did it came out good cant be leave that was the same paint from before and when you plan on painting it is it going the same color [worship]

Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on :

Great looking Stang. [patriot]

Posted by BULLITTMAN (Member # 8468) on :

I thought the car was beautiful when you first bought it, but now it's a work of art...great job, makes me want a 69 fastback even more now....

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

Thanks for all the reinforcement guys! It makes me appreciate it that much more. It's been a lot of work for sure. I can't wait to get all the Mach-1 stuff on it (stripes, etc). I think it will make it that much more of an awesome car.

On Friday I got the B&M stall converter installed, serviced the transmission, and adjusted the bands, as well as replaced the trans mount with a polyurethane replacement. Coming soon will be 3.50 gears and 31 spline axles.

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

Had a little mishap the other day. The alternator and/or regulator shorted out, burnt ALL the wires, all the way through, and almost caught fire.

Got it all fixed tonight, replaced both components and fixed all the wiring. I used to have a battery draw and that is all gone now too. (figures) So it's all better now. I'm really glad she didn't catch fire!

Posted by AbominableSnoman... (Member # 8290) on :

quote:
Originally posted by bwkelley76:
Had a little mishap the other day. The alternator and/or regulator shorted out, burnt ALL the wires, all the way through, and almost caught fire.

Got it all fixed tonight, replaced both components and fixed all the wiring. I used to have a battery draw and that is all gone now too. (figures) So it's all better now. I'm really glad she didn't catch fire!

it turned out great bro, its a goal to make your car the hottest around, but nobody wants it to be that hot. lmao, jk. glad it didnt catch on fire man.

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

<<<Yeah serious.
Got some more work done on the car today... Replaced strut rod bushings and aligned the front-end. Also adjusted the modulator valve on the trans to raise shift points.

Alignment specs came out pretty nice...
Caster is 2.6 degrees on both sides, camber is -.5 on right and -.3 on left, toe is in 1/8". Drives a lot better.

[ February 27, 2010, 12:03 AM: Message edited by: bwkelley76 ]

Posted by 2tone2be (Member # 9346) on :

dayummmmmm nice car man.

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

Thanks!

Goofin around with the pics. What do ya think?

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

Just scored a set of brand new, never used ceramic coated full length Headers off craigslist for $200
...HKR 6901-1's

[Smile]

Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :

quote:
Originally posted by bwkelley76:
Just scored a set of brand new, never used ceramic coated full length Headers off craigslist for $200
...HKR 6901-1's

Sick nice score

Posted by 68dustin (Member # 5388) on :

STICK TO BUILDING CARS!! ur photochop sucks..lol.. i think it would look sick with the black tail panel and rear spoiler

[ March 08, 2010, 01:27 AM: Message edited by: 68dustin ]

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

Headers went right in, don't even need a PS drop bracket. A little close to the floor and the frame on the driver's side but I can work with it. [Smile]

Fabricating the mid section and x-pipe tomorrow.

Posted by OZZY (Member # 9017) on :

quote:
Originally posted by bwkelley76:
Thanks for all the inspiration everyone. After my heavily modded '67 I must admit I'm having a tough time with this one. She's a rare bird and I don't want to ruin her value by hopping her up too much.

There are sooo many things I could do to make this one a racer but I think she's just going to be a cruiser. I might just make her handle a little better and do some minor upgrades, maybe a cam and heads on the stock block and some good sounding exhaust.

This one has beauty queen written all over it. lol. The car is in great shape except for the usual restoration necessities. The body is straight as an arrow, everything works, no major rust, and the motor runs really well.

Agree with you 100% that car is money in the bank! Nice car man curious to see what it looks like with some fresh paint! What color you gonna go with?

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

Probably going to stick with the original color, same as it is now, winter blue metallic. I will probably be giving it the Mach1 treatment for now though, just decals, spoilers, etc. I don't have a ton of cash right now to do paint, interior, and everything else. So for now I'm just sticking with the essentials and a few mechanical upgrades. The paint is going to have to wait for a while.

[ March 11, 2010, 12:31 AM: Message edited by: bwkelley76 ]

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

Exhaust is in!

Still need to clean the flux-core slag off the welds, might paint it all with high-temp paint as well, we'll see.

Not bad for garage work.

Posted by 68dustin (Member # 5388) on :

looks good!! no vid???

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

<<nah not yet, all I have is my cell phone for sound, enough said...lol. I'll see if I can't get a decent quality video one of these days of it running.

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

Ordered a Comp Cams "Thumpr" camshaft, should be here tomorrow. [Smile]

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

Cam is installed, everything looks good, valve springs still have quite a bit more to go before coil-bind.

I realized quickly that this motor has the non-adjustable rocker studs (common for '69). Those are the non-adjustable 3/8 studs with iddy-biddy 5/16 threads that you just torque all the way down and hope it works. Lame on Ford's part.

I converted them to into adjustables. This is done easily with by using the factory nut for the adjustment, then adding a grade 8 prevailing-torque lock-nut on the top. This allows you to set the pushrod into the lifter bore "just enough", (1/2 turn) instead of the factory "near-bottom" or "wherever" it lands situation. Luckily this cam uses the factory length pushrod so that makes things easy.

I'm also adding a performer RPM air gap intake and 670 street avenger carb.

Things are coming together well, should have her going in a few days.

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

She's alive again! and she sounds GOOOOOOOOD!

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

....aight, here's a video

Posted by maeco (Member # 2578) on :

i dont know where i been but just got done reading page 1 thru 4 all i got to say [Eek!]

Posted by Slowback (Member # 6348) on :

Was there any problems with your carb after the thumper cam? I've heard a few people say they had a little trouble tuning after installing one.

I want to pick up a retro fit thumper, but for cam and lifters it's over 700. ( I also need to buy better heads before I do another cam swap.)

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

no problems at all, vacuum is still great, power brakes still work great. Roller/retrofit should be even better but you never know. Personally I'd just stick to the standard setup if its an experiment. [Smile]

Posted by 65mustang408 (Member # 8681) on :

sounds badass!!! [worship]

Posted by Slowback (Member # 6348) on :

Maybe I'll order the smallest non roller cam and use my 1.7's and my crappy E7 heads till I can buy better ones.
Is that the the mutha thumper or the reg thumper you put in?

[ March 28, 2010, 04:19 PM: Message edited by: Slowback ]

Posted by maeco (Member # 2578) on :

I saw this at goodguys and thought of your car,I know its different but color reminded me of yours

[ March 29, 2010, 01:41 AM: Message edited by: maeco ]

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

Nice 70, too bad it says "Spectre" on the windshield. I have to say I would probably turn down an endorsement from them. Their parts are just poor.

It's the small Thumpr cam with .490 lift, 107 LSA and 290+ duration. I would think the small one with 1.7's would be a great street camshaft. Similar to the Comp Magnum 292H with a little better sound and probably better bottom-end torque. When I do put heads on my car (Probably Cast Iron World Products Windsor Sr's) I was thinking about putting a 1.7 rocker and leaving this cam. We'll see.

By the way I've lost ZERO noticeable bottom-end torque with this cam, however I must say I do have a 2400 stall converter. Might have lost a bit below that but probably not much.

Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on :

quote:
Originally posted by bwkelley76:
Thanks!

Goofin around with the pics. What do ya think?

This would make a great Mach 1 clone [patriot]

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

Thanks! Yep I can't wait to get the Mach stripes on this thing [Smile]

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

So I think I've decided to go with more of a 1970 Mach 1 approach. I like the hood stripes better on the '70 and the black below the doors is cool also. Most of all its a lot cheaper to do, just mask and paint those areas accordingly. I also like the blacked-out headlamp buckets.

I think I'm going to give it a shot! No Mach1 badges though, I think I'm just going to go with the paint scheme, not the label.

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

Workin on the cosmetics...

Hood stripes done, headlamp buckets done, next is back panel and front valance in black, chin spoiler and rear spoiler, then side stripes. [Smile]

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

More pics...

Installed front spoiler, painted rear panel and lower front valance, detailed underneath, painted rear diff.

Posted by Slowback (Member # 6348) on :

Looks good. [patriot]

Posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' (Member # 895) on :

Car looks good! There sure seems to be a lot of pine trees where you are. Doesn't seem like Sac. I think I might have seen you but not sure.

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

<<Yep lots of pine trees, I commute from El Dorado County to Sac every day for work and school.

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

SUCCESS!

Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on :

that thing looks dope as fuck [patriot]

Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :

Nice [patriot]

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

thanks! now I just need to get someone to buy my 49 truck so I can put some more money into this baby. ..check out my other posts if you know anyone interested!

Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :

[worship]

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

Rear Spoiler is on!

Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :

Coming along nice [patriot]

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

thanks! Gettin her ready for the Sac Mustang car show on Sat. Anyone here going?

Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :

quote:
Originally posted by bwkelley76:
thanks! Gettin her ready for the Sac Mustang car show on Sat. Anyone here going?

I'll be there

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

sweet! See you there!

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

Car show was cool!
Thanks goes to Gary from Norcal Motorsports for getting this great shot of the '69.

[ May 06, 2010, 02:30 AM: Message edited by: bwkelley76 ]

Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :

quote:
Originally posted by bwkelley76:
Car show was cool!
Thanks goes to Gary from Norcal Motorsports for getting this great shot of the '69.

That was your car epic and I looked at it and thought no that's not him

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

<<lol, is that good or bad?

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

So yeah, I guess I did such a good job on the '69 that someone bought it and made me a rich man! lol The damn thing wasn't even for sale!

I wasn't going to turn down the amount of money I was offered though.

I'm such a damn car whore I swear.

To make a long story short the '69 is on its way to Australia to its proud new owner in a week or 2, and I'm starting over again with a '67 fastback I just bought.

This time I'm doing a gt500 clone and I'm doing it right. NO ELEANOR STUFF.

Here's the new beast. Black plate equipped '67 C code deluxe fastback, manual brake and steering car with a '69 "true 4V" 351 Windsor, she runs good but of course needs a complete resto. I think this one is going to get paint and body FIRST, then I can get it road worthy and do all the mechanical and interior myself over time.

I'll be starting a new forum thread on this one.

Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :

We were right next to that car selling some parts when you bought that car hella of a deal should be a good project , i like this 67' better then the 69' more potential

Posted by Chavez66 (Member # 9812) on :

damn you bought that car haha i seen that and was like damn ill trade by Cobra for that thing right now [Eek!]

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

....ah you guys must be confusing me with Brian from Sac Mustang. I bought it from him at a slightly inflated rate the very next day...lol. I still got a good deal on it though. He is also the one that sold me the '69 and then hooked me up with the buyers for the '69.

Now that I think about it this is all his fault. He has had a hand in every sale and purchase I've made since my '65 coupe 2 years ago. What a great connection he has been. I also like the guy, he's a business man for sure but a joy to work with.

Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on :

This is one of the best threads in General Talk.. exactly what CAFords needs right now!

Keep posting pics of your progress on the new project! You are giving me the inpiration to do one of my own [patriot]

Posted by 94 N.C.F GT (Member # 8722) on :

Keep up the good work can't wait to see the next one [patriot]

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

Thanks guys! I started a new thread for the '67 fastback, check my other posts via my profile if you want to follow. I'm getting started on it in the next few weeks. [Smile]

Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :

So you are the guy who bought that car! Congrats, looks like a great starting point.

Posted by bwkelley76 (Member # 8792) on :

thanks! Yep it seems like it so far. I haven't started tearing into it just yet so I haven't figured out just how much she's going to need right of the bat. I got a set of Billet Specialties wheels for her and reverse eye springs for the rear, and a few other little items I'm scraping together.

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