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Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on :
 
I have heard many people who have had positive experiences with AED...I was wondering if there were any members who were not impressed or satisfied with the service they received for AED...
 

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Posted by SPTVENM (Member # 7080) on :
 
lmao i doubt that will ever happen. hands down to AED

Shaun and Drew are very good ppl and they were very patient with me and my car

i plan to go back to them maybe in Feb for a intake manifold install and retune

[ November 25, 2009, 04:04 PM: Message edited by: SPTVENM ]
 

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Posted by NavidR (Member # 3164) on :
 
I know this is going to turn out to be a AED worship post AGAIN! hahahaha

AED! Good job you guys, keep up the good work!
 

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Posted by 707vibrantcobra93 (Member # 4702) on :
 
If you come away from AED unhappy either your standards are unbelievebly high and you need to go drive top fuel or funny car, or you're a broke ass bastard and need to stop trying to live a champagne diet on a beer budget.
 

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Posted by SPTVENM (Member # 7080) on :
 

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Originally posted by 707vibrantcobra93:
If you come away from AED unhappy either your standards are unbelievebly high and you need to go drive top fuel or funny car, or you're a broke ass bastard and need to stop trying to live a champagne diet on a beer budget.

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lol im broke and i still find a way to get money to get my work done there and make the 2+ hr drive
 

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Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on :
 
You both must have been great customers who spent money with them...Do you think they would be cool guys if you did not spend money with them?...Do you think they would be rude and disrespectful if you weren't a customer...My point is, I have been shopping around for a tuner for the past couple of months after I was unsatisfied with my previous tuning experience...After trading numerous emails with AED about my tuning and engine problems I followed the detail instructions given to me to prepare my car to be retuned...I emailed the tuner to ask about injectors and he rudely replied to have me ask any more questions I had to my previous tuner...He had never before been rude or disrespectful so I inquired an found out that since I was not a customer and never bought products from AED that he did not have to earn or give me respect and that all help, respect, and knowledge is for potential and paying customers...With all the praise AED receives on CAfords I was not expecting this...I recently was praising them to some of my peers because I felt they went above and beyond for someone who was a potential customer and that I was planning on getting my card tuned by them...After this I will never be an AED customer...I should have listened to Albert and stayed away...It says alot about a business or person on how they treat people who don't spend money with them, because that is honest no money involved...
 

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Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :
 
I know this sounds dumb but where exactly are they located
 

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Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
this should get interesting...
 

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Posted by 70mach351 (Member # 7528) on :
 
I have never spent money with them, and drew and shaun have swapped sevral pm's with me never being rude, taking time to look up part numbers and let me know what i should run with my setup. maybe they just had a bad day. They seem like cool guys to me and have been nothing but helpful.
 

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Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on :
 

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Originally posted by 70mach351:
I have never spent money with them, and drew and shaun have swapped sevral pm's with me never being rude, taking time to look up part numbers and let me know what i should run with my setup. maybe they just had a bad day. They seem like cool guys to me and have been nothing but helpful.

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Originally posted by 70mach351:
I have never spent money with them, and drew and shaun have swapped sevral pm's with me never being rude, taking time to look up part numbers and let me know what i should run with my setup. maybe they just had a bad day. They seem like cool guys to me and have been nothing but helpful.

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+10000!!! good guys! and know there stuff. will help you out either way! im taking my car there in a couple weeks
 

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Posted by bottled95GT?? (Member # 1772) on :
 
Well In their defense I could understand giving out tons of help and advice to someone I'd hope to have become a customer of mine, only to have them take the advice I have to another tuner (that's what it sounds like, correct me if I'm wrong). I have swapped numerous emails with Shaun and I'm a fricken pest and indecisive. I've talked with him over many combo options over a 2 year period with my money being the only reason I haven't taken my car there. Even knowing my financial woes he's always been helpful and polite. Never rude even to a pest like me. -Joe
 

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Posted by jaejae (Member # 7958) on :
 
this should be entertaining
 

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Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on :
 
I've spoken to both Shaun and Drew at AED for extended amounts of time - over the phone, PMs, and emails. I've never been treated rudely, and I've never even spent a single dime with them. I plan on bringing my car there when my broke ass can afford it.

Seeing as how you feel like you were treated rudely through email, is there a chance that one of you took it the wrong way? Reading text instead of hearing words can come off differently. I find it hard to believe too since they've both received such good feedback from people on and off this forum. Either way, good luck, and I hope the issue gets worked out.
 

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Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on :
 

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Originally posted by bottled95GT??:
Well In their defense I could understand giving out tons of help and advice to someone I'd hope to have become a customer of mine, only to have them take the advice I have to another tuner (that's what it sounds like, correct me if I'm wrong). I have swapped numerous emails with Shaun and I'm a fricken pest and indecisive. I've talked with him over many combo options over a 2 year period with my money being the only reason I haven't taken my car there. Even knowing my financial woes he's always been helpful and polite. Never rude even to a pest like me. -Joe

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I did not contact him until after i had my car tuned somewhere else...I had previously briefly inquired about a tune but never got any help or advice...And up until recently he was very helpful and polite...I have no problem with AED not helping me, but dont be rude and disrespectful...I wasn't never disrespectful or rude when asking my questions and always thanked him for his time...I just know I am not the only one who feels that only treating paying or potential customers with respect is not appropriate...I might be the only person on this website not pro AED...
 

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Posted by jaejae (Member # 7958) on :
 
yea rmadison007 just cause your car is slow and isnt worth anything!
 

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Posted by fasthatch (Member # 7277) on :
 

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by bottled95GT??:
Well In their defense I could understand giving out tons of help and advice to someone I'd hope to have become a customer of mine, only to have them take the advice I have to another tuner (that's what it sounds like, correct me if I'm wrong). I have swapped numerous emails with Shaun and I'm a fricken pest and indecisive. I've talked with him over many combo options over a 2 year period with my money being the only reason I haven't taken my car there. Even knowing my financial woes he's always been helpful and polite. Never rude even to a pest like me. -Joe

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I did not contact him until after i had my car tuned somewhere else...I had previously briefly inquired about a tune but never got any help or advice...And up until recently he was very helpful and polite...I have no problem with AED not helping me, but dont be rude and disrespectful...I wasn't never disrespectful or rude when asking my questions and always thanked him for his time...I just know I am not the only one who feels that only treating paying or potential customers with respect is not appropriate...I might be the only person on this website not pro AED...

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Originally posted by DLo:
I've spoken to both Shaun and Drew at AED for extended amounts of time - over the phone, PMs, and emails. I've never been treated rudely, and I've never even spent a single dime with them. I plan on bringing my car there when my broke ass can afford it.

Seeing as how you feel like you were treated rudely through email, is there a chance that one of you took it the wrong way? Reading text instead of hearing words can come off differently. I find it hard to believe too since they've both received such good feedback from people on and off this forum. Either way, good luck, and I hope the issue gets worked out.

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Originally posted by fasthatch:

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by bottled95GT??:
Well In their defense I could understand giving out tons of help and advice to someone I'd hope to have become a customer of mine, only to have them take the advice I have to another tuner (that's what it sounds like, correct me if I'm wrong). I have swapped numerous emails with Shaun and I'm a fricken pest and indecisive. I've talked with him over many combo options over a 2 year period with my money being the only reason I haven't taken my car there. Even knowing my financial woes he's always been helpful and polite. Never rude even to a pest like me. -Joe

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I did not contact him until after i had my car tuned somewhere else...I had previously briefly inquired about a tune but never got any help or advice...And up until recently he was very helpful and polite...I have no problem with AED not helping me, but dont be rude and disrespectful...I wasn't never disrespectful or rude when asking my questions and always thanked him for his time...I just know I am not the only one who feels that only treating paying or potential customers with respect is not appropriate...I might be the only person on this website not pro AED...

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were your prove that they were rude to you an quite hiding behind your screen name an say who you are b/c everybody here know who aed is

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Originally posted by fasthatch:

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by bottled95GT??:
Well In their defense I could understand giving out tons of help and advice to someone I'd hope to have become a customer of mine, only to have them take the advice I have to another tuner (that's what it sounds like, correct me if I'm wrong). I have swapped numerous emails with Shaun and I'm a fricken pest and indecisive. I've talked with him over many combo options over a 2 year period with my money being the only reason I haven't taken my car there. Even knowing my financial woes he's always been helpful and polite. Never rude even to a pest like me. -Joe

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I did not contact him until after i had my car tuned somewhere else...I had previously briefly inquired about a tune but never got any help or advice...And up until recently he was very helpful and polite...I have no problem with AED not helping me, but dont be rude and disrespectful...I wasn't never disrespectful or rude when asking my questions and always thanked him for his time...I just know I am not the only one who feels that only treating paying or potential customers with respect is not appropriate...I might be the only person on this website not pro AED...

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were your prove that they were rude to you an quite hiding behind your screen name an say who you are b/c everybody here know who aed is

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Originally posted by BULLITTMAN:
Sounds to me like a total misunderstanding...Shaun and Drew are more than helpful to non-customers. I asked tons of questions before I became a customer and Shaun answered every one in full detail. I e-mailed and spoke to him on the phone, and as busy as he was, always took the time to explain things to me...Why don't you post this so-called rude e-mail?

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Originally posted by 70mach351:
I have never spent money with them, and drew and shaun have swapped sevral pm's with me never being rude, taking time to look up part numbers and let me know what i should run with my setup. maybe they just had a bad day. They seem like cool guys to me and have been nothing but helpful.

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by DLo:
I've spoken to both Shaun and Drew at AED for extended amounts of time - over the phone, PMs, and emails. I've never been treated rudely, and I've never even spent a single dime with them. I plan on bringing my car there when my broke ass can afford it.

Seeing as how you feel like you were treated rudely through email, is there a chance that one of you took it the wrong way? Reading text instead of hearing words can come off differently. I find it hard to believe too since they've both received such good feedback from people on and off this forum. Either way, good luck, and I hope the issue gets worked out.

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My original question
"Can I start my car using 60lb injectors and calibrated Mass air? Or do I need it tuned to take out fuel at start up? I have it tuned to 42lb injectors and calibrated mass air right now…."

His Responses
"Why don't you ask your tuner."

"Let me know when you are ready to be a paying AED customer. My time and knowledge is valuable"

"Definition of a customer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customer


You were a Potential Customer for a tune. Therefore I gave you all the information you asked for. It was my understanding you were getting the car ready to bring it to me to tune. Once you went with another tuner, you were no longer a Potential Customer for a Tune.....nor were you an actual AED Customer since we've never done work for you, nor sold you any products.


Had you been an AED Customer, I would have done my best to earn your Respect, and perhaps you would have earned mine.


Respect is earned, not given."


You be the judge...

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by BULLITTMAN:
Sounds to me like a total misunderstanding...Shaun and Drew are more than helpful to non-customers. I asked tons of questions before I became a customer and Shaun answered every one in full detail. I e-mailed and spoke to him on the phone, and as busy as he was, always took the time to explain things to me...Why don't you post this so-called rude e-mail?

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i did look above

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Originally posted by BULLITTMAN:

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by DLo:
I've spoken to both Shaun and Drew at AED for extended amounts of time - over the phone, PMs, and emails. I've never been treated rudely, and I've never even spent a single dime with them. I plan on bringing my car there when my broke ass can afford it.

Seeing as how you feel like you were treated rudely through email, is there a chance that one of you took it the wrong way? Reading text instead of hearing words can come off differently. I find it hard to believe too since they've both received such good feedback from people on and off this forum. Either way, good luck, and I hope the issue gets worked out.

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My original question
"Can I start my car using 60lb injectors and calibrated Mass air? Or do I need it tuned to take out fuel at start up? I have it tuned to 42lb injectors and calibrated mass air right now…."

His Responses
"Why don't you ask your tuner."

"Let me know when you are ready to be a paying AED customer. My time and knowledge is valuable"

"Definition of a customer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customer


You were a Potential Customer for a tune. Therefore I gave you all the information you asked for. It was my understanding you were getting the car ready to bring it to me to tune. Once you went with another tuner, you were no longer a Potential Customer for a Tune.....nor were you an actual AED Customer since we've never done work for you, nor sold you any products.


Had you been an AED Customer, I would have done my best to earn your Respect, and perhaps you would have earned mine.


Respect is earned, not given."


You be the judge...

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Like I said it seems to be a misunderstanding, It looks like he thought you asked all these questions and went to another tuner instead of coming to him. I bet if you call him and stop trying to cause shit on this forum everything would be straightened out. Give whoever you e-mailed a call, they are both stand up guys.

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Your a AED customer I expect you to believe it is a misunderstanding...AED and I have communicated via email about this situation and they don't want me as a customer...They were rude and disrespectful in my book and regardless if someone is a customer or not u should still respect them period...Lack of respect leaves people shot or toothless where I am from...I understand where they are coming from, but with all the dick riding happening on this website for their services i expected a little more...I am not going to put people on blast, but I am not the only one not swinging for AED nuts on this website, just the only one speaking up...I am unsatisfied "potential" customer using a pro AED website to voice my dissatisfaction...If it was really a misundestanding who job is it to clear it up the customer or the business...
 

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Posted by SPTVENM (Member # 7080) on :
 
seems i am right
 

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Posted by Rigo5.0 (Member # 5247) on :
 
I've never done business with AED nor do I know you but judging by the information that has been provided...
I would say from a business stand point I can aggree with AED if you've been asking them Q's to then turn around and do business with someone else. So I guess the question is if you went with another tuner AFTER seeking AED's advice?
If so, then I can understand their response.
If not, then I agree with you.
 

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Posted by BULLITTMAN (Member # 8468) on :
 

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by BULLITTMAN:

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by DLo:
I've spoken to both Shaun and Drew at AED for extended amounts of time - over the phone, PMs, and emails. I've never been treated rudely, and I've never even spent a single dime with them. I plan on bringing my car there when my broke ass can afford it.

Seeing as how you feel like you were treated rudely through email, is there a chance that one of you took it the wrong way? Reading text instead of hearing words can come off differently. I find it hard to believe too since they've both received such good feedback from people on and off this forum. Either way, good luck, and I hope the issue gets worked out.

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My original question
"Can I start my car using 60lb injectors and calibrated Mass air? Or do I need it tuned to take out fuel at start up? I have it tuned to 42lb injectors and calibrated mass air right now…."

His Responses
"Why don't you ask your tuner."

"Let me know when you are ready to be a paying AED customer. My time and knowledge is valuable"

"Definition of a customer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customer


You were a Potential Customer for a tune. Therefore I gave you all the information you asked for. It was my understanding you were getting the car ready to bring it to me to tune. Once you went with another tuner, you were no longer a Potential Customer for a Tune.....nor were you an actual AED Customer since we've never done work for you, nor sold you any products.


Had you been an AED Customer, I would have done my best to earn your Respect, and perhaps you would have earned mine.


Respect is earned, not given."


You be the judge...

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Like I said it seems to be a misunderstanding, It looks like he thought you asked all these questions and went to another tuner instead of coming to him. I bet if you call him and stop trying to cause shit on this forum everything would be straightened out. Give whoever you e-mailed a call, they are both stand up guys.

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Your a AED customer I expect you to believe it is a misunderstanding...AED and I have communicated via email about this situation and they don't want me as a customer...They were rude and disrespectful in my book and regardless if someone is a customer or not u should still respect them period...Lack of respect leaves people shot or toothless where I am from...I understand where they are coming from, but with all the dick riding happening on this website for their services i expected a little more...I am not going to put people on blast, but I am not the only one not swinging for AED nuts on this website, just the only one speaking up...I am unsatisfied "potential" customer using a pro AED website to voice my dissatisfaction...If it was really a misundestanding who job is it to clear it up the customer or the business...

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Originally posted by 93PONY:
Late August your heads were at the machine shop, motor was not running. I helped you get the right valve train setup for the combo.

Early/mid Sept you had questions on intercooler setups...I pointed you in the right direction.

Mid Oct you had questions about drivability, both P/T and WOT. At that time you told me you had it tuned at another shop. Your reasoning for not bringing it to AED:
"Distance…I didn’t trust driving the car 2hours…scared the car would have small problems once on the dyno…Having to trailer the car would cost me around $300 extra…I had a list of reasons that eventually turned to excuses…I probably should have just brought it the first time"

I can 'respect' your decisions, but that does not mean I must answer all of your questions, or risk being flamed on CaFords. As indicated by this email response:

"I will be sure to voice my opinion next time someone raves about AED on Cafords and express how u treat non paying customers…regardless if a person is paying customer or not you should still respect them…

Yours Truly,

An unsatisfied non paying customer"

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Originally posted by BULLITTMAN:

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by BULLITTMAN:

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by DLo:
I've spoken to both Shaun and Drew at AED for extended amounts of time - over the phone, PMs, and emails. I've never been treated rudely, and I've never even spent a single dime with them. I plan on bringing my car there when my broke ass can afford it.

Seeing as how you feel like you were treated rudely through email, is there a chance that one of you took it the wrong way? Reading text instead of hearing words can come off differently. I find it hard to believe too since they've both received such good feedback from people on and off this forum. Either way, good luck, and I hope the issue gets worked out.

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My original question
"Can I start my car using 60lb injectors and calibrated Mass air? Or do I need it tuned to take out fuel at start up? I have it tuned to 42lb injectors and calibrated mass air right now…."

His Responses
"Why don't you ask your tuner."

"Let me know when you are ready to be a paying AED customer. My time and knowledge is valuable"

"Definition of a customer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customer


You were a Potential Customer for a tune. Therefore I gave you all the information you asked for. It was my understanding you were getting the car ready to bring it to me to tune. Once you went with another tuner, you were no longer a Potential Customer for a Tune.....nor were you an actual AED Customer since we've never done work for you, nor sold you any products.


Had you been an AED Customer, I would have done my best to earn your Respect, and perhaps you would have earned mine.


Respect is earned, not given."


You be the judge...

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Like I said it seems to be a misunderstanding, It looks like he thought you asked all these questions and went to another tuner instead of coming to him. I bet if you call him and stop trying to cause shit on this forum everything would be straightened out. Give whoever you e-mailed a call, they are both stand up guys.

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Your a AED customer I expect you to believe it is a misunderstanding...AED and I have communicated via email about this situation and they don't want me as a customer...They were rude and disrespectful in my book and regardless if someone is a customer or not u should still respect them period...Lack of respect leaves people shot or toothless where I am from...I understand where they are coming from, but with all the dick riding happening on this website for their services i expected a little more...I am not going to put people on blast, but I am not the only one not swinging for AED nuts on this website, just the only one speaking up...I am unsatisfied "potential" customer using a pro AED website to voice my dissatisfaction...If it was really a misundestanding who job is it to clear it up the customer or the business...

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It has been cleared read above...and it seems you were being a cheap bastard and now you're bitching because he stopped helping you...

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by BULLITTMAN:

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by DLo:
I've spoken to both Shaun and Drew at AED for extended amounts of time - over the phone, PMs, and emails. I've never been treated rudely, and I've never even spent a single dime with them. I plan on bringing my car there when my broke ass can afford it.

If you really knew me the last thing I am is cheap...Like I told Mr. Fasthatch, if you want to get to know me come by Jae Jae's house anytime and ask for me...then you can retract that comment...lol Jae Jae he called me cheap!

Seeing as how you feel like you were treated rudely through email, is there a chance that one of you took it the wrong way? Reading text instead of hearing words can come off differently. I find it hard to believe too since they've both received such good feedback from people on and off this forum. Either way, good luck, and I hope the issue gets worked out.

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My original question
"Can I start my car using 60lb injectors and calibrated Mass air? Or do I need it tuned to take out fuel at start up? I have it tuned to 42lb injectors and calibrated mass air right now…."

His Responses
"Why don't you ask your tuner."

"Let me know when you are ready to be a paying AED customer. My time and knowledge is valuable"

"Definition of a customer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customer


You were a Potential Customer for a tune. Therefore I gave you all the information you asked for. It was my understanding you were getting the car ready to bring it to me to tune. Once you went with another tuner, you were no longer a Potential Customer for a Tune.....nor were you an actual AED Customer since we've never done work for you, nor sold you any products.


Had you been an AED Customer, I would have done my best to earn your Respect, and perhaps you would have earned mine.


Respect is earned, not given."


You be the judge...

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Like I said it seems to be a misunderstanding, It looks like he thought you asked all these questions and went to another tuner instead of coming to him. I bet if you call him and stop trying to cause shit on this forum everything would be straightened out. Give whoever you e-mailed a call, they are both stand up guys.

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Your a AED customer I expect you to believe it is a misunderstanding...AED and I have communicated via email about this situation and they don't want me as a customer...They were rude and disrespectful in my book and regardless if someone is a customer or not u should still respect them period...Lack of respect leaves people shot or toothless where I am from...I understand where they are coming from, but with all the dick riding happening on this website for their services i expected a little more...I am not going to put people on blast, but I am not the only one not swinging for AED nuts on this website, just the only one speaking up...I am unsatisfied "potential" customer using a pro AED website to voice my dissatisfaction...If it was really a misundestanding who job is it to clear it up the customer or the business...

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It has been cleared read above...and it seems you were being a cheap bastard and now you're bitching because he stopped helping you...

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by 93PONY:
Late August your heads were at the machine shop, motor was not running. I helped you get the right valve train setup for the combo.

Early/mid Sept you had questions on intercooler setups...I pointed you in the right direction.

Mid Oct you had questions about drivability, both P/T and WOT. At that time you told me you had it tuned at another shop. Your reasoning for not bringing it to AED:
"Distance…I didn’t trust driving the car 2hours…scared the car would have small problems once on the dyno…Having to trailer the car would cost me around $300 extra…I had a list of reasons that eventually turned to excuses…I probably should have just brought it the first time"

I can 'respect' your decisions, but that does not mean I must answer all of your questions, or risk being flamed on CaFords. As indicated by this email response:

"I will be sure to voice my opinion next time someone raves about AED on Cafords and express how u treat non paying customers…regardless if a person is paying customer or not you should still respect them…

Yours Truly,

An unsatisfied non paying customer"

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Your right you dont have to answer all of my questions...I "respect" that, but "respect" me enough reply to my emails without being rude...Your statements about customer vs non customer says a lot...and like i said before although i am in the minority i am not the only person on this website that felt you were rude and disrespectful when they inquired with you about help or being a potential customer...And as stated before in every email thanks for all the help up until this point...You weren't being used before, but i will be taking my business elsewhere...Thanks Again

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lol seems like u already took ur business elsewhere and thats why ur in this predicament now
 

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Posted by g-ride14 (Member # 9143) on :
 
im not really an aed customer. (well i got dyno'd there one time and shaun didnt even charge me full price.) but they have always been nice to me and i know ive asked shaun a million questions about a build but never got it done due to funds but he never once was rude and even told me to take some time to really think about if i wanted the work done before i brought it in. this isnt the only site where everyone talks good about them. pretty much all the mustang sites have good things to say to them. im not riding no ones nuts but im just saying my unbias experence about them. what shop did you end up taking your car to?
 

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Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on :
 
99% of people on this site that is run by AED have positive things to say, but this topic was originally for people who did not have positive things to say, the 1%...then all the dick riders decided to make a love letter to AED...regardless, so based on the responses from Shaun it was ok to be rude and disrespectful to a potential customer because he felt like he was being used...Honest, yes, proper business practice, no...I would have respected him more if he would have just said up front "I am sorry i can not help you with anything if you are going to take the information i give you and have another tuner tune you car"...
 

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Posted by SAMACH1 (Member # 7042) on :
 
I talked to Shaun before about getting some work done in the future and he was not rude at all with me, and ive never had work done by him yet...He pointed me in the right direction and gave me some good advice on a future setup....
 

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Posted by SPTVENM (Member # 7080) on :
 

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99% of people on this site that is run by AED have positive things to say, but this topic was originally for people who did not have positive things to say, the 1%...then all the dick riders decided to make a love letter to AED...regardless, so based on the responses from Shaun it was ok to be rude and disrespectful to a potential customer because he felt like he was being used...Honest, yes, proper business practice, no...I would have respected him more if he would have just said up front "I am sorry i can not help you with anything if you are going to take the information i give you and have another tuner tune you car"...

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Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :
 
Shaun threatened to beat me up if he ever saw me at sac raceway ever since then I have been scared to show my face there for fear the guys at AED would beat me up
 

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Posted by SPTVENM (Member # 7080) on :
 

 

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Posted by fasthatch (Member # 7277) on :
 

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Originally posted by BULLITTMAN:

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by DLo:
I've spoken to both Shaun and Drew at AED for extended amounts of time - over the phone, PMs, and emails. I've never been treated rudely, and I've never even spent a single dime with them. I plan on bringing my car there when my broke ass can afford it.

If you really knew me the last thing I am is cheap...Like I told Mr. Fasthatch, if you want to get to know me come by Jae Jae's house anytime and ask for me...then you can retract that comment...lol Jae Jae he called me cheap!

Seeing as how you feel like you were treated rudely through email, is there a chance that one of you took it the wrong way? Reading text instead of hearing words can come off differently. I find it hard to believe too since they've both received such good feedback from people on and off this forum. Either way, good luck, and I hope the issue gets worked out.

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My original question
"Can I start my car using 60lb injectors and calibrated Mass air? Or do I need it tuned to take out fuel at start up? I have it tuned to 42lb injectors and calibrated mass air right now…."

His Responses
"Why don't you ask your tuner."

"Let me know when you are ready to be a paying AED customer. My time and knowledge is valuable"

"Definition of a customer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customer


You were a Potential Customer for a tune. Therefore I gave you all the information you asked for. It was my understanding you were getting the car ready to bring it to me to tune. Once you went with another tuner, you were no longer a Potential Customer for a Tune.....nor were you an actual AED Customer since we've never done work for you, nor sold you any products.


Had you been an AED Customer, I would have done my best to earn your Respect, and perhaps you would have earned mine.


Respect is earned, not given."


You be the judge...

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Like I said it seems to be a misunderstanding, It looks like he thought you asked all these questions and went to another tuner instead of coming to him. I bet if you call him and stop trying to cause shit on this forum everything would be straightened out. Give whoever you e-mailed a call, they are both stand up guys.

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Your a AED customer I expect you to believe it is a misunderstanding...AED and I have communicated via email about this situation and they don't want me as a customer...They were rude and disrespectful in my book and regardless if someone is a customer or not u should still respect them period...Lack of respect leaves people shot or toothless where I am from...I understand where they are coming from, but with all the dick riding happening on this website for their services i expected a little more...I am not going to put people on blast, but I am not the only one not swinging for AED nuts on this website, just the only one speaking up...I am unsatisfied "potential" customer using a pro AED website to voice my dissatisfaction...If it was really a misundestanding who job is it to clear it up the customer or the business...

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It has been cleared read above...and it seems you were being a cheap bastard and now you're bitching because he stopped helping you...

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The Last thing i am is cheap...but like i told Fasthatch, come by Jae Jae house and ask for me and then make a comment like that...The only difference between me and you is that I have not spent money with AED...Jae Jae he called me cheap

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Originally posted by fasthatch:

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by BULLITTMAN:

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by BULLITTMAN:

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by DLo:
I've spoken to both Shaun and Drew at AED for extended amounts of time - over the phone, PMs, and emails. I've never been treated rudely, and I've never even spent a single dime with them. I plan on bringing my car there when my broke ass can afford it.

If you really knew me the last thing I am is cheap...Like I told Mr. Fasthatch, if you want to get to know me come by Jae Jae's house anytime and ask for me...then you can retract that comment...lol Jae Jae he called me cheap!

Seeing as how you feel like you were treated rudely through email, is there a chance that one of you took it the wrong way? Reading text instead of hearing words can come off differently. I find it hard to believe too since they've both received such good feedback from people on and off this forum. Either way, good luck, and I hope the issue gets worked out.

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My original question
"Can I start my car using 60lb injectors and calibrated Mass air? Or do I need it tuned to take out fuel at start up? I have it tuned to 42lb injectors and calibrated mass air right now…."

His Responses
"Why don't you ask your tuner."

"Let me know when you are ready to be a paying AED customer. My time and knowledge is valuable"

"Definition of a customer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customer


You were a Potential Customer for a tune. Therefore I gave you all the information you asked for. It was my understanding you were getting the car ready to bring it to me to tune. Once you went with another tuner, you were no longer a Potential Customer for a Tune.....nor were you an actual AED Customer since we've never done work for you, nor sold you any products.


Had you been an AED Customer, I would have done my best to earn your Respect, and perhaps you would have earned mine.


Respect is earned, not given."


You be the judge...

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Like I said it seems to be a misunderstanding, It looks like he thought you asked all these questions and went to another tuner instead of coming to him. I bet if you call him and stop trying to cause shit on this forum everything would be straightened out. Give whoever you e-mailed a call, they are both stand up guys.

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Your a AED customer I expect you to believe it is a misunderstanding...AED and I have communicated via email about this situation and they don't want me as a customer...They were rude and disrespectful in my book and regardless if someone is a customer or not u should still respect them period...Lack of respect leaves people shot or toothless where I am from...I understand where they are coming from, but with all the dick riding happening on this website for their services i expected a little more...I am not going to put people on blast, but I am not the only one not swinging for AED nuts on this website, just the only one speaking up...I am unsatisfied "potential" customer using a pro AED website to voice my dissatisfaction...If it was really a misundestanding who job is it to clear it up the customer or the business...

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It has been cleared read above...and it seems you were being a cheap bastard and now you're bitching because he stopped helping you...

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The Last thing i am is cheap...but like i told Fasthatch, come by Jae Jae house and ask for me and then make a comment like that...The only difference between me and you is that I have not spent money with AED...Jae Jae he called me cheap

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frist douche why would i go to jae jae home an ask for you are trying to threat me if you are good luck on that.it really sounds like your pissed b/c aed fried you as a potential customer
so why dont you spend money tuning your car at the track i heard don baileys looking for work

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First...watch your mouth...I never disrespected u internet tough guy...Second Jae Jae is always home that is why and I am not...Third I would love to meet u whatis ur number maybe we can meet up
 

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Posted by SSSSIKH (Member # 8397) on :
 
haha, this thread is hilarious!

stop your bitching here...no one wants to here it...we know what to expect from AED and thats why we continue to go back time after time...

we were all at one point just a "potential" customer...i was also a non-paying customer at one point before modding my car, and would blow up shauns phone with question after question; and i felt he took time out of his day to give me the right answers and to make sure i would be happy with the end result...if it wasnt for AED, my car would probably would have still been stock!...it was his answers to my questions made me feel comfortable modding my car in teh first place and letting shaun tune it...

for all i care or anyone else thats been to AED...we dont give 2 shits about where you get your car tuned or how u were treated by AED...you desereved it...

LONG LIVE AED!!

ONCE A CUSTOMER = CUSTOMER FOR LIFE!
 

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Posted by fasthatch (Member # 7277) on :
 

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by BULLITTMAN:

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by DLo:
I've spoken to both Shaun and Drew at AED for extended amounts of time - over the phone, PMs, and emails. I've never been treated rudely, and I've never even spent a single dime with them. I plan on bringing my car there when my broke ass can afford it.

If you really knew me the last thing I am is cheap...Like I told Mr. Fasthatch, if you want to get to know me come by Jae Jae's house anytime and ask for me...then you can retract that comment...lol Jae Jae he called me cheap!

Seeing as how you feel like you were treated rudely through email, is there a chance that one of you took it the wrong way? Reading text instead of hearing words can come off differently. I find it hard to believe too since they've both received such good feedback from people on and off this forum. Either way, good luck, and I hope the issue gets worked out.

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My original question
"Can I start my car using 60lb injectors and calibrated Mass air? Or do I need it tuned to take out fuel at start up? I have it tuned to 42lb injectors and calibrated mass air right now…."

His Responses
"Why don't you ask your tuner."

"Let me know when you are ready to be a paying AED customer. My time and knowledge is valuable"

"Definition of a customer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customer


You were a Potential Customer for a tune. Therefore I gave you all the information you asked for. It was my understanding you were getting the car ready to bring it to me to tune. Once you went with another tuner, you were no longer a Potential Customer for a Tune.....nor were you an actual AED Customer since we've never done work for you, nor sold you any products.


Had you been an AED Customer, I would have done my best to earn your Respect, and perhaps you would have earned mine.


Respect is earned, not given."


You be the judge...

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Like I said it seems to be a misunderstanding, It looks like he thought you asked all these questions and went to another tuner instead of coming to him. I bet if you call him and stop trying to cause shit on this forum everything would be straightened out. Give whoever you e-mailed a call, they are both stand up guys.

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Your a AED customer I expect you to believe it is a misunderstanding...AED and I have communicated via email about this situation and they don't want me as a customer...They were rude and disrespectful in my book and regardless if someone is a customer or not u should still respect them period...Lack of respect leaves people shot or toothless where I am from...I understand where they are coming from, but with all the dick riding happening on this website for their services i expected a little more...I am not going to put people on blast, but I am not the only one not swinging for AED nuts on this website, just the only one speaking up...I am unsatisfied "potential" customer using a pro AED website to voice my dissatisfaction...If it was really a misundestanding who job is it to clear it up the customer or the business...

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It has been cleared read above...and it seems you were being a cheap bastard and now you're bitching because he stopped helping you...

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The Last thing i am is cheap...but like i told Fasthatch, come by Jae Jae house and ask for me and then make a comment like that...The only difference between me and you is that I have not spent money with AED...Jae Jae he called me cheap

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frist douche why would i go to jae jae home an ask for you are trying to threat me if you are good luck on that.it really sounds like your pissed b/c aed fried you as a potential customer
so why dont you spend money tuning your car at the track i heard don baileys looking for work

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First...watch your mouth...I never disrespected u internet tough guy...Second Jae Jae is always home that is why and I am not...Third I would love to meet u whatis ur number maybe we can meet up

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should i come with my rachet.i i dont go to the hood anymore been growing up for way to long for some what be billy soft ass to think he came pump fear
 

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Posted by 90gtvert (Member # 8697) on :
 
Ive never spent a dime with AED, but Drew answered all my questions as well. So I dunno?!?!?! I will however be taking my car to them when I get it back, as he was nice enough to answer my questions even when I wasnt going to take it to him.

But because I feel he treated me with respect (I also showed him respect by not trying to take up too much of his tim) and he knows his stuff, my money will be going his way once I get my car back in my hands.

Mike
 

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Posted by phildog (Member # 1214) on :
 
If you picked my brain for months, then took your money to one of my competitors, then complained to me that my competitor phucked up, I'd hang up the phone and laugh.

At some point you have to patronize the individuals who have helped you along.

The guys at AED, or any business, put roofs over their heads and pay the bills with PAYING customers.

I have never worked with AED, but that is beside the point. At the end of the day, it's business.
 

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Posted by 68gtscode (Member # 8679) on :
 
rmadison007, I have found there is normally more than one side to every story, as is the case here. You posted Shaun's response out of context, with no supporting information on the events leading up to it. Your choice to come onto CA Fords and flame AED is another example of poor decision making.

I am a paying AED customer, but I wasn't always. Before I paid Drew and Shaun a cent, they both spent significant time developing a plan for my 03 Cobra to ensure the end result would meet my expectations. I would define them as "automotive consultants" just as much as I would mechanics and tuners. Drew and Shawn's work was flawless- my Cobra turned out better than expected. It makes over 700 hp and drivability is better than stock, the latter being very important to me. I have since had them sort out and tune another 2V Mustang I recently sold, and now they are starting to work on my third project car.

AED provides the highest quality service I have ever experienced, and I have used many shops throughout the country over the years, some of which are well-known places. I am employed at the director-level at a Fortune 500 company, and feel AED provides the quality of work and customer service I aspire to provide my customers. That brings me to my next point...

Is there such a thing as a non-paying customer? I would describe someone who has yet to pay as a "potential customer." Let's cut to the chase- everyone works for money, even Drew and Shaun. I'm sure they both sacrifice much of their personal life to run a successful business, but their time is finite. You cannot expect them to indefinitely give you their time if you never pay. You tried the patience of a very patient man, and your feelings got hurt.

I'm sorry you will never be a paying AED customer- it's truly your (and your car's) loss.

-Matt

[ November 25, 2009, 07:10 PM: Message edited by: 68gtscode ]
 

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Posted by Saleen9675 (Member # 9207) on :
 
well said 68GTScode
 

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Posted by SPTVENM (Member # 7080) on :
 
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Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on :
 
Let me clarify something...Shaun gave me no advice or information expect prices before I had my car tuned elsewhere...once I found that I was unsatified with my tune I asked several people on who I should have retune my car...that is when I decided to email shaun and begun asking the same questions he posted...it wasn't until he became rude and disrespectful did I feel the way I feel now...respect is not a customer non customer thing it is a everyone thing...if he felt used say that don't get an attitude and be disrespectful...in every email I have sent it has been question respectfully asked about parts or tuning...he decided that he did not want me to be a customer and treated me poorly...I am pretty sure most of u were lucky enough to have positive experiences with AED I just was not one of them...for the record my pm box is full of people who have equal experiences as mine but choose not chime in...
 

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Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 

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Originally posted by rmadison007:
Let me clarify something...Shaun gave me no advice or information expect prices before I had my car tuned elsewhere...once I found that I was unsatified with my tune I asked several people on who I should have retune my car...that is when I decided to email shaun and begun asking the same questions he posted...it wasn't until he became rude and disrespectful did I feel the way I feel now...respect is not a customer non customer thing it is a everyone thing...if he felt used say that don't get an attitude and be disrespectful...in every email I have sent it has been question respectfully asked about parts or tuning...he decided that he did not want me to be a customer and treated me poorly...I am pretty sure most of u were lucky enough to have positive experiences with AED I just was not one of them...for the record my pm box is full of people who have equal experiences as mine but choose not chime in...

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Originally posted by rmadison007:
Let me clarify something...Shaun gave me no advice or information expect prices before I had my car tuned elsewhere...

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respect is not a customer non customer thing it is a everyone thing...if he felt used say that don't get an attitude and be disrespectful...

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for the record my pm box is full of people who have equal experiences as mine but choose not chime in...

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...for the record my pm box is full of people who have equal experiences as mine but choose not chime in... [/QB]

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Originally posted by rmadison007:
Let me clarify something...Shaun gave me no advice or information expect prices before I had my car tuned elsewhere...once I found that I was unsatified with my tune I asked several people on who I should have retune my car...that is when I decided to email shaun and begun asking the same questions he posted...it wasn't until he became rude and disrespectful did I feel the way I feel now...respect is not a customer non customer thing it is a everyone thing...if he felt used say that don't get an attitude and be disrespectful...in every email I have sent it has been question respectfully asked about parts or tuning...he decided that he did not want me to be a customer and treated me poorly...I am pretty sure most of u were lucky enough to have positive experiences with AED I just was not one of them...for the record my pm box is full of people who have equal experiences as mine but choose not chime in...

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Originally posted by 93PONY:
First email about valve springs on 8/20:

200lbs seat pressure is not the normal stock AFR specs.
It's also not a valvespring part #.
200lbs seat pressure is typically for solid cam setups.

On Aug 24, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Madison, Reginald (DHCS-A&I-FAB) wrote:

Part number for the valve springs for afr 185s valve springs with 200lbs seat pressure…also what about the Anderson Motorsports Hi rev springs and retainers?

From: shaun93pony@comcast.net [mailto:shaun93pony@comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 11:55 PM
To: Madison, Reginald (DHCS-A&I-FAB)
Subject: Re: per valve springs, per tune for 331with V2sq, 9.4to1 comp.

What are the part #s? Email has no info.

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From: "Reginald Madison (DHCS-A&I-FAB)" <Reginald.Madison@dhcs.ca.gov>
To: shaun93pony@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:19:44 PM GMT -08:00 US/CanadaPacific
Subject: per valve springs, per tune for 331with V2sq, 9.4to1 comp.
Valve springs part numbers

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Originally posted by 23109:
the thread is for people that had bad shit with AED. Someone says they had a bad time and BOOM people wanna kill them.

side note: sptvnm if AED gave you a doller for everytime you sucked their dick or kissed their ass you would be able to afford to fix your car up.

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LOL! thats pretty funny
 

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Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
Let the masses can make up their own minds.

& for the record....Yes, I am an Asshole.


[ November 25, 2009, 08:00 PM: Message edited by: 93PONY ]
 

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Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on :
 

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Originally posted by 93PONY:

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Originally posted by rmadison007:
Let me clarify something...Shaun gave me no advice or information expect prices before I had my car tuned elsewhere...once I found that I was unsatified with my tune I asked several people on who I should have retune my car...that is when I decided to email shaun and begun asking the same questions he posted...it wasn't until he became rude and disrespectful did I feel the way I feel now...respect is not a customer non customer thing it is a everyone thing...if he felt used say that don't get an attitude and be disrespectful...in every email I have sent it has been question respectfully asked about parts or tuning...he decided that he did not want me to be a customer and treated me poorly...I am pretty sure most of u were lucky enough to have positive experiences with AED I just was not one of them...for the record my pm box is full of people who have equal experiences as mine but choose not chime in...

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I have all our emails saved.
When your motor was at the machine shop I gave you the part #'s of the valves prings needed for the Ed Curtis Camshaft.

I'm assuming it was not tuned at that time. I could be wrong?

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by 93PONY:

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Originally posted by rmadison007:
Let me clarify something...Shaun gave me no advice or information expect prices before I had my car tuned elsewhere...once I found that I was unsatified with my tune I asked several people on who I should have retune my car...that is when I decided to email shaun and begun asking the same questions he posted...it wasn't until he became rude and disrespectful did I feel the way I feel now...respect is not a customer non customer thing it is a everyone thing...if he felt used say that don't get an attitude and be disrespectful...in every email I have sent it has been question respectfully asked about parts or tuning...he decided that he did not want me to be a customer and treated me poorly...I am pretty sure most of u were lucky enough to have positive experiences with AED I just was not one of them...for the record my pm box is full of people who have equal experiences as mine but choose not chime in...

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I have all our emails saved.
When your motor was at the machine shop I gave you the part #'s of the valves prings needed for the Ed Curtis Camshaft.

I'm assuming it was not tuned at that time. I could be wrong?

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Nope car was tuned in may...before we discussed the valvesprings...I asked because I changed heads...like I stated before I spoke to you after the car was tuned...check the emails

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I was under the impression your car was recently tuned, per the emails above where you state you were going WOT on the new setup. Why blow the new combo by going WOT without a dynotune...

Looks like it is a mis-understanding of Emails.

Too bad you had to start this shit-talking thread to get that sorted out.

[ November 25, 2009, 08:14 PM: Message edited by: 93PONY ]
 

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Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on :
 
Who misunderstood...I understood my emails...but it is all good it is probably for the best...for the record I have 10-15 pms from other on the board who will remain nameless who have had similar issues with AED, but it is what it is...
 

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Posted by Als50 (Member # 6003) on :
 
And this boys and girls, is how Thanksgiving came to be!
 

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Posted by jaejae (Member # 7958) on :
 

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Originally posted by 23109:
the thread is for people that had bad shit with AED. Someone says they had a bad time and BOOM people wanna kill them.

side note: sptvnm if AED gave you a doller for everytime you sucked their dick or kissed their ass you would be able to afford to fix your car up.

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by BULLITTMAN:

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by BULLITTMAN:

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by DLo:
I've spoken to both Shaun and Drew at AED for extended amounts of time - over the phone, PMs, and emails. I've never been treated rudely, and I've never even spent a single dime with them. I plan on bringing my car there when my broke ass can afford it.

If you really knew me the last thing I am is cheap...Like I told Mr. Fasthatch, if you want to get to know me come by Jae Jae's house anytime and ask for me...then you can retract that comment...lol Jae Jae he called me cheap!

Seeing as how you feel like you were treated rudely through email, is there a chance that one of you took it the wrong way? Reading text instead of hearing words can come off differently. I find it hard to believe too since they've both received such good feedback from people on and off this forum. Either way, good luck, and I hope the issue gets worked out.

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My original question
"Can I start my car using 60lb injectors and calibrated Mass air? Or do I need it tuned to take out fuel at start up? I have it tuned to 42lb injectors and calibrated mass air right now…."

His Responses
"Why don't you ask your tuner."

"Let me know when you are ready to be a paying AED customer. My time and knowledge is valuable"

"Definition of a customer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customer


You were a Potential Customer for a tune. Therefore I gave you all the information you asked for. It was my understanding you were getting the car ready to bring it to me to tune. Once you went with another tuner, you were no longer a Potential Customer for a Tune.....nor were you an actual AED Customer since we've never done work for you, nor sold you any products.


Had you been an AED Customer, I would have done my best to earn your Respect, and perhaps you would have earned mine.


Respect is earned, not given."


You be the judge...

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Like I said it seems to be a misunderstanding, It looks like he thought you asked all these questions and went to another tuner instead of coming to him. I bet if you call him and stop trying to cause shit on this forum everything would be straightened out. Give whoever you e-mailed a call, they are both stand up guys.

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Your a AED customer I expect you to believe it is a misunderstanding...AED and I have communicated via email about this situation and they don't want me as a customer...They were rude and disrespectful in my book and regardless if someone is a customer or not u should still respect them period...Lack of respect leaves people shot or toothless where I am from...I understand where they are coming from, but with all the dick riding happening on this website for their services i expected a little more...I am not going to put people on blast, but I am not the only one not swinging for AED nuts on this website, just the only one speaking up...I am unsatisfied "potential" customer using a pro AED website to voice my dissatisfaction...If it was really a misundestanding who job is it to clear it up the customer or the business...

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It has been cleared read above...and it seems you were being a cheap bastard and now you're bitching because he stopped helping you...

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The Last thing i am is cheap...but like i told Fasthatch, come by Jae Jae house and ask for me and then make a comment like that...The only difference between me and you is that I have not spent money with AED...Jae Jae he called me cheap

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frist douche why would i go to jae jae home an ask for you are trying to threat me if you are good luck on that.it really sounds like your pissed b/c aed fried you as a potential customer
so why dont you spend money tuning your car at the track i heard don baileys looking for work

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you can come over fasthatch, we can smoke newports all day and watch dopefiends walk around the hood
 

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Posted by jaejae (Member # 7958) on :
 

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Originally posted by rmadison007:
Who misunderstood...I understood my emails...but it is all good it is probably for the best...for the record I have 10-15 pms from other on the board who will remain nameless who have had similar issues with AED, but it is what it is...

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i dont understand how you wanna go any faster than your car is already..after driving your expensive ass toy today i feel like my car doesnt move at all..lmao ...and for you guys that think this guy is cheap you will be very surprised at what he has and works hard for,dont judge rmadison007 unless you know him personally..cafords makes me laugh.it creates unneccesary beef toward people who would actually get along in real life and would enjoy eachothers company..so next time you read something or see something that you dont like wait till you meet them in person to make a judgement
 

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Posted by 90gtvert (Member # 8697) on :
 

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Originally posted by rmadison007:
Who misunderstood...I understood my emails...but it is all good it is probably for the best...for the record I have 10-15 pms from other on the board who will remain nameless who have had similar issues with AED, but it is what it is...

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Originally posted by jaejae:

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Originally posted by fasthatch:

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by BULLITTMAN:

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by BULLITTMAN:

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by DLo:
I've spoken to both Shaun and Drew at AED for extended amounts of time - over the phone, PMs, and emails. I've never been treated rudely, and I've never even spent a single dime with them. I plan on bringing my car there when my broke ass can afford it.

If you really knew me the last thing I am is cheap...Like I told Mr. Fasthatch, if you want to get to know me come by Jae Jae's house anytime and ask for me...then you can retract that comment...lol Jae Jae he called me cheap!

Seeing as how you feel like you were treated rudely through email, is there a chance that one of you took it the wrong way? Reading text instead of hearing words can come off differently. I find it hard to believe too since they've both received such good feedback from people on and off this forum. Either way, good luck, and I hope the issue gets worked out.

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My original question
"Can I start my car using 60lb injectors and calibrated Mass air? Or do I need it tuned to take out fuel at start up? I have it tuned to 42lb injectors and calibrated mass air right now…."

His Responses
"Why don't you ask your tuner."

"Let me know when you are ready to be a paying AED customer. My time and knowledge is valuable"

"Definition of a customer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customer


You were a Potential Customer for a tune. Therefore I gave you all the information you asked for. It was my understanding you were getting the car ready to bring it to me to tune. Once you went with another tuner, you were no longer a Potential Customer for a Tune.....nor were you an actual AED Customer since we've never done work for you, nor sold you any products.


Had you been an AED Customer, I would have done my best to earn your Respect, and perhaps you would have earned mine.


Respect is earned, not given."


You be the judge...

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Like I said it seems to be a misunderstanding, It looks like he thought you asked all these questions and went to another tuner instead of coming to him. I bet if you call him and stop trying to cause shit on this forum everything would be straightened out. Give whoever you e-mailed a call, they are both stand up guys.

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Your a AED customer I expect you to believe it is a misunderstanding...AED and I have communicated via email about this situation and they don't want me as a customer...They were rude and disrespectful in my book and regardless if someone is a customer or not u should still respect them period...Lack of respect leaves people shot or toothless where I am from...I understand where they are coming from, but with all the dick riding happening on this website for their services i expected a little more...I am not going to put people on blast, but I am not the only one not swinging for AED nuts on this website, just the only one speaking up...I am unsatisfied "potential" customer using a pro AED website to voice my dissatisfaction...If it was really a misundestanding who job is it to clear it up the customer or the business...

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It has been cleared read above...and it seems you were being a cheap bastard and now you're bitching because he stopped helping you...

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The Last thing i am is cheap...but like i told Fasthatch, come by Jae Jae house and ask for me and then make a comment like that...The only difference between me and you is that I have not spent money with AED...Jae Jae he called me cheap

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frist douche why would i go to jae jae home an ask for you are trying to threat me if you are good luck on that.it really sounds like your pissed b/c aed fried you as a potential customer
so why dont you spend money tuning your car at the track i heard don baileys looking for work

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you can come over fasthatch, we can smoke newports all day and watch dopefiends walk around the hood

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Originally posted by 90gtvert:

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Originally posted by rmadison007:
Who misunderstood...I understood my emails...but it is all good it is probably for the best...for the record I have 10-15 pms from other on the board who will remain nameless who have had similar issues with AED, but it is what it is...

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Your seriously full of shit unless you post the info.

I have proof of aliens, but im not gonna show it, cause it is what it is.

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Originally posted by rmadison007:
You both must have been great customers who spent money with them...Do you think they would be cool guys if you did not spend money with them?...Do you think they would be rude and disrespectful if you weren't a customer...My point is, I have been shopping around for a tuner for the past couple of months after I was unsatisfied with my previous tuning experience...After trading numerous emails with AED about my tuning and engine problems I followed the detail instructions given to me to prepare my car to be retuned...I emailed the tuner to ask about injectors and he rudely replied to have me ask any more questions I had to my previous tuner...He had never before been rude or disrespectful so I inquired an found out that since I was not a customer and never bought products from AED that he did not have to earn or give me respect and that all help, respect, and knowledge is for potential and paying customers...With all the praise AED receives on CAfords I was not expecting this...I recently was praising them to some of my peers because I felt they went above and beyond for someone who was a potential customer and that I was planning on getting my card tuned by them...After this I will never be an AED customer...I should have listened to Albert and stayed away...It says alot about a business or person on how they treat people who don't spend money with them, because that is honest no money involved...

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by BULLITTMAN:

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by DLo:
I've spoken to both Shaun and Drew at AED for extended amounts of time - over the phone, PMs, and emails. I've never been treated rudely, and I've never even spent a single dime with them. I plan on bringing my car there when my broke ass can afford it.

Seeing as how you feel like you were treated rudely through email, is there a chance that one of you took it the wrong way? Reading text instead of hearing words can come off differently. I find it hard to believe too since they've both received such good feedback from people on and off this forum. Either way, good luck, and I hope the issue gets worked out.

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My original question
"Can I start my car using 60lb injectors and calibrated Mass air? Or do I need it tuned to take out fuel at start up? I have it tuned to 42lb injectors and calibrated mass air right now…."

His Responses
"Why don't you ask your tuner."

"Let me know when you are ready to be a paying AED customer. My time and knowledge is valuable"

"Definition of a customer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customer


You were a Potential Customer for a tune. Therefore I gave you all the information you asked for. It was my understanding you were getting the car ready to bring it to me to tune. Once you went with another tuner, you were no longer a Potential Customer for a Tune.....nor were you an actual AED Customer since we've never done work for you, nor sold you any products.


Had you been an AED Customer, I would have done my best to earn your Respect, and perhaps you would have earned mine.


Respect is earned, not given."


You be the judge...

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Like I said it seems to be a misunderstanding, It looks like he thought you asked all these questions and went to another tuner instead of coming to him. I bet if you call him and stop trying to cause shit on this forum everything would be straightened out. Give whoever you e-mailed a call, they are both stand up guys.

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Your a AED customer I expect you to believe it is a misunderstanding...AED and I have communicated via email about this situation and they don't want me as a customer...They were rude and disrespectful in my book and regardless if someone is a customer or not u should still respect them period...Lack of respect leaves people shot or toothless where I am from...I understand where they are coming from, but with all the dick riding happening on this website for their services i expected a little more...I am not going to put people on blast, but I am not the only one not swinging for AED nuts on this website, just the only one speaking up...I am unsatisfied "potential" customer using a pro AED website to voice my dissatisfaction...If it was really a misundestanding who job is it to clear it up the customer or the business...

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Originally posted by rmadison007:
Obviously you don't completely understand the situation...First my car was tuned by someone else...Second I asked Shaun questions and advice as a potential customer...Third He thought my car was never tuned and that i tuned it after speaking to him and upgrading my valvetrain, which was not the case...Fourth, he spoke to a potential customer who really wanted to schedule a tune and will be tuned somewhere before christmas in a negative and rude manner because he felt used base on a misunderstanding...And yes this site is pro AED that is why I stated before why I have several Pm's from members who want to remain nameless having similar problems, but would rather not be bombarded with the overwhelming amount of AED lovers...I believe you are just late to the situation and did not fully understand how grateful and appreciative i was about the help I received from Shaun and was surprised when he decided to be rude...I understand where he is coming from, but what happened wasn't right bottom line...imo!

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idda told you too kick rocks a long time ago, you gotta understand these guys feed there kids with that business im assuming, for you too slander then isnt cool. and for the record fasthatch is like 6-7 275 solid
 

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Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on :
 
Both you and fasthatch pm me your number and i will give u guys a call and we can all meet up so i can put a face to the name or on the next ride out wear a name tag and we can talk about whatever you like...
 

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Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
How about we settle all this like gentlmen.

I'll tune your car for 1/2 price. Any time you want.
 

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Posted by bottled95GT?? (Member # 1772) on :
 
Holy bejesus i stopped checking this thread on my cell hours ago, damn i never thought itd get this outta hand.... Oh and boys for the record, i called it back on page 1
 

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Posted by blown95svt (Member # 8893) on :
 

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Originally posted by 93PONY:
How about we settle all this like gentlmen.

I'll tune your car for 1/2 price. Any time you want.

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now if thats not a stand up guy,i dont know what is!

93pony
 

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Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on :
 
Just tune my car...I don't need hand outs, but i respect your gesture...PM your cell number and i will give you a call after thanksgiving...
 

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Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 

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Originally posted by rmadison007:
Just tune my car...I don't need hand outs, but i respect your gesture...PM your cell number and i will give you a call after thanksgiving...

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Right on.
# is in sig & on the website.
 

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Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
Have a Good Thanksgiving Holiday Fella's.


 

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Posted by 5.0-srt-4 (Member # 5864) on :
 

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Originally posted by rmadison007:
Both you and fasthatch pm me your number and i will give u guys a call and we can all meet up so i can put a face to the name or on the next ride out wear a name tag and we can talk about whatever you like...

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me?
id like to talk about the stock market and obama over a frap at starbucks u down?

[ November 26, 2009, 01:07 AM: Message edited by: 5.0-srt-4 ]
 

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Posted by 89bluenotch (Member # 7454) on :
 
Happy thanksgiving!!!!!!!
 

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Posted by 5.0-srt-4 (Member # 5864) on :
 
man, i really cant believe dude is getting fluffy over this, you think you can state your opinion,but when we state ours you wanna meet up lol thats soft, why are you getting all worked up
 

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Posted by SAMACH1 (Member # 7042) on :
 

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Originally posted by 93PONY:
How about we settle all this like gentlmen.

I'll tune your car for 1/2 price. Any time you want.

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...hmmm now that i think of it, you were kinda RUDE hahahah JK for a standup guy, thats good shit and im glad you guys worked past all the BS..
 

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Posted by rmadison007 (Member # 8670) on :
 
Not angry or upset, just would like to meet some of the people who like to express their opinions...I have only met a very few of the people from this website through ride out and meetups, but those that tend to post the most never come and no one ever wear name tags...I honestly just wanted to put a face to the two names...And where is this training gym? Address? I think if most of you who expressed your opinions met me you would understand I am a stand up guy, but until i meet any of you i am just a screen name...
 

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Posted by 8stang8 (Member # 8082) on :
 

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Originally posted by rmadison007:
Not angry or upset, just would like to meet some of the people who like to express their opinions...I have only met a very few of the people from this website through ride out and meetups, but those that tend to post the most never come and no one ever wear name tags...I honestly just wanted to put a face to the two names...And where is this training gym? Address? I think if most of you who expressed your opinions met me you would understand I am a stand up guy, but until i meet any of you i am just a screen name...

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Originally posted by rmadison007:
Just tune my car...I don't need hand outs, but i respect your gesture...PM your cell number and i will give you a call after thanksgiving...

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Hope things work out for you
 

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Posted by WIKDVNM (Member # 2805) on :
 
Wow..

Hell I drive up and Drew welcomes me with "Hows my baby" CAR!

Shaun just smiles,,,

When I leave I get a hug from Shaun and Drew flips me off...


I love those guys.
 

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Posted by LETHL 03 (Member # 5401) on :
 
Now thats what i call a deal, 1/2 price. good stuff Shaun
 

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Posted by SPTVENM (Member # 7080) on :
 

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Originally posted by 23109:
the thread is for people that had bad shit with AED. Someone says they had a bad time and BOOM people wanna kill them.

side note: sptvnm if AED gave you a doller for everytime you sucked their dick or kissed their ass you would be able to afford to fix your car up.

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Originally posted by 23109:
your nuts? Haha yea I want my mustang to still run the same times it did when ford built it.

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Originally posted by 23109:
your nuts? Haha yea I want my mustang to still run the same times it did when ford built it.

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Originally posted by SPTVENM:

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Originally posted by 23109:
your nuts? Haha yea I want my mustang to still run the same times it did when ford built it.

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Stop talkin shit then if ur not on my nuts, what the fuck do u care who works on my car or what it runs. My car, my money....I suggest u worry bout ur own shit and not mine

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yo spt this wack ass fool works for next gen ride up there and rise hell got problems call me ill only like 10 mins away
 

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Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :
 

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Originally posted by 93PONY:
How about we settle all this like gentlmen.

I'll tune your car for 1/2 price. Any time you want.

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Serious? All it takes is a post from a potential customer and you drop your rates by half?

How about a deal for us long-time customers? I say you're short, like a leprechaun, your shop is dirty, and I don't like the color of your car. Can the rate be 1/3 now?

Just messin' with you guys. Hopefully it all comes out in the wash.
 

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Posted by jaejae (Member # 7958) on :
 

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Originally posted by fasthatch:

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Originally posted by jaejae:

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Originally posted by fasthatch:

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by BULLITTMAN:

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by BULLITTMAN:

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by DLo:
I've spoken to both Shaun and Drew at AED for extended amounts of time - over the phone, PMs, and emails. I've never been treated rudely, and I've never even spent a single dime with them. I plan on bringing my car there when my broke ass can afford it.

If you really knew me the last thing I am is cheap...Like I told Mr. Fasthatch, if you want to get to know me come by Jae Jae's house anytime and ask for me...then you can retract that comment...lol Jae Jae he called me cheap!

Seeing as how you feel like you were treated rudely through email, is there a chance that one of you took it the wrong way? Reading text instead of hearing words can come off differently. I find it hard to believe too since they've both received such good feedback from people on and off this forum. Either way, good luck, and I hope the issue gets worked out.

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My original question
"Can I start my car using 60lb injectors and calibrated Mass air? Or do I need it tuned to take out fuel at start up? I have it tuned to 42lb injectors and calibrated mass air right now…."

His Responses
"Why don't you ask your tuner."

"Let me know when you are ready to be a paying AED customer. My time and knowledge is valuable"

"Definition of a customer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customer


You were a Potential Customer for a tune. Therefore I gave you all the information you asked for. It was my understanding you were getting the car ready to bring it to me to tune. Once you went with another tuner, you were no longer a Potential Customer for a Tune.....nor were you an actual AED Customer since we've never done work for you, nor sold you any products.


Had you been an AED Customer, I would have done my best to earn your Respect, and perhaps you would have earned mine.


Respect is earned, not given."


You be the judge...

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Like I said it seems to be a misunderstanding, It looks like he thought you asked all these questions and went to another tuner instead of coming to him. I bet if you call him and stop trying to cause shit on this forum everything would be straightened out. Give whoever you e-mailed a call, they are both stand up guys.

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Your a AED customer I expect you to believe it is a misunderstanding...AED and I have communicated via email about this situation and they don't want me as a customer...They were rude and disrespectful in my book and regardless if someone is a customer or not u should still respect them period...Lack of respect leaves people shot or toothless where I am from...I understand where they are coming from, but with all the dick riding happening on this website for their services i expected a little more...I am not going to put people on blast, but I am not the only one not swinging for AED nuts on this website, just the only one speaking up...I am unsatisfied "potential" customer using a pro AED website to voice my dissatisfaction...If it was really a misundestanding who job is it to clear it up the customer or the business...

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It has been cleared read above...and it seems you were being a cheap bastard and now you're bitching because he stopped helping you...

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The Last thing i am is cheap...but like i told Fasthatch, come by Jae Jae house and ask for me and then make a comment like that...The only difference between me and you is that I have not spent money with AED...Jae Jae he called me cheap

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frist douche why would i go to jae jae home an ask for you are trying to threat me if you are good luck on that.it really sounds like your pissed b/c aed fried you as a potential customer
so why dont you spend money tuning your car at the track i heard don baileys looking for work

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you can come over fasthatch, we can smoke newports all day and watch dopefiends walk around the hood

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been there an done that before you were even born

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let me guess you were the the dopefiend
 

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Posted by fasthatch (Member # 7277) on :
 

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Originally posted by jaejae:

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Originally posted by fasthatch:

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Originally posted by jaejae:

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Originally posted by fasthatch:

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by BULLITTMAN:

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by BULLITTMAN:

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Originally posted by rmadison007:

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Originally posted by DLo:
I've spoken to both Shaun and Drew at AED for extended amounts of time - over the phone, PMs, and emails. I've never been treated rudely, and I've never even spent a single dime with them. I plan on bringing my car there when my broke ass can afford it.

If you really knew me the last thing I am is cheap...Like I told Mr. Fasthatch, if you want to get to know me come by Jae Jae's house anytime and ask for me...then you can retract that comment...lol Jae Jae he called me cheap!

Seeing as how you feel like you were treated rudely through email, is there a chance that one of you took it the wrong way? Reading text instead of hearing words can come off differently. I find it hard to believe too since they've both received such good feedback from people on and off this forum. Either way, good luck, and I hope the issue gets worked out.

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My original question
"Can I start my car using 60lb injectors and calibrated Mass air? Or do I need it tuned to take out fuel at start up? I have it tuned to 42lb injectors and calibrated mass air right now…."

His Responses
"Why don't you ask your tuner."

"Let me know when you are ready to be a paying AED customer. My time and knowledge is valuable"

"Definition of a customer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customer


You were a Potential Customer for a tune. Therefore I gave you all the information you asked for. It was my understanding you were getting the car ready to bring it to me to tune. Once you went with another tuner, you were no longer a Potential Customer for a Tune.....nor were you an actual AED Customer since we've never done work for you, nor sold you any products.


Had you been an AED Customer, I would have done my best to earn your Respect, and perhaps you would have earned mine.


Respect is earned, not given."


You be the judge...

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Like I said it seems to be a misunderstanding, It looks like he thought you asked all these questions and went to another tuner instead of coming to him. I bet if you call him and stop trying to cause shit on this forum everything would be straightened out. Give whoever you e-mailed a call, they are both stand up guys.

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Your a AED customer I expect you to believe it is a misunderstanding...AED and I have communicated via email about this situation and they don't want me as a customer...They were rude and disrespectful in my book and regardless if someone is a customer or not u should still respect them period...Lack of respect leaves people shot or toothless where I am from...I understand where they are coming from, but with all the dick riding happening on this website for their services i expected a little more...I am not going to put people on blast, but I am not the only one not swinging for AED nuts on this website, just the only one speaking up...I am unsatisfied "potential" customer using a pro AED website to voice my dissatisfaction...If it was really a misundestanding who job is it to clear it up the customer or the business...

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It has been cleared read above...and it seems you were being a cheap bastard and now you're bitching because he stopped helping you...

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The Last thing i am is cheap...but like i told Fasthatch, come by Jae Jae house and ask for me and then make a comment like that...The only difference between me and you is that I have not spent money with AED...Jae Jae he called me cheap

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frist douche why would i go to jae jae home an ask for you are trying to threat me if you are good luck on that.it really sounds like your pissed b/c aed fried you as a potential customer
so why dont you spend money tuning your car at the track i heard don baileys looking for work

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you can come over fasthatch, we can smoke newports all day and watch dopefiends walk around the hood

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been there an done that before you were even born

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let me guess you were the the dopefiend

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Originally posted by CALiFORNIAGT:

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Originally posted by SPTVENM:

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Originally posted by 23109:
your nuts? Haha yea I want my mustang to still run the same times it did when ford built it.

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Stop talkin shit then if ur not on my nuts, what the fuck do u care who works on my car or what it runs. My car, my money....I suggest u worry bout ur own shit and not mine

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yo spt this wack ass fool works for next gen ride up there and rise hell got problems call me ill only like 10 mins away

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Originally posted by 50 Deep:
Recently I had a odd experience with shaun. I have spent a lot of days sending emails, calls and pm's to shaun periodically asking questions about building my cobra when I had it. Pretty much always answered my questions and was a cool guy even when I met him off the boards. He even agreed to look @ a 03 cobra I was planning to buy. Basically I was a dreamer and never had cash to bring my plans to fruition or deals fell through. But I did learn a lot and Because of continued good experinces I referred my buddy DTB to his shop to get his motor built. Figured I would find a way to get shaun some money since I couldn't spend any. and my buddy went in there and dropped some nice coin. I Also would refer anyone I knew to definitely go there for work.

However it wasn't until recently when I did my budget build I got hit with a different experience. When I decided to get my motor built I ended up with john B doing the assembly and planned to have shaun design me a custom cam and tune it. Best of both worlds. However when I came to shaun to ask him if I could pay him to design the cam and what ratio rockers to use for the cam there was issues. Once he knew I was having the assembly done elswhere he was reluctant to spec the cam and stood me up on the day I was supposed to come to the shop with the cash. He informed that I wasn't going to be able to get info for free, even tho I said I would pay him for the cam and then a tune later. And the only info I needed was related to the cam since I would rather I set up the top end to his liking so when it gets on the dyno there isn't issues with the parts being used. Haven't spoken with shaun since. Left me feeling a little disappointed that because I wasn't spending big money @ the shop my business wasn't good enough.

So I have had many good experiences with shaun and AED but I have also had one that wasn't so good. I get that a shop has overhead and information that took years to gain is pricelss. But then you shouldn't put salt in the mouth of potential customers. Ultimately its up to the shop owner however. I'm posting this because I see a lot of people here acting like rmadison007 is out of his mind. I have met reggie and he isn't a douche, idiot, or cheap skate. I'm not bashing AED or Reggie or defending either side. Just sharing my experiences.

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I can see both sides of this.

The only side I can speak with personal experience about is how AED may feel. I remember several pms from 50DEEP about his motor build and was happy to aid in any way shape or form prior to him having his motor built......JohnB ended up getting the job. Now I wasnt short with 50DEEP and JohnB is a friend of mine and does great work, but I did feel a little butt hurt at first (being honest here), then realizing that this is america and a free world, I got over it. Matter of fact, I am picking up some parts from Terrence when I get a chance to get up there, if at all.

Bottom line, treat everyone as fairly as you can because this is a small, small community.
 

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Posted by 23109 (Member # 4347) on :
 
come thru! I'm down sptvnm.
 

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Posted by SPTVENM (Member # 7080) on :
 
for the most part i have had nothin but good deals, advice and experiences with AED, but there was only one time where i felt like (50deep) as to where my car wasnt good enough for the shop.

when i took my car in Shaun sorta give me a hard time about my oil leak and how he didnt want my car leakin all over the shop and on the dyno. also i had alot of lil problems with my car and he told me that AED was basically a performance modding shop not a repair shop.....BUT we talked it out and he made an exception with my car and still had the patience to work with me and deal with my car. I guess i can understand because their shop is ridiculously clean and has a very good rep

besides those two lil conflicts that we had and yet worked out, thats about the only bad experience i can say. Im sure everyone has had lil issues with a buncha shops n ppl but most of the time get worked out
 

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Posted by SPTVENM (Member # 7080) on :
 

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Originally posted by 23109:
come thru! I'm down sptvnm.

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Originally posted by 93PONY:
I did not stand you up T. I was at the shop tuning.
I missed your call during the day & did not notice till I was leaving the shop that night. Too late to call you back.... I then forgot all about for a week or so.... (I forget quite a bit in my old age)
I figured if you really wanted a custom cam you would have gotten ahold of me. And, like you said, IMO it would not have made much more HP (due to valve train restrictions) than an alphabet cam.

We love you & Daily.... You guys are always welcome at the shop, anytime.

From time to time we have too much on our plate & it becomes very difficult to keep everybody happy all the time. I'm sorry about this. We could really use a receptionist or someone that can field phone calls with customer questions. But... We don't, so it's up to the 2 of us to do everything....& sometimes we simply can't.

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Originally posted by 93PONY:
I did not stand you up T. I was at the shop tuning.
I missed your call during the day & did not notice till I was leaving the shop that night. Too late to call you back.... I then forgot all about for a week or so.... (I forget quite a bit in my old age)
I figured if you really wanted a custom cam you would have gotten ahold of me. And, like you said, IMO it would not have made much more HP (due to valve train restrictions) than an alphabet cam.

We love you & Daily.... You guys are always welcome at the shop, anytime.

From time to time we have too much on our plate & it becomes very difficult to keep everybody happy all the time. I'm sorry about this. We could really use a receptionist or someone that can field phone calls with customer questions. But... We don't, so it's up to the 2 of us to do everything....& sometimes we simply can't.

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ive known shaun and drew for almost 8 years now from being a friend and a customer.i call either one from time to time for a question or 2 and i might not get a call back from them for 15 minutes to a couple of days.(there busy as hell and they also got personal lives like everyone else)and right now im going through a combo change and i always have questions and they always tell me want i need or whatever. they are always patient with me cuz im also peiceing a new combo together and there never said im bothering them or need $$$ for my questions.in short i appriciate all of shauns and drews time out of there day to give there input on my questions, and when im ready there is no other company out there but there's i would take my cars too.

[ November 26, 2009, 08:39 PM: Message edited by: 4.6 EATIN GM'S ]
 

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Posted by CALiFORNIAGT (Member # 7845) on :
 
hahaha whos the guy at aed i talked to about gettin a lentech tranny? for my mustang?
 

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Posted by Jessie P (Member # 7073) on :
 
I didn't read all the post but I will throw in my 2 cents. I have had a few friends who have had work done by AED and some impressions are good some are UN-happy. With that being said I haven't had any work done with AED personally but I have talked with Shaun a few times. He has always answered any questions I've had in the past. I haven't had much experience with Drew. Your always going to find good and bad. It's the nature of the business. All you need to be worried about is the impression or feeling you get when YOU walk through the door. No one is perfect we all know this. However I hold judgment on the shop even though I've had friends do business with them and it's been good and bad I haven't had work done so until then if ever I do I will give my honest review about there workmanship. Without some bad business there would be no good business. People have to learn from their past mistakes and move forward.
 

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Posted by fasthatch (Member # 7277) on :
 
hey the op spec fab aka virgule
 

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Posted by bottled95GT?? (Member # 1772) on :
 

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Originally posted by fasthatch:
hey the op spec fab aka virgule

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Originally posted by fasthatch:
hey the op spec fab aka virgil

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The OP is not SpecFab aka Virgil. I've known Reggie for a long time now, and he's known my Cobra even longer. No need to start drama by suggesting that.


In a perfect world, it would be nice to think that every shop, or individual that does work for that matter, should answer every phone call/pm/email/etc in a quick and courtious manner, all free of charge. The fact of the matter is this- most, if not ALL of us (and I use the term "us" to describe the automotive community) have lives and responsibiities outside of coming up with a fix for the latest and greatest problem that has come down the pike. Also, people DO get rubbed the wrong way when you spend a considerable amount of time answering questions, responding to phone messages, answering emails...with the "thought" that work will be done in the future, just to have that all go by the wayside and the job is taken elsewhere. It sucks, but unfortunately...that's the way it goes. It happens to me, to Turbo50, to Shaun and Drew at AED, Nexgen, Newtech, etc. We all deal with it. I've had it personally happen to me no fewer than 3 times in the past 2 weeks. I won't even begin to mention folks you do work for in advance to help them out, tow cars for them, do favors for "friends" who turn out to be folks who are actually just looking to make a come-up, etc. You end up writing people off...and they wonder why you won't answer phone calls?

Then you have these SAME people call you, text you, want to ask questions on why "x,y, and z" aren't working right on their car...yet still can't grasp the concept that they haven't spent a dime for the info they've recieved and do not intend to. If they want to post up in Tech with their questions, great! They will get the answers they need from the vast resource of the board. I truly believe it is at a shop's disadvantage to post on a board, of any kind, as a individual due to the lines not being clear as to what is personal help and what is quantified as "shop" help. Same can be said for those who do work on the side, as it is basically "expected" due to being a member here. That's ok though, it's the way it is.

In the end...
...you can please all the people some of the time..
...some of the people all the time...
...but you will never please all the people all the time...
 

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Posted by fasthatch (Member # 7277) on :
 

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Originally posted by JohnB:

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Originally posted by fasthatch:
hey the op spec fab aka virgil

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The OP is not SpecFab aka Virgil. I've known Reggie for a long time now, and he's known my Cobra even longer. No need to start drama by suggesting that.


In a perfect world, it would be nice to think that every shop, or individual that does work for that matter, should answer every phone call/pm/email/etc in a quick and courtious manner, all free of charge. The fact of the matter is this- most, if not ALL of us (and I use the term "us" to describe the automotive community) have lives and responsibiities outside of coming up with a fix for the latest and greatest problem that has come down the pike. Also, people DO get rubbed the wrong way when you spend a considerable amount of time answering questions, responding to phone messages, answering emails...with the "thought" that work will be done in the future, just to have that all go by the wayside and the job is taken elsewhere. It sucks, but unfortunately...that's the way it goes. It happens to me, to Turbo50, to Shaun and Drew at AED, Nexgen, Newtech, etc. We all deal with it. I've had it personally happen to me no fewer than 3 times in the past 2 weeks. I won't even begin to mention folks you do work for in advance to help them out, tow cars for them, do favors for "friends" who turn out to be folks who are actually just looking to make a come-up, etc. You end up writing people off...and they wonder why you won't answer phone calls?

Then you have these SAME people call you, text you, want to ask questions on why "x,y, and z" aren't working right on their car...yet still can't grasp the concept that they haven't spent a dime for the info they've recieved and do not intend to. If they want to post up in Tech with their questions, great! They will get the answers they need from the vast resource of the board. I truly believe it is at a shop's disadvantage to post on a board, of any kind, as a individual due to the lines not being clear as to what is personal help and what is quantified as "shop" help. Same can be said for those who do work on the side, as it is basically "expected" due to being a member here. That's ok though, it's the way it is.

In the end...
...you can please all the people some of the time..
...some of the people all the time...
...but you will never please all the people all the time...

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not trying to start drama just saking a question
 

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Posted by fastertoys1 (Member # 5270) on :
 
looks what happens while im gone........

for the record im a very unsatisfied A.E.D. customer . i had many misfortunes with A.E.D and the more i play with my car the more im seeing problem left by A.E.D. i don't wish to explain much cause its not worth my time. just put me down for a unhappy customer.
 

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Posted by SYDEWAYZ 24/7 (Member # 8725) on :
 
all i gota say for this thread is WOW
 

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Posted by 5.0-srt-4 (Member # 5864) on :
 
i think this thread is good for aed, 99% happy customer rate, theyll get my business when and if i need that type of work
 

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Posted by blown95svt (Member # 8893) on :
 

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Originally posted by fastertoys1:
looks what happens while im gone........

for the record im a very unsatisfied A.E.D. customer . i had many misfortunes with A.E.D and the more i play with my car the more im seeing problem left by A.E.D. i don't wish to explain much cause its not worth my time. just put me down for a unhappy customer.

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Originally posted by blown95svt:

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Originally posted by fastertoys1:
looks what happens while im gone........

for the record im a very unsatisfied A.E.D. customer . i had many misfortunes with A.E.D and the more i play with my car the more im seeing problem left by A.E.D. i don't wish to explain much cause its not worth my time. just put me down for a unhappy customer.

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what the complaint??? cant just say im unhappy! did you have a piece of junk car they refused to work with?

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Originally posted by blown95svt:

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Originally posted by blown95svt:

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Originally posted by fastertoys1:
looks what happens while im gone........

for the record im a very unsatisfied A.E.D. customer . i had many misfortunes with A.E.D and the more i play with my car the more im seeing problem left by A.E.D. i don't wish to explain much cause its not worth my time. just put me down for a unhappy customer.

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what the complaint??? cant just say im unhappy! did you have a piece of junk car they refused to work with?

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wait!!! did you have the orange 4eye?

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Originally posted by fastertoys1:

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Originally posted by blown95svt:

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Originally posted by blown95svt:

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Originally posted by fastertoys1:
looks what happens while im gone........

for the record im a very unsatisfied A.E.D. customer . i had many misfortunes with A.E.D and the more i play with my car the more im seeing problem left by A.E.D. i don't wish to explain much cause its not worth my time. just put me down for a unhappy customer.

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what the complaint??? cant just say im unhappy! did you have a piece of junk car they refused to work with?

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wait!!! did you have the orange 4eye?

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yes i have the orange 86 coupe.A.E.D. was unable to tune it after i paid $2500+ to set the car up to their specs to tune.

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Originally posted by JohnB:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by fasthatch:


In a perfect world, it would be nice to think that every shop, or individual that does work for that matter, should answer every phone call/pm/email/etc in a quick and courtious manner, all free of charge. The fact of the matter is this- most, if not ALL of us (and I use the term "us" to describe the automotive community) have lives and responsibiities outside of coming up with a fix for the latest and greatest problem that has come down the pike. Also, people DO get rubbed the wrong way when you spend a considerable amount of time answering questions, responding to phone messages, answering emails...with the "thought" that work will be done in the future, just to have that all go by the wayside and the job is taken elsewhere. It sucks, but unfortunately...that's the way it goes. It happens to me, to Turbo50, to Shaun and Drew at AED, Nexgen, Newtech, etc. We all deal with it. I've had it personally happen to me no fewer than 3 times in the past 2 weeks. I won't even begin to mention folks you do work for in advance to help them out, tow cars for them, do favors for "friends" who turn out to be folks who are actually just looking to make a come-up, etc. You end up writing people off...and they wonder why you won't answer phone calls?

Then you have these SAME people call you, text you, want to ask questions on why "x,y, and z" aren't working right on their car...yet still can't grasp the concept that they haven't spent a dime for the info they've recieved and do not intend to. If they want to post up in Tech with their questions, great! They will get the answers they need from the vast resource of the board. I truly believe it is at a shop's disadvantage to post on a board, of any kind, as a individual due to the lines not being clear as to what is personal help and what is quantified as "shop" help. Same can be said for those who do work on the side, as it is basically "expected" due to being a member here. That's ok though, it's the way it is.

In the end...
...you can please all the people some of the time..
...some of the people all the time...
...but you will never please all the people all the time...

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i couldn't have agreed more .
btw, i had my car put together by johnb and tuned by shaun at AED and both were good experiences.
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 

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Originally posted by fasthatch:

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Originally posted by JohnB:

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Originally posted by fasthatch:
hey the op spec fab aka virgil

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The OP is not SpecFab aka Virgil. I've known Reggie for a long time now, and he's known my Cobra even longer. No need to start drama by suggesting that.

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not trying to start drama just saking a question

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Originally posted by CALiFORNIAGT:
23109 tell your boss i wont my fuckin gas tank back! and that bunk ass cluth cable i got fuckin broke!

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Originally posted by 23109:

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Originally posted by CALiFORNIAGT:
23109 tell your boss i wont my fuckin gas tank back! and that bunk ass cluth cable i got fuckin broke!

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that cable was only rated for a 400 pound person to be pressing on it. may i suggest an upgraded model.

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Originally posted by 23109:

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Originally posted by CALiFORNIAGT:
23109 tell your boss i wont my fuckin gas tank back! and that bunk ass cluth cable i got fuckin broke!

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that cable was only rated for a 400 pound person to be pressing on it. may i suggest an upgraded model.

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funny mofo!
 

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Posted by gray03gt (Member # 6427) on :
 
I have to agree with Johnb, it doesn't do any good to post unprofessional comments if you work at a shop which members use or may use in the future. A shop like A.E.D. handles themselves professionally even on a private forum like this, look at some of the other comments coming from the other type of shops. For anyone buying a car or looking to get work done, be sure to read some of the posts made by the people selling or offering their services. I've seen a lot of "craigslist gems" that there owners don't realize are in pics and vids street racing on the different forums.

[ November 27, 2009, 10:43 PM: Message edited by: gray03gt ]
 

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Posted by trottin4.6 (Member # 8597) on :
 

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Originally posted by fastertoys1:

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Originally posted by blown95svt:

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Originally posted by blown95svt:

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Originally posted by fastertoys1:
looks what happens while im gone........

for the record im a very unsatisfied A.E.D. customer . i had many misfortunes with A.E.D and the more i play with my car the more im seeing problem left by A.E.D. i don't wish to explain much cause its not worth my time. just put me down for a unhappy customer.

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what the complaint??? cant just say im unhappy! did you have a piece of junk car they refused to work with?

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wait!!! did you have the orange 4eye?

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yes i have the orange 86 coupe.A.E.D. was unable to tune it after i paid $2500+ to set the car up to their specs to tune.

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Originally posted by trottin4.6:
i am a REPEAT customer of shaun and AED's and am very impressed with their work.

my first interaction with that shop went like this: took my block to him on saturday. sunday my custom rotating assembly and cam was spec'd out. monday afternoon: half my parts were ordered. by tuesday, all of them were ordered. three weeks later, my machine work was done, a week after that my shortblock was assembled.

my motor was on the dyno literally 3 weeks after the last part showed up. aed doesnt own an engine dyno, but i "the customer" wanted it dyno'd. shaun closed down HIS shop down to dyno the motor he built me for FREE across town. as expected, the motor made phenomenal power for the parts that shaun chose. that is how legit he is and that is just a fraction of the amazing customer service he provides. i have since had him tune my late model mustang that my wife drives for a beater. that car runs excellent as well.

i didnt read all the pages in this crap thread, but when someone spends 4 weeks choosing a tuner for a SLIGHTLY modified motor, he might as well go f-kk himself because really he isnt serious about making shit happen.

go check out the cars at AED, the majority are hardly junk and they definitely don't cater to the poor man's demographic. that is what shops like tps are there for.

if i campaign my car next year in the mustang madness class in PSCA, i will gladly rep AED.

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Originally posted by trottin4.6:

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Originally posted by fastertoys1:

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Originally posted by blown95svt:

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Originally posted by blown95svt:

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Originally posted by fastertoys1:
looks what happens while im gone........

for the record im a very unsatisfied A.E.D. customer . i had many misfortunes with A.E.D and the more i play with my car the more im seeing problem left by A.E.D. i don't wish to explain much cause its not worth my time. just put me down for a unhappy customer.

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what the complaint??? cant just say im unhappy! did you have a piece of junk car they refused to work with?

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wait!!! did you have the orange 4eye?

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yes i have the orange 86 coupe.A.E.D. was unable to tune it after i paid $2500+ to set the car up to their specs to tune.

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ive seen that car up close...talk about a rat's nest of wiring job. paint is decent from maybe 15 feet away. cheap 5 lug conversion if i remember correctly. the car just screams hacked. looks like a used parts build. i wont call it junk, but i wont disagree if the majority did. i also wouldnt be surprised if most quality shops turned this car away. i for one wouldnt want any association with it.

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