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Posted by Topete (Member # 4803) on :
 
Looking to buy first bike and kind of need some suggestions on what to get. I've managed to narrow my criteria down to...

-Getting a 600 cc
-Yamaha, Honda, Gxsr

What do you guys think? Should I get new or used?
 
Posted by essasin (Member # 4741) on :
 
How did you narrow down your criteria?

You really have to get on a bike to feel which one is right for you. I started with a Ninja 250 and moved up to an F4i.

600c bikes except maybe a sv650 are are not beginner friendly. You could learn on one and many have but I'd take the safe route and put the ego aside and learn on a smaller bike. Even a 250 has enough power to kill you and put your balls in place. I wouldn't recommend an r6 or a gixxer, they are not forgiving at all.
 
Posted by 95GTConvtACE (Member # 6399) on :
 
I just sold an 03 Honda CBR for cheap. You missed a great deal for only 3500. If I were you, I would definitely feel the bike first like the above person stated. I disagree on the 250 though. You would be wasting your money. I bought my fiance a 250, she rode it for about 3 months and was already to move up. That is why I bought the 600 for her. Then she just got bored of riding all together. If you do get a 600, keep in mind, they are quick and very dangerous. Make sure you take your time getting familiar with the bike for quite some time. I have been riding my 07 CBR for 2 years and still am not considered to be a pro rider. Also, make sure and visit Ride2die.com to remind yourself on safety first. I visit it every once in a while to put myself in check. Good luck on your purchase. By the way, I am a Honda fan, so of course I would recommend the Honda. The 07's were one of the best years to get, so if you can score an 07 for cheap, you are good to go. Of course, the Suzuki and Yamaha guys will tell you those are the bikes to get. Get what you like the best. All of the bikes are of good quality and you should have no problem with any of them.

[ October 22, 2009, 03:05 PM: Message edited by: 95GTConvtACE ]
 
Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 95GTConvtACE:
I just sold an 03 Honda CBR for cheap. You missed a great deal for only 3500. If I were you, I would definitely feel the bike first like the above person stated. I disagree on the 250 though. You would be wasting your money. I bought my fiance a 250, she rode it for about 3 months and was already to move up. That is why I bought the 600 for her. Then she just got bored of riding all together. If you do get a 600, keep in mind, they are quick and very dangerous. Make sure you take your time getting familiar with the bike for quite some time. I have been riding my 07 CBR for 2 years and still am not considered to be a pro rider. Also, make sure and visit Ride2die.com to remind yourself on safety first. I visit it every once in a while to put myself in check. Good luck on your purchase. By the way, I am a Honda fan, so of course I would recommend the Honda. The 07's were one of the best years to get, so if you can score an 07 for cheap, you are good to go. Of course, the Suzuki and Yamaha guys will tell you those are the bikes to get. Get what you like the best. All of the bikes are of good quality and you should have no problem with any of them.
[worship] [patriot] ya the website i still look at and been riding for yrs...and ya yamaha all the way..lmao..go by how YOU feel on the bike..not looks or wha people say...like gsxr r better for somewha shorter people cuz they sit lower..etc...
 
Posted by Topete (Member # 4803) on :
 
Thanks all for advice. I don't think I'll be spending money on anything smaller than 600, nothing to do with ego but I know I'll be upgrading. I don't consider myself to be careless, nor do I plan on testing my bike out to see how fast it can go anytime soon.

I also have some friends who started with gsxrs (600) off the bat and have done fine...so far.

Also, I've been looking at a lot of bikes on craigslist and realize some are salvaged and lower the price considerably. Should I stay away from salvaged bikes?
 
Posted by JohnCM (Member # 1076) on :
 
I think it's completely pointless to start out with a 250, you'll get rid of it so fast. 600 is definitely the way to go for a beginner bike. Good choice [patriot]
 
Posted by 96232 (Member # 9375) on :
 
I learned on a 90 cbr600 and had no problem with the bike being to fast...
 
Posted by Blind (Member # 3052) on :
 
buell's are damn near 50% off brand new at the dealers right now because the brand is dead, but harley is covering the warranty on them.
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
I think you should ride a smaller bike first...maybe you can borrow/rent a 250cc or 500cc, or even a dirtbike... just so you "feel" what riding is like. Better yet, take the MSF course and you'll get to ride there!

Once you get the braking and shifting down fairly well, you can then buy your 600cc bike and learn the bike.

heres how I started:
250cc Ninja > 500cc Ninja > 96 F3 > 00 ZX6R > 03 R6 > 03 600RR > 03 GSXR > 06 R6...still dont feel that I have "maxed out" the ability of a 600cc. [burnout]

[ October 22, 2009, 04:51 PM: Message edited by: SydeWaySix ]
 
Posted by 1991CHP (Member # 5097) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by essasin:
How did you narrow down your criteria?

You really have to get on a bike to feel which one is right for you. I started with a Ninja 250 and moved up to an F4i.

600c bikes except maybe a sv650 are are not beginner friendly. You could learn on one and many have but I'd take the safe route and put the ego aside and learn on a smaller bike. Even a 250 has enough power to kill you and put your balls in place. I wouldn't recommend an r6 or a gixxer, they are not forgiving at all.
I agree and listen to this guy. I used to race AFM and AMA. I'll let anyone know the same, if your already done with a 250, you ain't riding that bike the way your suposed to. I along with a lot of my frinds can take anyone on a 1000, 600 or 750 and lap them on a 250. Catch is, 250's look like crap, thats why you want a 600, 750.... Way better looking bike. I know a lot of bike companies are making more streemline looking 500's and what not.

Be safe.
 
Posted by Topete (Member # 4803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SydeWaySix:
I think you should ride a smaller bike first...maybe you can borrow/rent a 250cc or 500cc, or even a dirtbike... just so you "feel" what riding is like. Better yet, take the MSF course and you'll get to ride there!

Once you get the braking and shifting down fairly well, you can then buy your 600cc bike and learn the bike.

heres how I started:
250cc Ninja > 500cc Ninja > 96 F3 > 00 ZX6R > 03 R6 > 03 600RR > 03 GSXR > 06 R6...still dont feel that I have "maxed out" the ability of a 600cc. [burnout]
I already completed the MSF course so I'm not going into this blind..lol.
 
Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :
 
these days the 250s 500s etc are all startin to look like 600s..i started on a r1 and been fine even tho most think im still goin to kill myself...its all on how u RESPECT the bike..first day ur not aware or scared is when u go down..and bad thing is there is 2 type of riders...one that have fallen..and one who are goin to fall...


damn spoke to soon...RIP


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[ October 22, 2009, 05:09 PM: Message edited by: 89 FAKE SNAKE ]
 
Posted by NorCalRydaz (Member # 3233) on :
 
start on an older 600 or a new 250cc or 500cc. If you start on a 600 you will miss out on alot of good riding habbits because you will be thinking more about being cool. lol Shit i started on a new 600 and that shit hurt. [Wink]
 
Posted by SydeWaySix (Member # 3596) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NorCalRydaz:
start on an older 600 or a new 250cc or 500cc. If you start on a 600 you will miss out on alot of good riding habbits because you will be thinking more about being cool. lol Shit i started on a new 600 and that shit hurt. [Wink]
Yea, start on a $500 250cc or 500cc...you'll be wearing a helmet anyways so no females will make fun of you [Razz] Seriously though, you need to start low to get into good riding habits. ALso, if you fall, you wont be too concerned since the bike was just $500 [patriot]
 
Posted by 95GTConvtACE (Member # 6399) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Topete:


Also, I've been looking at a lot of bikes on craigslist and realize some are salvaged and lower the price considerably. Should I stay away from salvaged bikes?
Me personally, I wouldn't trust a salvaged bike. Even most used bikes might have been through wrecks and you wouldn't even know it. Most people who crash their bikes, don't report it unless it is in a major accident. Bikes are easy to fix up. Man, you should have bought the bike I just sold, what a deal. Good luck.
 
Posted by Topete (Member # 4803) on :
 
Thanks for replies....I'm still in research and advice mode so taking everything in heavy consideration.
 
Posted by Ty (Member # 4920) on :
 
honestly what i did was picked up an 80s shadow for cheap to just commute on and learn how to not kill myself. was a good and easy bike to ride. then when i got rid of that i picked up a 99 cbr 600 and havent had any issues at all. id suggest something a lil bit slower than a crotch rocket first just to error on the safe side
 
Posted by 1991CHP (Member # 5097) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ty:
honestly what i did was picked up an 80s shadow for cheap to just commute on and learn how to not kill myself. was a good and easy bike to ride. then when i got rid of that i picked up a 99 cbr 600 and havent had any issues at all. id suggest something a lil bit slower than a crotch rocket first just to error on the safe side
SWEET!!! 80's Shadow. [patriot] Now your talking.
 
Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
If you really want to learn how to ride. Pickup a 250-500cc.
 
Posted by Ty (Member # 4920) on :
 
hell yea that thing was actually kinda cool i turned it into a bobber and put dirtbike bars on it and cuz the exhaust
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
I wouldn't recommend a 250, you will get bored off it QUICK. It's like buying a honda civic at first.. Yeah you can learn how to ride but you will get bored in a short moment..

Get a 600 (r6, zx6r, gsxr etc), take time to know your bike and understand your bike.

Me personally never rode a bike before i got my R6, the day i bought it, i never rode a bike nor had my license.. I just bought it then started learning on it, then got my M1..

Went down twice but thats how i learned to respect the bike...

And like how above mentioned "go to the dealer and see what you feel comfortable on" and "there are two types of riders, ones that went down and ones that are going down"..
 
Posted by adower (Member # 5955) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AL STOCK:
I wouldn't recommend a 250, you will get bored off it QUICK. It's like buying a honda civic at first.. Yeah you can learn how to ride but you will get bored in a short moment..

Get a 600 (r6, zx6r, gsxr etc), take time to know your bike and understand your bike.

Me personally never rode a bike before i got my R6, the day i bought it, i never rode a bike nor had my license.. I just bought it then started learning on it, then got my M1..

Went down twice but thats how i learned to respect the bike...

And like how above mentioned "go to the dealer and see what you feel comfortable on" and "there are two types of riders, ones that went down and ones that are going down"..
You will only get bored of it because your not really "riding it". Head to a track day. The guys who know how to ride rip shit up on a 250CC. There is no way you can be bored on a 250cc if your really riding it.

Just being picky, but I hate that quote. You can use that for everything in life. Ive rode with guys that have 20+ yrs riding experience and have yet to go down.

[ October 22, 2009, 09:53 PM: Message edited by: adower ]
 
Posted by Stangs R Us (Member # 4495) on :
 
a 600 is fine to start with not to fast or to slow or to heavy , a honda cbr600rr is a great bike
 
Posted by SHOalex (Member # 7720) on :
 
How about one of these badboys?


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Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :
 
id mob tha..i lookin to get a zuma or ysr [worship] - -
 
Posted by 2Foxes2Five0Coupes (Member # 9154) on :
 
I started on a 93cbr 600 to learn. That lasted a couple month's then i got a 04 600. Can't go wrong with the newer 600's . Picked mines cause i thought it looked better than the others. Ride the 600 stock till you think you might want some more power then just mod it (full exhaust, k&n filter, map it) you'll be happy with that. Take your time on it learn the bike be safe!
 
Posted by 89 FAKE SNAKE (Member # 4531) on :
 
i jus curious why everyone gets a bike cuz looks? it doesnt help ANYONE ride better... [Confused]
 
Posted by Blue Oval (Member # 2548) on :
 
I have a 08 R6 special edition, im thinking of selling, low miles 1300 i believe, never dropped... looking to get $8500

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by adower:

Just being picky, but I hate that quote. You can use that for everything in life. Ive rode with guys that have 20+ yrs riding experience and have yet to go down. [/QB]
I find that truly hard to believe. I know riders who been riding for years and even their dads who use to ride. Some claim "i never went down" - Either they are bullshitting or NEVER ride (low mileage).

This will become a debate but some people never admit they went down to gain others respect, i dont know why?
 
Posted by aj5.0916 (Member # 7968) on :
 
i started on dirtbikes gettin ready to buy a r1 or gixer 1000 now i jus ride my boys 04 750 lol its fun bitches love bikes [Cool]
 
Posted by 1989lx5.0 (Member # 3699) on :
 
i got a 2002 zzr1200 for sale, very clean flawless bike, brand new rear tire, stainless brake lines, vey fast bike, 145rwhp, flawlessly maintained.
 
Posted by Topete (Member # 4803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 1989lx5.0:
i got a 2002 zzr1200 for sale, very clean flawless bike, brand new rear tire, stainless brake lines, vey fast bike, 145rwhp, flawlessly maintained.
That is out of my league.
 
Posted by Blue Oval (Member # 2548) on :
 
My 600 has 149 rwhp stock
 
Posted by Rio_97 (Member # 5460) on :
 
Topete PM sent
 
Posted by Topete (Member # 4803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blue Oval:
My 600 has 149 rwhp stock
I was thinking more in terms of weight.
 
Posted by 1989lx5.0 (Member # 3699) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Blue Oval:
My 600 has 149 rwhp stock
that must be one hell of a 600 LOL
 
Posted by 90gtvert (Member # 8697) on :
 
Ge a ZX14R and be done with it.

Your only as safe as your right hand.

250, 600, 1000, 1400 are all the same. If you feel you are not a safe person get a 250. If you have self control get something bigger. You will outgrow the 250 and 600.

Mike
 
Posted by ratfast (Member # 8720) on :
 
After years of riding dirt bikes, 80, 125, 200, and 500 cc 2 and 4 strokes I got a 92zx7 that had been laid down. I didn't fix the plastic at first , just in case I dropped it. After I put some miles on it, I fixed it, sold it, and bought a used 95 zx7. After a couple years of riding that I sold it and bought a new 2001 R1. My wife learned how to ride on my R1 and then bought a 2002 R6. I love riding either bike, as they both have plenty of power to get down the road. I would rec. a motorcycle safety course to anyone getting a bike, and definately recommend a track day or two to hone your skills. I even enjoy taking mine to the dragstrip. Buy a bike that fits you, ride like noone sees you, and have fun.
 
Posted by Topete (Member # 4803) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ratfast:
After years of riding dirt bikes, 80, 125, 200, and 500 cc 2 and 4 strokes I got a 92zx7 that had been laid down. I didn't fix the plastic at first , just in case I dropped it. After I put some miles on it, I fixed it, sold it, and bought a used 95 zx7. After a couple years of riding that I sold it and bought a new 2001 R1. My wife learned how to ride on my R1 and then bought a 2002 R6. I love riding either bike, as they both have plenty of power to get down the road. I would rec. a motorcycle safety course to anyone getting a bike, and definately recommend a track day or two to hone your skills. I even enjoy taking mine to the dragstrip. Buy a bike that fits you, ride like noone sees you, and have fun.
Solid advice..thanks. And I did complete the rider course so I'm ready!!!
 
Posted by Termin8Him (Member # 7895) on :
 
I started off on a gxsr 600... It's all about respecting the bike and controlling yourself.. No matter what, there are two types of riders. Riders who have fallen and riders that are gonna fall... I have a daytona 675 and I love the it!
 




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