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Posted by 9cobra7 (Member # 2812) on :
 
WONDER CALIFORNIA IS BROKE!!!


This English teacher has phrased it the best I've seen yet....
(From a California school teacher) - - -
"As you listen to the news about the student protests over illegal immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of:
I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a large southern California high school which is designated a Title 1 school, meaning that its students average lower socioeconomic and income levels.
Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell Gardens , Huntington Park , etc., where
these students are protesting, are also Title 1 schools.
Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch program. When I say free breakfast, I'm not talking a glass of milk and roll -- but a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would make a Marriott proud. The waste of this food is monumental, with trays and trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten. ( OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK )
I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least moderately overweight. About 75% or more DO have cell phones.. The school also provides daycare centers for the unwed teenage pregnant girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the inconvenience of having to arrange for babysitters or having family watch their kids. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or risk losing funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for anything; my budget was already substantial. I ended up buying new computers for the computer learning center, half of which, one month later, have been carved with graffiti by the appreciative students who obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in America ..
(OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)
I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students here in the country less than 3 months who raised so much hell with the female teachers, calling them "Putas" whores and throwing things that the teachers were in tears.
Free medical, free education, free food, day care etc., etc, etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this country but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements ?
To those who want to point out how much the se illegal immigrants contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time in the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs .
Higher insurance, medical facilities closing , higher medical costs, more crime, lower standards of education in our schools,overcrowding, new diseases etc., etc, etc ...For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes.
We need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a disaster because we won't have the guts to enforce it. Does anyone in their right mind really think they will voluntarily leave and return?
It does, however, have everything to do with culture: A third-world culture that does not value education , that accepts children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and that refuses
to assimilate , and an American culture that has become<= SPAN class=EC_ecececapple-converted-space> so weak and worried about " politically correctness " that we don't have the will to do anything about it.
If this makes your blood boil , as it did mine, forward this to everyone you know.

CHEAP LABOR? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?
Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage.
Consumers don't want expensive produce.
Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs.
But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase "cheap labor" is a myth, a farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as "cheap labor."
Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He takes a job for $5.00 or 6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents,he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income Tax Return, he gets an "earned income credit" of up to $3,200 free.
He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent.
He qualifies for food stamps.
He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care.
His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school.
He requires bilingual teachers and books.
He qualifies for relief from high energy bills.
If they are or become, aged, blind or disabled, they qualify for SSI. Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare. All of this is at (our) taxpayer's expense.
He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance.
Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed material.
He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in benefits.
Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after paying their bills.
The American taxpayers also pay for increased crime, graffiti and trash clean-up.
Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT!
Wake up people!

THIS HAS GOT TO BE PASSED ALONG TO AS MANY AS POSSIBLE OR WE WILL ALL GO DOWN THE DRAIN BECAUSE A FEW DON'T CARE.
[Mad]
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
Bet ya'll saw me reply, and thought "Aaawwww shit, I am gonna get the popcorn ready"... Well surprise I am going to STFU on this one and let FR and the others have at it.
[patriot]
 
Posted by 89 306 (Member # 9042) on :
 
maybe if the white man got up his ass and cut his own grass and made his lazy toothpick lookin wife to clean their own house maybe we wouldnt have this issue..
instead of always calling some one to do he work for you whites do the shit ur self and keep the us from such a big issue!!
[BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [Mad]

[ July 08, 2009, 04:10 PM: Message edited by: 89 306 ]
 
Posted by 23109 (Member # 4347) on :
 
[patriot] that teacher is speaks the truth
 
Posted by cees87drop (Member # 4066) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 89 306:
maybe if the white man got up his ass and cut his own grass and made his lazy toothpick lookin wife to clean their own house maybe we wouldnt have this issue..
instead of always calling some one to do he work for you whites do the shit ur self and keep the us from such a big issue!!
[BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [Mad]

Lol..
 
Posted by Blind (Member # 3052) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 89 306:
maybe if the white man got up his ass and cut his own grass and made his lazy toothpick lookin wife to clean their own house maybe we wouldnt have this issue..
instead of always calling some one to do he work for you whites do the shit ur self and keep the us from such a big issue!!
[BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [Mad]

so angry [Whoo Whooooo!]
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 89 306:
maybe if the white man got up his ass and cut his own grass and made his lazy toothpick lookin wife to clean their own house maybe we wouldnt have this issue..
instead of always calling some one to do he work for you whites do the shit ur self and keep the us from such a big issue!!
[BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [Mad]

So now you are going to make a fuckin negative generalization about another race?

Did you not see the ignorance in this fuckin post?

Public forum and all but I would hope you never need shit from me dude......

you fuckin brain child............ [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by 91silverbullet (Member # 8668) on :
 
So fukn ignorant is crazy..I was in ilegal my parents were ilegal..my dad is construction worker and will put to shame any foreman from any construction company trust me and does the work for less than any big company..so where do you get off saying that we come from 3rd world countries that don't value education.. I came here learned english in less than a year..put to shame any kid in my class in math and I could read and write better than most people that where born here...learned about cars from books..and I could school most wyotech or uti graduates..my parents ain't never evaded taxes , never took any government help . Such as welfare and all that other bs...bro go and do some real life research and stop listening to a bunch og HICKS .that have nothng better to do than just to find reasons why to descriminate aginst the next man..and don't forget who put this country where is at right now...a white man..
 
Posted by CALIFORNIAGT (Member # 7845) on :
 
jut be thankful u have a job! wize old man once told me " at the end of the day if you cant injoy a cold beer your doing something wrong"

i think this should be posted in every starbucks window!!!!
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 89 306:
maybe if the white man got up his ass and cut his own grass and made his lazy toothpick lookin wife to clean their own house maybe we wouldnt have this issue..
instead of always calling some one to do he work for you whites do the shit ur self and keep the us from such a big issue!!
[BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [Mad]

That almost made me spit soda on my keyboard....lmao

Please 302Drop, 93exCHP, 90Fox, Alstock, please come in and whore this thread up. This thread will go no where fast.

[ July 08, 2009, 04:36 PM: Message edited by: N8 ]
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by 89 306:
maybe if the white man got up his ass and cut his own grass and made his lazy toothpick lookin wife to clean their own house maybe we wouldnt have this issue..
instead of always calling some one to do he work for you whites do the shit ur self and keep the us from such a big issue!!
[BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [Mad]

That almost made me spit soda on my keyboard....lmao

Please 302Drop, 93exCHP, 90Fox, Alstock, please come in and whore this thread up. This thread will go no where fast.

I am sorry N8 but please elaborate as to why that would have made you spit soda (suprised you drink soda, you seem to be pretty health concious from your postings) on your keyboard?

Please tell me it was due to the fact that his post was OBSURD!
 
Posted by 91silverbullet (Member # 8668) on :
 
Worry more about the fucks that are born here , and have abosolutely no barrier to get a job or go to school..but still at home living of welfare and food stamps..and it ain't a race thing cause I'm preety sure I've seen whites , blacks . Brown , orange , and. Purple in the welfare line..
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
Worry more about the fucks that are born here , and have abosolutely no barrier to get a job or go to school..but still at home living of welfare and food stamps..and it ain't a race thing cause I'm preety sure I've seen whites , blacks . Brown , orange , and. Purple in the welfare line..

I don't give a shit if someone is neon pink as long as they are trying.

Welfare is supposed to be a support system to help those that need help get on their feet.

Something went wrong, somewhere.
 
Posted by GOT 50 (Member # 1960) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
So fukn ignorant is crazy..I was in ilegal my parents were ilegal..my dad is construction worker and will put to shame any foreman from any construction company trust me and does the work for less than any big company..so where do you get off saying that we come from 3rd world countries that don't value education.. I came here learned english in less than a year..put to shame any kid in my class in math and I could read and write better than most people that where born here...learned about cars from books..and I could school most wyotech or uti graduates..my parents ain't never evaded taxes , never took any government help . Such as welfare and all that other bs...bro go and do some real life research and stop listening to a bunch og HICKS .that have nothng better to do than just to find reasons why to descriminate aginst the next man..and don't forget who put this country where is at right now...a white man..

So; you and your parents are illegals and or were illegals. How many years did they/you work in this country and not pay a dime of taxes S.S.? How I feel proud to say that I paid for your education. Seeing as your parents probably were not legalized by the time of you started going to school.

But to each there own. Hopefully you all have green cards/been legalized and pay your fair share of taxes. Hell maybe if you are upstanding citizens you will payback for all the back taxes and services you used and didnt contribute to.

I am GLAD to BE an AMERICAN! [patriot]
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by 89 306:
maybe if the white man got up his ass and cut his own grass and made his lazy toothpick lookin wife to clean their own house maybe we wouldnt have this issue..
instead of always calling some one to do he work for you whites do the shit ur self and keep the us from such a big issue!!
[BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [Mad]

That almost made me spit soda on my keyboard....lmao

Please 302Drop, 93exCHP, 90Fox, Alstock, please come in and whore this thread up. This thread will go no where fast.

I am sorry N8 but please elaborate as to why that would have made you spit soda (suprised you drink soda, you seem to be pretty health concious from your postings) on your keyboard?

Please tell me it was due to the fact that his post was OBSURD!

nothing to elaborate on, it was unexpected and a funny ass statement. Oh and it was a diet soda, so please keep the healthy image of a brotha.
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 89 306:
maybe if the white man got up his ass and cut his own grass and made his lazy toothpick lookin wife to clean their own house maybe we wouldnt have this issue..
instead of always calling some one to do he work for you whites do the shit ur self and keep the us from such a big issue!!
[BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [Mad]

another of the well educated CA ford people giving there input [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes]

The damm White people have to work to many hours to help pay for welfare!!!!They do not have time for that shit. look how bad the illegals would suffer if they( I am going to change this to legals because I know to many hard working black and hispanic people that pay taxes also) made less money they might lose ther food stamps and free health care. That would be cruel. Who the fuck do you think pumps the money into the welfare system.....The working class legal Americans.

The teacher hit the nail right on the head.

[ July 08, 2009, 06:37 PM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
 
Posted by 91silverbullet (Member # 8668) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GOT 50:
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
So fukn ignorant is crazy..I was in ilegal my parents were ilegal..my dad is construction worker and will put to shame any foreman from any construction company trust me and does the work for less than any big company..so where do you get off saying that we come from 3rd world countries that don't value education.. I came here learned english in less than a year..put to shame any kid in my class in math and I could read and write better than most people that where born here...learned about cars from books..and I could school most wyotech or uti graduates..my parents ain't never evaded taxes , never took any government help . Such as welfare and all that other bs...bro go and do some real life research and stop listening to a bunch og HICKS .that have nothng better to do than just to find reasons why to descriminate aginst the next man..and don't forget who put this country where is at right now...a white man..

So; you and your parents are illegals and or were illegals. How many years did they/you work in this country and not pay a dime of taxes S.S.? How I feel proud to say that I paid for your education. Seeing as your parents probably were not legalized by the time of you started going to school.

But to each there own. Hopefully you all have green cards/been legalized and pay your fair share of taxes. Hell maybe if you are upstanding citizens you will payback for all the back taxes and services you used and didnt contribute to.

I am GLAD to BE an AMERICAN! [patriot]

Dam another idiot...first of all you didn't pay for shit of mine... and yeah we all have green cards and are all good..we beeen here for 11 years and my dad has paid taxes for 11 I'm 20 years old been working for 3 and paid my taxes all 3 .and like I said before we never used any fuckn service cause that's not what hard working people do...so go take your ignorant ass somewher else...
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
So fukn ignorant is crazy..I was in ilegal my parents were ilegal..my dad is construction worker and will put to shame any foreman from any construction company trust me and does the work for less than any big company..so where do you get off saying that we come from 3rd world countries that don't value education.. I came here learned english in less than a year..put to shame any kid in my class in math and I could read and write better than most people that where born here...learned about cars from books..and I could school most wyotech or uti graduates..my parents ain't never evaded taxes , never took any government help . Such as welfare and all that other bs...bro go and do some real life research and stop listening to a bunch og HICKS .that have nothng better to do than just to find reasons why to descriminate aginst the next man..and don't forget who put this country where is at right now...a white man..

Another CA ford political expert lol. wtf didn't your parents become legal? or did they? A white man put this country were it is today? You need to go back to school and learn how politics works before you post stupid shit like that. You probably went to high school in the same type of school the teacher wrote about.
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by 89 306:
maybe if the white man got up his ass and cut his own grass and made his lazy toothpick lookin wife to clean their own house maybe we wouldnt have this issue..
instead of always calling some one to do he work for you whites do the shit ur self and keep the us from such a big issue!!
[BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [Mad]

That almost made me spit soda on my keyboard....lmao

Please 302Drop, 93exCHP, 90Fox, Alstock, please come in and whore this thread up. This thread will go no where fast.

I am sorry N8 but please elaborate as to why that would have made you spit soda (suprised you drink soda, you seem to be pretty health concious from your postings) on your keyboard?

Please tell me it was due to the fact that his post was OBSURD!

nothing to elaborate on, it was unexpected and a funny ass statement. Oh and it was a diet soda, so please keep the healthy image of a brotha.
I dont find one iota of humor in that statement and I would hope that you don't share this moron's views about the "white" man, if you do then I would hope you never need shit from me, either.

Lot's of fucks on here sharing their negative views of the "black" man and I am not finding any humor in that.....

I'm done on this post. Got me too fuckin pissed.
 
Posted by scoop510 (Member # 8726) on :
 
its funny how people bash on immigrants coming to America, yea its not right that they are not paying taxes but alot of them are trying to do better for them and their family, like how we would do for ours. but we gotta remember we all started from some ware and sure as hell wasn't HERE unless your a native. im pretty fucking sure that i would catch most people on here picking fruit under the hot ass sun for $5. we can just blame the immigrants but also the business owners who are paying because at the end of the day who's decision is to hire and pay them? [patriot]
 
Posted by 86redGT (Member # 6961) on :
 
Welfare was a support system set up in depression era America so that large families would not starve when times got rough. At its peak in the 1930's there was about 1 person receiving welfare for ever 150 ish working men. Today the ratio is about 1 in 4.

The welfare system never changed to suit the times, it was never meant to support people for a long amount of time. Only to help people along until they could get a good job and pay their own bills.

A new system needs to be set up so the government is not paying for all of these peoples living expenses. However i have no idea what that may be.
 
Posted by 91silverbullet (Member # 8668) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
So fukn ignorant is crazy..I was in ilegal my parents were ilegal..my dad is construction worker and will put to shame any foreman from any construction company trust me and does the work for less than any big company..so where do you get off saying that we come from 3rd world countries that don't value education.. I came here learned english in less than a year..put to shame any kid in my class in math and I could read and write better than most people that where born here...learned about cars from books..and I could school most wyotech or uti graduates..my parents ain't never evaded taxes , never took any government help . Such as welfare and all that other bs...bro go and do some real life research and stop listening to a bunch og HICKS .that have nothng better to do than just to find reasons why to descriminate aginst the next man..and don't forget who put this country where is at right now...a white man..

Another CA ford political expert lol. wtf didn't your parents become legal? or did they? A white man put this country were it is today? You need to go back to school and learn how politics works before you post stupid shit like that. You probably went to high school in the same type of school the teacher wrote about.
Dam bro..no I ain't no political expert..but I speak of experience unlike you who just hops on the bandwagon..and cmon you cant honestly say a white men put this country where its at ...is we the poeple that live in this country that put it where its at...and your just another racist fuck if u agree with this bullshit post..
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
quote:
Originally posted by 89 306:
maybe if the white man got up his ass and cut his own grass and made his lazy toothpick lookin wife to clean their own house maybe we wouldnt have this issue..
instead of always calling some one to do he work for you whites do the shit ur self and keep the us from such a big issue!!
[BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [Mad]

That almost made me spit soda on my keyboard....lmao

Please 302Drop, 93exCHP, 90Fox, Alstock, please come in and whore this thread up. This thread will go no where fast.

I am sorry N8 but please elaborate as to why that would have made you spit soda (suprised you drink soda, you seem to be pretty health concious from your postings) on your keyboard?

Please tell me it was due to the fact that his post was OBSURD!

nothing to elaborate on, it was unexpected and a funny ass statement. Oh and it was a diet soda, so please keep the healthy image of a brotha.
I dont find one iota of humor in that statement and I would hope that you don't share this moron's views about the "white" man, if you do then I would hope you never need shit from me, either.

Lot's of fucks on here sharing their negative views of the "black" man and I am not finding any humor in that.....

I'm done on this post. Got me too fuckin pissed.

Aint this about a *%4^*. Someone makes a generalizing statement about a white male and you guys get hurt? But everyday all day people can make jokes about blacks or people in desperate means and you guys don't say shit?

And ya'll know damn well that if I felt like that it would have come out long ago, as I dont bite my tongue for nobody. but damn, such a strong reaction this statement but you guys sit let others be generalized all day long. And laugh at another sectors expense all day long. I say if you cant sit back and laugh at yourself sometimes then you for damn sure shouldnt be laughing at others.

And Dan, I am pretty sure you are a straight up cat and I cant recall you actually ever making a disparaging remark. But I also have never heard you stand up against others making a remark until now. But to answer your question "no I do not"

[ July 08, 2009, 05:43 PM: Message edited by: N8 ]
 
Posted by 86redGT (Member # 6961) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
So fukn ignorant is crazy..I was in ilegal my parents were ilegal..my dad is construction worker and will put to shame any foreman from any construction company trust me and does the work for less than any big company..so where do you get off saying that we come from 3rd world countries that don't value education.. I came here learned english in less than a year..put to shame any kid in my class in math and I could read and write better than most people that where born here...learned about cars from books..and I could school most wyotech or uti graduates..my parents ain't never evaded taxes , never took any government help . Such as welfare and all that other bs...bro go and do some real life research and stop listening to a bunch og HICKS .that have nothng better to do than just to find reasons why to descriminate aginst the next man..and don't forget who put this country where is at right now...a white man..

Another CA ford political expert lol. wtf didn't your parents become legal? or did they? A white man put this country were it is today? You need to go back to school and learn how politics works before you post stupid shit like that. You probably went to high school in the same type of school the teacher wrote about.
Dam bro..no I ain't no political expert..but I speak of experience unlike you who just hops on the bandwagon..and cmon you cant honestly say a white men put this country where its at ...is we the poeple that live in this country that put it where its at...and your just another racist fuck if u agree with this bullshit post..
To a certain extent i do agree with this post. I went to one of those section 1 schools. While i would agree that the 1st generation immigrants were hard working and trying to build a better life for their families. I would often see the second generation falling flat on their faces.

The school population was about 60% Hispanic. When i was a freshman we started with a class of around 600. My senior year we graduated 380, 20% of them Hispanic. This is not aimed as a call out at the Hispanic population, rather just my observations.

Also much of the school was vandalized at random intervals, but this was from EVERYONE in the student body, and not any one ethnic group.

I still found it appalling to see kids with cell phones and brand new clothes on the assisted lunch program, when i was wearing hand me downs, and wasn't allowed to get a cell phone until i was a senior.

With the bind that all the schools are in for money, and the massive budget cut that California is in, i think they should cut off ALL assisted lunch programs. Right now parents at my old school are up in arms because they decided to cut the budget for ALL SCHOOL SPORTS instead of the budgets for assisted lunches.
 
Posted by slow96cobra (Member # 6001) on :
 
i hate seeing my paycheck and seeing that i paid close to $600 in taxes.
 
Posted by GOT 50 (Member # 1960) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
quote:
Originally posted by GOT 50:
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
So fukn ignorant is crazy..I was in ilegal my parents were ilegal..my dad is construction worker and will put to shame any foreman from any construction company trust me and does the work for less than any big company..so where do you get off saying that we come from 3rd world countries that don't value education.. I came here learned english in less than a year..put to shame any kid in my class in math and I could read and write better than most people that where born here...learned about cars from books..and I could school most wyotech or uti graduates..my parents ain't never evaded taxes , never took any government help . Such as welfare and all that other bs...bro go and do some real life research and stop listening to a bunch og HICKS .that have nothng better to do than just to find reasons why to descriminate aginst the next man..and don't forget who put this country where is at right now...a white man..

So; you and your parents are illegals and or were illegals. How many years did they/you work in this country and not pay a dime of taxes S.S.? How I feel proud to say that I paid for your education. Seeing as your parents probably were not legalized by the time of you started going to school.

But to each there own. Hopefully you all have green cards/been legalized and pay your fair share of taxes. Hell maybe if you are upstanding citizens you will payback for all the back taxes and services you used and didnt contribute to.

I am GLAD to BE an AMERICAN! [patriot]

Dam another idiot...first of all you didn't pay for shit of mine... and yeah we all have green cards and are all good..we beeen here for 11 years and my dad has paid taxes for 11 I'm 20 years old been working for 3 and paid my taxes all 3 .and like I said before we never used any fuckn service cause that's not what hard working people do...so go take your ignorant ass somewher else...
Impresive,

Dads has been here 11 years and paid taxes for 11 years. That jsut does not seem to add up. Must be that ethnic way of calculating math.

Maybe he was here on a work VISA, which would not have made him illegal per see yet. So was he here legally with a work permit and got nationalized?

Check your facts. Maybe he was paying taxes under someone elses social security number? Then you would be right.

P.S. I am 50% mexican. My grnadparents came here legaly "the right way"

"PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN" [patriot]
 
Posted by 23109 (Member # 4347) on :
 
okay this post was to show where california is spending the money it dont have. 9cobra7 is correct when he states this is one major cause of californias money issues. also white people didnt make this country the way it is today. think about all the black, hispanic, asian, middle eastern, native american, ect people that died for this country. we all made this a great nation. and when i see those black, hispanic, asian, middle eastern people i dont think of them as a RACE i see them as AMERICANS.

ALSO on a side note about race. i dont see black people as AFRICAN AMERICANS i just see AMERICANS. this is a great time in history and there is no time to have a racial devide. [patriot]
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 23109:
okay this post was to show where california is spending the money it dont have. 9cobra7 is correct when he states this is one major cause of californias money issues. also white people didnt make this country the way it is today. think about all the black, hispanic, asian, middle eastern, native american, ect people that died for this country. we all made this a great nation. and when i see those black, hispanic, asian, middle eastern people i dont think of them as a RACE i see them as AMERICANS.

ALSO on a side note about race. i dont see black people as AFRICAN AMERICANS i just see AMERICANS. this is a great time in history and there is no time to have a racial devide. [patriot]

+7856,
it is always easy to point the finger at other sectors for issues and problems.
 
Posted by GOT 50 (Member # 1960) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 23109:
ALSO on a side note about race. i dont see black people as AFRICAN AMERICANS i just see AMERICANS. this is a great time in history and there is no time to have a racial devide. [patriot]

[worship]

I could not agree more.

I am an American. Plane and simple. [patriot]
 
Posted by 9cobra7 (Member # 2812) on :
 
People wanted to talk about MJ's funeral cost and I wanted to post something that happens all year long, year after year. Mj's funeral was a one day event. This is just one of many ways we waste money and wanted to point it out. I'm on my way up to the San Francisco to mingle with a lot of different type of Americans (races) which should be fun. This just goes to show you how deep peoples feelings really are and how hidden our explosive nature is. Look at what you guys are saying to each other and many different opinions we have here, this is really something.
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 9cobra7:
People wanted to talk about MJ's funeral cost and I wanted to post something that happens all year long, year after year. Mj's funeral was a one day event. This is just one of many ways we waste money and wanted to point it out. I'm on my way up to the San Francisco to mingle with a lot of different type of Americans (races) which should be fun. This just goes to show you how deep peoples feelings really are and how hidden our explosive nature is. Look at what you guys are saying to each other and many different opinions we have here, this is really something.

all I did was laugh at a comment, then somehow I got pulled into this void...lol.

But just to let ya'll know. I treat everyone like I want to be treated despite color, religion or beliefs and that is with respect. And I am far from racist, I run my own business and I am the only black person working here...lol.
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
So fukn ignorant is crazy..I was in ilegal my parents were ilegal..my dad is construction worker and will put to shame any foreman from any construction company trust me and does the work for less than any big company..so where do you get off saying that we come from 3rd world countries that don't value education.. I came here learned english in less than a year..put to shame any kid in my class in math and I could read and write better than most people that where born here...learned about cars from books..and I could school most wyotech or uti graduates..my parents ain't never evaded taxes , never took any government help . Such as welfare and all that other bs...bro go and do some real life research and stop listening to a bunch og HICKS .that have nothng better to do than just to find reasons why to descriminate aginst the next man..and don't forget who put this country where is at right now...a white man..

Another CA ford political expert lol. wtf didn't your parents become legal? or did they? A white man put this country were it is today? You need to go back to school and learn how politics works before you post stupid shit like that. You probably went to high school in the same type of school the teacher wrote about.
Dam bro..no I ain't no political expert..but I speak of experience unlike you who just hops on the bandwagon..and cmon you cant honestly say a white men put this country where its at ...is we the poeple that live in this country that put it where its at...and your just another racist fuck if u agree with this bullshit post..
ahhh you said in your last sentence a white man put the country were it is at today [Confused] . lol I didn't. Are you quoting your self calling yourself racist?
 
Posted by Eddie510- (Member # 2354) on :
 
I am Mexican my damn self And i STAND up for this post! parents were born n mexico crossed here illigaly but love this country and got there citizen ship in 1992 and made a good living. Even my father says they Have to earn it like he did, put somthing on the table , learn the culture of here, learn the language,read it, speak it,for god sakes be somebody . You dont know how much it pisses me off when i here "Im just going to come here , save some money and go back to my country"???? WTF!? gtfo with that mierda! I support the system but HOLY shit there taking advantage like no other! It got me pissed off when i seen this post . They need to make it HARDER to get any type of help from the system! hell i dont have benifits from my job yet but u dont see me going to get free care. Hell i just payed 4 grand for some dental, FUCK THESE people who want to take advantage!
[Mad] Dont like what im saying? Good, go lick pussy.

[ July 08, 2009, 06:57 PM: Message edited by: Eddie510- ]
 
Posted by 91silverbullet (Member # 8668) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GOT 50:
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
quote:
Originally posted by GOT 50:
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
So fukn ignorant is crazy..I was in ilegal my parents were ilegal..my dad is construction worker and will put to shame any foreman from any construction company trust me and does the work for less than any big company..so where do you get off saying that we come from 3rd world countries that don't value education.. I came here learned english in less than a year..put to shame any kid in my class in math and I could read and write better than most people that where born here...learned about cars from books..and I could school most wyotech or uti graduates..my parents ain't never evaded taxes , never took any government help . Such as welfare and all that other bs...bro go and do some real life research and stop listening to a bunch og HICKS .that have nothng better to do than just to find reasons why to descriminate aginst the next man..and don't forget who put this country where is at right now...a white man..

So; you and your parents are illegals and or were illegals. How many years did they/you work in this country and not pay a dime of taxes S.S.? How I feel proud to say that I paid for your education. Seeing as your parents probably were not legalized by the time of you started going to school.

But to each there own. Hopefully you all have green cards/been legalized and pay your fair share of taxes. Hell maybe if you are upstanding citizens you will payback for all the back taxes and services you used and didnt contribute to.

I am GLAD to BE an AMERICAN! [patriot]

Dam another idiot...first of all you didn't pay for shit of mine... and yeah we all have green cards and are all good..we beeen here for 11 years and my dad has paid taxes for 11 I'm 20 years old been working for 3 and paid my taxes all 3 .and like I said before we never used any fuckn service cause that's not what hard working people do...so go take your ignorant ass somewher else...
Impresive,

Dads has been here 11 years and paid taxes for 11 years. That jsut does not seem to add up. Must be that ethnic way of calculating math.

Maybe he was here on a work VISA, which would not have made him illegal per see yet. So was he here legally with a work permit and got nationalized?

Check your facts. Maybe he was paying taxes under someone elses social security number? Then you would be right.

P.S. I am 50% mexican. My grnadparents came here legaly "the right way"

"PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN" [patriot]

so did we bro im chilean so theres no way i can come here illegally..so watch your fuckin mouth before you start putting people down ...im done with this internet arguing ..best believe if it was in person this shit would have ended ugly..
 
Posted by GOT 50 (Member # 1960) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
quote:
Originally posted by GOT 50:
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
quote:
Originally posted by GOT 50:
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
So fukn ignorant is crazy..I was in ilegal my parents were ilegal..my dad is construction worker and will put to shame any foreman from any construction company trust me and does the work for less than any big company..so where do you get off saying that we come from 3rd world countries that don't value education.. I came here learned english in less than a year..put to shame any kid in my class in math and I could read and write better than most people that where born here...learned about cars from books..and I could school most wyotech or uti graduates..my parents ain't never evaded taxes , never took any government help . Such as welfare and all that other bs...bro go and do some real life research and stop listening to a bunch og HICKS .that have nothng better to do than just to find reasons why to descriminate aginst the next man..and don't forget who put this country where is at right now...a white man..

So; you and your parents are illegals and or were illegals. How many years did they/you work in this country and not pay a dime of taxes S.S.? How I feel proud to say that I paid for your education. Seeing as your parents probably were not legalized by the time of you started going to school.

But to each there own. Hopefully you all have green cards/been legalized and pay your fair share of taxes. Hell maybe if you are upstanding citizens you will payback for all the back taxes and services you used and didnt contribute to.

I am GLAD to BE an AMERICAN! [patriot]

Dam another idiot...first of all you didn't pay for shit of mine... and yeah we all have green cards and are all good..we beeen here for 11 years and my dad has paid taxes for 11 I'm 20 years old been working for 3 and paid my taxes all 3 .and like I said before we never used any fuckn service cause that's not what hard working people do...so go take your ignorant ass somewher else...
Impresive,

Dads has been here 11 years and paid taxes for 11 years. That jsut does not seem to add up. Must be that ethnic way of calculating math.

Maybe he was here on a work VISA, which would not have made him illegal per see yet. So was he here legally with a work permit and got nationalized?

Check your facts. Maybe he was paying taxes under someone elses social security number? Then you would be right.

P.S. I am 50% mexican. My grnadparents came here legaly "the right way"

"PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN" [patriot]

so did we bro im chilean so theres no way i can come here illegally..so watch your fuckin mouth before you start putting people down ...im done with this internet arguing ..best believe if it was in person this shit would have ended ugly..
you seem to contradict yourself in every other post. First you stated you came here illegally with your parents. And now you are chilian and there is no way you could come here illegally? Maybe you agree with me and jsut dont understand what you are trying to say.

Say it with me

I AM PROUD TO BE AMERICAN! [patriot]
 
Posted by 91silverbullet (Member # 8668) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by GOT 50:
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
quote:
Originally posted by GOT 50:
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
quote:
Originally posted by GOT 50:
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
So fukn ignorant is crazy..I was in ilegal my parents were ilegal..my dad is construction worker and will put to shame any foreman from any construction company trust me and does the work for less than any big company..so where do you get off saying that we come from 3rd world countries that don't value education.. I came here learned english in less than a year..put to shame any kid in my class in math and I could read and write better than most people that where born here...learned about cars from books..and I could school most wyotech or uti graduates..my parents ain't never evaded taxes , never took any government help . Such as welfare and all that other bs...bro go and do some real life research and stop listening to a bunch og HICKS .that have nothng better to do than just to find reasons why to descriminate aginst the next man..and don't forget who put this country where is at right now...a white man..

So; you and your parents are illegals and or were illegals. How many years did they/you work in this country and not pay a dime of taxes S.S.? How I feel proud to say that I paid for your education. Seeing as your parents probably were not legalized by the time of you started going to school.

But to each there own. Hopefully you all have green cards/been legalized and pay your fair share of taxes. Hell maybe if you are upstanding citizens you will payback for all the back taxes and services you used and didnt contribute to.

I am GLAD to BE an AMERICAN! [patriot]

Dam another idiot...first of all you didn't pay for shit of mine... and yeah we all have green cards and are all good..we beeen here for 11 years and my dad has paid taxes for 11 I'm 20 years old been working for 3 and paid my taxes all 3 .and like I said before we never used any fuckn service cause that's not what hard working people do...so go take your ignorant ass somewher else...
Impresive,

Dads has been here 11 years and paid taxes for 11 years. That jsut does not seem to add up. Must be that ethnic way of calculating math.

Maybe he was here on a work VISA, which would not have made him illegal per see yet. So was he here legally with a work permit and got nationalized?

Check your facts. Maybe he was paying taxes under someone elses social security number? Then you would be right.

P.S. I am 50% mexican. My grnadparents came here legaly "the right way"

"PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN" [patriot]

so did we bro im chilean so theres no way i can come here illegally..so watch your fuckin mouth before you start putting people down ...im done with this internet arguing ..best believe if it was in person this shit would have ended ugly..
you seem to contradict yourself in every other post. First you stated you came here illegally with your parents. And now you are chilian and there is no way you could come here illegally? Maybe you agree with me and jsut dont understand what you are trying to say.

Say it with me

I AM PROUD TO BE AMERICAN! [patriot]

bro anyone that wasnt born here is here illegally i came here legally but became an illegal after that.. now im a citizen ..and my dad paid taxes every single year we been here because since this country is not gonna turn down money it is not required to have a ssn to pay taxes..check your facts before you start running your mouth big shot..im glad your proud to be an american..im glad to have had parents that made me proud of where i came from..and not to let little arrogant "americans" make me feel bad cause i wasnt born with a silver spoon in my mouth and had everything easy..we work to get where we are now. !PROUD TO HAVE BEEN AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT! [patriot]
 
Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
1) Illegals should be denied medical care regardless of the situation. Your ass shouldn't FUCKING BE HERE IN THE FIRST GODDAMN PLACE!!! Giving them medical care for free just makes them more likely to return or more likely for new illegals to come here. [Mad]

"oh what hella good medical care for free? yea I'm going there legally or ILLEGALLY!!"

2) Illegals should not be allowed to use our tax dollars to give birth to children who then become citizens. Then the parents use their kids citizenship to become citizens themselves. The law should change and apply to only those children who are born here with parents who have come to the U.S legally. [Mad]

3) Illegal's kids should not be allowed to attend our schools NO MATTER WHAT!!!! [Mad]

4) We should invest significantly to prevent illegals from entering the country, this is more a terrorism issue than people just coming here to work and better their life etc. [Mad]

5) Don't give me no bullshit about illegals doing work cheap. The jobs they do pay hella low wages. If they weren't here doing the jobs at low wages employers would either a) pay higher wages to legal citizens who contribute to taxes etc or b) go out of business and allow those who are able to afford running a business in that industry to take over. Yes the prices for shit we pay would increase in numerous areas but I don't give a damn. I rather pay more for goods than have the govt steal my hard earned money and use it to teach ILLEGAL FUCKING KIDS IN OUR SCHOOLS(who by the way make classrooms that much more larger hurting OUR kids education), pay FOR ILLEGALS MEDICAL EXPENSES etc... [Mad]

PERIOD [Mad]

[ July 08, 2009, 07:56 PM: Message edited by: 90FoX ]
 
Posted by NavidR (Member # 3164) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by scoop510:
its funny how people bash on immigrants coming to America, yea its not right that they are not paying taxes but alot of them are trying to do better for them and their family, like how we would do for ours. but we gotta remember we all started from some ware and sure as hell wasn't HERE unless your a native. im pretty fucking sure that i would catch most people on here picking fruit under the hot ass sun for $5. we can just blame the immigrants but also the business owners who are paying because at the end of the day who's decision is to hire and pay them? [patriot]

well I have no problem with immigrant, the problem is that these Ilegal immigrants are asking for too much! They need to be happy that they are here and working (if you don't like it then go back home). If they are given Citizenship then what in 10 years well do it all over again???? Its a never ending cycle! If they don't like it they should stay home and apply to come to the US legally. ya it takes a long time but it can be done, My family did it why can't theirs????
 
Posted by GOT 50 (Member # 1960) on :
 
Usually people apply for citizenship before they come to a country. This would be the proper way of coming to a country legally. Unless of course they are on a work visa/school visa. I wish I was born with a silver spoon in y mouth. Instead of working hard and buying a house with my own money at 25 maybe I would own 2-3 at this point in my life.

So are you proud to be an AMERICAN?
 
Posted by 91silverbullet (Member # 8668) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 90FoX:
1) Illegals should be denied medical care regardless of the situation. Your ass shouldn't FUCKING BE HERE IN THE FIRST GODDAMN PLACE!!! Giving them medical care for free just makes them more likely to return or more likely for new illegals to come here. [Mad]

"oh what hella good medical care for free? yea I'm going there legally or ILLEGALLY!!"

2) Illegals should not be allowed to use our tax dollars to give birth to children who then become citizens. Then the parents use their kids citizenship to become citizens themselves. The law should change and apply to only those children who are born here with parents who have come to the U.S legally. [Mad]

3) Illegal's kids should not be allowed to attend our schools NO MATTER WHAT!!!! [Mad]

4) We should invest significantly to prevent illegals from entering the country, this is more a terrorism issue than people just coming here to work and better their life etc. [Mad]

5) Don't give me no bullshit about illegals doing work cheap. The jobs they do pay hella low wages. If they weren't here doing the jobs at low wages employers would either a) pay higher wages to legal citizens who contribute to taxes etc or b) go out of business and allow those who are able to afford running a business in that industry to take over. Yes the prices for shit we pay would increase in numerous areas but I don't give a damn. I rather pay more for goods than have the govt steal my hard earned money and use it to teach ILLEGAL FUCKING KIDS IN OUR SCHOOLS(who by the way make classrooms that much more larger hurting OUR kids education), pay FOR ILLEGALS MEDICAL EXPENSES etc... [Mad]

PERIOD [Mad]

Ur lucky ur behind a keyboard..I would slap some sense into u if we we're in person...
 
Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
quote:
Originally posted by 90FoX:
1) Illegals should be denied medical care regardless of the situation. Your ass shouldn't FUCKING BE HERE IN THE FIRST GODDAMN PLACE!!! Giving them medical care for free just makes them more likely to return or more likely for new illegals to come here. [Mad]

"oh what hella good medical care for free? yea I'm going there legally or ILLEGALLY!!"

2) Illegals should not be allowed to use our tax dollars to give birth to children who then become citizens. Then the parents use their kids citizenship to become citizens themselves. The law should change and apply to only those children who are born here with parents who have come to the U.S legally. [Mad]

3) Illegal's kids should not be allowed to attend our schools NO MATTER WHAT!!!! [Mad]

4) We should invest significantly to prevent illegals from entering the country, this is more a terrorism issue than people just coming here to work and better their life etc. [Mad]

5) Don't give me no bullshit about illegals doing work cheap. The jobs they do pay hella low wages. If they weren't here doing the jobs at low wages employers would either a) pay higher wages to legal citizens who contribute to taxes etc or b) go out of business and allow those who are able to afford running a business in that industry to take over. Yes the prices for shit we pay would increase in numerous areas but I don't give a damn. I rather pay more for goods than have the govt steal my hard earned money and use it to teach ILLEGAL FUCKING KIDS IN OUR SCHOOLS(who by the way make classrooms that much more larger hurting OUR kids education), pay FOR ILLEGALS MEDICAL EXPENSES etc... [Mad]

PERIOD [Mad]

Ur lucky ur behind a keyboard..I would slap some sense into u if we we're in person...
lol.... [Roll Eyes]

Why don't you use that energy to try and explain to me what's wrong with the logic or ideas I have presented?

Can you do that or because you don't want me to have an opinion you feel you shouldn't have one either:confused:

If you are so happy to pay for their medical bills you should volunteer your paycheck.

If you feel it's okay to cram our classrooms with kids who shouldn't be there and hurt the education of students who are here legally maybe you should contribute some of that paycheck to schools and help get more teachers.

If you don't think terrorists won't use the almost unguarded borders to get into the U.S. then you have a lot to learn.

[ July 08, 2009, 08:12 PM: Message edited by: 90FoX ]
 
Posted by 91silverbullet (Member # 8668) on :
 
You have the opinion of some who's brain is wired with their ass..I'm not gonna waste my time with a racist idiot..so I'm done with this thread nice talking to y'all..hope your feelings didn't get hurt..and I would gllllaaadly take this topic up in person..
 
Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
You have the opinion of some who's brain is wired with their ass..I'm not gonna waste my time with a racist idiot..so I'm done with this thread nice talking to y'all..hope your feelings didn't get hurt..and I would gllllaaadly take this topic up in person..

ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?

How am I racist?

Please do explain this [Confused]

If you think the statements I made are racist then I don't know what's wrong with you.

Calling me racist because of that post is extremely ignorant... [Roll Eyes]

I have friends from all different races.

I have been the victim of racism in my past.

I am the last person you should be calling racist.

You obviously are out of your league when discussing matters like this so be my guest to leave this thread....

[ July 08, 2009, 08:15 PM: Message edited by: 90FoX ]
 
Posted by 91silverbullet (Member # 8668) on :
 
Out of my league? I'm speaking of something that I lived..your speaking somethng that you think you have an idea about...and. think that ur right..now that's hilarious..do yourself a favor and go to another thread and post stupid ass shit like you like to do anyways..
 
Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
You have no argument against my stance other than it makes you mad and now you want to fight.

In my experience when people are proved wrong or have no argument they get upset.

Honestly I'm a very open minded person and if someone presents an argument to me that makes sense and has logic etc I normally tend to agree with them.

So the way you are acting shows me your just upset that people don't want to support illegals and you can't force someone to want to support illegals.

Also your responses have nothing to do with what I've discussed here.

Don't take me messing around on the forums and post whoring as a sign that I am uneducated and know nothing. I leave that at that.

You can't even explain how my comments made me a racist so how can anyone take you seriously when you just post shit and have no way to back up your statements? If your going to say something then be able to defend it, otherwise your credibility is tarnished......

[ July 08, 2009, 08:31 PM: Message edited by: 90FoX ]
 
Posted by NorCalRydaz (Member # 3233) on :
 
RACISM is wack. We also shouldn't have dumb ass ESL programs/ Bi-lingual education. What a waste of money! When you come to this country you have to learn the language and try to succeed in life. Even sorry ass lazy citizens need to get punished NOT rewarded for being a dumb ass. CUT welfare and housing. That Shit is a F*cking JOKE
 
Posted by SHOalex (Member # 7720) on :
 
hahahaha, well this post can go on for ever im mexican and am proud to be a natural born american citizen YES everyone here MUST bring something to the table but how can that be possible if you dont let immigrants legalize. I ask this to any american if americas AWESOME! economic structure falls on its face (which it seems like were headed their) and your forced to leave the country and pursue work elsewhere would you??? Or would you leave your family to starve and fend for themself? THINK HARD break the law and feed my 2 year old or "do the right thing" and go through the legal process to work in this country as my two year old wonders why their isnt any lunch or dinner tonight or why she cant have any cough medicine ect ect

I know this is a bit of a rant but for gods sake lets not be totally ignorant here THIS IS A FORD SITE NOT A SOCIALIST PARTY FORUM!! God bless our great nation [patriot] [patriot] [patriot]
 
Posted by liftedF150 (Member # 868) on :
 
dam we have had some awesome threads latly, o ya just to add, Instead of complaining about it being this race and whatnot how about we blame the people really responsable for all this mess and that would be poloticians. You think about how badly miss managed budgets have been and the radical spending and the people responsable for that are the people running the state. Theres no since in fighting with each other over stupid stuff like this and actually go after the real problem.

[ July 08, 2009, 08:37 PM: Message edited by: liftedF150 ]
 
Posted by liftedF150 (Member # 868) on :
 
And now back to your schedualed show.....
 
Posted by SHOalex (Member # 7720) on :
 
AND! not to mention all the middle america rednecks who cook meth beat their wife and punch their cousin suzy at the same time

Im sure they contribute a great deal to this country THANK GOD FOR THOSE AMERICA LOVING BASTARDS!
 
Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
I haven't brought race into this at all.

[patriot]
 
Posted by 91silverbullet (Member # 8668) on :
 
The funny thing is that this shit ain't gonna go nowhere fast..so ill just leave with my perspective of you being a douche ...and you can leave with the impression that ima uneducated immigrant who is a year away from having a criminal justice degree and already has a job lined up as a police officer...but since all us immigrants take up room in classrooms ..which are filled with knowledge hungry AMERICAN kids. We have no right to succed here..have a nice day bro ...and god bless you
 
Posted by bottled95GT?? (Member # 1772) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
and not to let little arrogant "americans" make me feel bad cause i wasnt born with a silver spoon in my mouth and had everything easy..we work to get where we are now. !PROUD TO HAVE BEEN AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT! [patriot]

I was staying out of this but now im in. *ding ding*
Wow i wish i woulda been born with a silver spoon. I was born here, wheres mine? Im Mexican/White, I work my ass off on a daily basis driving 100's of miles and lifting 1000's of pounds of concrete and related items by hand. I work my ass off, but it seems like it doesnt pay off or get me anywhere. Cant even buy a house in this market.

Ill tell you what i am upset about, not being able to qualify for financial aid for school (back when i graduated)But fellow friends could (ill explain)
My parents make decent $ but with 4 kids and a house they didnt have the $ to help me. No issue, i figure id apply for aid and loans and put myself through school. Well my parents made so much i was disqualified from every aid and grant i applied for, being i lived in their house. Yet my job didnt pay me enough to fund myself.
But 2 good friends of mine; each had parents who werent legal and made what my parents do, were both granted aid AND ethnicity supported grants that i was denied. They got to go to top rated schools (ucla and arizona state) while I put dreams of a higher education on hold, and had to go to work. [BS flag]
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.....although now its funny and sad to see, my high school educated hard working ass has a very good( said lightly ) job, where my one friend with now an AA and BA, and the other with an MBA cant get a damn job [Eek!]
 
Posted by SPIDER_STANG (Member # 8658) on :
 
Are You Ready To Rumble??? [Confused] Time and time again a thread comes up about a certain race!!! You already know it will bring some heat!! But we still post!!! You have to Love AMERICA!! [patriot] N8 was trying to stay quiet but got pushed into this convo & he's Black!!! Ha, Ha 2 funny. [Eek!] [dance]
 
Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
The funny thing is that this shit ain't gonna go nowhere fast..so ill just leave with my perspective of you being a douche ...and you can leave with the impression that ima uneducated immigrant who is a year away from having a criminal justice degree and already has a job lined up as a police officer...but since all us immigrants take up room in classrooms ..which are filled with knowledge hungry AMERICAN kids. We have no right to succed here..have a nice day bro ...and god bless you

I don't think it would go nowhere. Also by calling me a douche further proves that you have no argument you just feel that legal citizens should support illegal citizens. So help me prove my point even more, feel free [Wink]

I like hearing what other people have to say, instead of trying to fight them [Roll Eyes]

I never insinuated that you were uneducated, you are making things up now. Please quote me if you feel I made this implication.

I believe that a child who is here illegally has no right to get taught in our public school system regardless of whether or not they will out perform a child who is here legally.

Let's keep to the facts.

Also you still never explained how I am racist....
[Confused]


edit - you said your going to become a cop? wow that's a scary picture with you making threats over the net already with someone who has a different opinion than you. I'm sure you will be unbiased and uphold the law. [Roll Eyes]

[ July 08, 2009, 09:03 PM: Message edited by: 90FoX ]
 
Posted by CHP2981 (Member # 9240) on :
 
Proud to be Apache/Mexican/American. Like I always say to anybody "Things could be worse" be thankful for what you have and any day above ground is a good day. Eventually the world will be one race.
 
Posted by scoop510 (Member # 8726) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NavidR:
quote:
Originally posted by scoop510:
its funny how people bash on immigrants coming to America, yea its not right that they are not paying taxes but alot of them are trying to do better for them and their family, like how we would do for ours. but we gotta remember we all started from some ware and sure as hell wasn't HERE unless your a native. im pretty fucking sure that i would catch most people on here picking fruit under the hot ass sun for $5. we can just blame the immigrants but also the business owners who are paying because at the end of the day who's decision is to hire and pay them? [patriot]

well I have no problem with immigrant, the problem is that these Ilegal immigrants are asking for too much! They need to be happy that they are here and working (if you don't like it then go back home). If they are given Citizenship then what in 10 years well do it all over again???? Its a never ending cycle! If they don't like it they should stay home and apply to come to the US legally. ya it takes a long time but it can be done, My family did it why can't theirs????
i agree with that, im the first gen of my family my parents came got their citizenship shit you'll hear my mom say shes American with her accent lol. but yea im just saying people gotta do what they gotta do to survive but yea fuck the people who take advantage of the system.
 
Posted by 91silverbullet (Member # 8668) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 90FoX:
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
The funny thing is that this shit ain't gonna go nowhere fast..so ill just leave with my perspective of you being a douche ...and you can leave with the impression that ima uneducated immigrant who is a year away from having a criminal justice degree and already has a job lined up as a police officer...but since all us immigrants take up room in classrooms ..which are filled with knowledge hungry AMERICAN kids. We have no right to succed here..have a nice day bro ...and god bless you

I don't think it would go nowhere. Also by calling me a douche further proves that you have no argument you just feel that legal citizens should support illegal citizens. So help me prove my point even more, feel free [Wink]

I like hearing what other people have to say, instead of trying to fight them [Roll Eyes]

I never insinuated that you were uneducated, you are making things up now. Please quote me if you feel I made this implication.

I believe that a child who is here illegally has no right to get taught in our public school system regardless of whether or not they will out perform a child who is here legally.

Let's keep to the facts.

Also you still never explained how I am racist....
[Confused]

A kid who is here illegaly has no right to a education?? you have gotta be the most simple person I've ever spoken to..and honestly bro stop posting shit towards me cause I'm done with you..like I said before I'm preety sure well run into each other at some point at a meet or at the track and ill be happy to take it up in person..
 
Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
quote:
Originally posted by 90FoX:
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
The funny thing is that this shit ain't gonna go nowhere fast..so ill just leave with my perspective of you being a douche ...and you can leave with the impression that ima uneducated immigrant who is a year away from having a criminal justice degree and already has a job lined up as a police officer...but since all us immigrants take up room in classrooms ..which are filled with knowledge hungry AMERICAN kids. We have no right to succed here..have a nice day bro ...and god bless you

I don't think it would go nowhere. Also by calling me a douche further proves that you have no argument you just feel that legal citizens should support illegal citizens. So help me prove my point even more, feel free [Wink]

I like hearing what other people have to say, instead of trying to fight them [Roll Eyes]

I never insinuated that you were uneducated, you are making things up now. Please quote me if you feel I made this implication.

I believe that a child who is here illegally has no right to get taught in our public school system regardless of whether or not they will out perform a child who is here legally.

Let's keep to the facts.

Also you still never explained how I am racist....
[Confused]

A kid who is here illegaly has no right to a education?? you have gotta be the most simple person I've ever spoken to..and honestly bro stop posting shit towards me cause I'm done with you..like I said before I'm preety sure well run into each other at some point at a meet or at the track and ill be happy to take it up in person..
Well it's a very a simple situation...

I'll stop posting just tell me how my post made me racist...that's all I want to know...

When we discuss in person are you going to force your opinions on me? If you've completed school and are going to become a cop how can you make comments like this? [Confused]

[ July 08, 2009, 09:10 PM: Message edited by: 90FoX ]
 
Posted by bottled95GT?? (Member # 1772) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
quote:
Originally posted by 90FoX:
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
The funny thing is that this shit ain't gonna go nowhere fast..so ill just leave with my perspective of you being a douche ...and you can leave with the impression that ima uneducated immigrant who is a year away from having a criminal justice degree and already has a job lined up as a police officer...but since all us immigrants take up room in classrooms ..which are filled with knowledge hungry AMERICAN kids. We have no right to succed here..have a nice day bro ...and god bless you

I don't think it would go nowhere. Also by calling me a douche further proves that you have no argument you just feel that legal citizens should support illegal citizens. So help me prove my point even more, feel free [Wink]

I like hearing what other people have to say, instead of trying to fight them [Roll Eyes]

I never insinuated that you were uneducated, you are making things up now. Please quote me if you feel I made this implication.

I believe that a child who is here illegally has no right to get taught in our public school system regardless of whether or not they will out perform a child who is here legally.

Let's keep to the facts.

Also you still never explained how I am racist....
[Confused]

A kid who is here illegaly has no right to a education?? you have gotta be the most simple person I've ever spoken to..and honestly bro stop posting shit towards me cause I'm done with you..like I said before I'm preety sure well run into each other at some point at a meet or at the track and ill be happy to take it up in person..
Im not getting into it, but just from reading, i think it retarded for a criminal justice major / future police officer to be making threatening comments over the internet.... just my opinion.
 
Posted by 87redgt (Member # 9176) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bottled95GT??:
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
quote:
Originally posted by 90FoX:
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
The funny thing is that this shit ain't gonna go nowhere fast..so ill just leave with my perspective of you being a douche ...and you can leave with the impression that ima uneducated immigrant who is a year away from having a criminal justice degree and already has a job lined up as a police officer...but since all us immigrants take up room in classrooms ..which are filled with knowledge hungry AMERICAN kids. We have no right to succed here..have a nice day bro ...and god bless you

I don't think it would go nowhere. Also by calling me a douche further proves that you have no argument you just feel that legal citizens should support illegal citizens. So help me prove my point even more, feel free [Wink]

I like hearing what other people have to say, instead of trying to fight them [Roll Eyes]

I never insinuated that you were uneducated, you are making things up now. Please quote me if you feel I made this implication.

I believe that a child who is here illegally has no right to get taught in our public school system regardless of whether or not they will out perform a child who is here legally.

Let's keep to the facts.

Also you still never explained how I am racist....
[Confused]

A kid who is here illegaly has no right to a education?? you have gotta be the most simple person I've ever spoken to..and honestly bro stop posting shit towards me cause I'm done with you..like I said before I'm preety sure well run into each other at some point at a meet or at the track and ill be happy to take it up in person..
Im not getting into it, but just from reading, i think it retarded for a criminal justice major / future police officer to be making threatening comments over the internet.... just my opinion.
Who knows, maybe he just wants to have a sit-down and talk it over a cup of tea? Just saying you never know....
 
Posted by bottled95GT?? (Member # 1772) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 87redgt:
quote:
Originally posted by bottled95GT??:
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
quote:
Originally posted by 90FoX:
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
The funny thing is that this shit ain't gonna go nowhere fast..so ill just leave with my perspective of you being a douche ...and you can leave with the impression that ima uneducated immigrant who is a year away from having a criminal justice degree and already has a job lined up as a police officer...but since all us immigrants take up room in classrooms ..which are filled with knowledge hungry AMERICAN kids. We have no right to succed here..have a nice day bro ...and god bless you

I don't think it would go nowhere. Also by calling me a douche further proves that you have no argument you just feel that legal citizens should support illegal citizens. So help me prove my point even more, feel free [Wink]

I like hearing what other people have to say, instead of trying to fight them [Roll Eyes]

I never insinuated that you were uneducated, you are making things up now. Please quote me if you feel I made this implication.

I believe that a child who is here illegally has no right to get taught in our public school system regardless of whether or not they will out perform a child who is here legally.

Let's keep to the facts.

Also you still never explained how I am racist....
[Confused]

A kid who is here illegaly has no right to a education?? you have gotta be the most simple person I've ever spoken to..and honestly bro stop posting shit towards me cause I'm done with you..like I said before I'm preety sure well run into each other at some point at a meet or at the track and ill be happy to take it up in person..
Im not getting into it, but just from reading, i think it retarded for a criminal justice major / future police officer to be making threatening comments over the internet.... just my opinion.
Who knows, maybe he just wants to have a sit-down and talk it over a cup of tea? Just saying you never know....
LMFAO [worship] i cracked up reading that. Thank you i needed that [patriot] [Whoo Whooooo!]
 
Posted by 23109 (Member # 4347) on :
 
Hey 90fox your not a racist. People that are losing an argument or debate tend to use that against people.
 
Posted by phil a (Member # 6951) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bottled95GT??:
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
quote:
Originally posted by 90FoX:
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
The funny thing is that this shit ain't gonna go nowhere fast..so ill just leave with my perspective of you being a douche ...and you can leave with the impression that ima uneducated immigrant who is a year away from having a criminal justice degree and already has a job lined up as a police officer...but since all us immigrants take up room in classrooms ..which are filled with knowledge hungry AMERICAN kids. We have no right to succed here..have a nice day bro ...and god bless you

I don't think it would go nowhere. Also by calling me a douche further proves that you have no argument you just feel that legal citizens should support illegal citizens. So help me prove my point even more, feel free [Wink]

I like hearing what other people have to say, instead of trying to fight them [Roll Eyes]

I never insinuated that you were uneducated, you are making things up now. Please quote me if you feel I made this implication.

I believe that a child who is here illegally has no right to get taught in our public school system regardless of whether or not they will out perform a child who is here legally.

Let's keep to the facts.

Also you still never explained how I am racist....
[Confused]

A kid who is here illegaly has no right to a education?? you have gotta be the most simple person I've ever spoken to..and honestly bro stop posting shit towards me cause I'm done with you..like I said before I'm preety sure well run into each other at some point at a meet or at the track and ill be happy to take it up in person..
Im not getting into it, but just from reading, i think it retarded for a criminal justice major / future police officer to be making threatening comments over the internet.... just my opinion.
Haha, glad you caught that, I was thinking the same thing. Dude is so backed into a corner that's he's gotta threaten multiple people over a keyboard? At least he's going into the right profession given his propensity toward angry and powertrippin. Interesting topic, lots of crazy opinions here. Dunno if it necessarily has to be about race per se, but more about the attitude of an increasing number of lazy fucking people in this country, regardless of color or country of origin. There may be a disproportionate amount of a certain color or ethnicity on government assistance; that's just a statistic, not an indicator. Believing that your are entitled to something from the government for nothing is bullshit. If we could all choose how our tax dollars went to public assistance, there'd be a lot of fucking people who'd suddenly clean up their act when the honey pot dried up. Gotta work to eat, right?
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bottled95GT??:
quote:
Originally posted by 87redgt:
quote:
Originally posted by bottled95GT??:
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
quote:
Originally posted by 90FoX:
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
The funny thing is that this shit ain't gonna go nowhere fast..so ill just leave with my perspective of you being a douche ...and you can leave with the impression that ima uneducated immigrant who is a year away from having a criminal justice degree and already has a job lined up as a police officer...but since all us immigrants take up room in classrooms ..which are filled with knowledge hungry AMERICAN kids. We have no right to succed here..have a nice day bro ...and god bless you

I don't think it would go nowhere. Also by calling me a douche further proves that you have no argument you just feel that legal citizens should support illegal citizens. So help me prove my point even more, feel free [Wink]

I like hearing what other people have to say, instead of trying to fight them [Roll Eyes]

I never insinuated that you were uneducated, you are making things up now. Please quote me if you feel I made this implication.

I believe that a child who is here illegally has no right to get taught in our public school system regardless of whether or not they will out perform a child who is here legally.

Let's keep to the facts.

Also you still never explained how I am racist....
[Confused]

A kid who is here illegaly has no right to a education?? you have gotta be the most simple person I've ever spoken to..and honestly bro stop posting shit towards me cause I'm done with you..like I said before I'm preety sure well run into each other at some point at a meet or at the track and ill be happy to take it up in person..
Im not getting into it, but just from reading, i think it retarded for a criminal justice major / future police officer to be making threatening comments over the internet.... just my opinion.
Who knows, maybe he just wants to have a sit-down and talk it over a cup of tea? Just saying you never know....
LMFAO [worship] i cracked up reading that. Thank you i needed that [patriot] [Whoo Whooooo!]
Hey everybody, hoo-ride on bottled he laughed at a comment.

Not singling you out. But I laughed at a comment then got thrown into this BS. I purposely tried to stay out of it too. Imagine that [worship]

[ July 08, 2009, 09:45 PM: Message edited by: N8 ]
 
Posted by 91silverbullet (Member # 8668) on :
 
I don't think I ever said I was gonna do something to him ..I just said ill rather take it up in person couase like it was once said arguing over the internet is like the special olympics even if you win you're still retarded..hahaha.. but the whoe racist thing maybe racist wasn't the right word to use but basically your saying that people not from here have no right to anything so you're saying and that's DISCRIMINATING ..that's the word I was looking for..
 
Posted by 91silverbullet (Member # 8668) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by phil a:
quote:
Originally posted by bottled95GT??:
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
quote:
Originally posted by 90FoX:
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
The funny thing is that this shit ain't gonna go nowhere fast..so ill just leave with my perspective of you being a douche ...and you can leave with the impression that ima uneducated immigrant who is a year away from having a criminal justice degree and already has a job lined up as a police officer...but since all us immigrants take up room in classrooms ..which are filled with knowledge hungry AMERICAN kids. We have no right to succed here..have a nice day bro ...and god bless you

I don't think it would go nowhere. Also by calling me a douche further proves that you have no argument you just feel that legal citizens should support illegal citizens. So help me prove my point even more, feel free [Wink]

I like hearing what other people have to say, instead of trying to fight them [Roll Eyes]

I never insinuated that you were uneducated, you are making things up now. Please quote me if you feel I made this implication.

I believe that a child who is here illegally has no right to get taught in our public school system regardless of whether or not they will out perform a child who is here legally.

Let's keep to the facts.

Also you still never explained how I am racist....
[Confused]

A kid who is here illegaly has no right to a education?? you have gotta be the most simple person I've ever spoken to..and honestly bro stop posting shit towards me cause I'm done with you..like I said before I'm preety sure well run into each other at some point at a meet or at the track and ill be happy to take it up in person..
Im not getting into it, but just from reading, i think it retarded for a criminal justice major / future police officer to be making threatening comments over the internet.... just my opinion.
Haha, glad you caught that, I was thinking the same thing. Dude is so backed into a corner that's he's gotta threaten multiple people over a keyboard? At least he's going into the right profession given his propensity toward angry and powertrippin. Interesting topic, lots of crazy opinions here. Dunno if it necessarily has to be about race per se, but more about the attitude of an increasing number of lazy fucking people in this country, regardless of color or country of origin. There may be a disproportionate amount of a certain color or ethnicity on government assistance; that's just a statistic, not an indicator. Believing that your are entitled to something from the government for nothing is bullshit. If we could all choose how our tax dollars went to public assistance, there'd be a lot of fucking people who'd suddenly clean up their act when the honey pot dried up. Gotta work to eat, right?
Haha never threatened anyone over a keyboard bro..and if I ever do I would have no problem saying it to someones face..and me going into the law enforcement field has nothing to do with my opinion on the matter.
 
Posted by cees87drop (Member # 4066) on :
 
I honestly believe everyone needs to thoroughly read the original post. If you break it down, it is pretty much just another Craigslist rant. There is no real facts or real statistics. Ex. “I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese”. WTF.

This is what you call modern day propaganda. The state is in a whole and they need a scapegoat.

Why don’t you guys post facts.
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SHOalex:
AND! not to mention all the middle america rednecks who cook meth beat their wife and punch their cousin suzy at the same time

Im sure they contribute a great deal to this country THANK GOD FOR THOSE AMERICA LOVING BASTARDS!

hey don't get down on them they keep the drug dealers in Oakland supplied to keep your economy down there rolling.
 
Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
I don't think I ever said I was gonna do something to him ..I just said ill rather take it up in person couase like it was once said arguing over the internet is like the special olympics even if you win you're still retarded..hahaha.. but the whoe racist thing maybe racist wasn't the right word to use but basically your saying that people not from here have no right to anything so you're saying and that's DISCRIMINATING ..that's the word I was looking for..

Interesting you see it that way. If you read my post again you will see I stated that the people who are here ILLEGALLY have no right to anything. If you want to call that discrimination, that's fine.

But realize there is a huge difference between me thinking NO ONE is entitled to anything vs ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS not being entitled to anything.

Also you did say you would do something to me...
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.
.
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
Haha never threatened anyone over a keyboard bro..and if I ever do I would have no problem saying it to someones face....

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.
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
quote:
Originally posted by 90FoX:

Ur lucky ur behind a keyboard..I would slap some sense into u if we we're in person...
To me it seems because of a sudden backlash of members saying you shouldn't be making threats, you have tried to save face.... [Roll Eyes]

So first you make statements that you have no intention of backing,

Then you threaten me,

And now you lie....

I don't think you have much credibility anymore.

Also did you happen to vote at all in any election?

[ July 08, 2009, 10:52 PM: Message edited by: 90FoX ]
 
Posted by 91silverbullet (Member # 8668) on :
 
I guess bro I really could careless what ANYONE in this forum thinks of the way I stand in the matter..and I just look at it different cause I'm the minority of immigrants that came up different I was never a burden to any of you tax payers..its just funny that all you guys jump at it with radical points of views..like it was said before its like saying blacks are a burden to society cause all they do is live of the government and commit crimes ..but its not all of them ...and no I didn't vote in any election politics is a bunch of bs ..and I'm sorry that I said I would slap you I just really got offended by your first post cause to me it was ignorant..specially the part when you said immigrant kids don't deserve a education ..cmon bro the kids are the future if they don't get educated we are bound to keep living in the pos world we live in now..
 
Posted by SHOalex (Member # 7720) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by cees87drop:
I honestly believe everyone needs to thoroughly read the original post. If you break it down, it is pretty much just another Craigslist rant. There is no real facts or real statistics. Ex. “I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese”. WTF.

This is what you call modern day propaganda. The state is in a whole and they need a scapegoat.

Why don’t you guys post facts.

YES. Thank you propaganda is exactly what that is and it contains MINIMAL fact if any.

I was thinking how damn stupid do you have to be when you read a rant like that and belove it to be pure fact hahaha wow
 
Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
I guess bro I really could careless what ANYONE in this forum thinks of the way I stand in the matter..and I just look at it different cause I'm the minority of immigrants that came up different I was never a burden to any of you tax payers..its just funny that all you guys jump at it with radical points of views..like it was said before its like saying blacks are a burden to society cause all they do is live of the government and commit crimes ..but its not all of them ...and no I didn't vote in any election politics is a bunch of bs ..and I'm sorry that I said I would slap you I just really got offended by your first post cause to me it was ignorant..specially the part when you said immigrant kids don't deserve a education ..cmon bro the kids are the future if they don't get educated we are bound to keep living in the pos world we live in now..

Apology accepted.

Your not the first person to want to fight me on this forum. I don't like to fight, I just like debating, especially about politics. I wish people could get along and have healthy debates without having to turn into mancho man randy savage [Razz]

Because you were not a burden to the state does not mean the next illegal immigrant is not a burden. So what do we do? Try to find out the ones that are a burden and the ones that are not a burden? That would be an administrative mess. It's better to just not have illegal immigrants.

Now the reason I feel they should not have an education or any other services is because they truly are not contributing to taxes and by receiving free services we encourage more and more and more and more illegal immigrants to come here. What does this cause? An additional burden and a higher proportion of tax dollars being directed towards their needs. Before you know it half of California will be illegal immigrants and only half of California will be paying for the services they receive.(Yes, half is a high number, but I'm just trying to demonstrate my point)

Now by offering those people who are here illegally no services we reduce the incentives for illegal immigrants to want to come here and get free services that we, the tax payers, must provide.

Another point, you probably feel that when I say illegal immigrants I am speaking of only those from Mexico or South America. But that is not true.

I'm sure you've heard of illegal Chinese coming here in cargo containers etc. There are probably people from every ethnicity here in the U.S. illegally.

As I said before, I have had to deal with racism a majority of my life and am the last person anyone should be calling racist.

I do however love my country (America [patriot] ) and can see the bullshit our federal and local govt is doing and it upsets me beyond belief. Not only does California spend on illegal immigrants, the state spends our money on stupid ass fucking shit like RESEARCHING SEA OTTERS!!!!! [Mad] Are you fucking serious? Sea Otters? Our state has it's priorities all fucked up pour millions if not billions into unneeded programs but yet the governor is threatening the jobs of those who keep us safe: police officers, firemen, correctional officers etc [Frown]

On top of that our liberties are being stripped from us left and right and the only thing a majority of Americans care about is MJ's death or who will be the next American Idol....

NObama is extremely inexperienced in foreign relations and it already shows. His policies are fascist/socialist and against what our founding fathers had in mind when drafting the constitution. They are probably rolling over in their graves as we speak.

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[ July 08, 2009, 11:26 PM: Message edited by: 90FoX ]
 
Posted by CALIFORNIAGT (Member # 7845) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 90FoX:
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
I guess bro I really could careless what ANYONE in this forum thinks of the way I stand in the matter..and I just look at it different cause I'm the minority of immigrants that came up different I was never a burden to any of you tax payers..its just funny that all you guys jump at it with radical points of views..like it was said before its like saying blacks are a burden to society cause all they do is live of the government and commit crimes ..but its not all of them ...and no I didn't vote in any election politics is a bunch of bs ..and I'm sorry that I said I would slap you I just really got offended by your first post cause to me it was ignorant..specially the part when you said immigrant kids don't deserve a education ..cmon bro the kids are the future if they don't get educated we are bound to keep living in the pos world we live in now..

Apology accepted.

Your not the first person to want to fight me on this forum. I don't like to fight, I just like debating, especially about politics. I wish people could get along and have healthy debates without having to turn into mancho man randy savage [Razz]

Because you were not a burden to the state does not mean the next illegal immigrant is not a burden. So what do we do? Try to find out the ones that are a burden and the ones that are not a burden? That would be an administrative mess. It's better to just not have illegal immigrants.

Now the reason I feel they should not have an education or any other services is because they truly are not contributing to taxes and by receiving free services we encourage more and more and more and more illegal immigrants to come here. What does this cause? An additional burden and a higher proportion of tax dollars being directed towards their needs. Before you know it half of California will be illegal immigrants and only half of California will be paying for the services they receive.(Yes, half is a high number, but I'm just trying to demonstrate my point)

Now by offering those people who are here illegally no services we reduce the incentives for illegal immigrants to want to come here and get free services that we, the tax payers, must provide.

Another point, you probably feel that when I say illegal immigrants I am speaking of only those from Mexico or South America. But that is not true.

I'm sure you've heard of illegal Chinese coming here in cargo containers etc. There are probably people from every ethnicity here in the U.S. illegally.

As I said before, I have had to deal with racism a majority of my life and am the last person anyone should be calling racist.

I do however love my country (America [patriot] ) and can see the bullshit our federal and local govt is doing and it upsets me beyond belief. Not only does California spend on illegal immigrants, the state spends our money on stupid ass fucking shit like RESEARCHING SEA OTTERS!!!!! [Mad] Are you fucking serious? Sea Otters? Our state has it's priorities all fucked up pour millions if not billions into unneeded programs but yet the governor is threatening the jobs of those who keep us safe: police officers, firemen, correctional officers etc [Frown]

On top of that our liberties are being stripped from us left and right and the only thing a majority of Americans care about is MJ's death or who will be the next American Idol....

NObama is extremely inexperienced in foreign relations and it already shows. His policies are fascist/socialist and against what our founding fathers had in mind when drafting the constitution. They are probably rolling over in their graves as we speak.

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damn this fool [Embarrassed]
 
Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
[Big Grin]

I forgot....

RANT: on [off]
 
Posted by 87redgt (Member # 9176) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
I guess bro I really could careless what ANYONE in this forum thinks of the way I stand in the matter..and I just look at it different cause I'm the minority of immigrants that came up different I was never a burden to any of you tax payers..its just funny that all you guys jump at it with radical points of views..like it was said before its like saying blacks are a burden to society cause all they do is live of the government and commit crimes ..but its not all of them ...and no I didn't vote in any election politics is a bunch of bs ..and I'm sorry that I said I would slap you I just really got offended by your first post cause to me it was ignorant..specially the part when you said immigrant kids don't deserve a education ..cmon bro the kids are the future if they don't get educated we are bound to keep living in the pos world we live in now..

So I was right?
 
Posted by 89 306 (Member # 9042) on :
 
and i suppose this is coming from the "HARD WORKING WHITE MAN??"
ok let me say this...if the white man is so hard working why are a big majority of bumbs white?? hmmm is it due to a long life of hard work??
i wonder?? dont be mad about the "immagrant" come to america and work!!
shit you probably have "immagrants" working for you...
you want to call them illegal aliens...
dont u forget that these "immagrants" owned the state we live in today !!CALIFORNIA!! until the greedy white man came and STOLED many states away...HOW CAN U SAY THESE PEOPLE ARE ALIENS IF CALIFORNIA AND A COUPLE SURROUNDING STATES WERE OWNED BY WHO OTHER, THE "ILLEGAL ALIENS"...MAYBE ITS JUST SOME PAYBACK SO THE WHITE MAN WONT GO AROUND STEALING SHIT..OH WAIT BUSH DID IT WITH IRAQ..STEALING OIL..SOO WHAT EXACTLY MAKES THEM ANY LESS THEN THE WHITE MAN?? IF ANYTHING THE WHITE MAN IS JUST JEALOUS!!!

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Originally posted by turbo50:
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Originally posted by N8:
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Originally posted by turbo50:
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Originally posted by N8:
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Originally posted by 89 306:
maybe if the white man got up his ass and cut his own grass and made his lazy toothpick lookin wife to clean their own house maybe we wouldnt have this issue..
instead of always calling some one to do he work for you whites do the shit ur self and keep the us from such a big issue!!
[BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [Mad]

That almost made me spit soda on my keyboard....lmao

Please 302Drop, 93exCHP, 90Fox, Alstock, please come in and whore this thread up. This thread will go no where fast.

I am sorry N8 but please elaborate as to why that would have made you spit soda (suprised you drink soda, you seem to be pretty health concious from your postings) on your keyboard?

Please tell me it was due to the fact that his post was OBSURD!

nothing to elaborate on, it was unexpected and a funny ass statement. Oh and it was a diet soda, so please keep the healthy image of a brotha.
I dont find one iota of humor in that statement and I would hope that you don't share this moron's views about the "white" man, if you do then I would hope you never need shit from me, either.

Lot's of fucks on here sharing their negative views of the "black" man and I am not finding any humor in that.....

I'm done on this post. Got me too fuckin pissed.


 
Posted by 89 306 (Member # 9042) on :
 
im glad i would never need a single thing from you..

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Originally posted by turbo50:
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Originally posted by 89 306:
maybe if the white man got up his ass and cut his own grass and made his lazy toothpick lookin wife to clean their own house maybe we wouldnt have this issue..
instead of always calling some one to do he work for you whites do the shit ur self and keep the us from such a big issue!!
[BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [Mad]

So now you are going to make a fuckin negative generalization about another race?

Did you not see the ignorance in this fuckin post?

Public forum and all but I would hope you never need shit from me dude......

you fuckin brain child............ [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes] [Roll Eyes]


 
Posted by GOT 50 (Member # 1960) on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by 89 306:
[QB] and i suppose this is coming from the "HARD WORKING WHITE MAN??"
ok let me say this...if the white man is so hard working why are a big majority of bumbs white?? hmmm is it due to a long life of hard work??
i wonder?? dont be mad about the "immagrant" come to america and work!!
shit you probably have "immagrants" working for you...
you want to call them illegal aliens...
dont u forget that these "immagrants" owned the state we live in today !!CALIFORNIA!! until the greedy white man came and STOLED many states away...HOW CAN U SAY THESE PEOPLE ARE ALIENS IF CALIFORNIA AND A COUPLE SURROUNDING STATES WERE OWNED BY WHO OTHER, THE "ILLEGAL ALIENS"...MAYBE ITS JUST SOME PAYBACK SO THE WHITE MAN WONT GO AROUND STEALING SHIT..OH WAIT BUSH DID IT WITH IRAQ..STEALING OIL..SOO WHAT EXACTLY MAKES THEM ANY LESS THEN THE WHITE MAN?? IF ANYTHING THE WHITE MAN IS JUST JEALOUS!!!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by turbo50:


I prefer the term conquered.

The "white people" really didnt steal it. Pretty sure there was alot of bloodshed.
 
Posted by CALIFORNIAGT (Member # 7845) on :
 
WHATS RACE [Confused] [Confused] [Confused] [Confused]
 
Posted by Cm4hawks (Member # 5231) on :
 
All i can say is between my sorry WHITE ass and my toothpick with we made almost 300k Last year. And if i want to pay some on to do my fucking yard so what. It has nothing to do with being lazy. I usally put between 70 to 96 hours a week in. Thats right more than your two weeks. Pisses me off everyone always wants to judge people.


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Originally posted by 89 306:
maybe if the white man got up his ass and cut his own grass and made his lazy toothpick lookin wife to clean their own house maybe we wouldnt have this issue..
instead of always calling some one to do he work for you whites do the shit ur self and keep the us from such a big issue!!
[BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [Mad]


 
Posted by phil a (Member # 6951) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 89 306:
and i suppose this is coming from the "HARD WORKING WHITE MAN??"
ok let me say this...if the white man is so hard working why are a big majority of bumbs white?? hmmm is it due to a long life of hard work??
i wonder?? dont be mad about the "immagrant" come to america and work!!
shit you probably have "immagrants" working for you...
you want to call them illegal aliens...
dont u forget that these "immagrants" owned the state we live in today !!CALIFORNIA!! until the greedy white man came and STOLED many states away...HOW CAN U SAY THESE PEOPLE ARE ALIENS IF CALIFORNIA AND A COUPLE SURROUNDING STATES WERE OWNED BY WHO OTHER, THE "ILLEGAL ALIENS"...MAYBE ITS JUST SOME PAYBACK SO THE WHITE MAN WONT GO AROUND STEALING SHIT..OH WAIT BUSH DID IT WITH IRAQ..STEALING OIL..SOO WHAT EXACTLY MAKES THEM ANY LESS THEN THE WHITE MAN?? IF ANYTHING THE WHITE MAN IS JUST JEALOUS!!!

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Originally posted by turbo50:
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Originally posted by N8:
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Originally posted by turbo50:
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Originally posted by N8:
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Originally posted by 89 306:
maybe if the white man got up his ass and cut his own grass and made his lazy toothpick lookin wife to clean their own house maybe we wouldnt have this issue..
instead of always calling some one to do he work for you whites do the shit ur self and keep the us from such a big issue!!
[BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [BS flag] [Mad]

That almost made me spit soda on my keyboard....lmao

Please 302Drop, 93exCHP, 90Fox, Alstock, please come in and whore this thread up. This thread will go no where fast.

I am sorry N8 but please elaborate as to why that would have made you spit soda (suprised you drink soda, you seem to be pretty health concious from your postings) on your keyboard?

Please tell me it was due to the fact that his post was OBSURD!

nothing to elaborate on, it was unexpected and a funny ass statement. Oh and it was a diet soda, so please keep the healthy image of a brotha.
I dont find one iota of humor in that statement and I would hope that you don't share this moron's views about the "white" man, if you do then I would hope you never need shit from me, either.

Lot's of fucks on here sharing their negative views of the "black" man and I am not finding any humor in that.....

I'm done on this post. Got me too fuckin pissed.


Perhaps the majority of bums (correct spelling) are white because . . . the majority of PEOPLE are white, therefore representing an accurate cross-slice of population proportions. Just a thought.

But yes, I think you are correct: the white man is definitely jealous. Down with Whitey!!
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
lol you guy's are all a bunch of idiots. Go back to working on cars and stay out of politics.
 
Posted by 9cobra7 (Member # 2812) on :
 
What can you say about 89 306's post above, he can't even complete a sentence without serious grammar issues. I've only seen a few people who posted some accurate responses to what the teacher was trying to communicate about the waste and lack of appreciation for what the illegals are getting for free. This about illegals, not race and yes they happen to be Mexican in this instance. Sorry it offends some of you sensitive asswipes so get some more Preparation H if this hurts. How the hell are you supposed to have a discussion if you can't actually talk about the problem here which again is illegals. Aahhh did I say it again...illegals!!! People are so fuckin' sensitive and politically correct we;ll soon be to afraid to say anything and just let states problems get worse. People keep saying just stop talking about politics so that means just bury your head in the sand and shut up. This is a general topic forum which is where it should be and obviously there are some people with opinions, anger and concern that should be shared.
 
Posted by 89 306 (Member # 9042) on :
 
haha you said it your self dickwhad..its a public forum..there is no rule about having to type using proper grammer and punctuation..and i agree with u bout addressing the issue but be real man..mexicans arent the only immagrants..so why are u only bashing them down?? what bout the other immagrants??
 
Posted by 9cobra7 (Member # 2812) on :
 
You don't get it and it will be impossible for you to understand I can tell from here on out [Roll Eyes] Your obviously really pissed off at the "white man" but your not a racist are you? Just curious what is your race my friend because you seem to really enjoy the race issue other than what this is about?
 
Posted by 89 306 (Member # 9042) on :
 
im not races at all man...but we all when some one says "illegal immagrants" we know that they are refering to the mexican race..thats why i said what i did..
 
Posted by BlackDrop50 (Member # 1715) on :
 
If you defend illegal immigrants somebody in your family must be one.
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
i hope Arnold gets rid of Welfare.
 
Posted by WildFire532FB (Member # 1482) on :
 
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Originally posted by 89 306:
im not races at all man...but we all when some one says "illegal immagrants" we know that they are refering to the mexican race..thats why i said what i did..

Your not racist at all? lol That was a good joke. If i went off talking shit about a race like you just did i would be labeled a racist. You ARE a racist. You are the reason why racism still exists today. From reading your post i wouldn't be surprised if you made someone who didn't care about color hate your race now. Racism will never go away because of this.
 
Posted by 9cobra7 (Member # 2812) on :
 
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Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
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Originally posted by 89 306:
im not races at all man...but we all when some one says "illegal immagrants" we know that they are refering to the mexican race..thats why i said what i did..

Your not racist at all? lol That was a good joke. If i went off talking shit about a race like you just did i would be labeled a racist. You ARE a racist. You are the reason why racism still exists today. From reading your post i wouldn't be surprised if you made someone who didn't care about color hate your race now. Racism will never go away because of this.
+1 He was also talking about a "toothpick" wife in his post. That's a trophy wife, better than having these fat pigs I see everywhere walking around the mall with there battering ram strollers and 5 kids. Do yourself a favor and save some funds and go to Europe, you won't see anything like what you see here and you'll want to move there....trust me. Being fat here is an accepted epidemic, PATHETIC. Wait I forgot you don't like whites..so nevermind [Eek!]
 
Posted by SHOalex (Member # 7720) on :
 
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Originally posted by 9cobra7:
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Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
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Originally posted by 89 306:
im not races at all man...but we all when some one says "illegal immagrants" we know that they are refering to the mexican race..thats why i said what i did..

Your not racist at all? lol That was a good joke. If i went off talking shit about a race like you just did i would be labeled a racist. You ARE a racist. You are the reason why racism still exists today. From reading your post i wouldn't be surprised if you made someone who didn't care about color hate your race now. Racism will never go away because of this.
+1 He was also talking about a "toothpick" wife in his post. That's a trophy wife, better than having these fat pigs I see everywhere walking around the mall with there battering ram strollers and 5 kids. Do yourself a favor and save some funds and go to Europe, you won't see anything like what you see here and you'll want to move there....trust me. Being fat here is an accepted epidemic, PATHETIC. Wait I forgot you don't like whites..so nevermind [Eek!]
Well this is useless and I hate to post in this stupid ass! old ass thread BUT 9cobra7 are you an idiot? Do you really think a teacher wrote that? ITS PROPAGANDA! hahaha get your head out of your ass. Look every one is a little racist if you say your arent you probably are.

I do belive stereotypes exist for a reason TO AN EXTENT, I judge people by character not by color. Just the way you guys say hey! you said our wifes are toothpicks YOUR the racist ones, Well how do you expect a man to react when you say ALL you damn mexican are fat dont value education get pregnant by 14 thats enough to get anone fired up.

LAST THING you can rant all you want NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO you cant stop the flood of "illegals" coming into the U.S. weather they be mexican or chinese so HAHAHA to you

[patriot] [patriot] god bless america and long live the mustang!
 
Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
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Originally posted by SHOalex:
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Originally posted by 9cobra7:
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Originally posted by WildFire532FB:
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Originally posted by 89 306:
im not races at all man...but we all when some one says "illegal immagrants" we know that they are refering to the mexican race..thats why i said what i did..

Your not racist at all? lol That was a good joke. If i went off talking shit about a race like you just did i would be labeled a racist. You ARE a racist. You are the reason why racism still exists today. From reading your post i wouldn't be surprised if you made someone who didn't care about color hate your race now. Racism will never go away because of this.
+1 He was also talking about a "toothpick" wife in his post. That's a trophy wife, better than having these fat pigs I see everywhere walking around the mall with there battering ram strollers and 5 kids. Do yourself a favor and save some funds and go to Europe, you won't see anything like what you see here and you'll want to move there....trust me. Being fat here is an accepted epidemic, PATHETIC. Wait I forgot you don't like whites..so nevermind [Eek!]
Well this is useless and I hate to post in this stupid ass! old ass thread BUT 9cobra7 are you an idiot? Do you really think a teacher wrote that? ITS PROPAGANDA! hahaha get your head out of your ass. Look every one is a little racist if you say your arent you probably are.

I do belive stereotypes exist for a reason TO AN EXTENT, I judge people by character not by color. Just the way you guys say hey! you said our wifes are toothpicks YOUR the racist ones, Well how do you expect a man to react when you say ALL you damn mexican are fat dont value education get pregnant by 14 thats enough to get anone fired up.

LAST THING you can rant all you want NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO you cant stop the flood of "illegals" coming into the U.S. weather they be mexican or chinese so HAHAHA to you

[patriot] [patriot] god bless america and long live the mustang!

There is definitely not much we can do to stop every illegal immigrant from coming here. BUT our government can stop indirectly giving them incentives to want to come here.

[patriot]
 




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