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Originally posted by Black 02 SS:
I thought Kanye was his homie? haha. Good shit though, about time someone of statue called people out on that auto tune bullshit.

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Its all good to check your homies & tell em they been on some BS & its time to grow a pair. Im pretty sure hes cool with Wayne, T Pain, & all of em, but hes just bein real....


Kind of like, if your boy owned a Terminator, but he painted it pink. You wouldnt be any less his homie if you told em' that sh#t was gay & that he should paint it sonic blue instead... LOL!!!

[ June 29, 2009, 03:58 AM: Message edited by: EPIK ]
 

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Posted by 86- 50 (Member # 4723) on :
 
I like when he said something about bringing back the mixtape lil wayne
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
Umm...I don't like it...it's wack...but thats just IMO The beat is sooooo wack I couldn't even make it past 90sec


edit - but you warned me before I listened to it lol

[ June 29, 2009, 04:21 AM: Message edited by: 90FoX ]
 

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Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
Umm...I don't like it...it's wack...but thats just IMO The beat is sooooo wack I couldn't even make it past 90sec


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Originally posted by 90FoX:
Umm...I don't like it...it's wack...but thats just IMO The beat is sooooo wack I couldn't even make it past 90sec


edit - but you warned me before I listened to it lol

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Exactly... i told you guys that if you only like slumped out hyphy yay area sh#t, you wouldnt like it... IMO, both the track & the lyrics are hard, but I am an open minded individual & I like everything from Mac Dre to Mos Def....

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BTW - I don't like "hyphy shit" or "commercial pop"


edit - well maybe some "hyphy shit"

I never really like JayZ before, very few songs from him I like. I personally like NAS a LOT more.

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Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 

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Originally posted by 90FoX:

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Originally posted by EPIK:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
Umm...I don't like it...it's wack...but thats just IMO The beat is sooooo wack I couldn't even make it past 90sec


edit - but you warned me before I listened to it lol

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Exactly... i told you guys that if you only like slumped out hyphy yay area sh#t, you wouldnt like it... IMO, both the track & the lyrics are hard, but I am an open minded individual & I like everything from Mac Dre to Mos Def....

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BTW - I don't like "hyphy shit" or "commercial pop"


edit - well maybe some "hyphy shit"

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My bad... What do you like then? I will admit, it is not the best beat I have heard Jay use, but I still like it. But, lyrically, I love it because I feel where hes coming from because the new music is sooooo watered down with that auto tune BS!!!

[ June 29, 2009, 04:32 AM: Message edited by: EPIK ]
 

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Posted by fastertoys1 (Member # 5270) on :
 
that beat was just as hard as the lyrics....
 

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Posted by essasin (Member # 4741) on :
 
That is another great track from Jay-Z.

What is happening with auto-tone or electronic editing is not always a bad thing. It does go against the traditional rap/hip hop fundamentals but because it's different does not make it wrong.

If you look back in the 1900's composers started to write with dissonance and atonal music. Popular composers thought that it was just a bunch of crap noise because it was the complete opposite of what was considered fundamental music at the time. Today, tonality is as much apart of music as is tonal writing.

Even what we call the modern day piano, saxophone, trumpet, etc has changed overtime to produce a different sound to what it originally was. The sax was designed and first to be used for a military band, and many years later a guy named Kenny G would not only play an evolved variation of the sax (which totally changed the timber of the original saxophone) but popularized it playing love songs. It's a far fetch from is military roots.

Instead of saying death to auto-tone he should have made a song titled "It is what it is" because it's what a sector of rap/hip hop has developed into. Either way, I do agree it 's crap but musically someone out there enjoys it and there is nothing wrong about that.
 

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Posted by Eddie510- (Member # 2354) on :
 
OMG! i give this a fuckin 10+!!!!!! THIS IS WHAT YOU CALL REAL MUSIC! thanks for the the update!
 

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
FINALLY!!!

Someone needs to BANN LIL WAYNE FROM RAPPING (singing, laughing ??) or whatever he does when he records.

LIL WAYNE IS a disgrace to Hip Hop!! Its so irritating how he rhymes, laughs, and that auto tune bullshit.

I wish Tupac was still here to rip these sesame street ass rappers
 

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Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
lil Wayne was tight when he was a hot boy. Now its a crap shoot if I like his music. Kanye is really bad for the game IMO. He is weak, does nothing innovative and doesn't write his material. I think once Jay Z steps away there will be a gaping hole in Rap. I know there is always underground. But its the visible artists that keep rap alive. And right now I just cannot think of one artist who I would actually buy their record without hearing it first because I know they spit heat rocks. I mean there is Jada Kiss and Eminem but they cannot seem to put rap on their backs like Jay Z did. And his performance at the end of the BET awards was off the hook IMO.

I like the song.
 

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Posted by 86- 50 (Member # 4723) on :
 

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Originally posted by N8:
lil Wayne was tight when he was a hot boy. Now its a crap shoot if I like his music. Kanye is really bad for the game IMO. He is weak, does nothing innovative and doesn't write his material. I think once Jay Z steps away there will be a gaping hole in Rap. I know there is always underground. But its the visible artists that keep rap alive. And right now I just cannot think of one artist who I would actually buy their record without hearing it first because I know they spit heat rocks. I mean there is Jada Kiss and Eminem but they cannot seem to put rap on their backs like Jay Z did. And his performance at the end of the BET awards was off the hook IMO.

I like the song.

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Kanye is bad for the game , he is by far the best beat maker in the game right now, who do you think made every beat for jay-z's blue print album
 

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Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 

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Originally posted by 86- 50:

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Originally posted by N8:
lil Wayne was tight when he was a hot boy. Now its a crap shoot if I like his music. Kanye is really bad for the game IMO. He is weak, does nothing innovative and doesn't write his material. I think once Jay Z steps away there will be a gaping hole in Rap. I know there is always underground. But its the visible artists that keep rap alive. And right now I just cannot think of one artist who I would actually buy their record without hearing it first because I know they spit heat rocks. I mean there is Jada Kiss and Eminem but they cannot seem to put rap on their backs like Jay Z did. And his performance at the end of the BET awards was off the hook IMO.

I like the song.

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Kanye is bad for the game , he is by far the best beat maker in the game right now, who do you think made every beat for jay-z's blue print album

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Rap Game. As a rapper he is doo-doo. I am well aware that he has been producing for quite sometime. That is where he needs to stay.
 

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Posted by CALIFORNIAGT (Member # 7845) on :
 
both those rappers are wack! when mc hammer coming back and villina ice
 

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Posted by 86- 50 (Member # 4723) on :
 

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Originally posted by 86- 50:

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Originally posted by N8:
lil Wayne was tight when he was a hot boy. Now its a crap shoot if I like his music. Kanye is really bad for the game IMO. He is weak, does nothing innovative and doesn't write his material. I think once Jay Z steps away there will be a gaping hole in Rap. I know there is always underground. But its the visible artists that keep rap alive. And right now I just cannot think of one artist who I would actually buy their record without hearing it first because I know they spit heat rocks. I mean there is Jada Kiss and Eminem but they cannot seem to put rap on their backs like Jay Z did. And his performance at the end of the BET awards was off the hook IMO.

I like the song.

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Kanye is bad for the game , he is by far the best beat maker in the game right now, who do you think made every beat for jay-z's blue print album

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Rap Game. As a rapper he is doo-doo. I am well aware that he has been producing for quite sometime. That is where he needs to stay.

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Oh ok, but you said bad for the game, and also if you havn't heard his second album you should listen to it, it might change your mind.
 

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Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 

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Originally posted by 86- 50:

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Originally posted by N8:

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Originally posted by 86- 50:

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Originally posted by N8:
lil Wayne was tight when he was a hot boy. Now its a crap shoot if I like his music. Kanye is really bad for the game IMO. He is weak, does nothing innovative and doesn't write his material. I think once Jay Z steps away there will be a gaping hole in Rap. I know there is always underground. But its the visible artists that keep rap alive. And right now I just cannot think of one artist who I would actually buy their record without hearing it first because I know they spit heat rocks. I mean there is Jada Kiss and Eminem but they cannot seem to put rap on their backs like Jay Z did. And his performance at the end of the BET awards was off the hook IMO.

I like the song.

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Kanye is bad for the game , he is by far the best beat maker in the game right now, who do you think made every beat for jay-z's blue print album

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Rap Game. As a rapper he is doo-doo. I am well aware that he has been producing for quite sometime. That is where he needs to stay.

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Oh ok, but you said bad for the game, and also if you havn't heard his second album you should listen to it, it might change your mind.

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Well I did say "write his material"

Kanye is weak sauce, just the thought he don't write his stuff turns me off. I wanna like him, but soon as words roll off his tongue that thought goes all out the window.
 

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Posted by 86- 50 (Member # 4723) on :
 
You'll be surprized how many artist have ghost writers, practally all of them have someone writing for them one way or the other.
 

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Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 

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Originally posted by 86- 50:
You'll be surprized how many artist have ghost writers, practally all of them have someone writing for them one way or the other.

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Originally posted by rmadison007:
So who ghost writes for Kanye? or does he not write his lyrics like Wayne and Jay? Wayne changed the game. Name another rapper that leaks all his material, good and bad, for everyone to hear and judge. I bet if we heard every song Jadakiss, Eminem, or your favorite rapper spit in the booth they wouldn't make the same impact as Wayne. It one thing to be graded on your best, it another to be graded on everything even you rough drafts. Jay is great, but Wayne, Drake, and Kanye are carrying the game right now. Even Jay understands that. In his third verse he shots them out.

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Originally posted by N8:
lil Wayne was tight when he was a hot boy. Now its a crap shoot if I like his music. Kanye is really bad for the game IMO. He is weak, does nothing innovative and doesn't write his material. I think once Jay Z steps away there will be a gaping hole in Rap. I know there is always underground. But its the visible artists that keep rap alive. And right now I just cannot think of one artist who I would actually buy their record without hearing it first because I know they spit heat rocks. I mean there is Jada Kiss and Eminem but they cannot seem to put rap on their backs like Jay Z did. And his performance at the end of the BET awards was off the hook IMO.

I like the song.

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Kanye is bad for the game , he is by far the best beat maker in the game right now, who do you think made every beat for jay-z's blue print album

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Originally posted by slowback67:
I like that he called out these Wack ass rapers...... I have never liked jay z but I don't mind this one to much..... Anyone who wants to talk about songs with good lyrics needs to listen to "life's a bitch"

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Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
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I think once you become a artist that only have a sprinkling of good songs here and there. I think in totality you become garbage. Long gone are the days when you buy a persons album based on trust. You now have artists that you only feel comfortable buying 1 song here and there on itunes or what have you. Hate to sound old but I think that is crippling the industry. We all know there will not be another Pac, but hell just have some substance to your music. I agree that Kanye as a producer is great. but when you say lyrically a person is just "good" then say this person is holding down rap, that is just a slap in the face.

And I still do not know who Drake is...lol. I'll go home and ask my kids about him.

One thing I will say is Wayne is a genius in that he is saturating the market with himself. Like Master P did in the late 90's. He forced himself and his artists on you. I remember when I went to the record store and that fool had a whole section of just him and his artists. Wayne is doing a bit of the same. he is on everything and is everywhere. Very smart.

[ June 29, 2009, 01:00 PM: Message edited by: N8 ]
 

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Posted by 427 StRoKeR 94 GT (Member # 8722) on :
 
THe beat and the lyrics go hard
 

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Posted by 427 StRoKeR 94 GT (Member # 8722) on :
 

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Originally posted by rmadison007:
So who ghost writes for Kanye? or does he not write his lyrics like Wayne and Jay? Wayne changed the game. Name another rapper that leaks all his material, good and bad, for everyone to hear and judge. I bet if we heard every song Jadakiss, Eminem, or your favorite rapper spit in the booth they wouldn't make the same impact as Wayne. It one thing to be graded on your best, it another to be graded on everything even you rough drafts. Jay is great, but Wayne, Drake, and Kanye are carrying the game right now. Even Jay understands that. In his third verse he shots them out.

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I dont even know who drake is...lol. Wayne I can more or less agree with you. He is a New Orleans product so I gotta by default be biased. Lately tho, his stuff stinks. Its hit or miss with me. Now when he was with Juvie, BG and those dudes. Yes i would buy his album sight unseen because his music was the truth. I dunno man, I am a little older so I expect more honesty in music and less gimmick. I like music I can feel not hear. If those 3 can carry the game that lets you know right now the game is in bad shape. kinda like the heavyweight division in boxing.

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Posted by 91silverbullet (Member # 8668) on :
 
Not my job by mac dre..
 

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Posted by 50 Deep (Member # 6216) on :
 
Drake is sounding real nice right now. That song "you the best" and "successful" are two of my top songs to bump.

But back on kanye and wayne I can guarantee I will find two good joints for every bad one. But college drop out & graduation are two albums I can play from almost start to finsh. 808's & heart break has its moments. The carter series isn't bad either.
 

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Posted by slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 

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Not my job by mac dre..

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The biggest thang since the TV invention....

C Bo's deadly game song lyrics's are good to ( it was written by x raided )
 

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Posted by scoop510 (Member # 8726) on :
 
Not a JAY-Z fan but it was about time for someone to check this so what called "rap game". i don't like listening to the radio sounds like a bunch of "in love robots" and i specially don't like songs that rap about being in love and then being on the corner hustlin at the end of the song that shit is hoot.

but this is song ill give Jay-Z props for the lyrics and the meaning for the song
 

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 

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Originally posted by 50 Deep:
Lyrically I have always liked jay z. Reasonable doubt has always been the hardest album I have heard so far. DOA will be a track that changes some things and a lot of opinons people have on the current hip-hip game or lack there of.

However when yall say kanye & wayne are wack yall trippn. The stuff you hear on the radio is far from the totallity of their ability. Those tracks are made just for the radio. Lil waynes freestyle ability and mix-tape raps are DOPE. Kanye makes beats that are way fresh and doesn't do bad lyrically himself. College dropout and graduation were good albums. Have you heard the song "roses" by kanye or "tie my hands" my lil wayne? Those tracks are far from garbage.

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Originally posted by 50 Deep:
Lyrically I have always liked jay z. Reasonable doubt has always been the hardest album I have heard so far. DOA will be a track that changes some things and a lot of opinons people have on the current hip-hip game or lack there of.

However when yall say kanye & wayne are wack yall trippn. The stuff you hear on the radio is far from the totallity of their ability. Those tracks are made just for the radio. Lil waynes freestyle ability and mix-tape raps are DOPE. Kanye makes beats that are way fresh and doesn't do bad lyrically himself. College dropout and graduation were good albums. Have you heard the song "roses" by kanye or "tie my hands" my lil wayne? Those tracks are far from garbage.

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Everyone has their own taste in music, but to me Lil Wayne is GARBAGE.

I agree he was coming out with good shit back in the 90s and early 00s but after he hit the mainstream pop style, his dedication to hop/hop dropped.


Anyone ever heard of Gillie The Kid? He use to work close with Lil Wayne.. Watch this..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHffFMmwndU


And even if he can flow or do whatever, why would you waste your energy in making these garbage radio tracks?

The only rapper/r&b thats in the mainstream that i listen to is Lupe Fiasco..

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Gillie is a clown, home boy is a hater! if he was as tight as he say he is and as rich "80 vvs this 80 vvs that" then he would have a deal! dudes a lame! think about this, if i had a mill, in my mouth alone..........you can bet your bottem doller that i wouldnt be in the hood kickin it with "real gangsta niggas"! you can find me at the hamptons pullin hoes........not lookin over my sholder!
aside from that lame, i cant wait till waynes comeback to jay z, its gunna be a blood bath! jay is washed up, hows he gunna retire 20 times!!!! and then come back to talk shit!!!!

N8, about your pac comment, check game homie............no foreals Game!!! if your realy a pac fan you will see young pac in him!!!!

yall can talk as much shit as you want but, wayne is doing just what a smart money man would do.
 

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Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
Actually I do not see much Pac in the Game at all. But I do like Game. But Game is still a rapper, not an artist (IMO).

And with the current landscape of rap, Jay Z can retire 100 times and still come back and torch these clowns. If Wayne was smart he would take that diss with a grain of salt and keep steppin. To me there are 2 people in the game you dont wanna battle. That is Jay-Z and Eminem, with their skills and access to the limelight you just dont wanna do it. Jay will murder Lil Weenie on track.

As far as staying in the hood with money, some dudes are just built like that. The ghetto sometimes can be a disease, a dependency. I just wish they would do something positive with the money like investing in the hood. So I would not knock a person from not wanting to move to the Hamptons or what have you.
 

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Posted by Ham&Eggs (Member # 8967) on :
 
for what it's worth, als50 hooked me up with 2 artists to listen too. Not the mainstream shit thats on the radio now. Johnny Madwreck & JazzAddixx give it a try.
 

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Posted by Blue Oval (Member # 2548) on :
 
Here you go N8

Weezy & Gucci Mane-we be steady mobbin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXiJRBGR4UM

weezy & DRAKE-im goin in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8N7L9JJ4Zw

drake-congradulations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-FbmLHqVao

[ June 29, 2009, 04:12 PM: Message edited by: Blue Oval ]
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 

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Here you go N8
Weezy & Gucci Mane-we be steady mobbin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXiJRBGR4UM

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"If you act foul you get two shots ANNNNND one, I'm at your face like mans cum, you niggas softer than rosannes son, you cannot reach me on my samsung I busy fuckin the world and givin the universe my damn tongue." lmao!!

This fool always comes with some clean ass lyrics...imho

edit - listen to this Back On My Grizzy His lyrics are sick

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 

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Originally posted by 50 Deep:
Lyrically I have always liked jay z. Reasonable doubt has always been the hardest album I have heard so far. DOA will be a track that changes some things and a lot of opinons people have on the current hip-hip game or lack there of.

However when yall say kanye & wayne are wack yall trippn. The stuff you hear on the radio is far from the totallity of their ability. Those tracks are made just for the radio. Lil waynes freestyle ability and mix-tape raps are DOPE. Kanye makes beats that are way fresh and doesn't do bad lyrically himself. College dropout and graduation were good albums. Have you heard the song "roses" by kanye or "tie my hands" my lil wayne? Those tracks are far from garbage.

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Everyone has their own taste in music, but to me Lil Wayne is GARBAGE.

I agree he was coming out with good shit back in the 90s and early 00s but after he hit the mainstream pop style, his dedication to hop/hop dropped.


Anyone ever heard of Gillie The Kid? He use to work close with Lil Wayne.. Watch this..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHffFMmwndU


And even if he can flow or do whatever, why would you waste your energy in making these garbage radio tracks?

The only rapper/r&b thats in the mainstream that i listen to is Lupe Fiasco..

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Gillie is a clown, home boy is a hater! if he was as tight as he say he is and as rich "80 vvs this 80 vvs that" then he would have a deal! dudes a lame! think about this, if i had a mill, in my mouth alone..........you can bet your bottem doller that i wouldnt be in the hood kickin it with "real gangsta niggas"! you can find me at the hamptons pullin hoes........not lookin over my sholder!
aside from that lame, i cant wait till waynes comeback to jay z, its gunna be a blood bath! jay is washed up, hows he gunna retire 20 times!!!! and then come back to talk shit!!!!

N8, about your pac comment, check game homie............no foreals Game!!! if your realy a pac fan you will see young pac in him!!!!

yall can talk as much shit as you want but, wayne is doing just what a smart money man would do.

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Gillie the kid was implying to Lil Wayne's diss.. Lil wayne pretends to be gangsta gangsta on most of his tracks..

Obviously Lil wayne didnt diss back cuz he knew gillie was on point
 

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 

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Originally posted by fr5.0:

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Originally posted by AL STOCK:

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Originally posted by 50 Deep:
Lyrically I have always liked jay z. Reasonable doubt has always been the hardest album I have heard so far. DOA will be a track that changes some things and a lot of opinons people have on the current hip-hip game or lack there of.

However when yall say kanye & wayne are wack yall trippn. The stuff you hear on the radio is far from the totallity of their ability. Those tracks are made just for the radio. Lil waynes freestyle ability and mix-tape raps are DOPE. Kanye makes beats that are way fresh and doesn't do bad lyrically himself. College dropout and graduation were good albums. Have you heard the song "roses" by kanye or "tie my hands" my lil wayne? Those tracks are far from garbage.

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Everyone has their own taste in music, but to me Lil Wayne is GARBAGE.

I agree he was coming out with good shit back in the 90s and early 00s but after he hit the mainstream pop style, his dedication to hop/hop dropped.


Anyone ever heard of Gillie The Kid? He use to work close with Lil Wayne.. Watch this..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHffFMmwndU


And even if he can flow or do whatever, why would you waste your energy in making these garbage radio tracks?

The only rapper/r&b thats in the mainstream that i listen to is Lupe Fiasco..

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Gillie is a clown, home boy is a hater! if he was as tight as he say he is and as rich "80 vvs this 80 vvs that" then he would have a deal! dudes a lame! think about this, if i had a mill, in my mouth alone..........you can bet your bottem doller that i wouldnt be in the hood kickin it with "real gangsta niggas"! you can find me at the hamptons pullin hoes........not lookin over my sholder!
aside from that lame, i cant wait till waynes comeback to jay z, its gunna be a blood bath! jay is washed up, hows he gunna retire 20 times!!!! and then come back to talk shit!!!!

N8, about your pac comment, check game homie............no foreals Game!!! if your realy a pac fan you will see young pac in him!!!!

yall can talk as much shit as you want but, wayne is doing just what a smart money man would do.

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Originally posted by 50 Deep:
Lyrically I have always liked jay z. Reasonable doubt has always been the hardest album I have heard so far. DOA will be a track that changes some things and a lot of opinons people have on the current hip-hip game or lack there of.

However when yall say kanye & wayne are wack yall trippn. The stuff you hear on the radio is far from the totallity of their ability. Those tracks are made just for the radio. Lil waynes freestyle ability and mix-tape raps are DOPE. Kanye makes beats that are way fresh and doesn't do bad lyrically himself. College dropout and graduation were good albums. Have you heard the song "roses" by kanye or "tie my hands" my lil wayne? Those tracks are far from garbage.

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Everyone has their own taste in music, but to me Lil Wayne is GARBAGE.

I agree he was coming out with good shit back in the 90s and early 00s but after he hit the mainstream pop style, his dedication to hop/hop dropped.


Anyone ever heard of Gillie The Kid? He use to work close with Lil Wayne.. Watch this..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHffFMmwndU


And even if he can flow or do whatever, why would you waste your energy in making these garbage radio tracks?

The only rapper/r&b thats in the mainstream that i listen to is Lupe Fiasco..

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Gillie is a clown, home boy is a hater! if he was as tight as he say he is and as rich "80 vvs this 80 vvs that" then he would have a deal! dudes a lame! think about this, if i had a mill, in my mouth alone..........you can bet your bottem doller that i wouldnt be in the hood kickin it with "real gangsta niggas"! you can find me at the hamptons pullin hoes........not lookin over my sholder!
aside from that lame, i cant wait till waynes comeback to jay z, its gunna be a blood bath! jay is washed up, hows he gunna retire 20 times!!!! and then come back to talk shit!!!!

N8, about your pac comment, check game homie............no foreals Game!!! if your realy a pac fan you will see young pac in him!!!!

yall can talk as much shit as you want but, wayne is doing just what a smart money man would do.

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Did you say seeing Pac in GAME?! WTF, that strip dancer ass cry baby who got booted from GUNIT?????!!!! That butterfly tattoed on his left cheek? thats the most ignorant shit ever..

The game is WACK

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Originally posted by Blue Oval:
Here you go N8

Weezy & Gucci Mane-we be steady mobbin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXiJRBGR4UM

weezy & DRAKE-im goin in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8N7L9JJ4Zw

drake-congradulations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-FbmLHqVao

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Originally posted by rmadison007:
For clarification, Jay has already addressed the song and its context when it came out 3 weeks ago. He said that he was addressing everyone except Weezy, Kanye, and T-Pain and if he wanted to do an autotune record he would only do it with them. He wants other rappers to become more creative and let T-Pain, Wayne, and Kanye keep the autotune niche.

Eminem is a fantastic lyricist, but his lack of versatility has allowed the music industry to pass him up. Just like 50 cent, they allowed Dr. Dre to dictate the production and fell into making the same music and same formula that just seems old today. The longevity of an artist comes from being able to reinvent themselves. Jay-Z is a far different rapper from the begining of his career when he rapped like Twista. Even Wayne changed from being a hot boy to who he is today. Honestly Wayne vs Jay-Z is a toss up and so is Wayne vs Eminem. Until you actually do your research and listen to all of Wayne's stuff, Commercial and Mixtape, you can not accurately compare him to the lyrically elite, but he even has some commericial stuff that is ridiculous. Namely the verse he did for DJ Khaled in we taking over. I think they are all 1a, 1b, or 1c.

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Originally posted by rmadison007:
Gillie the kid has been saying this stuff for ages. He is trying to get on like 50 cent. He makes accusations about the hottest rapper out trying to get shine so people will pay attention to him and eventually draw buzz enough to land a major label deal. Wayne does not ever respond to people dissin. Remember the kissing picture, 50 cent called him out, and the clipse. That is the reason 50 pushed back his album because he wanted to generate buzz from a beef with the hottest in the game and couldn't. Just like when he started shit wit kanye and ja rule.

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Originally posted by AL STOCK:

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Originally posted by rmadison007:
Gillie the kid has been saying this stuff for ages. He is trying to get on like 50 cent. He makes accusations about the hottest rapper out trying to get shine so people will pay attention to him and eventually draw buzz enough to land a major label deal. Wayne does not ever respond to people dissin. Remember the kissing picture, 50 cent called him out, and the clipse. That is the reason 50 pushed back his album because he wanted to generate buzz from a beef with the hottest in the game and couldn't. Just like when he started shit wit kanye and ja rule.

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I don't think Lil Wayne is on the diss level yet, i think he doesnt have the lyrcial potential to diss folks. He would start singing, laughing crying while dissing someone...

He needs to decide wether to be a pop singer or a rapper...

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Originally posted by SPIDER_STANG:
Wayne is not trying to be the best lyrical rapper your approval of his lyrics dosent mean anything to him!!! He is about MONEY!!! & even thoe he cant hold .2cents to Jay Z lyrics, He's making head lines with his show!!! LoL So thats making him alot of MONEY!!! He's on everyone's album right now getting paid!!! He might not be around for a very long time but he is trying to get every cent out their while he has the stage!!! So the more crazy & weird he gets the more people want to see him perform!! Like last night on the BET awards!! Why would you have 3 little girls on the stage with you but sing the song I want 2 fuck every woman in the World?? He got bleeped many times!!! Not cool but I still like his music!! LoL

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Originally posted by SPIDER_STANG:
Wayne is not trying to be the best lyrical rapper your approval of his lyrics dosent mean anything to him!!! He is about MONEY!!! & even thoe he cant hold .2cents to Jay Z lyrics, He's making head lines with his show!!! LoL So thats making him alot of MONEY!!! He's on everyone's album right now getting paid!!! He might not be around for a very long time but he is trying to get every cent out their while he has the stage!!! So the more crazy & weird he gets the more people want to see him perform!! Like last night on the BET awards!! Why would you have 3 little girls on the stage with you but sing the song I want 2 fuck every woman in the World?? He got bleeped many times!!! Not cool but I still like his music!! LoL

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Originally posted by fastertoys1:
that beat was just as hard as the lyrics....

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Which wasn't at all
 

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Posted by TrueBlue (Member # 1063) on :
 
Yeah i'm not feeling it either then again I never really liked much of Jay Z's stuff but I would like to download his wife!
 

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Posted by slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
Almost all of the new rap/hip hop music sucks.
Just because I like bay area rappers doesn't mean that I'm dated.... Jay z tried to retire after ten years too short is still rappin' still making money. I think rap has slowly been going down hill......If you could go back in time 15 years and play a new song from today... It would more then likely get laugh at.

You can't knock old school rappers like eric b and. Rakim and stuff... He had the best verse on the clasics song IMO
 

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Posted by 04 S281 (Member # 9229) on :
 

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Originally posted by slowback67:
Almost all of the new rap/hip hop music sucks.

I think rap has slowly been going down hill......

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Originally posted by 04 S281:

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Originally posted by slowback67:
Almost all of the new rap/hip hop music sucks.

I think rap has slowly been going down hill......

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+1

AND i hate all the frontin... drake would be a lot better if he stopped claiming he is gangster. his first name is aubrey, and he grew up in one of the richest surburbs in toronto with his white jewish mother. times must have been tough.

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Hey watch out for them Jewish moms... They will slap you up side your yamica for getting a B+ GPA
 

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Posted by Eddie510- (Member # 2354) on :
 
"yall niggas jeans too tight,colors too bright,your voice too light , I might wear black 4 years straight!"
 

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Posted by its50 (Member # 4069) on :
 
woooow i love it.best thing i heard since runnin out by o-solo where is disses everyone that got wak ass songs that the play on the radio.dude is a str8 beast he even has a song on madden 06 i think it is called imma beast.and wayne is wak now nothin like he use to be.im finishing up a song im writting right now called rappers cemetery and im killing just lookin for the right beat for it so i can record it.but good post epik love that shit right there.i even like the beat to.i listen to music in diff way i hear shit most people dont...i know u know what im sayin epik.not the best beat in the world but it is dope...and like diss u killed that to dog i was on your myspace page thats a hot hot 1 right there
 

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Posted by 88DroptopGT (Member # 2535) on :
 
People gotta understand that artists will do anything for publicity and money.

Whether it's bling bling, stunnas, hennessy, weed, bape, auto-tune, scrapers, etc. People will keep rapping about that shit until it gets played out to make MONEY.

Talking shit to other rappers will make publicity as well. Even bad publicity is still publicity.

I agree with some of the things Jay-Z says but why doesn't he actually retire? He never will he just says that to build up hype IMO.
 

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Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 

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Originally posted by its50:
woooow i love it.best thing i heard since runnin out by o-solo where is disses everyone that got wak ass songs that the play on the radio.dude is a str8 beast he even has a song on madden 06 i think it is called imma beast.and wayne is wak now nothin like he use to be.im finishing up a song im writting right now called rappers cemetery and im killing just lookin for the right beat for it so i can record it.but good post epik love that shit right there.i even like the beat to.i listen to music in diff way i hear shit most people dont...i know u know what im sayin epik.not the best beat in the world but it is dope...and like diss u killed that to dog i was on your myspace page thats a hot hot 1 right there

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Right on bro... Thanks. That "LIKE DISS" beat is one of my newer tracks. There should be some vocals on it shortly...

I hear what your sayin too, I listen to music in different ways, since I am a producer/musician myself...
 

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Posted by SSSSIKH (Member # 8397) on :
 
i've always like jay-z since day 1...

hes just like "another" pac, since he just always spits it so real!

and i agree todays music is so watered down, its embarassing!

my ipod is full of music from the 90's, cuz IMO that was real hip hop....

thanks for posting dustin!
 

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Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
I can't stand JayZ and I can't stand that song. How is it doing on the charts?

Sorry man, not hatin, just can't get into it.

Im even eclectic so..............

Here is a classic.

Yeah, im gettin old

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeMKM-eQPB4
 

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Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
or this:::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3LaaYNuFfA&feature=channel_page
 

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Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 

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Originally posted by SSSSIKH:
i've always like jay-z since day 1...

hes just like "another" pac, since he just always spits it so real!

and i agree todays music is so watered down, its embarassing!

my ipod is full of music from the 90's, cuz IMO that was real hip hop....

thanks for posting dustin!

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Originally posted by turbo50:
or this:::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3LaaYNuFfA&feature=channel_page

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LMFAO!!!!!!

 

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Posted by Eddie510- (Member # 2354) on :
 

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Originally posted by 91silverbullet:

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Originally posted by turbo50:
or this:::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3LaaYNuFfA&feature=channel_page

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LMFAO!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Eddie510-:

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Originally posted by 91silverbullet:

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Originally posted by turbo50:
or this:::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3LaaYNuFfA&feature=channel_page

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LMFAO!!!!!!

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lmaooo omg fucking turbo50.lolol

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WTF??? Is that Russian?
 

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Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
Something about this topic made me slap this while at the gym.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFErj2fZrLM

This to me is about when Rap was at its peak. Everyone was delivering heat. I had just moved back to Cali and this was the slap.
 

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Posted by Eddie510- (Member # 2354) on :
 
how about this one old school bayarea shit. Alot of people dont know about them 5150...... bump a bitch

they made a 5.0 mustang song back in the 90's aswell called "PONY EXPRESS" PONY EXPRESS

[ June 30, 2009, 12:54 AM: Message edited by: Eddie510- ]
 

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Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
Oh I forgot to add I have some brotha lynch on my Zune too
 

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Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 

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Originally posted by N8:
Oh I forgot to add I have some brotha lynch on my Zune too

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Brotha Lynch!!!


Sactown pioneer....

Hey N8, u should check out the rack I produced for Lynch....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiQOsw-CsbA
 

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Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 

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Originally posted by EPIK:

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Originally posted by N8:
Oh I forgot to add I have some brotha lynch on my Zune too

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Brotha Lynch!!!


Sactown pioneer....

Hey N8, u should check out the rack I produced for Lynch....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiQOsw-CsbA

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Originally posted by N8:

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Originally posted by EPIK:

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Originally posted by N8:
Oh I forgot to add I have some brotha lynch on my Zune too

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Brotha Lynch!!!


Sactown pioneer....

Hey N8, u should check out the rack I produced for Lynch....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiQOsw-CsbA

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Yea, Lynch was my first exposure to West coast rap really. My cousin picked me up from the airport bumping some baby eating shit and I was like wtf? But that shit stuck with me after a while. Lynch is rough, he needs a better camp tho.

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Originally posted by N8:
Something about this topic made me slap this while at the gym.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFErj2fZrLM

This to me is about when Rap was at its peak. Everyone was delivering heat. I had just moved back to Cali and this was the slap.

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
anyone pick up that "tear gas" yet?

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Originally posted by 04 S281:
I dunno, i've always thought X-Raided was one of the hardest rappers i've ever heard. I mean it doesn't get much more real IMO... that fool is gangsta...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5uejJxNCnc

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Macaframa!!! =
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 

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Originally posted by its50:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
anyone pick up that "tear gas" yet?

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dont got it but i was listening to it today in my cousins ipod touch...pretty nice for some bay shit.i dont really bump alot of it but looks like he might put a lil time into that.

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Hell yea he did. Been hearing about that shit for a minute now. Release was delayed hella times or hella long. Can't wait to pick it up, I just have no time to drive so far to the nearest rasputin

I heard through the grapevine, , that best buy stocks bay shit?

Can anyone confirm this? Because I live near a best beezy and can swoop a copy from there
 

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Posted by its50 (Member # 4069) on :
 
yeah they should have it.they have alot of independent shit there i didnt know till i was picking up some cds
 

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Posted by its50 (Member # 4069) on :
 

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Originally posted by its50:
yeah they should have it.they have alot of independent shit there i didnt know till i was picking up some cds

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Originally posted by fr5.0:
omg you guys are such homos and jay is a nerd, hes like low budget or somethin! i think any one can rap hella slow off the top of there dome, oh and who ever said jada was tight your gay, "ha ha dee block" i think that stands for "dick"!

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You voted for Bush and think Game is the next Pac. Just when I thought you and I were getting on the same page. You go and say Jada Kiss does not have flows and JayZ is weak. I can handle your political views but I cant handle your hip hop views.
 

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 

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Originally posted by fr5.0:
omg you guys are such homos and jay is a nerd, hes like low budget or somethin! i think any one can rap hella slow off the top of there dome, oh and who ever said jada was tight your gay, "ha ha dee block" i think that stands for "dick"!

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Stick to your political arguments
 

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Posted by slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
Jadakiss is a good raper.... One of the better of the east coast... Still think overall that the west coast has done better song's starting from the early years of rap. Even with a short time rapping 2pac is one of the most well known, mac dre was blowing up, who doesn't know too short, E-40, dr.dre, snoop, mac-10, ice cube, ice-t ...... He list goes on. We had the late80's and early 90's on lock
 

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Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 

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Originally posted by slowback67:
Jadakiss is a good raper.... One of the better of the east coast... Still think overall that the west coast has done better song's starting from the early years of rap. Even with a short time rapping 2pac is one of the most well known, mac dre was blowing up, who doesn't know too short, E-40, dr.dre, snoop, mac-10, ice cube, ice-t ...... He list goes on. We had the late80's and early 90's on lock

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Originally posted by N8:

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Originally posted by fr5.0:
omg you guys are such homos and jay is a nerd, hes like low budget or somethin! i think any one can rap hella slow off the top of there dome, oh and who ever said jada was tight your gay, "ha ha dee block" i think that stands for "dick"!

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You voted for Bush and think Game is the next Pac. Just when I thought you and I were getting on the same page. You go and say Jada Kiss does not have flows and JayZ is weak. I can handle your political views but I cant handle your hip hop views.

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edit - not the thread for this discussion...lol

[ June 30, 2009, 05:06 PM: Message edited by: 90FoX ]
 

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Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
hahaha, thanks. Because I was just pulling FR's leg.
 

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Posted by 93EXCHP (Member # 8741) on :
 

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
anyone pick up that "tear gas" yet?

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I never picked it up but I've listened to most of it and it SLAPS
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 

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Originally posted by N8:
hahaha, thanks. Because I was just pulling FR's leg.

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Posted by 93EXCHP (Member # 8741) on :
 

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Originally posted by 90FoX:

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Originally posted by N8:
hahaha, thanks. Because I was just pulling FR's leg.

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90FoX is there ever a time your not post whoring?
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 

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Originally posted by 93EXCHP:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
anyone pick up that "tear gas" yet?

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I never picked it up but I've listened to most of it and it SLAPS

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I wouldn't doubt it. All the albums Jacka puts out are bomb. Literally every single song is sick, I wouldn't expect any less of tear gas...can't wait to pick it up...lifes to busy post whoring on here with you my hoe friend
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 

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Originally posted by 93EXCHP:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:

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Originally posted by N8:
hahaha, thanks. Because I was just pulling FR's leg.

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90FoX is there ever a time your not post whoring?

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That's not whoring....is it?

The smiley says what I would have said if I was typing. So it's easier and quicker to use the shmmmilee
 

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Posted by 93EXCHP (Member # 8741) on :
 

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Originally posted by 90FoX:

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Originally posted by 93EXCHP:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
anyone pick up that "tear gas" yet?

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I never picked it up but I've listened to most of it and it SLAPS

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I wouldn't doubt it. All the albums Jacka puts out are bomb. Literally every single song is sick, I wouldn't expect any less of tear gas...can't wait to pick it up...lifes to busy post whoring on here with you my hoe friend

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Foreal I'm listenin to "they don't know" and fuck this shit is sick!
 

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Posted by 93EXCHP (Member # 8741) on :
 

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Originally posted by 90FoX:

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Originally posted by 93EXCHP:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:

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Originally posted by N8:
hahaha, thanks. Because I was just pulling FR's leg.

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90FoX is there ever a time your not post whoring?

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That's not whoring....is it?

The smiley says what I would have said if I was typing. So it's easier and quicker to use the shmmmilee

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Then that explains everything it's not post whoring anymore
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
With freeway from the JayZ camp.... Tear Gas - They Don't Know
 

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Posted by 93EXCHP (Member # 8741) on :
 

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
With freeway from the JayZ camp.... Tear Gas - They Don't Know

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Yup that one right there! Straight SLAPS
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
This one kills that shit.

My favorite song on the cd from what I've heard thus far



Callin My Name



This song right here shits on that Jay-Z track major....donkee doo doo

[ June 30, 2009, 06:06 PM: Message edited by: 90FoX ]
 

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Posted by 93EXCHP (Member # 8741) on :
 

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
This one kills that shit.

My favorite song on the cd from what I've heard thus far



Callin My Name



This song right here shits on that Jay-Z track major....donkee doo doo

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I heard that song too! This is like the only song Mistah FAB didn't get all hyphy on
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
My boy had a early release of this one here
Glam Life

I didn't know it was on tear gas.... ....I'll stop now because I'll probably post every song lol

[ June 30, 2009, 06:12 PM: Message edited by: 90FoX ]
 

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Posted by 93EXCHP (Member # 8741) on :
 

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
My boy had a early release of this one here
Glam Life

I didn't know it was on tear gas.... ....I'll stop now because I'll probably post every song lol

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I've heard this song like a month ago I didn't even know it was on tear gas either.... I know every song on there is sick!
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
I still have "the jack of all trades" in my car right now... local artists =
 

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Posted by 93EXCHP (Member # 8741) on :
 
And oh yeah I have that Glamorous Lifestyle as my ringtone
 

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Posted by 1FAST89GT (Member # 5071) on :
 
this drake and wayne is tite

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5WLgfjo6HM

this is for turbo50 (dan)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD-IUyiEAA0

[ June 30, 2009, 08:18 PM: Message edited by: 1FAST89GT ]
 

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Posted by fr5.0 (Member # 8652) on :
 

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Originally posted by N8:

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Originally posted by fr5.0:
omg you guys are such homos and jay is a nerd, hes like low budget or somethin! i think any one can rap hella slow off the top of there dome, oh and who ever said jada was tight your gay, "ha ha dee block" i think that stands for "dick"!

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You voted for Bush and think Game is the next Pac. Just when I thought you and I were getting on the same page. You go and say Jada Kiss does not have flows and JayZ is weak. I can handle your political views but I cant handle your hip hop views.

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well then i guess i just like smart people, not people that take a whole min. to think of the next thing there gunna say.
lets be real, jay z is the slowest rapper alive and jada is a close second!!!!!
when people say "thats a tight rapper" i think shit like "he musta just droped 28 bars without a pause"!
so next time you say a rapper is tight, stop and think about how long it took him or her to get threw 10 bars!!!!!
 

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Posted by fr5.0 (Member # 8652) on :
 

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Originally posted by N8:
[QUOTE]think Game is the next Pac.

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no one ever said game was the next pac all i said was i see alot of pac in him, the young pac to be exact.
 

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Posted by fr5.0 (Member # 8652) on :
 


[ June 30, 2009, 10:59 PM: Message edited by: fr5.0 ]
 

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Posted by slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
Can't post a link to it please someone post this... YouTube pepsi mic pass bay area... Then listen to NY, ATL, Houston, las vegas, Miami and tell me the bay one isnt one of the best ones.
 

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Posted by 91silverbullet (Member # 8668) on :
 
Just this weekend I listened to some .drake songs ..maaaan I retract my previous post about him being weak just cause I had listened to that best I ever had..and the other song that be on the radio....but I heard this osng called "succesful" man that boy really do be GASSIN ...really impressed....hahha just thought id share that
 

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Posted by Eddie510- (Member # 2354) on :
 

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Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
Just this weekend I listened to some .drake songs ..maaaan I retract my previous post about him being weak just cause I had listened to that best I ever had..and the other song that be on the radio....but I heard this osng called "succesful" man that boy really do be GASSIN ...really impressed....hahha just thought id share that

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ohh yeah drake is going to blow up. watch out
 

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Posted by Eddie510- (Member # 2354) on :
 

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
This one kills that shit.

My favorite song on the cd from what I've heard thus far



Callin My Name



This song right here shits on that Jay-Z track major....donkee doo doo

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"trying to do right but wrong is so easy"

[ July 05, 2009, 11:19 PM: Message edited by: Eddie510- ]
 

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Posted by Eddie510- (Member # 2354) on :
 
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[ July 05, 2009, 11:19 PM: Message edited by: Eddie510- ]
 

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Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
This one kills that shit.

My favorite song on the cd from what I've heard thus far



Callin My Name



This song right here shits on that Jay-Z track major....donkee doo doo

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Originally posted by EPIK:

quote:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
This one kills that shit.

My favorite song on the cd from what I've heard thus far



Callin My Name



This song right here shits on that Jay-Z track major....donkee doo doo

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Song is cool, but I wouldnt say it SHIT's on D.O.A.... They are 2 different types of tracks. D.O.A. is a battle track, & that Jacka song is a mellow track... Good track though IMO...

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Pick any track of jack's and it will kill any jayz track.....but that's just imho
 

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Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 

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Originally posted by 90FoX:

quote:

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Originally posted by EPIK:

quote:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
This one kills that shit.

My favorite song on the cd from what I've heard thus far



Callin My Name



This song right here shits on that Jay-Z track major....donkee doo doo

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Song is cool, but I wouldnt say it SHIT's on D.O.A.... They are 2 different types of tracks. D.O.A. is a battle track, & that Jacka song is a mellow track... Good track though IMO...

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Pick any track of jack's and it will kill any jayz track.....but that's just imho

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Originally posted by EPIK:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:

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Originally posted by EPIK:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
This one kills that shit.

My favorite song on the cd from what I've heard thus far



Callin My Name



This song right here shits on that Jay-Z track major....donkee doo doo

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Song is cool, but I wouldnt say it SHIT's on D.O.A.... They are 2 different types of tracks. D.O.A. is a battle track, & that Jacka song is a mellow track... Good track though IMO...

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Pick any track of jack's and it will kill any jayz track.....but that's just imho

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Your are sadly mistaken my friend, but thats just MY OPINION...


Let me guess, you listen to ONLY bay area hip hop??

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nope...guess again
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
jack even did some mixtape shit over jay-z's beats...i'm sure lots of rappers like him...but I have NEVER like jay-z...

Nas shits on gay z too
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
i seen gay z in vegas, hella fucked up looking...at least get a hair cut going to vegas.....he was hella peepin me n my boys cuz we were dumb fitted...

damn beyonce is tall as fuk in person ... and even hotter


 

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Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
jack even did some mixtape shit over jay-z's beats...i'm sure lots of rappers like him...but I have NEVER like jay-z...

Nas shits on gay z too

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I will agree with you about Nas, he is my favorite MC, but Jay Z is dope too IMO.

Im not gonna get into a pissing match with you about this music, because I love all genre's of hip hop, but I personally think that Jay Z has a hard ass track with D.O.A, & its puttin alot of fake MC's on blast with its message.....


Shit, if you want to hear a dope mellow track with meaningful lyrics, this "Common" track "I used to love her" Shits on that Jacka song, & its 15 years old.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y12YgEIFcAY
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
we are entitled to our opinions...

I'm not pissy...just saying how I feel...doesn't mean I don't like you
 

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Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
i seen gay z in vegas, hella fucked up looking...at least get a hair cut going to vegas.....he was hella peepin me n my boys cuz we were dumb fitted...

damn beyonce is tall as fuk in person ... and even hotter

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well look at it this way. You remember seeing him. But he dont remember seeing you..lol. Or maybe he was peeping you because your clothes were dumb fitting.
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 

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Originally posted by N8:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
i seen gay z in vegas, hella fucked up looking...at least get a hair cut going to vegas.....he was hella peepin me n my boys cuz we were dumb fitted...

damn beyonce is tall as fuk in person ... and even hotter

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well look at it this way. You remember seeing him. But he dont remember seeing you..lol. Or maybe he was peeping you because your clothes were dumb fitting.

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Lol is someone still upset about that iou?

Stop cheer leading for gay z
 

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Posted by 91silverbullet (Member # 8668) on :
 

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
i seen gay z in vegas, hella fucked up looking...at least get a hair cut going to vegas.....he was hella peepin me n my boys cuz we were dumb fitted...

damn beyonce is tall as fuk in person ... and even hotter

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
i seen gay z in vegas, hella fucked up looking...at least get a hair cut going to vegas.....he was hella peepin me n my boys cuz we were dumb fitted...

damn beyonce is tall as fuk in person ... and even hotter

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Put it this way jay z could just bust out his iphone or whateve high tech he has ..and look at his online banking and see how many MILLIONS he has and laugh at u being dumb fitted..hahahaha just my opinion..hahaha

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Damn hella gay z fans are getting butt hurt...dont trip homies...I just don't like his music...no need to tear me a new one...

yall act like he's your brother or sum
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
btw we prlly more fitted than either of you neway...so that's what matters...
 

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Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 

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Originally posted by 90FoX:

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Originally posted by N8:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
i seen gay z in vegas, hella fucked up looking...at least get a hair cut going to vegas.....he was hella peepin me n my boys cuz we were dumb fitted...

damn beyonce is tall as fuk in person ... and even hotter

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well look at it this way. You remember seeing him. But he dont remember seeing you..lol. Or maybe he was peeping you because your clothes were dumb fitting.

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Lol is someone still upset about that iou?

Stop cheer leading for gay z

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Nah, I am not a fan of him outside of his music. but listen to yourself. You are recalling a minuscule encounter with Jay-Z. I guarantee he is not blogging about those guys with the dumb fitting clothes. So in essence being that you are storing that in your mental Rolodex in hand makes you the borderline groupie...

But yes I am still bitter about the IOU...
 

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Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
btw we prlly more fitted than either of you neway...so that's what matters...

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I do not disagree, by your own account you clothes are "dumb fitting". Can never compete with that. Dumb fitting clothes make me think of those kids wearing the skinny jeans and capris (and they are not girls).


 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 

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Originally posted by N8:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:

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Originally posted by N8:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
i seen gay z in vegas, hella fucked up looking...at least get a hair cut going to vegas.....he was hella peepin me n my boys cuz we were dumb fitted...

damn beyonce is tall as fuk in person ... and even hotter

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well look at it this way. You remember seeing him. But he dont remember seeing you..lol. Or maybe he was peeping you because your clothes were dumb fitting.

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Lol is someone still upset about that iou?

Stop cheer leading for gay z

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Nah, I am not a fan of him outside of his music. but listen to yourself. You are recalling a minuscule encounter with Jay-Z. I guarantee he is not blogging about those guys with the dumb fitting clothes. So in essence being that you are storing that in your mental Rolodex in hand makes you the borderline groupie...

But yes I am still bitter about the IOU...

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I only remember that because of beyonces big ass swinging left and right....but yea call me a groupie..i chased him and took pictures and asked for a autograph too...

this was me:

"OMG OMG OMG OMG JAY Z HIIIIIII CAN I TAKE A PIC WITH YOU>>>>> OMG OMG OMG "



also if you've ever seen anyone famous I'm sure you remember it....thus making you a borderline groupie too..so join the crew mayn!

[ July 06, 2009, 12:09 AM: Message edited by: 90FoX ]
 

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Posted by 93EXCHP (Member # 8741) on :
 

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...at least get a hair cut going to vegas.....he was hella peepin me n my boys cuz we were dumb fitted...

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That's the only way to go to Vegas
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 

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Originally posted by 93EXCHP:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
...at least get a hair cut going to vegas.....he was hella peepin me n my boys cuz we were dumb fitted...

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That's the only way to go to Vegas

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maybe "DUMB FITTED" was the wrong choice of words...

how about...ummm..

My friends and I brought with us an exquisite wardrobe during our trip to Las Vegas Nevada...


 

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Posted by 93EXCHP (Member # 8741) on :
 

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Originally posted by 90FoX:

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Originally posted by 93EXCHP:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
...at least get a hair cut going to vegas.....he was hella peepin me n my boys cuz we were dumb fitted...

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That's the only way to go to Vegas

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maybe "DUMB FITTED" was the wrong choice of words...

how about...ummm..

My friends and I brought with us an exquisite wardrobe during our trip to Las Vegas Nevada...

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I like how you took thee time and effort to extend your gentlemans vocabulary from these bizzare speaking Bay Area folks with their "dumb, stupid, hyphy" etc. Laugh Out Loud
I believe you forgot the comma between Las Vegas and Nevada
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 

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Originally posted by 93EXCHP:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:

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Originally posted by 93EXCHP:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
...at least get a hair cut going to vegas.....he was hella peepin me n my boys cuz we were dumb fitted...

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That's the only way to go to Vegas

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maybe "DUMB FITTED" was the wrong choice of words...

how about...ummm..

My friends and I brought with us an exquisite wardrobe during our trip to Las Vegas Nevada...

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I like how you took thee time and effort to extend your gentlemans vocabulary from these bizzare speaking Bay Area folks with their "dumb, stupid, hyphy" etc. Laugh Out Loud
I believe you forgot the comma between Las Vegas and Nevada

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Hey guess what.....


FUCK YOU!



 

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Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
we are entitled to our opinions...

I'm not pissy...just saying how I feel...doesn't mean I don't like you

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LOL...

 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 

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Originally posted by EPIK:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
we are entitled to our opinions...

I'm not pissy...just saying how I feel...doesn't mean I don't like you

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LOL...

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Posted by 93EXCHP (Member # 8741) on :
 

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Originally posted by 90FoX:

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Originally posted by 93EXCHP:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:

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Originally posted by 93EXCHP:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
...at least get a hair cut going to vegas.....he was hella peepin me n my boys cuz we were dumb fitted...

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That's the only way to go to Vegas

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maybe "DUMB FITTED" was the wrong choice of words...

how about...ummm..

My friends and I brought with us an exquisite wardrobe during our trip to Las Vegas Nevada...

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I like how you took thee time and effort to extend your gentlemans vocabulary from these bizzare speaking Bay Area folks with their "dumb, stupid, hyphy" etc. Laugh Out Loud
I believe you forgot the comma between Las Vegas and Nevada

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Hey guess what.....


FUCK YOU!

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FUCK ME? OH NO FUCK YOU
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 

 

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Posted by 93EXCHP (Member # 8741) on :
 

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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh YEAH!
 

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Posted by 91silverbullet (Member # 8668) on :
 
if you really enjoy hip hop , and like it cause of the music and flow..this dude is crazy..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXksEfVuMDI

[ July 06, 2009, 01:24 AM: Message edited by: 91silverbullet ]
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 

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Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
if you really enjoy hip hop , and like it cause of the music and flow..this dude is crazy..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXksEfVuMDI

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Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
if you really enjoy hip hop , and like it cause of the music and flow..this dude is crazy..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXksEfVuMDI

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Pretty fly song.
 

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Posted by 91silverbullet (Member # 8668) on :
 

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Here listen to this and tell me the lyrics don't shit on that drake song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrzNmHqUV7Y

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Originally posted by 91silverbullet:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
Here listen to this and tell me the lyrics don't shit on that drake song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrzNmHqUV7Y

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yeah man jacka is dope ..is just a whole differnet type of flow bro ..i like jackas shit ..i think the jack artist shits on his new shit..

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no way...theres other rappers from the bay that go too, but jacka is on top of my list, esp since his new album came out...i keep it on loop


once hus gets back in the booth it's over...can't wait for another mob figz album
 

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Posted by 91silverbullet (Member # 8668) on :
 
i mean if you ask me ...one of my favorite verses by anyone is biggies verse on this ...and u cant say shit about it not being dope cause if you do honestly i would not respect your music opinion..haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p18uNMfwp34
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 

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Originally posted by 91silverbullet:
i mean if you ask me ...one of my favorite verses by anyone is biggies verse on this ...and u cant say shit about it not being dope cause if you do honestly i would not respect your music opinion..haha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p18uNMfwp34

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biggie is sick and so are bone thugs...that song is the shit too...got that album right now on my comp

biggie rips it tough on this one ....

[ July 06, 2009, 01:39 AM: Message edited by: 90FoX ]
 

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Posted by 88DroptopGT (Member # 2535) on :
 
Speaking of Jacka what album is this song on?

http://www.imeem.com/people/Zs4k6/music/k1FiplMS/jacka-get-on-out-there/


 

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Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 

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Originally posted by 90FoX:

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Originally posted by 91silverbullet:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
Here listen to this and tell me the lyrics don't shit on that drake song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrzNmHqUV7Y

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yeah man jacka is dope ..is just a whole differnet type of flow bro ..i like jackas shit ..i think the jack artist shits on his new shit..

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no way...theres other rappers from the bay that go too, but jacka is on top of my list, esp since his new album came out...i keep it on loop


once hus gets back in the booth it's over...can't wait for another mob figz album

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Originally posted by EPIK:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:

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Originally posted by 91silverbullet:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
Here listen to this and tell me the lyrics don't shit on that drake song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrzNmHqUV7Y

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yeah man jacka is dope ..is just a whole differnet type of flow bro ..i like jackas shit ..i think the jack artist shits on his new shit..

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no way...theres other rappers from the bay that go too, but jacka is on top of my list, esp since his new album came out...i keep it on loop


once hus gets back in the booth it's over...can't wait for another mob figz album

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A few years back, I was in a few sessions with the Mob Figaz because they were actually supposed to use some of my tracks,(actually AP9 used some without my permission lol), & I couldn't help but notice that Fed Ex tried really hard to sound like Jay Z... Not just lyrically, but the way he flowed too, & his voice....

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Originally posted by 88DroptopGT:
Speaking of Jacka what album is this song on?

http://www.imeem.com/people/Zs4k6/music/k1FiplMS/jacka-get-on-out-there/

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Your joking right?
 

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Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 

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Originally posted by 90FoX:

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Originally posted by EPIK:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:

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Originally posted by 91silverbullet:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
Here listen to this and tell me the lyrics don't shit on that drake song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrzNmHqUV7Y

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yeah man jacka is dope ..is just a whole differnet type of flow bro ..i like jackas shit ..i think the jack artist shits on his new shit..

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no way...theres other rappers from the bay that go too, but jacka is on top of my list, esp since his new album came out...i keep it on loop


once hus gets back in the booth it's over...can't wait for another mob figz album

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A few years back, I was in a few sessions with the Mob Figaz because they were actually supposed to use some of my tracks,(actually AP9 used some without my permission lol), & I couldn't help but notice that Fed Ex tried really hard to sound like Jay Z... Not just lyrically, but the way he flowed too, & his voice....

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show me the track he did that on? can you compare it to one of gay z's tracks?

Fed ex has a clean as flow too...i never heard anything that sounded like gay z

but then again i dont listen to gay z

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Originally posted by EPIK:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:

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Originally posted by EPIK:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:

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Originally posted by 91silverbullet:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
Here listen to this and tell me the lyrics don't shit on that drake song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrzNmHqUV7Y

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yeah man jacka is dope ..is just a whole differnet type of flow bro ..i like jackas shit ..i think the jack artist shits on his new shit..

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no way...theres other rappers from the bay that go too, but jacka is on top of my list, esp since his new album came out...i keep it on loop


once hus gets back in the booth it's over...can't wait for another mob figz album

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A few years back, I was in a few sessions with the Mob Figaz because they were actually supposed to use some of my tracks,(actually AP9 used some without my permission lol), & I couldn't help but notice that Fed Ex tried really hard to sound like Jay Z... Not just lyrically, but the way he flowed too, & his voice....

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show me the track he did that on? can you compare it to one of gay z's tracks?

Fed ex has a clean as flow too...i never heard anything that sounded like gay z

but then again i dont listen to gay z

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I really don't bump much of their music, so I coulnt tell you any specific tracks, but I do remember he did a track on my boy Bueno's album & he sounded like Jay alot...


On another note, I dunno how they ended up with my beats on the album, & I dunno if they ever actually were released, but I have 3 tracks in my computer that they spit on without getting my permission. 2 are AP9, & the other 1 is just Mob Figaz.... Maybe 1 of you guys that are fans of their music could tell me if these songs were ever released if I email them to you...

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Originally posted by 90FoX:

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Originally posted by EPIK:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:

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Originally posted by EPIK:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:

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Originally posted by 91silverbullet:

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
Here listen to this and tell me the lyrics don't shit on that drake song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrzNmHqUV7Y

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yeah man jacka is dope ..is just a whole differnet type of flow bro ..i like jackas shit ..i think the jack artist shits on his new shit..

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no way...theres other rappers from the bay that go too, but jacka is on top of my list, esp since his new album came out...i keep it on loop


once hus gets back in the booth it's over...can't wait for another mob figz album

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A few years back, I was in a few sessions with the Mob Figaz because they were actually supposed to use some of my tracks,(actually AP9 used some without my permission lol), & I couldn't help but notice that Fed Ex tried really hard to sound like Jay Z... Not just lyrically, but the way he flowed too, & his voice....

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show me the track he did that on? can you compare it to one of gay z's tracks?

Fed ex has a clean as flow too...i never heard anything that sounded like gay z

but then again i dont listen to gay z

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I really don't bump much of their music, so I coulnt tell you any specific tracks, but I do remember he did a track on my boy Bueno's album & he sounded like Jay alot...


On another note, I dunno how they ended up with my beats on the album, & I dunno if they ever actually were released, but I have 3 tracks in my computer that they spit on without getting my permission. 2 are AP9, & the other 1 is just Mob Figaz.... Maybe 1 of you guys that are fans of their music could tell me if these songs were ever released if I email them to you...

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one of my boys who makes beats burned cd's of his beats and mailed em to himself...but he never opened the package...he said doing this would prove you created the music also the USPS post mark shows the date which helps prove when you had the music created somewhat....

i dont know the laws on that but if you can prove that your shit was protected and someone used it without your permission you probably are entitled to some looochee $$$

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That shit works to a certain extent... Shit that wasnt the 1st time a bay artist used my tracks without permission...

You ever heard these tracks? I produced these & Yukmouth & C-Bo used them without permission....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ4zi-s4IlM&feature=PlayList&p=C48C7BECE8A222C5&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=23

Can't find the other 1 on Youtube, but it was on that same Thug Lordz album & it was called "go hard in the paint"

Fuckin crooks....
 

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Posted by 90FoX (Member # 1974) on :
 
damn you make some creepy ass beats....like ima murder you type beats lol


 

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Posted by EPIK (Member # 7481) on :
 

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damn you make some creepy ass beats....like ima murder you type beats lol

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Originally posted by 90FoX:
damn you make some creepy ass beats....like ima murder you type beats lol

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I make all types of sh#t....Some of em are creepy, some are hard, some are smooth, & some sound like this.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beqdIVjvOlQ

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can you shout!!!! let me hear you screeeam we sum fiens for heeem n sticky greennn!!!

 

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Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
Epik you need to start protecting your shit. I talked to a friend of mine who is a producer in the bay and he thinks he has worked with you. And may be aware of the violation...lol.
 

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Posted by slowback67 (Member # 6348) on :
 
If any of you like to make beats and have an iPhone check out beatmaker it's a cool program to make beats and sample stuff... I'm working on a few tracks right now but I'm a neewb trying to make stuff
 

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