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Posted by 87#184saleen (Member # 6276) on :

[ March 20, 2008, 12:22 AM: Message edited by: 87#184saleen ]

Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on :

very nice man.

Posted by WRS92GT (Member # 5008) on :

That's almost identicle to one of my AR's (upper wise). What make is it? 5.56 I assume?

The only difference in mine is I opted for Troy Industries flip up front & rear iron sights to compliment my EOTech optic. What make is the RIS system as well?

Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :

Looks good.

Posted by 87#184saleen (Member # 6276) on :

thanks

Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :

Where is the lower portion? How can you legally posess that and shoot it if you get the gun complete?

Posted by 87#184saleen (Member # 6276) on :

ill get it on the 13th of this month

Posted by maeco (Member # 2578) on :

I think you can get the lower portion in hayward gun store.my boy just bought the ar15 kit just the top like yours and bought the lower stock in the gunstore which had to be registered.

Posted by 87#184saleen (Member # 6276) on :

i bought the lower also its getting registered
under my name

Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :

The lower reciever is the only part of an AR consider to be a gun. You can order all the other parts online except the lower, the lower has to go through a 10 day waiting period.

Posted by 87#184saleen (Member # 6276) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 532Fastback:
The lower reciever is the only part of an AR consider to be a gun. You can order all the other parts online except the lower, the lower has to go through a 10 day waiting period.

yes sir

Posted by 50 Deep (Member # 6216) on :

If you dont mind me asking, whats the reason for having a high powered automatic rifle as a civilian? is it more of a protection issue or just something you've wanted? i ask because i may be joining chp soon and the thought of showing up to a call or pulling over someone in posession of an AR-15 assault rifle seems disturbing. again im not talking shit but have a genuine curiousity to understand your reasoning

Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:
If you dont mind me asking, whats the reason for having a high powered automatic rifle as a civilian? is it more of a protection issue or just something you've wanted? i ask because i may be joining chp soon and the thought of showing up to a call or pulling over someone in posession of an AR-15 assault rifle seems disturbing. again im not talking shit but have a genuine curiousity to understand your reasoning

lol, u have a good while till u become chp, plus ur not gonna be a cop so u wont really be showing up to a call, chances of u pulling him over and him actually having it in the car are very unlikely. its most likely something he's wanted and for protection. its "KINDA" like me sayin, why do u have a muscle when u are becoming chp if maybe one day u get pulled over speeding or racing by chp and u are chp also. that wont look very well will it? just my .02

Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:
If you dont mind me asking, whats the reason for having a high powered automatic rifle as a civilian? is it more of a protection issue or just something you've wanted? i ask because i may be joining chp soon and the thought of showing up to a call or pulling over someone in posession of an AR-15 assault rifle seems disturbing. again im not talking shit but have a genuine curiousity to understand your reasoning

over 100,000 california citizens have legal AR15s, if you become a CHP officer please read the gun laws on these weapons and make your own decision on them. No one so far with a california legal AR15 has been prosecuted for owning it. If your going to be a CHP officer you should worry more about handguns than an AR15. Handguns are harder to hide.
California legal AR15's aren't assault weapons by the way, they are just a rifle and they aren't automatic.

[ March 05, 2008, 02:07 AM: Message edited by: 532Fastback ]

Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :

If you want to read why his rifle will be legal go here
http://calguns.net/a_california_arak.htm

[ March 05, 2008, 02:06 AM: Message edited by: 532Fastback ]

Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :

I like this

Posted by WRS92GT (Member # 5008) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:
If you dont mind me asking, whats the reason for having a high powered automatic rifle as a civilian? is it more of a protection issue or just something you've wanted? i ask because i may be joining chp soon and the thought of showing up to a call or pulling over someone in posession of an AR-15 assault rifle seems disturbing. again im not talking shit but have a genuine curiousity to understand your reasoning

Ok officer (insert name). Pop quiz time.

Who's more of a tactical threat? A person armed with a high powered scoped bolt action rifle that can hit soft targets out to 1,000 meters OR a person that brandishes an "assualt rifle" with a 30 round magazine that is less effective at long range? I could kill a human being before they would hear the crack of the primer being struck by the rifle's hammer with a scoped bolt action rifle. Are we going to ban hunting rifles next because they are potential "sniper" rifles?

A person that is a law abiding citizen should not have to answer this question under the 2nd ammendment. It is a person's right to bear arms whatever those arms may be. If a person has a class III FFL then fuck it, they can buy a goddamned M249 SAW belt-fed machine gun for all I give a fuck.

Chances are the cheese dicks that you'll be pulling over at felony traffic stops will have on their person or in their possession "cheap" junk guns. Very, very rarely will you find a felon with a high dollar "Sig, H&K, Glock or Colt" in their cache of weaponry.

Posted by 87#184saleen (Member # 6276) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:
If you dont mind me asking, whats the reason for having a high powered automatic rifle as a civilian? is it more of a protection issue or just something you've wanted? i ask because i may be joining chp soon and the thought of showing up to a call or pulling over someone in posession of an AR-15 assault rifle seems disturbing. again im not talking shit but have a genuine curiousity to understand your reasoning

I Think you should study your laws a little bit better. [patriot]

[ March 05, 2008, 12:19 PM: Message edited by: 87#184saleen ]

Posted by sharkattack (Member # 645) on :

Nevermind

[ March 05, 2008, 11:24 AM: Message edited by: sharkattack ]

Posted by Fast(er) Eddie (Member # 4737) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:
If you dont mind me asking, whats the reason for having a high powered automatic rifle as a civilian? is it more of a protection issue or just something you've wanted? i ask because i may be joining chp soon and the thought of showing up to a call or pulling over someone in posession of an AR-15 assault rifle seems disturbing. again im not talking shit but have a genuine curiousity to understand your reasoning

My bad, it wasn't a dumb question, In fact it was an insightful one that challenges all to think for a minute about guns and the people that posses them. No reason for me to have called the dude dumb. My bad on that.

[ March 05, 2008, 01:16 PM: Message edited by: Fast(er) Eddie ]

Posted by RiddlerGT (Member # 113) on :

Sorry faster you are the dumbass kid, Grow up.

Cops are here to help protect us, if you get busted street racing or doing illegal activities and now hate cops thats your problem, one day you will need one. Having a dislike for cops is a maturity issue so please grow up sooner then later.

Good luck in your pursuit to becoming a cop 50.

I think 50 had a valid question, to the unknowing citizen an AR15 looks like an assault rifle. If I didn't have a background growing up shooting guns I'd ask the same question WTF do you need that for are you looking to kill an army?

Posted by 87#184saleen (Member # 6276) on :

quote:
Originally posted by RiddlerGT:
Sorry faster you are the dumbass kid, Grow up.

Cops are here to help protect us, if you get busted street racing or doing illegal activities and now hate cops thats your problem, one day you will need one. Having a dislike for cops is a maturity issue so please grow up sooner then later.

Good luck in your pursuit to becoming a cop 50.

I think 50 had a valid question, to the unknowing citizen an AR15 looks like an assault rifle. If I didn't have a background growing up shooting guns I'd ask the same question WTF do you need that for are you looking to kill an army?

no its not to kill an army is for the thiefs. lol j/k [Big Grin]

Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 87#184saleen:

quote:
Originally posted by RiddlerGT:
Sorry faster you are the dumbass kid, Grow up.

Cops are here to help protect us, if you get busted street racing or doing illegal activities and now hate cops thats your problem, one day you will need one. Having a dislike for cops is a maturity issue so please grow up sooner then later.

Good luck in your pursuit to becoming a cop 50.

I think 50 had a valid question, to the unknowing citizen an AR15 looks like an assault rifle. If I didn't have a background growing up shooting guns I'd ask the same question WTF do you need that for are you looking to kill an army?
no its not to kill an army is for the thiefs. lol j/k

lol i dont think you are [Razz]

.... the stang done yet [Big Grin]

Posted by 87#184saleen (Member # 6276) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Pure Stang:

quote:
Originally posted by 87#184saleen:

quote:
Originally posted by RiddlerGT:
Sorry faster you are the dumbass kid, Grow up.

Cops are here to help protect us, if you get busted street racing or doing illegal activities and now hate cops thats your problem, one day you will need one. Having a dislike for cops is a maturity issue so please grow up sooner then later.

Good luck in your pursuit to becoming a cop 50.

I think 50 had a valid question, to the unknowing citizen an AR15 looks like an assault rifle. If I didn't have a background growing up shooting guns I'd ask the same question WTF do you need that for are you looking to kill an army?
no its not to kill an army is for the thiefs. lol j/k
lol i dont think you are .... the stang done yet

im trying to put the suspension together ill let you know we could go for a ride [patriot]

Posted by Jmir018 (Member # 1414) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:
If you dont mind me asking, whats the reason for having a high powered automatic rifle as a civilian? is it more of a protection issue or just something you've wanted? .... again im not talking shit but have a genuine curiousity to understand your reasoning

why is everyone attacking 50 and his lack of "knowledge." why are you people calling him names? that really proves your maturity.
He had a valid question. Why own a high power riffle? is it protection,wanna feel tough, simply collect weapons, what?
Read his post again and do be so defensive, maybe you'll get his question now.

Personally, i'd own a shotgun to take care of burglars and intruders.

Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on :

[Big Grin]

cool ....

Posted by Cm4hawks (Member # 5231) on :

How much did you pay for it?

Posted by 87#184saleen (Member # 6276) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Cm4hawks:
How much did you pay for it?

$2000 the way it is

Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Jmir018:

quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:
If you dont mind me asking, whats the reason for having a high powered automatic rifle as a civilian? is it more of a protection issue or just something you've wanted? .... again im not talking shit but have a genuine curiousity to understand your reasoning
why is everyone attacking 50 and his lack of "knowledge." why are you people calling him names? that really proves your maturity.
He had a valid question. Why own a high power riffle? is it protection,wanna feel tough, simply collect weapons, what?
Read his post again and do be so defensive, maybe you'll get his question now.

Personally, i'd own a shotgun to take care of burglars and intruders.

i didn't call him names, i tried to educate him.
i don't know what Saleens reasoning is for buying the AR so i just showed him the laws that make saleens gun legal and why its not an assault rifle.

[ March 05, 2008, 12:56 PM: Message edited by: 532Fastback ]

Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 87#184saleen:

quote:
Originally posted by Cm4hawks:
How much did you pay for it?
$2000 the way it is

damn you paid hella money. [Eek!]

who made the upper? i know the Eotech scope probably cost about a grand lol.

Posted by 87#184saleen (Member # 6276) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 532Fastback:

quote:
Originally posted by 87#184saleen:

quote:
Originally posted by Cm4hawks:
How much did you pay for it?
$2000 the way it is
damn you paid hella money.
who made the upper? i know the Eotech scope probably cost about a grand lol.

CMMG 14.5” Mid-Length Carbine w/Permanent Phantom with
Phantom Flash Hider
&
EOTech 557.AR223 Holosight

14.5 CAR Lightweight Barrel

AR-15 / M-16 / M-4 Midwest Carbine Length 2 Piece Aluminum 4 Rail Handguard

also the front grip

Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 87#184saleen:

quote:
Originally posted by 532Fastback:

quote:
Originally posted by 87#184saleen:

quote:
Originally posted by Cm4hawks:
How much did you pay for it?
$2000 the way it is
damn you paid hella money.
who made the upper? i know the Eotech scope probably cost about a grand lol.
CMMG 14.5” Mid-Length Carbine w/Permanent Phantom with
Phantom Flash Hider
&
EOTech 557.AR223 Holosight

14.5 CAR Lightweight Barrel

AR-15 / M-16 / M-4 Midwest Carbine Length 2 Piece Aluminum 4 Rail Handguard

also the front grip

who makes the lower? and what parts kit are you going with? you going to go with a collapsible buttstock?

Posted by 87#184saleen (Member # 6276) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 532Fastback:

quote:
Originally posted by 87#184saleen:

quote:
Originally posted by 532Fastback:

quote:
Originally posted by 87#184saleen:

quote:
Originally posted by Cm4hawks:
How much did you pay for it?
$2000 the way it is
damn you paid hella money.
who made the upper? i know the Eotech scope probably cost about a grand lol.
CMMG 14.5” Mid-Length Carbine w/Permanent Phantom with
Phantom Flash Hider
&
EOTech 557.AR223 Holosight

14.5 CAR Lightweight Barrel

AR-15 / M-16 / M-4 Midwest Carbine Length 2 Piece Aluminum 4 Rail Handguard

also the front grip
who makes the lower? and what parts kit are you going with? you going to go with a collapsible buttstock?

the lower its cmmg
AR-15 M4 CAR Post-Ban Buttstock Assembly - Black

Posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' (Member # 895) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Jmir018:
Personally, i'd own a shotgun to take care of burglars and intruders.

I would too, you really don't want to start sending rounds through all your neighbors homes too. Plus like everybody says, whats one of the most scariest sounds you could here at night when its pitch black? Action of the Shotgun! But at the same time yeah if you are law abbiding person and have respect for people, law and the gun you should be able to get whatever gun you want.

Posted by Jmir018 (Member # 1414) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 532Fastback:

quote:
Originally posted by Jmir018:

quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:
If you dont mind me asking, whats the reason for having a high powered automatic rifle as a civilian? is it more of a protection issue or just something you've wanted? .... again im not talking shit but have a genuine curiousity to understand your reasoning
why is everyone attacking 50 and his lack of "knowledge." why are you people calling him names? that really proves your maturity.
He had a valid question. Why own a high power riffle? is it protection,wanna feel tough, simply collect weapons, what?
Read his post again and do be so defensive, maybe you'll get his question now.

Personally, i'd own a shotgun to take care of burglars and intruders.
i didn't call him names, i tried to educate him.
i don't know what Saleens reasoning is for buying the AR so i just showed him the laws that make saleens gun legal and why its not an assault rifle.

I wasn't referring to you Dana.. you're all good.
thanks for the links. They were informative. [patriot]

Posted by WRS92GT (Member # 5008) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 532Fastback:

quote:
Originally posted by 87#184saleen:

quote:
Originally posted by Cm4hawks:
How much did you pay for it?
$2000 the way it is
damn you paid hella money.
who made the upper? i know the Eotech scope probably cost about a grand lol.

Dude EoTech's usually run well under $500 depending upon which model you roll with. You're probably thinking of Trijicon's ACOG gunsight optic.

CMMG is pricey but they are for a reason. They are simply one of the best "off list" manufactures out there at the moment. I have a CMMG 9mm upper for one of my AR's and it's second to none quality wise. It beats the shit out of my STAG and Rock River Arms uppers.

Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :

To bad we don't live in a free country. It would be nice to own what ever gun you wanted for what ever reasons you have. Maybe even put it in writting lol.(Constitution). Some people just like owning and shooting bad ass guns. Since I have been on this forum more people on CA Fords have been killed by Mustangs and motorcycles than AR15's...or any combo of guns for that matter.

Posted by sharkattack (Member # 645) on :

I've got a Colt AR15A3 (M4) with an Aimpoint M4 optic. Picked it up back in November with Surefire weapons mounted light.

[ March 05, 2008, 04:35 PM: Message edited by: sharkattack ]

Posted by 86BackInBlack (Member # 5372) on :

wait, so this gun isnt automatic? thats not very effective against zombies [Big Grin]

Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 86BackInBlack:
wait, so this gun isnt automatic? thats not very effective against zombies

but u can make it auto [Wink]

then it wouldnt be legal, but illegal stuff is always funner [Big Grin]

Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :

quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:

quote:
Originally posted by 86BackInBlack:
wait, so this gun isnt automatic? thats not very effective against zombies
but u can make it auto then it wouldnt be legal, but illegal stuff is always funner

and carries more jail time [Eek!]

Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:

quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:

quote:
Originally posted by 86BackInBlack:
wait, so this gun isnt automatic? thats not very effective against zombies
but u can make it auto then it wouldnt be legal, but illegal stuff is always funner
and carries more jail time

true but eh....... [Embarrassed]

Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 86BackInBlack:
wait, so this gun isnt automatic? thats not very effective against zombies

Terminators are more likely [Wink]

Posted by 87#184saleen (Member # 6276) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 86BackInBlack:
wait, so this gun isnt automatic? thats not very effective against zombies

when i was in the marines we had the good toys
i know how to make it illegal but i dont want problems [Big Grin]

Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 87#184saleen:

quote:
Originally posted by 86BackInBlack:
wait, so this gun isnt automatic? thats not very effective against zombies
i know how to make it illegal but i dont want problems

ya very easy. its kinda like just doin a cold air kit on a mustang maybe even easier than that

Posted by WRS92GT (Member # 5008) on :

quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:

quote:
Originally posted by 87#184saleen:

quote:
Originally posted by 86BackInBlack:
wait, so this gun isnt automatic? thats not very effective against zombies
i know how to make it illegal but i dont want problems
ya very easy. its kinda like just doin a cold air kit on a mustang maybe even easier than that

Besides full auto really isn't effective on anything other than support weapons and sub-machineguns. Semi auto is the only way to go.

Posted by lowriderryda (Member # 7397) on :

where can i find info on getting one of these ar15 legally?

Posted by phat_turbo_du (Member # 6699) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:
If you dont mind me asking, whats the reason for having a high powered automatic rifle as a civilian? is it more of a protection issue or just something you've wanted? i ask because i may be joining chp soon and the thought of showing up to a call or pulling over someone in posession of an AR-15 assault rifle seems disturbing. again im not talking shit but have a genuine curiousity to understand your reasoning

1) its our right to do so

2) its not an automatic

3) its not an "assault rifle"

4) lmao at a .223 being high powered!!!!!

Posted by 87#184saleen (Member # 6276) on :

quote:
Originally posted by phat_turbo_du:

quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:
If you dont mind me asking, whats the reason for having a high powered automatic rifle as a civilian? is it more of a protection issue or just something you've wanted? i ask because i may be joining chp soon and the thought of showing up to a call or pulling over someone in posession of an AR-15 assault rifle seems disturbing. again im not talking shit but have a genuine curiousity to understand your reasoning
1) its our right to do so

2) its not an automatic

3) its not an "assault rifle"

4) lmao at a .223 being high powered!!!!!

yeah its a 22 cal with steroids [Razz]

Posted by phat_turbo_du (Member # 6699) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 87#184saleen:

quote:
Originally posted by phat_turbo_du:

quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:
If you dont mind me asking, whats the reason for having a high powered automatic rifle as a civilian? is it more of a protection issue or just something you've wanted? i ask because i may be joining chp soon and the thought of showing up to a call or pulling over someone in posession of an AR-15 assault rifle seems disturbing. again im not talking shit but have a genuine curiousity to understand your reasoning
1) its our right to do so

2) its not an automatic

3) its not an "assault rifle"

4) lmao at a .223 being high powered!!!!!
yeah its a 22 cal with steroids

next build is going to me a .308 ar for me.....

Posted by 8Notch9 (Member # 2901) on :

I can't remember....is it legal with a detach magazine or does it have to be fixed?

Posted by phat_turbo_du (Member # 6699) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 8Notch9:
I can't remember....is it legal with a detach magazine or does it have to be fixed?

been a while since i lived in commiefornia, but i believe 10 rounder can detatch, anything more has to be fixed. id check calguns.net though

the great thing about texas......i have my xd40 with 12 rd mag in the truck 24/7 and i have an ak with 5 40 rd mags under the bed and both are 100% legal to have and carry loaded in your car [Big Grin]

also waiting on my concealed handgun license paperwork to come back now. also when i bought my xd last week. i walked in at 4:30 and walked out with a gun at 5:00

Posted by 89saleen (Member # 3083) on :

Getting a concealed carry permit within city limits here in California is like an act of God. Been denied 2x and Im ex-military.
I believe any AR type weapon that is sold for civilian use in California now must have a fixed magazine regardless of capacity. Overall weapon length must be no shorter than 30 inches. No flash supressors. No bayonet lugs. No collapsible butt-stocks. There is also questions about pistol grips now. People that legally purchased, owned & registered an AR-15 or variant prior to 1993 were sent a letter by the state requiring them to either turn in their weapon at a designated "surrender" site or to have the weapon modified to conform to the new required laws. THE LAWS ARE ALWAYS CHANGING. So please dont get angry or dispute my statements because every time you look up the laws, they will be different. And I am not a book of facts so I could be wrong now. But this is what I know . I also do also know that Hillary C. has some wild wild ideas on what she will do with U.S. gun laws if she ends up in office. Again, nothing personal about that either. My opinions...

Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on :

Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :

bwahahaha lmao! [worship]

Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 89saleen:
Getting a concealed carry permit within city limits here in California is like an act of God. Been denied 2x and Im ex-military.
I believe any AR type weapon that is sold for civilian use in California now must have a fixed magazine regardless of capacity. Overall weapon length must be no shorter than 30 inches. No flash supressors. No bayonet lugs. No collapsible butt-stocks. There is also questions about pistol grips now. People that legally purchased, owned & registered an AR-15 or variant prior to 1993 were sent a letter by the state requiring them to either turn in their weapon at a designated "surrender" site or to have the weapon modified to conform to the new required laws. THE LAWS ARE ALWAYS CHANGING. So please dont get angry or dispute my statements because every time you look up the laws, they will be different. And I am not a book of facts so I could be wrong now. But this is what I know . I also do also know that Hillary C. has some wild wild ideas on what she will do with U.S. gun laws if she ends up in office. Again, nothing personal about that either. My opinions...

Posted by 50 Deep (Member # 6216) on :

DAAAAAAMMMMN. i hadnt been able to check this post for a while. but let me clarify some things.

1) my main concern by posting this is to understand the rationale behind wanting to own an AR-15. equate it to someone asking you why do you want to own an 800hp street car. the question is not meant to offend but to gain information and insight. I dont have an extensive background with weaponry so excuse my calling it an "assault" rifle

2) as im starting my long journey with chp im very aware that i will not be responding to house calls but mainly working the highways. My mention of me possibly joining chp was for you to understand why i asked the question i did. I dont expect to be seeing many rifles like an AR-15 but should i end up in the border division where much of the drugs that enter california come from, im sure i may run across more than a handgun. and im sure many veteran cops have come accross weird shit on stops all throughout the state.

3) im rather disappointed in the fact that a simple question that didnt pose any particular stance on gun control laws, but was meant to illicit what i hoped would be an intellegent response was misunderstood by so many. The point of me asking this question was so I can understanding why someone would want to own a gun of that power & so i can broaden my horizions and understand something i havent been exposed too. I would hope more people would be brave enough to ask about things they dont understand. thanks for those who read my question as it was presented and gave me an informational response.

Posted by liftedF150 (Member # 868) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:
DAAAAAAMMMMN. i hadnt been able to check this post for a while. but let me clarify some things.

1) my main concern by posting this is to understand the rationale behind wanting to own an AR-15. equate it to someone asking you why do you want to own an 800hp street car. the question is not meant to offend but to gain information and insight. I dont have an extensive background with weaponry so excuse my calling it an "assault" rifle

2) as im starting my long journey with chp im very aware that i will not be responding to house calls but mainly working the highways. My mention of me possibly joining chp was for you to understand why i asked the question i did. I dont expect to be seeing many rifles like an AR-15 but should i end up in the border division where much of the drugs that enter california come from, im sure i may run across more than a handgun. and im sure many veteran cops have come accross weird shit on stops all throughout the state.

3) im rather disappointed in the fact that a simple question that didnt pose any particular stance on gun control laws, but was meant to illicit what i hoped would be an intellegent response was misunderstood by so many. The point of me asking this question was so I can understanding why someone would want to own a gun of that power & so i can broaden my horizions and understand something i havent been exposed too. I would hope more people would be brave enough to ask about things they dont understand. thanks for those who read my question as it was presented and gave me an informational response.

Your first mistake was thinking people on here are smart. People will find any excuse to start talking shit and then everybody jumps on the band wagon. Most of the literate people understood your question so you have nothing to apologize about. I was wondering the same thing.

Posted by rgtrahn (Member # 7133) on :

quote:
Originally posted by liftedF150:

quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:
DAAAAAAMMMMN. i hadnt been able to check this post for a while. but let me clarify some things.

1) my main concern by posting this is to understand the rationale behind wanting to own an AR-15. equate it to someone asking you why do you want to own an 800hp street car. the question is not meant to offend but to gain information and insight. I dont have an extensive background with weaponry so excuse my calling it an "assault" rifle

2) as im starting my long journey with chp im very aware that i will not be responding to house calls but mainly working the highways. My mention of me possibly joining chp was for you to understand why i asked the question i did. I dont expect to be seeing many rifles like an AR-15 but should i end up in the border division where much of the drugs that enter california come from, im sure i may run across more than a handgun. and im sure many veteran cops have come accross weird shit on stops all throughout the state.

3) im rather disappointed in the fact that a simple question that didnt pose any particular stance on gun control laws, but was meant to illicit what i hoped would be an intellegent response was misunderstood by so many. The point of me asking this question was so I can understanding why someone would want to own a gun of that power & so i can broaden my horizions and understand something i havent been exposed too. I would hope more people would be brave enough to ask about things they dont understand. thanks for those who read my question as it was presented and gave me an informational response.
Your first mistake was thinking people on here are smart. People will find any excuse to start talking shit and then everybody jumps on the band wagon. Most of the literate people understood your question so you have nothing to apologize about. I was wondering the same thing.

+1 I am going into law enforcement also; I had the same thoughts...

Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on :

quote:
Originally posted by liftedF150:
Your first mistake was thinking people on here are smart. People will find any excuse to start talking shit and then everybody jumps on the band wagon. Most of the literate people understood your question so you have nothing to apologize about. I was wondering the same thing.

I'll bite. You should think about it from the side of some of the gun owner's/lover's views. Typically that question is probably heard a lot by many of the gun grabbers or those who are anti gun. I'm not saying they are right to attack right off the bat, but the way that question has been worded is probably not the type of question a lot of those gun enthusiasts like to hear, hence the immediate personal attacks. Touchy subject.... these evil assault rifles.

Posted by 89saleen (Member # 3083) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 532Fastback:

You can have all the "Evil Features" that you said you can't have as long as you have a fixed magazine the magazine has to be a 10 round, if you want a detachable magazine you can't have a pistol grip, flash suppressor or any "Evil Feature"

The Lower reciever must be off the ban list for california [/QB][/QUOTE]

Gotcha. Thanks for clarification.

Hey,- 87#184saleen- I love your new AR upper from the Cow Palace. I like it. I love it. I want more of it.
Best fightin' rifle on the planet. Hold onto it for the rest of your life.
Thanks

Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:
DAAAAAAMMMMN. i hadnt been able to check this post for a while. but let me clarify some things.

1) my main concern by posting this is to understand the rationale behind wanting to own an AR-15. equate it to someone asking you why do you want to own an 800hp street car. the question is not meant to offend but to gain information and insight. I dont have an extensive background with weaponry so excuse my calling it an "assault" rifle

2) as im starting my long journey with chp im very aware that i will not be responding to house calls but mainly working the highways. My mention of me possibly joining chp was for you to understand why i asked the question i did. I dont expect to be seeing many rifles like an AR-15 but should i end up in the border division where much of the drugs that enter california come from, im sure i may run across more than a handgun. and im sure many veteran cops have come accross weird shit on stops all throughout the state.

3) im rather disappointed in the fact that a simple question that didnt pose any particular stance on gun control laws, but was meant to illicit what i hoped would be an intellegent response was misunderstood by so many. The point of me asking this question was so I can understanding why someone would want to own a gun of that power & so i can broaden my horizions and understand something i havent been exposed too. I would hope more people would be brave enough to ask about things they dont understand. thanks for those who read my question as it was presented and gave me an informational response.

If your going to be dealing near the border you'll most likely be running into AKs or other weapons. ARs are usually too much money for regular gang members and drug dealers to buy.

They say if ARs were cheaper Terrorist groups would have them instead of AKs

Posted by liftedF150 (Member # 868) on :

quote:
Originally posted by DLo:

quote:
Originally posted by liftedF150:
Your first mistake was thinking people on here are smart. People will find any excuse to start talking shit and then everybody jumps on the band wagon. Most of the literate people understood your question so you have nothing to apologize about. I was wondering the same thing.
I'll bite. You should think about it from the side of some of the gun owner's/lover's views. Typically that question is probably heard a lot by many of the gun grabbers or those who are anti gun. I'm not saying they are right to attack right off the bat, but the way that question has been worded is probably not the type of question a lot of those gun enthusiasts like to hear, hence the immediate personal attacks. Touchy subject.... these evil assault rifles.

I dont know maybe it was typed out of context, but i think all he was wondering was why he had it, was it because hes a gun colector or just for fun to shoot out at the range and what not. I dont think its a evil question just curosity (sp)

Posted by 87#184saleen (Member # 6276) on :

quote:
Originally posted by liftedF150:

quote:
Originally posted by DLo:

quote:
Originally posted by liftedF150:
Your first mistake was thinking people on here are smart. People will find any excuse to start talking shit and then everybody jumps on the band wagon. Most of the literate people understood your question so you have nothing to apologize about. I was wondering the same thing.
I'll bite. You should think about it from the side of some of the gun owner's/lover's views. Typically that question is probably heard a lot by many of the gun grabbers or those who are anti gun. I'm not saying they are right to attack right off the bat, but the way that question has been worded is probably not the type of question a lot of those gun enthusiasts like to hear, hence the immediate personal attacks. Touchy subject.... these evil assault rifles.
I dont know maybe it was typed out of context, but i think all he was wondering was why he had it, was it because hes a gun colector or just for fun to shoot out at the range and what not. I dont think its a evil question just curosity (sp)

I WANT IT TO GO OUT TO THE RANGE AND HAVE FUN & TAKE CARE OF MY CAR THERES TO MANY COONS OUT THERE lol j/k [Big Grin]

[ March 07, 2008, 06:28 PM: Message edited by: 87#184saleen ]

Posted by WRS92GT (Member # 5008) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 532Fastback:
They say if ARs were cheaper Terrorist groups would have them instead of AKs

AK's are more readily available for two reasons. During the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991 there were reported to be somewhere in the ballpark of close to 2 million AK-47's and AK-74's smuggled out of the former CCCP by arms dealers. Couple that with pretty much most Eastern Block countries like Hungary, Czech Republic, Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Iran, Iraq, Poland, China, Egypt, etc all manufacture AK series rifles under their own names. Most AK's in this country ARE NOT actual Russian AK's. Russian AK's in this country are worth a decent amount of money.

Also Mikhail Kalashnikov knew how to manufacture a battle rifle. Eugene Stoner while revolutionizing the "assault rifle" really produced a high dollar pile of shit. It wasn't until other manufacture's (Heckler & Koch's HK416, Armalite, FN Herstal, etc) picked up government contracts for producing M16 series rifles did the quality overall change for the better. Still to this day I would rock a 5.45 AK-74 any day of the week over any of my AR's.

[ March 07, 2008, 03:48 PM: Message edited by: WRS92GT ]

Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :

quote:
Originally posted by WRS92GT:

quote:
Originally posted by 532Fastback:
They say if ARs were cheaper Terrorist groups would have them instead of AKs
Russian AK's in this country are worth a decent amount of money.

Posted by ChrisS (Member # 6699) on :

quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:

quote:
Originally posted by WRS92GT:

quote:
Originally posted by 532Fastback:
They say if ARs were cheaper Terrorist groups would have them instead of AKs
Russian AK's in this country are worth a decent amount of money.

pics or stfu

Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :

this guy is gettin all kinds of crap for postin a legal ar. imagine if i post some of my stuff......i dont think so.

u can come to my house and find out, i'll even leave the door open [Smile]

Posted by liftedF150 (Member # 868) on :

quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:
this guy is gettin all kinds of crap for postin a legal ar. imagine if i post some of my stuff......i dont think so.

u can come to my house and find out, i'll even leave the door open

im pritty sure NOBODY is giving him crap about a AR15.... you might want to re read what people were saying...

Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :

meant it differently, not neccasaraly(sp) crap. dont feel like quoting and explaining what i meant

Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:
meant it differently, not neccasaraly(sp) crap. dont feel like quoting and explaining what i meant

i understand what you mean.

Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 532Fastback:

quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:
meant it differently, not neccasaraly(sp) crap. dont feel like quoting and explaining what i meant
i understand what you mean.

its just that i dont wanna hear "thats illegal" or "why do u have that" and what not.

[ March 08, 2008, 10:10 PM: Message edited by: F8LSN8K ]

Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on :

quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:
this guy is gettin all kinds of crap for postin a legal ar. imagine if i post some of my stuff......i dont think so.

u can come to my house and find out, i'll even leave the door open

oh oh oh i want to see [Big Grin]

Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Pure Stang:

quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:
this guy is gettin all kinds of crap for postin a legal ar. imagine if i post some of my stuff......i dont think so.

u can come to my house and find out, i'll even leave the door open
oh oh oh i want to see

i was referering to unwanted quest, but ur cool [Big Grin]

i'd feel bad for the person that trys to break into my house and finds out what i really have [Eek!]

i'll post a pic of almost every bullet i have to each gun

Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :

here ya go...... [Big Grin]

12 guage.......ak...... .44......... .40...... .357....... 9mm

all those bullets besides 12 gauge and ak go to alot more than one gun [Wink]

[ March 09, 2008, 04:29 PM: Message edited by: F8LSN8K ]

Posted by 95GTConvtACE (Member # 6399) on :

First of all to each their own. I would personally love to own a gun but when I was younger, I made some stupid decisions with guns that landed me in jail for a few months. I love guns for the simple joy of shooting them. Its just like the fascination I have for Video games, Paint balling, Fast Cars and Fast Bikes. Does not make me a killer. Now that I am much more mature at the age of 32, I would trust myself with a gun. I would take it to the shooting range where it is a controlled environment. And by the way, that AR15 is bad ass.

Posted by 8Notch9 (Member # 2901) on :

quote:
Originally posted by WRS92GT:

quote:
Originally posted by 532Fastback:
They say if ARs were cheaper Terrorist groups would have them instead of AKs
AK's are more readily available for two reasons. During the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991 there were reported to be somewhere in the ballpark of close to 2 million AK-47's and AK-74's smuggled out of the former CCCP by arms dealers. Couple that with pretty much most Eastern Block countries like Hungary, Czech Republic, Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Iran, Iraq, Poland, China, Egypt, etc all manufacture AK series rifles under their own names. Most AK's in this country ARE NOT actual Russian AK's. Russian AK's in this country are worth a decent amount of money.

Also Mikhail Kalashnikov knew how to manufacture a battle rifle. Eugene Stoner while revolutionizing the "assault rifle" really produced a high dollar pile of shit. It wasn't until other manufacture's (Heckler & Koch's HK416, Armalite, FN Herstal, etc) picked up government contracts for producing M16 series rifles did the quality overall change for the better. Still to this day I would rock a 5.45 AK-74 any day of the week over any of my AR's.

I would take an AK over a M-4 and a M-16. I can do anything you want to an AK and that bastard will still fire. Gotta love that reliability.

Posted by 87#184saleen (Member # 6276) on :

but how accurate is the ak47 against the ar15 [Big Grin]

Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 87#184saleen:
but how accurate is the ak47 against the ar15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6BpI3xD6h0&feature=related
AR hands down

Posted by ChrisS (Member # 6699) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 8Notch9:

quote:
Originally posted by WRS92GT:

quote:
Originally posted by 532Fastback:
They say if ARs were cheaper Terrorist groups would have them instead of AKs
AK's are more readily available for two reasons. During the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991 there were reported to be somewhere in the ballpark of close to 2 million AK-47's and AK-74's smuggled out of the former CCCP by arms dealers. Couple that with pretty much most Eastern Block countries like Hungary, Czech Republic, Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Iran, Iraq, Poland, China, Egypt, etc all manufacture AK series rifles under their own names. Most AK's in this country ARE NOT actual Russian AK's. Russian AK's in this country are worth a decent amount of money.

Also Mikhail Kalashnikov knew how to manufacture a battle rifle. Eugene Stoner while revolutionizing the "assault rifle" really produced a high dollar pile of shit. It wasn't until other manufacture's (Heckler & Koch's HK416, Armalite, FN Herstal, etc) picked up government contracts for producing M16 series rifles did the quality overall change for the better. Still to this day I would rock a 5.45 AK-74 any day of the week over any of my AR's.
I would take an AK over a M-4 and a M-16. I can do anything you want to an AK and that bastard will still fire. Gotta love that reliability.

yea fuck accuracy!! anything over 100 yards and the ak is relatively worthless.

Posted by WRS92GT (Member # 5008) on :

quote:
Originally posted by ChrisS:

quote:
Originally posted by 8Notch9:

quote:
Originally posted by WRS92GT:

quote:
Originally posted by 532Fastback:
They say if ARs were cheaper Terrorist groups would have them instead of AKs
AK's are more readily available for two reasons. During the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991 there were reported to be somewhere in the ballpark of close to 2 million AK-47's and AK-74's smuggled out of the former CCCP by arms dealers. Couple that with pretty much most Eastern Block countries like Hungary, Czech Republic, Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Iran, Iraq, Poland, China, Egypt, etc all manufacture AK series rifles under their own names. Most AK's in this country ARE NOT actual Russian AK's. Russian AK's in this country are worth a decent amount of money.

Also Mikhail Kalashnikov knew how to manufacture a battle rifle. Eugene Stoner while revolutionizing the "assault rifle" really produced a high dollar pile of shit. It wasn't until other manufacture's (Heckler & Koch's HK416, Armalite, FN Herstal, etc) picked up government contracts for producing M16 series rifles did the quality overall change for the better. Still to this day I would rock a 5.45 AK-74 any day of the week over any of my AR's.
I would take an AK over a M-4 and a M-16. I can do anything you want to an AK and that bastard will still fire. Gotta love that reliability.
yea fuck accuracy!! anything over 100 yards and the ak is relatively worthless.

Actually both the 7.62X39 and the 5.56 rounds are virtually shitty after 100 yards. The 7.62X39 round has the literal knock down power you need but is quite a bit slower than the 5.56 which after 100 yards lacks knock down power. Remember that the 5.56 round is really only a .22LR hopped up on steroids. Inside it's optimal kill zone the 5.56 is great because it tumbles upon entry into a soft target where as the 7.62X39 keeps right on truckin.

The Russian's saw this in the 1960's and 1970's and introduced the 5.45X39 "Poison Bullet" fired from the AK-74 & Krinkov series rifles. We the US only now are moving to a heavier cartridge to compensate longer distance knock down power and accuracy issues with the 6.8mm SPC.

Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 532Fastback:

quote:
Originally posted by 87#184saleen:
but how accurate is the ak47 against the ar15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6BpI3xD6h0&feature=related
AR hands down

That's a bad comparison. What if the other dude with the AK is just a horrible shot?

Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by DLo:

quote:
Originally posted by 532Fastback:

quote:
Originally posted by 87#184saleen:
but how accurate is the ak47 against the ar15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6BpI3xD6h0&feature=related
AR hands down
That's a bad comparison. What if the other dude with the AK is just a horrible shot?

Its from the discovery channel and i think they are both owners of the guns they are shooting.

Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :

quote:
Originally posted by liftedF150:

quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:
DAAAAAAMMMMN. i hadnt been able to check this post for a while. but let me clarify some things.

1) my main concern by posting this is to understand the rationale behind wanting to own an AR-15. equate it to someone asking you why do you want to own an 800hp street car. the question is not meant to offend but to gain information and insight. I dont have an extensive background with weaponry so excuse my calling it an "assault" rifle

2) as im starting my long journey with chp im very aware that i will not be responding to house calls but mainly working the highways. My mention of me possibly joining chp was for you to understand why i asked the question i did. I dont expect to be seeing many rifles like an AR-15 but should i end up in the border division where much of the drugs that enter california come from, im sure i may run across more than a handgun. and im sure many veteran cops have come accross weird shit on stops all throughout the state.

3) im rather disappointed in the fact that a simple question that didnt pose any particular stance on gun control laws, but was meant to illicit what i hoped would be an intellegent response was misunderstood by so many. The point of me asking this question was so I can understanding why someone would want to own a gun of that power & so i can broaden my horizions and understand something i havent been exposed too. I would hope more people would be brave enough to ask about things they dont understand. thanks for those who read my question as it was presented and gave me an informational response.
Your first mistake was thinking people on here are smart. People will find any excuse to start talking shit and then everybody jumps on the band wagon. Most of the literate people understood your question so you have nothing to apologize about. I was wondering the same thing.

Funny that you call yourself literate but the question was far illiterate from the beginning. Educate yourself on fire arms then youll see whos literate and whos not. Its a freedom. It doesnt matter if he bought the gun to make a bong out of it. People forget it was armed civilians who made this country. NOT THE GOV'T!. If you dont own a firearm borrow one from a friend and see how good you sleep. [patriot]

Posted by ChrisS (Member # 6699) on :

quote:
Originally posted by WRS92GT:

quote:
Originally posted by ChrisS:

quote:
Originally posted by 8Notch9:

quote:
Originally posted by WRS92GT:

quote:
Originally posted by 532Fastback:
They say if ARs were cheaper Terrorist groups would have them instead of AKs
AK's are more readily available for two reasons. During the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991 there were reported to be somewhere in the ballpark of close to 2 million AK-47's and AK-74's smuggled out of the former CCCP by arms dealers. Couple that with pretty much most Eastern Block countries like Hungary, Czech Republic, Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Iran, Iraq, Poland, China, Egypt, etc all manufacture AK series rifles under their own names. Most AK's in this country ARE NOT actual Russian AK's. Russian AK's in this country are worth a decent amount of money.

Also Mikhail Kalashnikov knew how to manufacture a battle rifle. Eugene Stoner while revolutionizing the "assault rifle" really produced a high dollar pile of shit. It wasn't until other manufacture's (Heckler & Koch's HK416, Armalite, FN Herstal, etc) picked up government contracts for producing M16 series rifles did the quality overall change for the better. Still to this day I would rock a 5.45 AK-74 any day of the week over any of my AR's.
I would take an AK over a M-4 and a M-16. I can do anything you want to an AK and that bastard will still fire. Gotta love that reliability.
yea fuck accuracy!! anything over 100 yards and the ak is relatively worthless.
Actually both the 7.62X39 and the 5.56 rounds are virtually shitty after 100 yards. The 7.62X39 round has the literal knock down power you need but is quite a bit slower than the 5.56 which after 100 yards lacks knock down power. Remember that the 5.56 round is really only a .22LR hopped up on steroids. Inside it's optimal kill zone the 5.56 is great because it tumbles upon entry into a soft target where as the 7.62X39 keeps right on truckin.

The Russian's saw this in the 1960's and 1970's and introduced the 5.45X39 "Poison Bullet" fired from the AK-74 & Krinkov series rifles. We the US only now are moving to a heavier cartridge to compensate longer distance knock down power and accuracy issues with the 6.8mm SPC.

a buddy has a 6.8 ar and im in love!!! TRUST me as an owner of both i can say that the .223 is WAY more accurate at 100 yards or more. it has alot to do with the gun though not so much the ammo. and im right there with ya, id rely on a 7.62 rd doing more damage than a .223/5.56. but if you miss id doesnt make much difference lol

[ March 11, 2008, 12:59 AM: Message edited by: ChrisS ]

Posted by ChrisS (Member # 6699) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:

quote:
Originally posted by liftedF150:

quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:
DAAAAAAMMMMN. i hadnt been able to check this post for a while. but let me clarify some things.

1) my main concern by posting this is to understand the rationale behind wanting to own an AR-15. equate it to someone asking you why do you want to own an 800hp street car. the question is not meant to offend but to gain information and insight. I dont have an extensive background with weaponry so excuse my calling it an "assault" rifle

2) as im starting my long journey with chp im very aware that i will not be responding to house calls but mainly working the highways. My mention of me possibly joining chp was for you to understand why i asked the question i did. I dont expect to be seeing many rifles like an AR-15 but should i end up in the border division where much of the drugs that enter california come from, im sure i may run across more than a handgun. and im sure many veteran cops have come accross weird shit on stops all throughout the state.

3) im rather disappointed in the fact that a simple question that didnt pose any particular stance on gun control laws, but was meant to illicit what i hoped would be an intellegent response was misunderstood by so many. The point of me asking this question was so I can understanding why someone would want to own a gun of that power & so i can broaden my horizions and understand something i havent been exposed too. I would hope more people would be brave enough to ask about things they dont understand. thanks for those who read my question as it was presented and gave me an informational response.
Your first mistake was thinking people on here are smart. People will find any excuse to start talking shit and then everybody jumps on the band wagon. Most of the literate people understood your question so you have nothing to apologize about. I was wondering the same thing.
Funny that you call yourself literate but the question was far illiterate from the beginning. Educate yourself on fire arms then youll see whos literate and whos not. Its a freedom. It doesnt matter if he bought the gun to make a bong out of it. People forget it was armed civilians who made this country. NOT THE GOV'T!. If you dont own a firearm borrow one from a friend and see how good you sleep.

with gun control there never would have been an American Revolution [Wink]

and i sleep GREAT with my xd40 and winchester 1300 within reach, and feel safe with my xd in the truck any time i drive as well [Big Grin]

Posted by Dave50 (Member # 5238) on :

Ive been to Texas and Im ready to elect the whole state as the new Gov't. You guys kick ass!

Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :

I put my 9 in my safe for one night and that night i didn't sleep good, so its back next to my bed again [Smile]

Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 532Fastback:
I put my 9 in my safe for one night and that night i didn't sleep good, so its back next to my bed again

glock in a case on the night stand and 12 gauge (loaded with slug....spread....slug....spread....etc....) in the closet by my bed. i sleep just fine [Big Grin]

Posted by BlackDrop50 (Member # 1715) on :

Nice Upper.

I'm too lazy and I don't want to mess with zealous feds. I also don't like those fixed mags. Thinking of going with a Springfield M1A instead of an AR.

Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :

http://cbs5.com/video/?cid=129
They have admitted in the news that they are legal, just don't step in the bullshit

[ March 19, 2008, 02:55 AM: Message edited by: 532Fastback ]

Posted by 2K3GT (Member # 8282) on :

I have a Knight Armnament Upper and DPMS Lower both purchased and assembled in '92.

I have good accuracy over my friends AK at over 100 yards, and that is with a 18" barrel.

And hey if you miss a few times, that is why you have a case of 30 round clips purchased before the ban!

Posted by 87#184saleen (Member # 6276) on :

now complete

Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :

Looks good have you shot it yet?

Posted by Cm4hawks (Member # 5231) on :

whats the gran total on that beautiful thing?

Posted by 87#184saleen (Member # 6276) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Cm4hawks:
whats the gran total on that beautiful thing?

$2000

Posted by BlowN67 (Member # 4229) on :

You should really take the sticker of the back of the lock with the code on it. cause now i'm coming over breaking in unlocking the gun an gonnablast u with it...
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made u look at the lock though..

shit looks tight. can that be legal to own, isnt that straight army shit u got there.

Posted by NavidR (Member # 3164) on :

quote:
Originally posted by F8LSN8K:

quote:
Originally posted by 532Fastback:
I put my 9 in my safe for one night and that night i didn't sleep good, so its back next to my bed again
glock in a case on the night stand and 12 gauge (loaded with slug....spread....slug....spread....etc....) in the closet by my bed. i sleep just fine

LOL when did you come to my house? I got the same set up. Oh ya I live in a good neighbor hood but its for safety

Posted by liftedF150 (Member # 868) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Dave50:

quote:
Originally posted by liftedF150:

quote:
Originally posted by 50 Deep:
DAAAAAAMMMMN. i hadnt been able to check this post for a while. but let me clarify some things.

1) my main concern by posting this is to understand the rationale behind wanting to own an AR-15. equate it to someone asking you why do you want to own an 800hp street car. the question is not meant to offend but to gain information and insight. I dont have an extensive background with weaponry so excuse my calling it an "assault" rifle

2) as im starting my long journey with chp im very aware that i will not be responding to house calls but mainly working the highways. My mention of me possibly joining chp was for you to understand why i asked the question i did. I dont expect to be seeing many rifles like an AR-15 but should i end up in the border division where much of the drugs that enter california come from, im sure i may run across more than a handgun. and im sure many veteran cops have come accross weird shit on stops all throughout the state.

3) im rather disappointed in the fact that a simple question that didnt pose any particular stance on gun control laws, but was meant to illicit what i hoped would be an intellegent response was misunderstood by so many. The point of me asking this question was so I can understanding why someone would want to own a gun of that power & so i can broaden my horizions and understand something i havent been exposed too. I would hope more people would be brave enough to ask about things they dont understand. thanks for those who read my question as it was presented and gave me an informational response.
Your first mistake was thinking people on here are smart. People will find any excuse to start talking shit and then everybody jumps on the band wagon. Most of the literate people understood your question so you have nothing to apologize about. I was wondering the same thing.
Funny that you call yourself literate but the question was far illiterate from the beginning. Educate yourself on fire arms then youll see whos literate and whos not. Its a freedom. It doesnt matter if he bought the gun to make a bong out of it. People forget it was armed civilians who made this country. NOT THE GOV'T!. If you dont own a firearm borrow one from a friend and see how good you sleep.

I know people are alowed to have guns, no one is questioning that, was just a simple question cause its obvous hes not going to go deer hunting with it.... And I sleep just fine without a gun, sounds like you need to move to a new neighborhood.... Im all for guns im not aposing them at all, btw looks bad ass man have fun.

Posted by 87#184saleen (Member # 6276) on :

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made u look at the lock though..

shit looks tight. can that be legal to own, isnt that straight army shit u got there.

Posted by v-town coupe (Member # 2771) on :

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Originally posted by F8LSN8K:
here ya go......

12 guage.......ak...... .44......... .40...... .357....... 9mm

all those bullets besides 12 gauge and ak go to alot more than one gun

wolf ammo is the devil stop using that asap!!! it almost destroyed my mini 14.

Posted by v-town coupe (Member # 2771) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 87#184saleen:
but how accurate is the ak47 against the ar15

Posted by v-town coupe (Member # 2771) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 532Fastback:

quote:
Originally posted by 89saleen:
Getting a concealed carry permit within city limits here in California is like an act of God. Been denied 2x and Im ex-military.
I believe any AR type weapon that is sold for civilian use in California now must have a fixed magazine regardless of capacity. Overall weapon length must be no shorter than 30 inches. No flash supressors. No bayonet lugs. No collapsible butt-stocks. There is also questions about pistol grips now. People that legally purchased, owned & registered an AR-15 or variant prior to 1993 were sent a letter by the state requiring them to either turn in their weapon at a designated "surrender" site or to have the weapon modified to conform to the new required laws. THE LAWS ARE ALWAYS CHANGING. So please dont get angry or dispute my statements because every time you look up the laws, they will be different. And I am not a book of facts so I could be wrong now. But this is what I know . I also do also know that Hillary C. has some wild wild ideas on what she will do with U.S. gun laws if she ends up in office. Again, nothing personal about that either. My opinions...
You can have all the "Evil Features" that you said you can't have as long as you have a fixed magazine the magazine has to be a 10 round, if you want a detachable magazine you can't have a pistol grip, flash suppressor or any "Evil Feature"

The Lower reciever must be off the ban list for california

sorry to flood the thread with a bunch of post but i am getting ready to start building an ar my self and the one loop hole i found is yes u can have all of the "evil features" if u have a "fixed" or "pinned" magazine and if u get one of these here:
http://www.tenpercentfirearms.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=265
the ar now takes what they consider to be a "tool" to detach the magazine and from there u are all good cause in the description of an assualt rifle
they describe it as having a "detachable" magazine and if it uses a "tool" to take it out it is not considered "detachable". just my .02

Posted by 95GTConvtACE (Member # 6399) on :

My fiance said I can't get one. Can I borrow it for a sec so that I could buy one? lol.

Posted by v-town coupe (Member # 2771) on :

if u decide to experiment take a day trip up to reno. i have a few big clips i keep up at my cousins house out there for a day trips to go shoot'n. its not a ar-15 but heres a pic from our last trip up there. mini 14 with a 30rd clip. and i just ordered a synthetic stock for it, i finally decided the wood one was too old man looking!

[ March 21, 2008, 02:22 AM: Message edited by: v-town coupe ]

Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by v-town coupe:

quote:
Originally posted by 532Fastback:

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Originally posted by 89saleen:
Getting a concealed carry permit within city limits here in California is like an act of God. Been denied 2x and Im ex-military.
I believe any AR type weapon that is sold for civilian use in California now must have a fixed magazine regardless of capacity. Overall weapon length must be no shorter than 30 inches. No flash supressors. No bayonet lugs. No collapsible butt-stocks. There is also questions about pistol grips now. People that legally purchased, owned & registered an AR-15 or variant prior to 1993 were sent a letter by the state requiring them to either turn in their weapon at a designated "surrender" site or to have the weapon modified to conform to the new required laws. THE LAWS ARE ALWAYS CHANGING. So please dont get angry or dispute my statements because every time you look up the laws, they will be different. And I am not a book of facts so I could be wrong now. But this is what I know . I also do also know that Hillary C. has some wild wild ideas on what she will do with U.S. gun laws if she ends up in office. Again, nothing personal about that either. My opinions...
You can have all the "Evil Features" that you said you can't have as long as you have a fixed magazine the magazine has to be a 10 round, if you want a detachable magazine you can't have a pistol grip, flash suppressor or any "Evil Feature"

The Lower reciever must be off the ban list for california
sorry to flood the thread with a bunch of post but i am getting ready to start building an ar my self and the one loop hole i found is yes u can have all of the "evil features" if u have a "fixed" or "pinned" magazine and if u get one of these here:
http://www.tenpercentfirearms.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=265
the ar now takes what they consider to be a "tool" to detach the magazine and from there u are all good cause in the description of an assualt rifle
they describe it as having a "detachable" magazine and if it uses a "tool" to take it out it is not considered "detachable". just my .02

Yep, did you watch the video i posted? The DOJ admit on national TV that the fixed magazine is legal.

Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j71VD4aiFg
Don't listen to all the BS they spread, all the guns they show are illegal weapons and not california compliant but they are trying to put the california ones and the illegal ones in the same group which isn't true.

[ March 21, 2008, 11:24 AM: Message edited by: 532Fastback ]

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Posted by liftedF150 (Member # 868) on :

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Originally posted by v-town coupe:
if u decide to experiment take a day trip up to reno. i have a few big clips i keep up at my cousins house out there for a day trips to go shoot'n. its not a ar-15 but heres a pic from our last trip up there. mini 14 with a 30rd clip. and i just ordered a synthetic stock for it, i finally decided the wood one was too old man looking!

hey i have those same shoes haha

Posted by ChrisS (Member # 6699) on :

note to everybody, unless you're talking about your m1 garand, please stop referring to MAGAZINES as clips. thank you.

Posted by v-town coupe (Member # 2771) on :

quote:
Originally posted by liftedF150:

quote:
Originally posted by v-town coupe:
if u decide to experiment take a day trip up to reno. i have a few big clips i keep up at my cousins house out there for a day trips to go shoot'n. its not a ar-15 but heres a pic from our last trip up there. mini 14 with a 30rd clip. and i just ordered a synthetic stock for it, i finally decided the wood one was too old man looking!

hey i have those same shoes haha

get the same rifle as me and we can be twins!!LOL

Posted by liftedF150 (Member # 868) on :

ahhh i wish

Posted by DLo (Member # 6133) on :

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Originally posted by ChrisS:
note to everybody, unless you're talking about your m1 garand, please stop referring to MAGAZINES as clips. thank you.

What's the maximum capacity for a clip I can own in california?

Posted by v-town coupe (Member # 2771) on :

10 round clip or mag

Posted by 9COBRA3 (Member # 4216) on :

damn...i lost one of those to the fmt pd...thanks to my cuzin

Posted by v-town coupe (Member # 2771) on :

went and bought a forged lower receiver last sunday its time to start building my AR!!

Posted by Joooestang66 (Member # 2828) on :

I want to build/buy one. I've been all over Calguns.net and haven't found a place that lays out what you need in stone. Salesman at the gun room say the only CA legal AR is the Bushmaster that breaks a way, then I read that I can buy a complete AR with detachable clip. The AR with a detechable clip can only have a 10 round mag, no telescoping stock, rail, or grip, to my understanding. If I have any accessories I have to modify the mag release button so it's a fixed magazine unless I use a tool to remove it. If that's the case, why not buy a complete and add accessories to it? I've gotten so many answers I don't know whats what.

Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :

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Originally posted by Joooestang66:
I want to build/buy one. I've been all over Calguns.net and haven't found a place that lays out what you need in stone. Salesman at the gun room say the only CA legal AR is the Bushmaster that breaks a way, then I read that I can buy a complete AR with detachable clip. The AR with a detechable clip can only have a 10 round mag, no telescoping stock, rail, or grip, to my understanding. If I have any accessories I have to modify the mag release button so it's a fixed magazine unless I use a tool to remove it. If that's the case, why not buy a complete and add accessories to it? I've gotten so many answers I don't know whats what.

I am not sure what your saying but owning a complete AR without a magazine lock is illegal. Now if you talking about buying a complete AR without the pistol grip, telescoping stock or any of the other "Evil Features" and keeping it that way its legal. You'll have to ask a gun shop that sells complete rifles if they'll sell you a non "evil feature" one but if your going to just buy a complete AR you might as well just buy one with everything you want on it.

Posted by Joooestang66 (Member # 2828) on :

Thanks for the info! Any shops in Sacramento that would have someone knowledgeable in this area? The Gun Room in EG hasnt been of much help. I haven't been the Wild Sports in a while and the Great Outdoors is now closed.

Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :

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Originally posted by Joooestang66:
Thanks for the info! Any shops in Sacramento that would have someone knowledgeable in this area? The Gun Room in EG hasnt been of much help. I haven't been the Wild Sports in a while and the Great Outdoors is now closed.

i don't think there is any gun shops in Sac that sell complete ARs but the original poster might be able to give you info on where he bought his AR

Posted by 87#184saleen (Member # 6276) on :

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[ April 15, 2008, 05:24 PM: Message edited by: 87#184saleen ]

Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :

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Originally posted by NavidR:

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Originally posted by F8LSN8K:

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Originally posted by 532Fastback:
I put my 9 in my safe for one night and that night i didn't sleep good, so its back next to my bed again
glock in a case on the night stand and 12 gauge (loaded with slug....spread....slug....spread....etc....) in the closet by my bed. i sleep just fine
LOL when did you come to my house? I got the same set up. Oh ya I live in a good neighbor hood but its for safety

my neighborhood is ok.......but still better safe than sorry.

Posted by Rookie07gt (Member # 7536) on :

quote:
Originally posted by DLo:

that's just too funny man! [Big Grin]

Posted by v-town coupe (Member # 2771) on :

if u dont want an ar with a fixed mag or a mag lock u can get one of these but i personally dont like the way the way they look.

http://www.californiarifles.com/

im personally going to opt for the mag lock(the bullet mag) cause using a bullet or a little hex key to push the button is not that big of deal to me. just remember the rifle has to be 30" in total length and has to have a 16" barrel for it to be legit as well.

Posted by 87#184saleen (Member # 6276) on :

quote:
Originally posted by v-town coupe:
if u dont want an ar with a fixed mag or a mag lock u can get one of these but i personally dont like the way the way they look.

http://www.californiarifles.com/

im personally going to opt for the mag lock(the bullet mag) cause using a bullet or a little hex key to push the button is not that big of deal to me. just remember the rifle has to be 30" in total length and has to have a 16" barrel for it to be legit as well.

mine is a 14.5" big and it still a ca legal go to www.cmmginc.com

[ April 16, 2008, 11:08 AM: Message edited by: 87#184saleen ]

Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 87#184saleen:

quote:
Originally posted by v-town coupe:
if u dont want an ar with a fixed mag or a mag lock u can get one of these but i personally dont like the way the way they look.

http://www.californiarifles.com/

im personally going to opt for the mag lock(the bullet mag) cause using a bullet or a little hex key to push the button is not that big of deal to me. just remember the rifle has to be 30" in total length and has to have a 16" barrel for it to be legit as well.
mine is a 14.5" big and it still a ca legal go to <a href="http://www.cmmginc.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.cmmginc.com</a>

but you put a fake can on it or something right?

Posted by 4.6 EATIN GM'S (Member # 1633) on :

a couple weeks ago i picked up a yugo sks and this past weekend i bought a spikes tatical complete lower, now i just have to wait the 10 days and i can go pick it up.it has the bullet button on it.now i need to find a upper at a decent price.does anyone have a link on where i can find a decent priced complet upper to finish it?

Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 4.6 EATIN GM'S:
a couple weeks ago i picked up a yugo sks and this past weekend i bought a spikes tatical complete lower, now i just have to wait the 10 days and i can go pick it up.it has the bullet button on it.now i need to find a upper at a decent price.does anyone have a link on where i can find a decent priced complet upper to finish it?

http://www.tenpercentfirearms.com

Posted by Joooestang66 (Member # 2828) on :

Here's my build that's 95% done.

-RRA M4 flat top
-RRA lower, match trigger assembly
-UTG Quad Rail
-Tango Down Grip
-Magpul collapsable stock
-Uncle Mikes 3 point sling
-EOTech 512.a65 holosight
-EOTech 3X magnifier
-Hogue grip

And it's new baby brother

Posted by MustangNate (Member # 4559) on :

Here's a pic of my Mosin Nagant 91/30 and Hi-Point C9 compact.

Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :

i need to go shooting , its been a while.

Posted by Black88GT (Member # 394) on :

I love the black sig, here is my wifes 229. What a nice gun.

[ October 26, 2008, 12:46 AM: Message edited by: Black88GT ]

Posted by 87#184saleen (Member # 6276) on :

nice ar15 man [patriot]

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