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Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :
 
Well I miss the old days, unless I am not finding it anymore. When Friday and Saturday nights were spent hanging out with like 20-30 Mustangs. Not just street racing but just hanging out talking about Mustangs, and Cops really didnt mess with us. Now it seems like if I finish my two project Mustangs I will have to worry the Cops and worry about going to the REF, that sucks. 1990 to 1996 I remember some crazy nights in San Jose, Union City, Livermore, Pleaston, Brentwood, Oakland and San Francisco, also when you could race someone on the Freeway at 2am and there would be no one else on the Freeway so you had all the room you wanted to play. Is there still a place that Mustangs could gather every week and not worry about Cops. Back in the day there were cruises in San Francisco, San Jose and Modesto that were the thing to do and Cops didnt care as long as you kept things moving and nothing got out of conrol. Now with the price of gas I think people arent going to bring their Mustangs out much.
 
Posted by SlowStockFox (Member # 1081) on :
 
its true. it use to be fun. now you cant go out without being hasseled. it use to be so busy out lots of nice cars. oh well maybe it will come back soon. lol
 
Posted by EPIKMACH (Member # 7481) on :
 
I wasnt around the Mustang scene in the old days, but I feel where your coming from....Out here in Sac, it seems like knowone wants to cruise anymore...Someone who is heavily concerned with gas prices need to sell there stang & get a Yaris....Set something up & me & my buddies are always down to cruise, chill & talk mustangs, or whatever....Im cool on the whole sideshow thing, but dont have a problem with a late night street race.... [patriot]
 
Posted by NorCalRydaz (Member # 3233) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
Well I miss the old days, unless I am not finding it anymore. When Friday and Saturday nights were spent hanging out with like 20-30 Mustangs. Not just street racing but just hanging out talking about Mustangs, and Cops really didnt mess with us. Now it seems like if I finish my two project Mustangs I will have to worry the Cops and worry about going to the REF, that sucks. 1990 to 1996 I remember some crazy nights in San Jose, Union City, Livermore, Pleaston, Brentwood, Oakland and San Francisco, also when you could race someone on the Freeway at 2am and there would be no one else on the Freeway so you had all the room you wanted to play. Is there still a place that Mustangs could gather every week and not worry about Cops. Back in the day there were cruises in San Francisco, San Jose and Modesto that were the thing to do and Cops didnt care as long as you kept things moving and nothing got out of conrol. Now with the price of gas I think people arent going to bring their Mustangs out much.
Lee it's cause all the old folks like you ruined it for the youngsters like me!
 
Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :
 
No it was the Import guys and the youngsters that ruined it.
 
Posted by 532Fastback (Member # 1482) on :
 
It got ruined by idiots.
If you want to have a gathering you need to do it in the country where cops still appreciate nice cars.
 
Posted by Pittsburg Mustang Owner (Member # 6100) on :
 
blame the fast and the furious
 
Posted by 00SLVRGT (Member # 4509) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Pittsburg Mustang Owner:
blame the fast and the furious
lol pretty much....
 
Posted by BlowN67 (Member # 4229) on :
 
LEE, do u know someone back in 98-99 who might of had an lite yellow colored fox vert with an roll cage that sounded pretty nasty mean?
 
Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :
 
Sorry, I dont remember.
 
Posted by 89dropteezyLX (Member # 2385) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
Well I miss the old days, unless I am not finding it anymore. When Friday and Saturday nights were spent hanging out with like 20-30 Mustangs. Not just street racing but just hanging out talking about Mustangs, and Cops really didnt mess with us. Now it seems like if I finish my two project Mustangs I will have to worry the Cops and worry about going to the REF, that sucks. 1990 to 1996 I remember some crazy nights in San Jose, Union City, Livermore, Pleaston, Brentwood, Oakland and San Francisco, also when you could race someone on the Freeway at 2am and there would be no one else on the Freeway so you had all the room you wanted to play. Is there still a place that Mustangs could gather every week and not worry about Cops. Back in the day there were cruises in San Francisco, San Jose and Modesto that were the thing to do and Cops didnt care as long as you kept things moving and nothing got out of conrol. Now with the price of gas I think people arent going to bring their Mustangs out much.
California Edition
 
Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :
 
I was one the original guys in California Edition, back then California Edition and 5.0 Unlimited were the main Mustang clubs.
 
Posted by forced331 (Member # 1270) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
I was one the original guys in California Edition, back then California Edition and 5.0 Unlimited were the main Mustang clubs.
I was in California Edition also! Those were the good old days. Cruising in Santa Clara on El Camino and hanging out.
 
Posted by LS1EATR (Member # 2702) on :
 
true the old days were hella sick.... [Smile]
 
Posted by wickedstang (Member # 7692) on :
 
Well out in Salinas we go out to the spot around 11ish and then go to the runs till around 3ish sometimes.. Cops out here leave us Domestics alone they go after the Ricers. lol [Big Grin]
 
Posted by mikeP (Member # 4489) on :
 
awe the strip on el camino, santa clara..man that was some good stuff right there. police wouldnt trip just divert traffic when it got out of hand but i remember cops just watching on the side talking to people enjoying the scene. haha man that was cool in my opinion as long as you were cool it was all good to cruise [Smile] life has surely changed since those days........remember they tried to hand out flyers to start up another strip in mateo near hillsdale mall? cool topic racirX [Cool] [patriot]

[ November 08, 2007, 11:40 PM: Message edited by: mikeP ]
 
Posted by STANGUP_FAM (Member # 7736) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
Well I miss the old days, unless I am not finding it anymore. When Friday and Saturday nights were spent hanging out with like 20-30 Mustangs. Not just street racing but just hanging out talking about Mustangs, and Cops really didnt mess with us. Now it seems like if I finish my two project Mustangs I will have to worry the Cops and worry about going to the REF, that sucks. 1990 to 1996 I remember some crazy nights in San Jose, Union City, Livermore, Pleaston, Brentwood, Oakland and San Francisco, also when you could race someone on the Freeway at 2am and there would be no one else on the Freeway so you had all the room you wanted to play. Is there still a place that Mustangs could gather every week and not worry about Cops. Back in the day there were cruises in San Francisco, San Jose and Modesto that were the thing to do and Cops didnt care as long as you kept things moving and nothing got out of conrol. Now with the price of gas I think people arent going to bring their Mustangs out much.
Judging by what you just wrote, the good ole days are still around. My car club will take a cruise at least twice a month. Just this past Sunday, even after the drama from 880 we took a cruise. 18 cars deep, drove past the police station and parked at our usual spot. We hung out, talked for a little while, Highway patrol rolled past, checked us out and kept it moving. This is what we've been doing all summer. So to me, the good ole days are still around.

But I do have to admit, San Jose is the most strict. If you look like you're thinking about racing they'll charge you. lol. Union City, Hayward, Oakland, Richmond, Santa Clara, Santa Cruz, Half Moon Bay, San Francisco, Berkeley, Dublin, Concord and Pleasanton are the places we have taken cruises and we haven't been harrassed by the police. Not saying you should ride with us, but if you find a nice group of people that know when to hit the gas and know when to keep it chill, the police won't mess with you guys.

Roy V.P.
 
Posted by liftedF150 (Member # 868) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by STANGUP_FAM:
quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
Well I miss the old days, unless I am not finding it anymore. When Friday and Saturday nights were spent hanging out with like 20-30 Mustangs. Not just street racing but just hanging out talking about Mustangs, and Cops really didnt mess with us. Now it seems like if I finish my two project Mustangs I will have to worry the Cops and worry about going to the REF, that sucks. 1990 to 1996 I remember some crazy nights in San Jose, Union City, Livermore, Pleaston, Brentwood, Oakland and San Francisco, also when you could race someone on the Freeway at 2am and there would be no one else on the Freeway so you had all the room you wanted to play. Is there still a place that Mustangs could gather every week and not worry about Cops. Back in the day there were cruises in San Francisco, San Jose and Modesto that were the thing to do and Cops didnt care as long as you kept things moving and nothing got out of conrol. Now with the price of gas I think people arent going to bring their Mustangs out much.
Judging by what you just wrote, the good ole days are still around. My car club will take a cruise at least twice a month. Just this past Sunday, even after the drama from 880 we took a cruise. 18 cars deep, drove past the police station and parked at our usual spot. We hung out, talked for a little while, Highway patrol rolled past, checked us out and kept it moving. This is what we've been doing all summer. So to me, the good ole days are still around.

But I do have to admit, San Jose is the most strict. If you look like you're thinking about racing they'll charge you. lol. Union City, Hayward, Oakland, Richmond, Santa Clara, Santa Cruz, Half Moon Bay, San Francisco, Berkeley, Dublin, Concord and Pleasanton are the places we have taken cruises and we haven't been harrassed by the police. Not saying you should ride with us, but if you find a nice group of people that know when to hit the gas and know when to keep it chill, the police won't mess with you guys.

Roy V.P.
O no its not any were near like the good old days.... I remember hangin out at in and out in livermore every friday sat and we would have at least 50 + cars filling up the parking lot, everybody just chillin, then go hit the occasional race down the street then come back.

ahhh i do miss them, nobody doing stupid shit to ruin the party
 
Posted by STANGUP_FAM (Member # 7736) on :
 
O no its not any were near like the good old days.... I remember hangin out at in and out in livermore every friday sat and we would have at least 50 + cars filling up the parking lot, everybody just chillin, then go hit the occasional race down the street then come back.

ahhh i do miss them, nobody doing stupid shit to ruin the party [/qb][/QUOTE]I agree. As far as your good ole days, they may be different from mines. I feel I can do more and have more fun in my mustang now, then back in 2000. As far as the 90's, I'm guess they were pretty good too. Fast and the Furious may have screwed that up. I guessing the 80's were even better. Both my brothers had mustangs in the 80's and they rarely had any problems.

[ November 09, 2007, 12:28 AM: Message edited by: STANGUP_FAM ]
 
Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
Well I miss the old days, unless I am not finding it anymore. When Friday and Saturday nights were spent hanging out with like 20-30 Mustangs. Not just street racing but just hanging out talking about Mustangs, and Cops really didnt mess with us. Now it seems like if I finish my two project Mustangs I will have to worry the Cops and worry about going to the REF, that sucks. 1990 to 1996 I remember some crazy nights in San Jose, Union City, Livermore, Pleaston, Brentwood, Oakland and San Francisco, also when you could race someone on the Freeway at 2am and there would be no one else on the Freeway so you had all the room you wanted to play. Is there still a place that Mustangs could gather every week and not worry about Cops. Back in the day there were cruises in San Francisco, San Jose and Modesto that were the thing to do and Cops didnt care as long as you kept things moving and nothing got out of conrol. Now with the price of gas I think people arent going to bring their Mustangs out much.
I was caught street racing a TT Talon in South Idaho at over 130 MPH around 3AM a few years ago. The cop just asked me to call it a night and thanked me for waiting for a spot on the HW where there wasn't any traffic! [Eek!]

After that we just cruised, cops everywhere, but they just didn't care as long as you where being somewhat safe and not drinking. California is a terrible place to live if you are a car enthusiast. When I get the itch to drive my car I go on vacation, trailor it to another state, and drive it the whole time! [Big Grin] [burnout]
 
Posted by 50DADDY (Member # 3076) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
No it was the Import guys and the youngsters that ruined it.
Like it or not thats the truth of it right there!
When i started street racing the cops used to come check out our cars and bullshit with us for a minute.Then they'd leave and tell us to be careful.
[patriot]
 
Posted by Yellow94GT (Member # 431) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 50DADDY:
quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
No it was the Import guys and the youngsters that ruined it.
Like it or not thats the truth of it right there!
When i started street racing the cops used to come check out our cars and bullshit with us for a minute.Then they'd leave and tell us to be careful.
[patriot]
For the most part, it is not the people who actually own FAST cars causing problems, its the pieces of shit that have slow ass cars, racing in populated areas killing people and giving us all a bad rep. [Mad] [Mad] [Mad]
 
Posted by 50DADDY (Member # 3076) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Yellow94GT:
quote:
Originally posted by 50DADDY:
quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
No it was the Import guys and the youngsters that ruined it.
Like it or not thats the truth of it right there!
When i started street racing the cops used to come check out our cars and bullshit with us for a minute.Then they'd leave and tell us to be careful.
[patriot]
For the most part, it is not the people who actually own FAST cars causing problems, its the pieces of shit that have slow ass cars, racing in populated areas killing people and giving us all a bad rep. [Mad] [Mad] [Mad]
[worship]
 
Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :
 
Do some of you guys remember cruising Broadway in San Francisco? I remember doing burn outs in the tunnel.
 
Posted by SF89lLx (Member # 3965) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
Do some of you guys remember cruising Broadway in San Francisco? I remember doing burn outs in the tunnel.
haha that would be tight,, my friend and i raced a couple of times through the tunnel.. scary ish though when you come out..
but i 'm pretty young but i'ma have to say that everything has been kind of ruined with the "hyphy movement" [Whoo Whooooo!]
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
Hahah the back old days!! I remember when i first got into the 5.0 game..

Who here remembers Ross's LOCKDOWN crew, Team Untouchablez, ALLIANCE.. I use to hang out with those guys back then..

Wow, those friday nights when i use to sneak out the house and roll the stang down the street and pop the clutch so moms dont hear it. I would go straight to 3Com park, Carrol St, Brotherhood Way, Canada Rd(san mateo), Depot & Industrial off Hayward, Tracy (moutain house rd), San Jose runs, Oakland by the containers, Skyline freeway-line-ups, Burlingame safeway meets.

Memories...... [burnout] [patriot] [worship]
 
Posted by DTS CREW (Member # 3303) on :
 
[/qb][/QUOTE]For the most part, it is not the people who actually own FAST cars causing problems, its the pieces of shit that have slow ass cars, racing in populated areas killing people and giving us all a bad rep. [Mad] [Mad] [Mad] [/QB][/QUOTE]

thats the truth!
 
Posted by N8 (Member # 6048) on :
 
I know someone is gonna disagree, but when it comes to the old days I actually miss the sideshows of the early 90's and very late 80's (showing my age now). Back then it was more about showing off your car (not abusing it but we did do burnouts and nuts), poppin at ladies, kickin back and overall just having a good time. Now when I see it, its a bunch of large useless buckets with flows and 24's. Nothing wrong with flows and 24's but that where it ends. Doors be mismatched cars be all dented. I think the youth stopped caring about their cars personally. It more about who can do the dumbest shit and ladies? They dont care about the ladies. They wanna smoke, fight and run into shit. It used to be one of the few times you can see 69 ville, Subranny Park, Seminary, The tre's and Murder Dubs get together with no funk at all. Then everyone either head to the club, or to Emeryville Denny's... Kids these days are missing out on so much

[ November 09, 2007, 09:45 AM: Message edited by: N8 ]
 
Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :
 
like some ppl here i'm a little older. the good old days are long gone. i to remember when you could go to the street races hang out all night shit talking about who had the fastest car make 20 runs if you wanted to with no problems. or when pacific ave in stockton was packed with ppl crusing all night. i still remember when some dudes used a shotgun to shoot chicks in motown. thats what kill the sceene there. shit now if you go to the street races and beat some want to be thug in his 15 sec honda first thing he does is pull out a gun and start waying it around talking shit. the thug mentality is what killed the races and cruies. no one wants to have to worry about getting shot becuase you won a race.
or the drunk ass ppl that only just go to the spots to start trouble. they don't race just like to start shit. they break shit whip shitys leave trash and broken bottles, then wonder why they get a hassled. the cops can't just sit while ppl get shot properety broken or stolen.
it wasn't the imports that killed it. it was the want to be thugs sideshowing shooting stomping out cars that killed it. [Mad]


the old days are gone!


ps. sorry about the rant.
 
Posted by Camaro Kid Z/28 (Member # 3100) on :
 
i remember cruising mt gran torino sport on the el camino,story road,santa clara st. downtown san jose, everyone would hang out at the Weinder dog and it would be packed on the strip! girls everywhere,no helmet law back then! we would go out to milpitas,union,city south side of san jose(bailey etc) and raced for hours upon end! this was back in the 80-90's those were the good old days! [Frown]
 
Posted by forced331 (Member # 1270) on :
 
I remember Baily RD, Automall, halfmoon bay, etc.
Those days are gone!
 
Posted by STANGUP_FAM (Member # 7736) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by N8:
I know someone is gonna disagree, but when it comes to the old days I actually miss the sideshows of the early 90's and very late 80's (showing my age now). Back then it was more about showing off your car (not abusing it but we did do burnouts and nuts), poppin at ladies, kickin back and overall just having a good time. Now when I see it, its a bunch of large useless buckets with flows and 24's. Nothing wrong with flows and 24's but that where it ends. Doors be mismatched cars be all dented. I think the youth stopped caring about their cars personally. It more about who can do the dumbest shit and ladies? They dont care about the ladies. They wanna smoke, fight and run into shit. It used to be one of the few times you can see 69 ville, Subranny Park, Seminary, The tre's and Murder Dubs get together with no funk at all. Then everyone either head to the club, or to Emeryville Denny's... Kids these days are missing out on so much
I agree, The sideshow is not what it used to be. Stomping on cars that don't perform well, scrappers riding down MAC 60,70,80 MPH is not cool. I hopped on in the mid to late 90's and it was still a good enviroment for me. There was still females there and you can see some nice cars. old school 5.0's and IROC's. Now, about a few months ago I came across a sideshow going home and saw nothing but buckets. Looked like a rolling junkyard. At the currrent moment, you won't see a nice car at the sideshow, because the consequences are too big. 1) get your car stomped, or 2) get your car towed. too much to loose and not enough to gain.
 
Posted by xcessive50 (Member # 2995) on :
 
ah yes, at 40 years old,i go back to the san mateo days in the early/mid 80's when we would cruise all night if we wanted and go race at canada rd.(actually been to some canada races not so long ago,has been a few years though) i can remember yelling out windows to girls and friends,riding in the back of friends trucks,parking at any spot we could,and even short stop light to stop light runs without any trouble. Then came the crackdown and santa clara was the place to be and that was pretty cool too for a while. san fran was always a hot spot and still is but not really for hot rods anymore though i've had some fun at brotherhood and great highway as recent as 5 or 6 years ago. [Big Grin] But i have to agree,it's definately not the same anymore.Not by a longshot.

[ November 09, 2007, 03:46 PM: Message edited by: xcessive50 ]
 
Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by xcessive50:
ah yes, at 40 years old,i go back to the san mateo days in the early/mid 80's when we would cruise all night if we wanted and go race at canada rd.(actually been to some canada races not so long ago,has been a few years though) i can remember yelling out windows to girls and friends,riding in the back of friends trucks,parking at any spot we could,and even short stop light to stop light runs without any trouble. Then came the crackdown and santa clara was the place to be and that was pretty cool too for a while. san fran was always a hot spot and still is but not really for hot rods anymore though i've had some fun at brotherhood and great highway as recent as 5 or 6 years ago. [Big Grin] But i have to agree,it's definately not the same anymore.Not by a longshot.
Ahh yes, great highway! That was down the street from where i use to live. I remember how i'd goto work on Mondays and couldn't wait for Friday to hit 9pm when the phone would start buzzing!

I remember how the street races were going on at multiple spots at one time. So when cops would show up at one spot, we'd have another 30 cars racing 10 minutes away.

Im pretty sure those days wont come anymore [Frown]

[ November 09, 2007, 05:37 PM: Message edited by: AL STOCK ]
 
Posted by Camaro Kid Z/28 (Member # 3100) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by forced331:
I remember Baily RD, Automall, halfmoon bay, etc.
Those days are gone!
[worship] [worship]
 
Posted by Eddie510- (Member # 2354) on :
 
Damn well the good ole days i was about 15 and i use to sit passenger with my buddies. I have to say its not like before but ITS STILL OUT THERE. Mostly every fri sat , me and our friends go to the meets, and can talk for about 5am about cars mostley FOX years [Razz] We just had some private runs thurs night,actullay there been alot of private runs mon-thurs these past couple of weeks [patriot] good decent cars too.Just dont tell that many people, because like you all said it will get ruined. but the there is meets still if ya want to hang on out fri-sat 10:30 pm at nation burgers in hayward. Ill be there tonight to watch and hang out. There is some idiots but i just ignore them

[ November 09, 2007, 10:07 PM: Message edited by: Eddie510- ]
 
Posted by cummins (Member # 5931) on :
 
I used to go to Baylands in Fremont back in the day when I was a kiddie. We used to race at Canada road all night long. No one got hurt. No one did sideshows. Just line up and race. Unfortunately I had a bad losing record over there. Damn stock 84 GN couldn't cut the mustard! Wish I would have kept it though!
 
Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :
 
Eddie, any 10 to 11 second cars that come out?
 
Posted by Eddie510- (Member # 2354) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
Eddie, any 10 to 11 second cars that come out?
Yup, maybe not 10's though lee, only one id say gill's 442 or jermz z28
 
Posted by bigscoop50 (Member # 7618) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
No it was the Import guys and the youngsters that ruined it.
i dnt agree with u because i see al kinds of cars and ppl acting stupid its nt really about wat you drive its how u act and all that. bt ricers are still dumb [patriot] ,

me and my buddies street race [Big Grin] and we'll get 2 gether and cruise wit our team and a couple others on sunday nights we havent had any problems with the police, we usaull start in hayward and end up in millpitas, and pull over some where and jus [BS flag]
 
Posted by bigscoop50 (Member # 7618) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Eddie510-:
quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
Eddie, any 10 to 11 second cars that come out?
Yup, maybe not 10's though lee, only one id say gill's 442 or jermz z28
hey eddie remeber wen we used 2 stay out wit the boyz and b.s wait never mind we still do we did last night hah cops dnt even put mind 2 us its thoes idiots that giv us a bad name
 
Posted by Eddie510- (Member # 2354) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bigscoop50:
quote:
Originally posted by Eddie510-:
quote:
Originally posted by racsirx:
Eddie, any 10 to 11 second cars that come out?
Yup, maybe not 10's though lee, only one id say gill's 442 or jermz z28
hey eddie remeber wen we used 2 stay out wit the boyz and b.s wait never mind we still do we did last night hah cops dnt even put mind 2 us its thoes idiots that giv us a bad name
yeah, very true,like that idiot in the parking lot trying to act cool and drift through the parking lot,thats the guy who ruined it on sat. and to even tell the tard in a nice way to stop you gotta worry these days because everyone has a gun so its not evan worth telling him shit. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by F8LSN8K (Member # 7080) on :
 
im still young so i dont know bout way back in the day, but like eddie said, i can remember riding passanger when i was like 14 in 2001, when my friend had bought a brand new camaro ss, and him, my brother and myself would go to the in n out on capitol expressway and meet up there with my friends crew and chill then head out on to capitol. we would go up and down from light to light all night lookin for cars and racing and not worry bout cops like now. not very many people did the 3 honk rolls if any. people would be outside in n out lined up lookin at capitol and watch people racing up and down. man that was fun! i remember it like it was yesterday and it can never be brought back and its never gonna be the same. those were the good ole days for me, i just shed a tear right now [Frown]

[ November 11, 2007, 10:49 AM: Message edited by: F8LSN8K ]
 
Posted by castor (Member # 2765) on :
 
I miss the OLD days when Pierce St. Annex Wednesdays was the shit, Saturday nite DV8's, and Friday nite Touche dodgin' bullets.
 
Posted by ModularMotorz (Member # 5954) on :
 
Missin the burlingame meets before the cops started going car by car in the lot looking for fix-it tickets to issue. That and some good runs with a good hundred cars in tracy....... even cruising 6 stangs deep to mountain house.... smashing on ricers on every freeway heading there...... memories.... [Frown]
 




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