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Originally posted by svt306snake:
bring the strap dawg j/k just go and talk to them like you said face to face dont act like you and i both like to until no head way is made or you keep getting fed bullshit

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Originally posted by t top freak:
its in writing? just show them that and mention better buisness bureau

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Yeah its in definite writing. The thing is, they like to waste her time, everytime she goes there, they pull fake things off and tell her different things. LIke the DSC traction thing, they told her that its for a CD player and its not going to work.. They keep bullshittin with her.
 

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Posted by luvmy5.0 (Member # 6699) on :
 
threaten legal action, or void the contract as stated above, and buy a car elsewhere
 

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
Can you void the contract or return the car? She also traded in her other car for this car..
 

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Posted by luvmy5.0 (Member # 6699) on :
 
im not sure.....i would suggest legal help if youre that concerned about it. Is the car still under warranty? If it is take it and have it fixed at another dealership, then take the one you bought it from to small claims if you have to come out of pocket
 

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
Yeah im concerned now since the sales guy told me that was going to fix everything then denies everything. They gave her 2 year warranty which i doubt is legit. I will double check tomorrow.
 

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Posted by Jmir018 (Member # 1414) on :
 
what does it say on the Bill of sale.
Precisely, what does it say? does it specifically identify each item that's malfunctioning and/or defective that you want fix?
please post that so people can advise you correctly as to what possible outs you might have.
good luck.

Dealerships are always like that.
My buddy bought a bmw also, it was missing the little knob to move the seat forward. well.. they put it on witting that they would replace it. and they did( a couple of days later). well.. the seat wouldn't work. and after some arguing, technically they were right, they replaced the switch but there was nothing stipulating the condition of the actual module.
Bs.. but that's how it works. =(

Used cars are sold as is.. with no implied warranty unless, ofcrouse, it's stated. if there are scratches of whatever and you were smart enough to get them to promise to fix those in writting then my hats off to you.
Just be careful, don't expect them to paint your whole bumper if anything they'll just touch it up with some cheap as paint... same with the dsc botton, warranties don't cover missing bottoms, unless.. once again. it's specifically stated in wrtting.
good luck man.
Good luck

[ September 20, 2006, 01:50 AM: Message edited by: Jmir018 ]
 

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
I dont have the writings infront of me but before she bought the car, she gave me a call and i told her make sure you make them sign a paper stating they are going to fix everything you told them.. She made a list of things that needed to be fixed and they agreed and signed the paper. But they are denying it now since the main owner "AMIN" is out of state for a few weeks. They keep claiming that "AMIN" is declining to fix anything on the car. SO im talking everything written to them to their face and im pretty sure we will have a result tomorrow either one from me or one by them

Worse comes to worse, if they decline, they only have about 30 cars in the lot, now if they are being that cheap to fix little scratches on her car, they're going to be fixing scratches on the rest of those 30 cars LOL
 

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Posted by 68_428_Fastback (Member # 1482) on :
 
BMW = Big Money Waster

[ September 20, 2006, 02:11 AM: Message edited by: 68_428_Fastback ]
 

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Posted by The Camaro Z-28 Kid (Member # 3100) on :
 
well, i ve learned working at a dealership is "the squeaky wheel gets the grease!" take it to the next higher person in charge or return the car if possible! see if they have a customer serive rep or take it too corp office if they're a bmw dealership.
 

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Posted by 87#184saleen (Member # 6276) on :
 
i think you have 30 days to return it i think
 

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Posted by EASTBAY5_0 (Member # 3292) on :
 
i would take it straight back and demand my money back. they are such a pos dealer for doing you dirty IMO.
 

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Posted by Dag302 (Member # 4682) on :
 
As far as I remember everytime I have bought a car there is like a half sheet of paper that is a carbon copy. They usually write on it nothing implied and nothing promised and make you sign that. It has a bunch of lines on it and always is in he envelope with the contract. If they slipped that by her and she signed it she is SOL. If they wrote all the issues and she has a copy I think there is some info on there for legal recourse.
 

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Posted by modular (Member # 6599) on :
 
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[ September 20, 2006, 07:54 AM: Message edited by: modular ]
 

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Posted by Dag302 (Member # 4682) on :
 

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i think you have 30 days to return it i think

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Originally posted by modular:
Its funny salesman are looked at as scum but youre willing to ask for help? I bet his treatment will reflect all salesman in your eyes... However I will help you. Its not a bill of sale but a "Due bill" every deal must be completed with one and I have to know exactly what yours says. They may be legaly responsible but you cant twist his arm if you know what I mean. If your Due bill says youre entitled to all your listed problems you can take him to court (dealerships are always getting sued). Try one more time with you going down there then tell him youre going to take the car to the most expensive and reputable shop you can find and will sue him for the bill. Any verbal agreements are void of course but whatever the due bill says is legaly binding. If you need more help PM me I know ways to get out of the whole deal as well unless she paid cash.

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Originally posted by stangin':
a few years back my uncle bought a used mercedes from a bmw dealership. the car had minor problems, but like your girl, my uncle wanted the car bad. they promised to fix "everything" yet they ended up fixing shit. bmw salesman are worse than the
owners:eek: .

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Originally posted by Dag302:
5 complaints since January 2006

http://www.sacramento.bbb.org/commonreport.html?compid=35000650

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Originally posted by HWRDCUR:
If its a BMW purchased from a BMW dealer, it has the certified BMW warranty if you paid for extra warranty. Everything is covered under warranty, you can take it to any BMW dealership and get it serviced. And if your mileage is under 40k, it should still have maintenance coverage as well. Meaning, oil changes are free, and brakes are free.

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dude. do you read other posts BEFORE you reply? no "ifs" it's "not" a bmw dealer. .. so your whole post can be thrown out cuase it doesn't apply.
 

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
Ok so got back from the dealership without any conclusion or agreement but a verbal altercation with the sales manager and 2 of the sales guys..

I walked in with the paperwork and asked to speak to the highest level manager on duty. One guy came up to me told me follow him to his office.. He knew what this was for by looking at the BMW we brought in. I explained to him whats going on and he jumped to a quick conclusion by saying "Look, i gave this girl a really good deal and we have spent alot of money on this car already"..I told him that i will report this to the BBB and also mentioned contacting the owner of the dealership. He told me i can do whatever i want, they have over 30 lawyers that handle these cases on a daily basis and such. I asked once again to resolve this issue as professionally as possible and yet the sales manager kinda raised his voice which ticked me off.. I told him that all those fucken cars from hurricane Katrina and they are all pieces of shit. I told him that all HIS sales people are fulla shit and lie to customers for a living..


So as i was walking out, there were a bunch of sales guys just standing by the car chit chatting and laughing.

So i left and as we were leaving my girl flipped off the indian sales guy who sold her the car & lied to her about the whole contract thing. He had the nerves to flipp her back off and say "fuck you too bitch", i got out of the car and told the indian dude "what did you say Ghandi?" he kinda backed off and played it off like he didnt say anything so as i was approaching the whole sales crowd infront of the shop, the manager yelled out "just leave and dont come back".. I then told all them that i am leaving since i am with a female but i will be back and definetly will be back for that dark Lord Ganesh Monkey that works there in the tie soon after work.


Ahhh what a day. Im back home now and nothing was resolved. I havent heard from the owner of the shop either. One of my cousins do have his personal cell phone number that he will provide. Im thinking of just submitted everything to the BBB, Sacbee.com, DMV Used Car Sales Investigative Services.

Oh BTW there were more words exchanged but i didnt threaten them in any way, well maybe to Chinpanzee looking indian guy that was there with a funny hair-do, i wish i catch his ass afterwork one day for talking to a female like that.

What do you guys suggest now? COntact the owner? I have a feeling that the owner does not know whats going on behind the scenes of this whole situation.

[ September 20, 2006, 10:20 PM: Message edited by: AL STOCK ]
 

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Posted by luvmy5.0 (Member # 6699) on :
 
damn they did you dirty today....heres some free advice. If youre planning on doing shit, DO NOT post it on here. The less that know th better
 

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Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :
 
its only illegal is you get caught.
 

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 

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its only illegal is you get caught.

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Of course i wouldnt talk about doing anything physical here.. Im just probably maybe possible going to just go back and just give a farewell kiss to the indian guy.. i just miss him

So im handing it over to BBB/Sacbee/KCRU Channel 2 News and DMV Used Sales Car Investigators and let them do whatever.. As for the car.. We are going to leave those little scratches on there but contacting warranty for the rest of the little defects..

THanks guys
 

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Posted by sf89lx (Member # 3965) on :
 

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Originally posted by two-gun kid:
its only illegal is you get caught.

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Of course i wouldnt talk about doing anything physical here.. Im just probably maybe possible going to just go back and just give a farewell kiss to the indian guy.. i just miss him

So im handing it over to BBB/Sacbee/KCRU Channel 2 News and DMV Used Sales Car Investigators and let them do whatever.. As for the car.. We are going to leave those little scratches on there but contacting warranty for the rest of the little defects..

THanks guys

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ABC Channel 7 news,, SEVEN ON YOUR SIDE,,
 

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Posted by twisted54 (Member # 1981) on :
 

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Originally posted by two-gun kid:
its only illegal is you get caught.

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Of course i wouldnt talk about doing anything physical here.. Im just probably maybe possible going to just go back and just give a farewell kiss to the indian guy.. i just miss him

So im handing it over to BBB/Sacbee/KCRU Channel 2 News and DMV Used Sales Car Investigators and let them do whatever.. As for the car.. We are going to leave those little scratches on there but contacting warranty for the rest of the little defects..

THanks guys

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ABC Channel 7 news,, SEVEN ON YOUR SIDE,,

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Originally posted by two-gun kid:
its only illegal is you get caught.

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Of course i wouldnt talk about doing anything physical here.. Im just probably maybe possible going to just go back and just give a farewell kiss to the indian guy.. i just miss him

So im handing it over to BBB/Sacbee/KCRU Channel 2 News and DMV Used Sales Car Investigators and let them do whatever.. As for the car.. We are going to leave those little scratches on there but contacting warranty for the rest of the little defects..

THanks guys

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ABC Channel 7 news,, SEVEN ON YOUR SIDE,,

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Posted by 68_428_Fastback (Member # 1482) on :
 
So the BMW you bought is from New Orleans?
 

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
I didnt buy it, a girl bought it Half of the cars at small lots are known to have problems and i spoke to some dealership personells and they told me that most of the cars at used sales lots are from auctions or from New Orleans after flood damage.. They are making profit over here
 

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Posted by 68_428_Fastback (Member # 1482) on :
 

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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
I didnt buy it, a girl bought it Half of the cars at small lots are known to have problems and i spoke to some dealership personells and they told me that most of the cars at used sales lots are from auctions or from New Orleans after flood damage.. They are making profit over here

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Originally posted by Jmir018:
so, what's the bottom line? do u have anything on writting in the Due Bill?
It seems like you do not, otherwise you would have already stated it otherwise since this has been asked a few times already.
Sorry man, but.. nothing in writting means you are SOL.
Doesn't matter what they say, if you have nothing in writting then they can just kick you out once the transaction is done.

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Originally posted by Jmir018:
so, what's the bottom line? do u have anything on writting in the Due Bill?
It seems like you do not, otherwise you would have already stated it otherwise since this has been asked a few times already.
Sorry man, but.. nothing in writting means you are SOL.
Doesn't matter what they say, if you have nothing in writting then they can just kick you out once the transaction is done.

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I didnt see a due bill from them but there is a paper signed by "JIM" stating that he will "fix everything wrong with the car"..

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says that verbatim/? if so you are sol.. but if it's specific as to what is concidered "bring wrong with the car" you might have some legal ground to complain.

I dunno, i would try once more and then go destroy some of their property.

[ September 21, 2006, 01:14 AM: Message edited by: Jmir018 ]
 

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Posted by mustang928 (Member # 2123) on :
 
What I would do..... this Saturday and Sunday is stand outside(off their property) with a big ole' sign informing potential customers of what they did to your girl and other people.
 

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Posted by GRIGGYJAMESJIMBO (Member # 6319) on :
 
My friend if what you say is true, they have breached a contract. You have a legal case against theese bastards. Get a good lawyer, and get restitutions payed, hopefully it was written in paper and both your girl, and a worker/salesperson with rights signed the paper stating that they in fact were going to fix "everything" hopefully everything goes right. I just read your arguement in pg one and decided to post a comment. Good luck bro. TTT
 

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 

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My friend if what you say is true, they have breached a contract. You have a legal case against theese bastards. Get a good lawyer, and get restitutions payed, hopefully it was written in paper and both your girl, and a worker/salesperson with rights signed the paper stating that they in fact were going to fix "everything" hopefully everything goes right. I just read your arguement in pg one and decided to post a comment. Good luck bro. TTT

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Originally posted by GRIGGYJAMESJIMBO:
My friend if what you say is true, they have breached a contract. You have a legal case against theese bastards. Get a good lawyer, and get restitutions payed, hopefully it was written in paper and both your girl, and a worker/salesperson with rights signed the paper stating that they in fact were going to fix "everything" hopefully everything goes right. I just read your arguement in pg one and decided to post a comment. Good luck bro. TTT

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Thanks, yeah we have already reported it to the BBB and DMV used car sales investigators.

I havent looked closely at the contract but there is a "CONTRACT CANCELLATION" form with one of those forms also.

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Originally posted by GRIGGYJAMESJIMBO:
My friend if what you say is true, they have breached a contract. You have a legal case against theese bastards. Get a good lawyer, and get restitutions payed, hopefully it was written in paper and both your girl, and a worker/salesperson with rights signed the paper stating that they in fact were going to fix "everything" hopefully everything goes right. I just read your arguement in pg one and decided to post a comment. Good luck bro. TTT

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Thanks, yeah we have already reported it to the BBB and DMV used car sales investigators.

I havent looked closely at the contract but there is a "CONTRACT CANCELLATION" form with one of those forms also.

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Take that piece of crap back and get the money back and then find one that doesn't have problems at all.

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DAMN that sucks man. I've haven't heard many good stories about small used car lots.

If they called my wife a bitch though I would have been out of the car and on that motherfucker with a quickness. Don't care how many monkey humpin faggots were there. Line was crossed and there is no turning back. I'm not a big tough guy and most likley would have my ass handed to me but not before I took a couple teeth from that homos face!

Shit make ME mad just reading it. BBB isn't going to do jack and neigther is the DMV investigators. They car less than the fuckin dealership.

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Exactly, the place where they were standing at was the main enterence and where the cameras are at Its cool though, the guy gets off everyday at 9pm and drives a 1996 Lexus Es300 and lives a few blocks away from the dealership .. thats all But u know what they say "Get them when they least expect it and get them good"


And trust me, the Ghandi who called my girl a bitch is going to get what he deserves

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Posted by Jmir018 (Member # 1414) on :
 

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And trust me, the Ghandi who called my girl a bitch is going to get what he deserves

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Posted by Jdub07 (Member # 2728) on :
 

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And trust me, the Ghandi who called my girl a bitch is going to get what he deserves

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 
Update ::


After physical confrontation with Mr Manager Jim, they are now agreeing to fixing everything. Will not go into details what went down but that fucker was shaking like he was pushed into the Antartic accidently.

I made him sign a paper on 9/24/2006 stating that he will take care of everything..

Thanks guys, oh yeah im still going all out with the BBB and News Stations
 

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Posted by luvmy5.0 (Member # 6699) on :
 

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Update ::


After physical confrontation with Mr Manager Jim, they are now agreeing to fixing everything. Will not go into details what went down but that fucker was shaking like he was pushed into the Antartic accidently.

I made him sign a paper on 9/24/2006 stating that he will take care of everything..

Thanks guys, oh yeah im still going all out with the BBB and News Stations

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Update ::


After physical confrontation with Mr Manager Jim, they are now agreeing to fixing everything. Will not go into details what went down but that fucker was shaking like he was pushed into the Antartic accidently.

I made him sign a paper on 9/24/2006 stating that he will take care of everything..

Thanks guys, oh yeah im still going all out with the BBB and News Stations

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when all esle fails, GET PHYSICAL!!!!! LOL @ that faggot shaking like a little bitch. You know he felt all big and bad when he told your lady that they werent gonna do shit, then you punked the FUCK out of him!!! LOL greatness!!

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hope your lady was watching. that would have made it even MORE demeaning.
good luck.
 

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Posted by luvmy5.0 (Member # 6699) on :
 

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Update ::


After physical confrontation with Mr Manager Jim, they are now agreeing to fixing everything. Will not go into details what went down but that fucker was shaking like he was pushed into the Antartic accidently.

I made him sign a paper on 9/24/2006 stating that he will take care of everything..

Thanks guys, oh yeah im still going all out with the BBB and News Stations

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when all esle fails, GET PHYSICAL!!!!! LOL @ that faggot shaking like a little bitch. You know he felt all big and bad when he told your lady that they werent gonna do shit, then you punked the FUCK out of him!!! LOL greatness!!

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hope your lady was watching. that would have made it even MORE demeaning.
good luck.

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Originally posted by Jmir018:
good point.. cuase if anything else goes bad after they fix the little things then you are on your own...

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