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Posted by andyman_2k01 (Member # 1448) on :
 
Mike your mail box has been full so I i'll just post the pics of the damage here and you can see it for yourself.




 

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Posted by andyman_2k01 (Member # 1448) on :
 
if they don't work, give me your e-mail and i'll send them to that.
 

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Posted by Mach0ne351 (Member # 927) on :
 
dude, maybe you should keep this in PMs bro.....

marek
 

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Posted by Hungry Hippo (Member # 537) on :
 
i agree
 

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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 
i wanna see pictures.
 

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Posted by Jmir018 (Member # 1414) on :
 
email them to me.. i'll host them.
Jmir018@aol.com
 

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Posted by 02GeeTee (Member # 5905) on :
 
omfgflamewarz
 

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Posted by Apexmotorsports (Member # 5307) on :
 
Andy,

Please read your PM and let's handle this off the boards. Interesting that you say you have been trying to PM me the pictures... when you have said your digital camera is having problems (through PM).. I have been waiting a week for you to send me the pictures.


Also, I have been recieving PM's the last week without any problems from various members of this board.

Mike Mak
Apex Motorsports
ApexMotorsports.com
2555 Lafayette Suite #122
Santa Clara, CA 95050
Phone: 408/588-0075

Griggs Racing, Maximum Motorsports, SCT, Racelogic, Evolution Motorsports, Eibach, H&R, Bilstein, Ford racing, Kenne Bell, MAC, Bassani, Vortech, AMSoil, Koni, Hawk, AFR, Tokico, Diablosport, $3 Nitrous Refills

[ October 02, 2005, 04:54 PM: Message edited by: Apexmotorsports ]
 

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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 

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Originally posted by 02GeeTee:
omfgflamewarz

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i just want something to look at.
 

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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 
check out this ugly chevy i saw today

 

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Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 

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Originally posted by Mach0ne351:
dude, maybe you should keep this in PMs bro.....

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Seriously, keep your drama to yourself..... You already have one thread full
 

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Posted by Jmir018 (Member # 1414) on :
 






 

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Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :
 

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Originally posted by Apexmotorsports:
Interesting that you say you have been trying to PM me the pictures...

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He said mailbox, not PM's.


Get on the phone, settle this once and for all. We are ALL tired of reading about it. If you or your shop screwed up, man up and make it right.
 

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Posted by Apexmotorsports (Member # 5307) on :
 
John,

I am assuming the mailbox he is refering to is the PM mailbox which was not full. OR if he is refering to my AOL account that is ALSO not full.

As I have said before we will take care of it if it is our fault. I have asked him for over a week to send me the pictures, which he did not. I have tried to resolve this via PM with him.

Also, if he had a problem contacting me via email or PM he could have easily called the shop and they would have given him my other office number or cellphone.

Mike Mak
Apex Motorsports
ApexMotorsports.com
2555 Lafayette Suite #122
Santa Clara, CA 95050
Phone: 408/588-0075

Griggs Racing, Maximum Motorsports, SCT, Racelogic, Evolution Motorsports, Eibach, H&R, Bilstein, Ford racing, Kenne Bell, MAC, Bassani, Vortech, AMSoil, Koni, Hawk, AFR, Tokico, Diablosport, $3 Nitrous Refills

[ October 02, 2005, 05:12 PM: Message edited by: Apexmotorsports ]
 

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Posted by Jmir018 (Member # 1414) on :
 
So. is it your fault or not? Simple yes or no.
You saw the video and I think have had plenty of time to inspect the lift in question. If it is your fault, admit your guilt and your willingness to fix this. if not, then tell the guy to get lost and lets get back to our non dramatic threads.

 

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Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :
 

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Originally posted by JohnB:

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Originally posted by Apexmotorsports:
Interesting that you say you have been trying to PM me the pictures...

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He said mailbox, not PM's.


Get on the phone, settle this once and for all. We are ALL tired of reading about it. If you or your shop screwed up, man up and make it right.

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maybe you put his email on the 'ignore' list? j/k
 

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Posted by Apexmotorsports (Member # 5307) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jmir018:
So. is it your fault or not? Simple yes or no.
You saw the video and I think have had plenty of time to inspect the lift in question. If it is your fault, admit your guilt and your willingness to fix this. if not, then tell the guy to get lost and lets get back to our non dramatic threads.

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Based on the video no. But there is oviously some damage on his door and I will let "HIM" know within 3 days after I have compared the pictures to what I have. If it is our fault, we need to fix it.

Mike Mak
Apex Motorsports
ApexMotorsports.com
2555 Lafayette Suite #122
Santa Clara, CA 95050
Phone: 408/588-0075

Griggs Racing, Maximum Motorsports, SCT, Racelogic, Evolution Motorsports, Eibach, H&R, Bilstein, Ford racing, Kenne Bell, MAC, Bassani, Vortech, AMSoil, Koni, Hawk, AFR, Tokico, Diablosport, $3 Nitrous Refills

[ October 02, 2005, 05:36 PM: Message edited by: Apexmotorsports ]
 

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Posted by Chris C. (Member # 1949) on :
 
the damage done doesnt look like it could have happened from opening the door. If you notice the lip of the door is bent down, almost like something fell on it.
 

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Posted by TrueBlue (Member # 1063) on :
 
I wanted to stay out of this thread but how the hell could you not see that before leaving the shop?..

[ October 02, 2005, 06:18 PM: Message edited by: TrueBlue ]
 

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Posted by Hungry Hippo (Member # 537) on :
 
i can't picture that happening from hitting a lift's post
 

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Posted by Mach0ne351 (Member # 927) on :
 

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Originally posted by Chris C.:
the damage done doesnt look like it could have happened from opening the door. If you notice the lip of the door is bent down, almost like something fell on it.

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Originally posted by Hungry Hippo:
i can't picture that happening from hitting a lift's post

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Originally posted by Mach0ne351:

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Originally posted by Chris C.:
the damage done doesnt look like it could have happened from opening the door. If you notice the lip of the door is bent down, almost like something fell on it.

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Originally posted by Hungry Hippo:
i can't picture that happening from hitting a lift's post

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BOTH I AGREE WITH! there is no way that a lift made those damages from opening the door. if it did happen, damage would be noticeable on the outer most part of the doors lip..not just near the weather stripping....that's just my opinion..

marek

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Originally posted by Mach0ne351:

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Originally posted by Chris C.:
the damage done doesnt look like it could have happened from opening the door. If you notice the lip of the door is bent down, almost like something fell on it.

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Originally posted by Hungry Hippo:
i can't picture that happening from hitting a lift's post

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BOTH I AGREE WITH! there is no way that a lift made those damages from opening the door. if it did happen, damage would be noticeable on the outer most part of the doors lip..not just near the weather stripping....that's just my opinion..

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Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :
 
Let Mike make the call, we'd all like to hear the outcome.


I think it's interesting though that he says there is nothing on tape, yet he wants to look at these pics? "Compared to what you have"? Obviously you have SOMETHING, or you wouldn't have made the statement...
 

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Posted by Fostang (Member # 3752) on :
 
EXCLUSIVE VIDEO OF WORK PERFORMED*****VIEWER DESCRETION IS ADVICED


I don't see anything wrong being performed on customers cars?

[ October 02, 2005, 10:45 PM: Message edited by: Fostang ]
 

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Posted by Apexmotorsports (Member # 5307) on :
 

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Originally posted by JohnB:

I think it's interesting though that he says there is nothing on tape, yet he wants to look at these pics? "Compared to what you have"? Obviously you have SOMETHING, or you wouldn't have made the statement...

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Originally posted by Fostang:
EXCLUSIVE VIDEO OF WORK PERFORMED*****VIEWER DESCRETION IS ADVICED


I don't see anything wrong being performed on customers cars?

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LoL
 

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Posted by Apexmotorsports (Member # 5307) on :
 
John,

I said based on the video it would be "NO". It would be no because it does not have a good angle to show the car was actually hit or damaged.

Ok, you did not say I have something to hide.. sorry about that. BUT you said I have something.. which is not true.... I wanted to give Andy a chance to give me everything he has to prove his case.

Besides, this is a issue between me and Andy. And it will be resolved that way... between me and Andy.

Mike Mak
Apex Motorsports
ApexMotorsports.com
2555 Lafayette Suite #122
Santa Clara, CA 95050
Phone: 408/588-0075

Griggs Racing, Maximum Motorsports, SCT, Racelogic, Evolution Motorsports, Eibach, H&R, Bilstein, Ford racing, Kenne Bell, MAC, Bassani, Vortech, AMSoil, Koni, Hawk, AFR, Tokico, Diablosport, $3 Nitrous Refills

[ October 02, 2005, 11:13 PM: Message edited by: Apexmotorsports ]
 

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Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :
 
Fair enough Mike, I'll agree with that. Best of luck with this soap opera.
 

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Posted by Apexmotorsports (Member # 5307) on :
 

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Originally posted by JohnB:
Fair enough Mike, I'll agree with that. Best of luck with this soap opera.

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Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:

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Originally posted by Mach0ne351:

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Originally posted by Chris C.:
the damage done doesnt look like it could have happened from opening the door. If you notice the lip of the door is bent down, almost like something fell on it.

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Originally posted by Hungry Hippo:
i can't picture that happening from hitting a lift's post

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BOTH I AGREE WITH! there is no way that a lift made those damages from opening the door. if it did happen, damage would be noticeable on the outer most part of the doors lip..not just near the weather stripping....that's just my opinion..

marek

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i agree with that, but he never described fully how it hit and where it hit so we can't really make a judgement.

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but from the look of the damage, if it were to happen, it had to have happened with the door would be closing, and not openning. i dont know how close the door was to the lift, so i really cant make a 100% assumption. my family shop has 2 big lifts, so ive never had a bad experience using them.

by looking at the lifts at apex, they are almost identical to the ones i use...



and the funny thing is, the doors are NEVER passed the lift posts...as you can see from the pic. so, if he backed off the lift, it wouldnt make any difference...the door would have been already clear of danger...

if he put the car on the lift, where the door was PASSED the lift posts, the lift arms would be mid-way on the chassis and the rearaxle haha...that cant be done...im sorry....there is something fishy here. im not taking sides, im just pointing out what is realistic....

marek

[ October 03, 2005, 12:03 AM: Message edited by: Mach0ne351 ]
 

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Posted by Mach0ne351 (Member # 927) on :
 
here's another pic of where the lift arms need to be placed, and where they ONLY should be....



if the car was any further forward on the lift, the rearend would be where 2 arms would need to hold the car up.....common sense..

marek
 

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Posted by andyman_2k01 (Member # 1448) on :
 
ok i just got off work and i've read all the posts.

MachOne351: First off, that isn't even the type of lift that my car was on. It was a 4 post lift not a 2. Your argument here is not precise at all. The lift I was on had 2 platforms that raised up that had 4 beams.

Mr.Stallion was told to reallign my car on the lift more over towards the left. He got in the car, opened the driver's side door, kept it open, then stuck his head out the car, looking back towards the rear of my car, and proceeded to back the car down the lift when the open door struck the rear driver's side beam. If you look at the picture, the hard plastic window guard is cracked too.
 

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Posted by Mach0ne351 (Member # 927) on :
 
i didnt know it was a 4 post lift. if so, then i take my statements back, since they are irrelvant...but if it "did" happen on a 2 post lift, it couldnt have happened....

marek
 

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Posted by andyman_2k01 (Member # 1448) on :
 
Thanks for your info, but it was a 4 post lift. For all that really know me on this board, you know I don't B.S.

Mike-I just sent the pics to your e-mail. And I tried numerous times yesterday and today to get you the pics and it kept saying your box was full.
 

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Posted by HaulinAssMaro (Member # 541) on :
 

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Originally posted by Mach0ne351:

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Originally posted by Chris C.:
the damage done doesnt look like it could have happened from opening the door. If you notice the lip of the door is bent down, almost like something fell on it.

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Originally posted by Hungry Hippo:
i can't picture that happening from hitting a lift's post

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BOTH I AGREE WITH! there is no way that a lift made those damages from opening the door. if it did happen, damage would be noticeable on the outer most part of the doors lip..not just near the weather stripping....that's just my opinion..

marek

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I agree 150%

I wanted to stay out of this but after the 2nd thread about the same thing,its obvious you wanted the WHOLE WORLD invloved....
 

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Posted by Apexmotorsports (Member # 5307) on :
 
Andy,

Only thing I will say to you is, "You are not a man of your word" You posted and sent me a PM stating you wanted to handle this privately off the boards....

Instead of calling the shop OR PM'ing me to empty my box OR emailing me directly... you decided to bring this issue out and invlove everyone again.


Unlike you, I will stick to my word and still look at the pictures you sent me objectively and be unbiased. I will let you know my decision in a couple of days privately.

Mike Mak
Apex Motorsports
ApexMotorsports.com
2555 Lafayette Suite #122
Santa Clara, CA 95050
Phone: 408/588-0075

Griggs Racing, Maximum Motorsports, SCT, Racelogic, Evolution Motorsports, Eibach, H&R, Bilstein, Ford racing, Kenne Bell, MAC, Bassani, Vortech, AMSoil, Koni, Hawk, AFR, Tokico, Diablosport, $3 Nitrous Refills

[ October 03, 2005, 02:18 AM: Message edited by: Apexmotorsports ]
 

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Posted by kingmoochr (Member # 5834) on :
 

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Originally posted by Mach0ne351:

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Originally posted by Chris C.:
the damage done doesnt look like it could have happened from opening the door. If you notice the lip of the door is bent down, almost like something fell on it.

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Originally posted by Hungry Hippo:
i can't picture that happening from hitting a lift's post

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BOTH I AGREE WITH! there is no way that a lift made those damages from opening the door. if it did happen, damage would be noticeable on the outer most part of the doors lip..not just near the weather stripping....that's just my opinion..

marek

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i do think it is possible for a post to damage a car like that. out of my own stupidity, i did the same thing to a car moving it down a driveway. it hit a post hidden in grass, and bent the door lip inwards, as if something had pushed it from the side. the doors are metal, and metal bends when impacted, it doesnt compress uniformly. that could merely be the easiest path for the door lip to take. and as far as it not being the furthest point down the door, its possible that the door was opened PAST the post, which would bring the point of impact inside the door. you can visualize that very well in the overhead shot. if the door were opened beyond the post, it is possible for it to impact in that location. just my analysis from the photos.




that is approximately where i envision the post being. obviously thats not the exact position the post was in nor the angle the door was open, but it helps you visualize how it may have happened.

[ October 03, 2005, 02:22 AM: Message edited by: kingmoochr ]
 

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Posted by Mach0ne351 (Member # 927) on :
 
but do you think that hitting the post at a bare roll of a speed would cause the door to have that much damage too, especially when the door still has some play in it's extension? i can see that can happen if the door was extended all the way, and the post hit it, then too much force was being put on it....i guess you'd need to be there to really see and analyze this puppy to its fullest....best of luck to both parties...

marek
 

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Posted by Eddie510 (Member # 2354) on :
 
serously this should of stayed out of the threads, but my opinion is,,fix it and t make him a happy customer and instead of him telling all his buddies not to go to your shop,liitle shit like that would make me think. but Good Luck to all,this will be last past post on this thread becuase it shouldnt of got posted
 

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Posted by Eddie510 (Member # 2354) on :
 
oh,,, Hey Where is APEX AT NOW? i passed by and its not there on lafyeete st no more(cant spell the street). Whats the new addres and where by, thanks eddie
 

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Posted by Jdub07 (Member # 2728) on :
 
I think the horse is dead,.....
 

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Posted by Mach0ne351 (Member # 927) on :
 

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Originally posted by Eddie510:
oh,,, Hey Where is APEX AT NOW? i passed by and its not there on lafyeete st no more(cant spell the street). Whats the new addres and where by, thanks eddie

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it's actually right next door...the parking lot right next to the old one.....the overhead and rent costs were WAY too high for that small of a place. their new place is way bigger, with a less rental cost...it made sense to move for them...too much overhead can really drive a business into the ground...

marek

[ October 03, 2005, 04:36 PM: Message edited by: Mach0ne351 ]
 

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Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :
 
hopefully this gets resolved soon, and the post locked and deleted soon as well.
 

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Posted by Apexmotorsports (Member # 5307) on :
 
This thread should have never been started as we had an agreement to work it out off the boards. Andy is not a man of his words. BUT, as I have said before... I will take all the information I have and will make a decision in the next 2 days. If we did it we will have it repaired.

Mike Mak
Apex Motorsports
ApexMotorsports.com
2555 Lafayette Suite #122
Santa Clara, CA 95050
Phone: 408/588-0075

Griggs Racing, Maximum Motorsports, SCT, Racelogic, Evolution Motorsports, Eibach, H&R, Bilstein, Ford racing, Kenne Bell, MAC, Bassani, Vortech, AMSoil, Koni, Hawk, AFR, Tokico, Diablosport, $3 Nitrous Refills
 

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Posted by andyman_2k01 (Member # 1448) on :
 
Mike,
Don't say all this crap about how I am not a man of my words. You were telling me that you wanted the pics ASAP. Everytime I tried to send them it said that your pm box was full (i'm assuming due to the registrations of all the people for your recent show). I then tried posting them for you to see on here since you guys are not open sunday and monday, which would mean you obviously wouldn't pick up any phone calls. Since you told me you wanted them ASAP, I had them posted on a thread. Otherwise I would have waited them out. But think, if I had waited any longer you would have probably talked even more garbage about how long it took to get you the pics, when you know that I have been in contact with you about this whole situation the whole time. I told you that I was having trouble transfering photos from my camera to my comp many days ago, I also told you that I had to go out and buy a new camera to take the pics, and meanwhile working 2 jobs and going to school full time limits my time frames to do such things. Please don't act like I never kept you informed of what's going on. You're only putting on a show for the crowd.

Andy
 

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Posted by Apexmotorsports (Member # 5307) on :
 
Andy,

I am definitely not putting on a show for the crowd. You agreed to take care of this situation off the boards but instead of trying to contact me by sending me a email you decided to bring this whole ugly mess to invlove the masses again. Maybe my PM box was full but you could have emailed me, which is listed on this board.

Also, there was no need for me to "talk garbage" as I am a person of my word and had intended to take care of this via PM. I will still look into the matter and will give you a decision by tomorrow.

Mike Mak
Apex Motorsports
ApexMotorsports.com
2555 Lafayette Suite #122
Santa Clara, CA 95050
Phone: 408/588-0075

Griggs Racing, Maximum Motorsports, SCT, Racelogic, Evolution Motorsports, Eibach, H&R, Bilstein, Ford racing, Kenne Bell, MAC, Bassani, Vortech, AMSoil, Koni, Hawk, AFR, Tokico, Diablosport, $3 Nitrous Refills
 

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Posted by Camaro Kid Z/28 (Member # 3100) on :
 
please lock!
 

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Posted by andyman_2k01 (Member # 1448) on :
 
I am assuming you did get my e-mail with the pics then. I will await your pm tomorrow.

Andy
 

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Posted by andyman_2k01 (Member # 1448) on :
 
It's funny how I posted the story on the-stallions.com and my ip address was immediately banned.
 

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Posted by Mach0ne351 (Member # 927) on :
 

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Originally posted by andyman_2k01:
It's funny how I posted the story on the-stallions.com and my ip address was immediately banned.

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Posted by 02GeeTee (Member # 5905) on :
 

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Originally posted by andyman_2k01:
It's funny how I posted the story on the-stallions.com and my ip address was immediately banned.

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I'm surprised that has not happend here yet.


Edit: Why don't you make it easier on yourself, and just delete this thread?

Click on Edit/Delete Post > Check Delete Post Box > Click Edit Post > Viola, no more

[ October 03, 2005, 07:20 PM: Message edited by: 02GeeTee ]
 

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Posted by kingmoochr (Member # 5834) on :
 
because unless you are a mod, you cant delete a thread once other people have posted in it.
 

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Posted by 02GeeTee (Member # 5905) on :
 

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Originally posted by kingmoochr:
because unless you are a mod, you cant delete a thread once other people have posted in it.

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Originally posted by Mach0ne351:

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Originally posted by andyman_2k01:
It's funny how I posted the story on the-stallions.com and my ip address was immediately banned.

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Originally posted by andyman_2k01:
i think it was the same day i posted the 1st thread on here, or the day after.

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Originally posted by Jmir018:
that's bs.. why should he delete this thread? why were you banned from the stallions?
I mean.. is apex a vendor on their site?
I agree this should stop and be settled through pms, but.. i don't see why people are hating on Andy... i don't know the guy but all he's doing is trying to get something that he believes happened at apex resolved.
TTMFT:p

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apex and staillions are like buddy buddy....once again im sorry this happened andy but this is why i always say fukk apex..just my .02 cent

[ October 03, 2005, 08:56 PM: Message edited by: 89 FAKE SNAKE ]
 

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Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :
 
I have a question... why didnt you just drive back down there and talk to him face to face?

Depending on how the email account is setup, its entirely possible that the pics you tried to send were simply over the inbox size limit.

Andy, I'm not blasting you in anyway... but look at it from Chris' point of view... customer came in and had work done, customer left, and then later said there was damage done to the car...

its the timing and the fact that when the incident supposedly took place, nothing was said until later thats killing you.

Apex, you too can understand his frustration, he is saying his car was damaged at your shop.

I'm not siding, I'm just posting on an open forum.

But this -really- should have been handled over the phone, email, pm, or in person...
 

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Posted by 02GeeTee (Member # 5905) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jmir018:
that's bs.. why should he delete this thread? why were you banned from the stallions?
I mean.. is apex a vendor on their site?
I agree this should stop and be settled through pms, but.. i don't see why people are hating on Andy... i don't know the guy but all he's doing is trying to get something that he believes happened at apex resolved.
TTMFT:p

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Originally posted by 02GeeTee:

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Originally posted by Jmir018:
that's bs.. why should he delete this thread? why were you banned from the stallions?
I mean.. is apex a vendor on their site?
I agree this should stop and be settled through pms, but.. i don't see why people are hating on Andy... i don't know the guy but all he's doing is trying to get something that he believes happened at apex resolved.
TTMFT:p

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Because, he already stated it will be gone through over PM right? Plus, he can always go down there, and talk to Mario/Mike/Chris face to face.

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Originally posted by 94gt:

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Originally posted by 02GeeTee:

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Originally posted by Jmir018:
that's bs.. why should he delete this thread? why were you banned from the stallions?
I mean.. is apex a vendor on their site?
I agree this should stop and be settled through pms, but.. i don't see why people are hating on Andy... i don't know the guy but all he's doing is trying to get something that he believes happened at apex resolved.
TTMFT:p

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Because, he already stated it will be gone through over PM right? Plus, he can always go down there, and talk to Mario/Mike/Chris face to face.

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exactly, thats what I would have done, and what should have happened

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But apparently, it hasn't happend. Because he perfers to go and say, "omfgapexpwn3dme!11one"
 

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Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 

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Originally posted by TrueBlue:
This sounds too fishy to me, I wouldn't replace shit.

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Posted by Glenn (Member # 520) on :
 
The damage looks like someone was backing up with the door open, and it hit something.
 

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Posted by Jmir018 (Member # 1414) on :
 
how about we all leave our expertise aside and let this two men handle things.
 

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Posted by 02GeeTee (Member # 5905) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jmir018:
how about we all leave our expertise aside and let this two men handle things.

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Which is exactly why I told him to delete this thread. No point, in posting this. We are all just whoring it up.
 

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Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on :
 
Meet up and put the car on the lift and open the door to see if the damage is in that exact spot Where the damage is on the door. I think it would be pretty obvious once the car was back into the same spot where the damage supposedly occured? Figure out who is at fault and if it was'nt apex's fault Andy should apologize, and if it lines up, apex should stand up and take care of it and keep their reputation good on the board's now that it has become public information.
 

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Posted by shiftylx (Member # 2670) on :
 
and these.......are the days of our lives.....
 

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Posted by Jmir018 (Member # 1414) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jmir018:
how about we all leave our expertise aside and let this two men handle things.

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Which is exactly why I told him to delete this thread. No point, in posting this. We are all just whoring it up.

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Originally posted by Jmir018:
how about we all leave our expertise aside and let this two men handle things.

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Andy SHOULD HAVE handled this like a "man" and kept it off here. "BECAUSE" he posted it here he is subject to everyones opnions.
 

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Posted by Mach0ne351 (Member # 927) on :
 
man! this has gone to 6 pages already....
 

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Posted by BlueOvalRacing (Member # 1531) on :
 

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Originally posted by andyman_2k01:
I've been on this site for well over 3 years with NO DRAMA. For all that know me on this site, know that I am a respectable guy.

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No drama???

Take time out of your busy schedule and go to Apex. Period.
 

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Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :
 

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Originally posted by BlueOvalRacing:
Take time out of your busy schedule and go to Apex. Period.

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Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 

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Originally posted by 94gt:

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Originally posted by BlueOvalRacing:
Take time out of your busy schedule and go to Apex. Period.

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Posted by Fast_Bitch (Member # 2316) on :
 
It should have been locked a while ago why haven’t any of the moderators done anything? Plus it’s no ones business what goes on between Andy and apex...
 

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Posted by 88DroptopGT (Member # 2535) on :
 

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Originally posted by Fast_Bitch:
Plus it’s no ones business what goes on between Andy and apex...

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Then why did he make a thread about it before contacting Apex personally. That's what I would have done.



Oh well.
 

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Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
Ladies......... Leave this thread alone. No point to keep it at the top. Play in street racing
 

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Posted by mach1killa (Member # 5069) on :
 
keep this thread going. i think its interesting and i want to see how apex is going to handle this.
 

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Posted by Motorhead6T5 (Member # 4969) on :
 
Space for rent-9.95/month
 

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Posted by LS1EATR (Member # 2702) on :
 

 

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Posted by putter (Member # 4253) on :
 
Im a natural!
 

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Posted by 9Venom9 (Member # 2805) on :
 
This is still why I got JohnB for all my Ford needs!
 

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Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :
 

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Originally posted by 9Venom9:
This is still why I got JohnB for all my Ford needs!

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ditto
 

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Posted by losbadgt (Member # 4394) on :
 
dawn this is still going on
 

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Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
C'MON LADIES, does adding 50 fucking posts of CRAP make you feel special? Because some people were looking at this thread for the outcome and insight into a problem with a speed shop many here frequent. Go to your "pointless" thread in street racing and have at it. That's what it was made for. Enjoy.........
 

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Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :
 

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Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
C'MON LADIES, does adding 50 fucking posts of CRAP make you feel special? Because some people were looking at this thread for the outcome and insight into a problem with a speed shop many here frequent. Go to your "pointless" thread in street racing and have at it. That's what it was made for. Enjoy.........

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so angry!
 

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Posted by Motorhead6T5 (Member # 4969) on :
 

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Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
C'MON LADIES, does adding 50 fucking posts of CRAP make you feel special? Because some people were looking at this thread for the outcome and insight into a problem with a speed shop many here frequent. Go to your "pointless" thread in street racing and have at it. That's what it was made for. Enjoy.........

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I think you have more pointless post in this thread than anybody

Kettle you are black!
 

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Posted by 02GeeTee (Member # 5905) on :
 

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Originally posted by 94gt:

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Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
C'MON LADIES, does adding 50 fucking posts of CRAP make you feel special? Because some people were looking at this thread for the outcome and insight into a problem with a speed shop many here frequent. Go to your "pointless" thread in street racing and have at it. That's what it was made for. Enjoy.........

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so angry!

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Someone needs to whack it.
 

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Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :
 

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Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
C'MON LADIES, does adding 50 fucking posts of CRAP make you feel special? Because some people were looking at this thread for the outcome and insight into a problem with a speed shop many here frequent. Go to your "pointless" thread in street racing and have at it. That's what it was made for. Enjoy.........

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Don is post-loose-Whore # 1 - Look @ that f*kn post count

On Edit : Whats The Status?

[ October 05, 2005, 04:31 AM: Message edited by: AL STOCK ]
 

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Posted by Jmir018 (Member # 1414) on :
 

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Originally posted by AL STOCK:

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Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
C'MON LADIES, does adding 50 fucking posts of CRAP make you feel special? Because some people were looking at this thread for the outcome and insight into a problem with a speed shop many here frequent. Go to your "pointless" thread in street racing and have at it. That's what it was made for. Enjoy.........

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Don is post-loose-Whore # 1 - Look @ that f*kn post count

On Edit : Whats The Status?

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I don't think they'll let us know the status so.. let's leave this alone..
i wonder how many posts i have..
 

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Posted by Jmir018 (Member # 1414) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jmir018:

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Originally posted by AL STOCK:

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Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
C'MON LADIES, does adding 50 fucking posts of CRAP make you feel special? Because some people were looking at this thread for the outcome and insight into a problem with a speed shop many here frequent. Go to your "pointless" thread in street racing and have at it. That's what it was made for. Enjoy.........

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Don is post-loose-Whore # 1 - Look @ that f*kn post count

On Edit : Whats The Status?

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I don't think they'll let us know the status so.. let's leave this alone..
i wonder how many posts i have..

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912 .. i can't believe i have less than 1k posts given that my member number is 1414....
 

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Posted by andyman_2k01 (Member # 1448) on :
 
moderator please lock this thread down. thank you
 

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