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Posted by 94Blackout (Member # 2541) on :
 
Just went to get my car smogged at a test only, and the place siad they wouldn't do it because of the supercharger? Even with the CARB number an everything... is this the case with all those places or just this place being difficult?
 

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Posted by Hungry Hippo (Member # 537) on :
 
sounds like they are being dicks or dont know how to do their job
 

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Posted by Wolfie351 (Member # 651) on :
 
I've had a couple places refuse to even look at my car when I presented them with EO numbers. One shop even failed me for my STOCK headers.

*edit* Didn't notice you had said it was a test only. I would call the BAR, being a test only station, I don't think they can refuse you.

[ September 12, 2005, 03:16 PM: Message edited by: Wolfie351 ]
 

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Posted by Avengeance (Member # 5163) on :
 
Test Only shops are supposed to "know it all" when it comes to smog. They should have a book with all the CARB #s for aftermarket parts readily available. For them to refuse you is plain rediculous.... try another shop and report the one that turned you away.

I remember smogging my old car that had a CAI and MSD ignition/MSD coil. They whipped out a book and referenced all the CARB#s I had right there and had no problems. Cept the "tech" couldnt find my EGR components... I had to point them out for him.
 

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Posted by HaulinAssMaro (Member # 541) on :
 
Try San Carlos smog in San Carlos.Not sure of the number but the are South of Holley Street on the El Camino.It a little bit of a drive but the guy knows his Carb EO numbers and what is legal and what not.And unfortunalty NO he dosent look the other way but is very fair.give them a try.
 

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Posted by Hungry Hippo (Member # 537) on :
 
that is pretty gay when we have to help eachother just to find a fair smog. from my experience the one in pinole charges you $10 per modification(legal ones) which sounds illegal to me since carb #'s are executive orders as stock replacement. then there's the one in richmond at the jr college, he was pretty fair on the carb#'s but the fucker almost failed me cause he couldnt find my evap cannister which was in the stock location
 

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Posted by WHYT LIE (Member # 5925) on :
 
It is illegal for them to refuse you... if you honestly think you are legal and want to make a stink about it, contact the proper authorities and report them.

And charging $10 per mod/EO number... that does not sound legal either. I've never heard of that. Might be a scam??? Report their ass too.
 

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Posted by blind (Member # 3052) on :
 
sounds like absolute to me, I'd raise a hell of a stink if a smog place refused to test me and I have the CARB # sitting right on the fucken part they are failing me for

[ September 12, 2005, 08:17 PM: Message edited by: blind ]
 

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Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :
 
My Mustang is due for a Smog Only test Since i live up here in the boonies i was thinking of just seeing if i can get away with my cold air intake.
 

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Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 

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Originally posted by Hungry Hippo:
that is pretty gay when we have to help eachother just to find a fair smog. from my experience the one in pinole charges you $10 per modification(legal ones) which sounds illegal to me since carb #'s are executive orders as stock replacement. then there's the one in richmond at the jr college, he was pretty fair on the carb#'s but the fucker almost failed me cause he couldnt find my evap cannister which was in the stock location

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Originally posted by Luke87GT:

Why can't they just put on a damn blindfold, put the sniffer in the tailpipe, STFU, and if it passes, it passes?

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Thats how it should be.
 

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Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 


[ September 14, 2005, 08:29 AM: Message edited by: hidnn.o.s. ]
 

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Posted by WHYT LIE (Member # 5925) on :
 

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Originally posted by Hungry Hippo:
that is pretty gay when we have to help eachother just to find a fair smog. from my experience the one in pinole charges you $10 per modification(legal ones) which sounds illegal to me since carb #'s are executive orders as stock replacement. then there's the one in richmond at the jr college, he was pretty fair on the carb#'s but the fucker almost failed me cause he couldnt find my evap cannister which was in the stock location

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The guy in Pinole is mentally challenged. I was watching him operate and I was in shock that they let this guy out of the mental hopsital. He failed me for claiming that I was on the high side of motor oil on the motor dipstick. I double checked it and was still within ranger. I drove over to El Sobrante and passed 20 minutes later.

The Contra Costa College test only station, 3 years ago, that was the longest I have ever had a stock Mustang looked over. The car had pullies and shorty headers and they examined this thing like it was running on plutonium or something.

Why I got sent to a test only station 2 times in a row is beyond me.

Bottom line, the blind bureaucracy that is today's smog check is despicable.

Why can't they just put on a damn blindfold, put the sniffer in the tailpipe, STFU, and if it passes, it passes?

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Originally posted by Hungry Hippo:
that is pretty gay when we have to help eachother just to find a fair smog. from my experience the one in pinole charges you $10 per modification(legal ones) which sounds illegal to me since carb #'s are executive orders as stock replacement. then there's the one in richmond at the jr college, he was pretty fair on the carb#'s but the fucker almost failed me cause he couldnt find my evap cannister which was in the stock location

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The guy in Pinole is mentally challenged. I was watching him operate and I was in shock that they let this guy out of the mental hopsital. He failed me for claiming that I was on the high side of motor oil on the motor dipstick. I double checked it and was still within ranger. I drove over to El Sobrante and passed 20 minutes later.

The Contra Costa College test only station, 3 years ago, that was the longest I have ever had a stock Mustang looked over. The car had pullies and shorty headers and they examined this thing like it was running on plutonium or something.

Why I got sent to a test only station 2 times in a row is beyond me.

Bottom line, the blind bureaucracy that is today's smog check is despicable.

Why can't they just put on a damn blindfold, put the sniffer in the tailpipe, STFU, and if it passes, it passes?

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While I agree with the bureaucracy behind the smog shit being total crap, I do see a reason why visual inspection should matter.

We all know someone who has used non carb approved parts with a HOT motor and runs fast or makes huge HP and "passes" smog. They find someone who only cares about the tailpipe and doesn't care about visual.

They pass because they use tricks, such as special additives, or tuning, etc. But you know the way they normally drive their car it will pollute more then when they smog tested it.

Now, I don't really give a crap if they do polute more or not... Look at how much polution comes out of ONE airliner, or greyhound bus, or the BILLIONS (yeah, yeah, probably an exageration) of big rigs out there, let along refineries and factories.

They ought to give us an option to prove that we drive less than 10,000 miles a year, or 5,000 or 2,000 and pay a "fine" of $50-$100 a year NOT to smog our cars.

But the fucking hippies would throw a shit fit, and cause MORE polution as they drive their smelly asses to the rallies in their VW buses and Volvo's that pour out more smoke then Dennis Leary on a Comedy stage...

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I totally understand what you are saying, but us car enthusiasts are the extreme minority. And of those car enthusiasts, I would argue that the ones that know smog tricks and are willing to carry them out are also the minority. Also, most car enthusiasts don't use their "hot motored car" as a daily driver. I am putting maybe 20 miles a week on my coupe these days just for pleasure.

I think the Gov would accomplish what it is trying to accomplish and save a lot of time doing it if they just did a sniffer and nothing else.

I just don't believe that us car enthusiasts even come close to making up a significant portion of the pollution problem, as they are making us out to be.
 

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Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
I don't think there is ANYTHING wrong with the type of smog/price/etc they are doing. I would just like for ALL smog techs' to be FULLY knowledgeable in their jobs.
 

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Posted by STROKD (Member # 1668) on :
 
Yep, smog is crap, that is why I am building a 100% Stock 5.0 with the parts that came off my dad's car. We kept EVERY stock bolt, nut, washer, all in boxes for such an issue. Going to build it up and have it on a motor stand, and swap it in the car every other year, get it tested, then come home and put the other blown strokers back in the cars... fuck CA emmissions.

[ September 16, 2005, 06:41 PM: Message edited by: STROKD ]
 

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Posted by Coupe (Member # 3001) on :
 

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Yep, smog is crap, that is why I am building a 100% Stock 5.0 with the parts that came off my dad's car. We kept EVERY stock bolt, nut, washer, all in boxes for such an issue. Going to build it up and have it on a motor stand, and swap it in the car every other year, get it tested, then come home and put the other blown strokers back in the cars... fuck CA emmissions.

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Ya one of the smog shops I went to down here put up a HUGE hissy fit when they saw one shiny washer next to all the other rusty looking ones
 

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Posted by 94Blackout (Member # 2541) on :
 
This was actually the test only station that is on Lafayette, about a block down from APEX. Just went there because I happened to be close, I couldn't believe they turned me away. From the looks of the shop and the idiots running it, I wasn't surprised. I just have never had to go to a Test Only so I didn't know the normal operating procedures for them.

I'll have to find another one, if I gotta go to San Carlos I'll do it.
 

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Posted by 94Blackout (Member # 2541) on :
 
Anybody know of a test only in the South Bay that aren't run by idiots?
 

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Posted by Avengeance (Member # 5163) on :
 

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Originally posted by Coupe:
Ya one of the smog shops I went to down here put up a HUGE hissy fit when they saw one shiny washer next to all the other rusty looking ones

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Right about then I wouldve told them to STFU and do their job... what we do with our cars before and after the smog check is none of their fuckin business.

Most of these clowns dont know shit about cars... fuckin annoys me that they put Autozone drop outs into a position of "authority" to smog cars... and to throw fits about little shit like a friggin washer.

This whole topic gets me heated.. cause Ive never met a REALLY knowledgeable smog tech.

/rant
 

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Posted by 87 Saleen (Member # 1549) on :
 
my friend just got his smog license
 

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Posted by 94Blackout (Member # 2541) on :
 

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Originally posted by 87 Saleen:
my friend just got his smog license

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So where is he at????
 

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