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Posted by klonoa (Member # 1771) on :

http://www.pixelmd.com/KanyeBenefit.wmv

Posted by SmokeyBurnout (Member # 5745) on :

LMAO! What a fuckin idiot!

Posted by shiftylx (Member # 2670) on :

haha, wtf???
http://cgi.ebay.com/Hurricane-Katrina-T-shirt-Kanye-West-George-Bush_W0QQitemZ8331680113QQcategoryZ15687QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[ September 03, 2005, 01:17 PM: Message edited by: shiftylx ]

Posted by klonoa (Member # 1771) on :

ROFL just look at the expression on chris tuckers face. Hhahah Also the other dude too, austin powers.

Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :

all i see is a bunch of letters and question marks in black diamonds [Confused]

Posted by boostin1.8 (Member # 868) on :

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA that shit is great!!

Posted by 02GeeTee (Member # 5905) on :

I am glad I graduated high school.

Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :

Damn. What a tard. [Roll Eyes]

Posted by 1Sicgt (Member # 714) on :

Wow, you can tell he thought through what he was going to say. [Big Grin]

Remember its went from a national tragedy to, hate upon the black man.

Here's a sad fact. If you live in Hurricane Alley, and aren't prepared for the fact of what will happen, there will be death. Dosen't matter white, black, yellow, green or blue. If you don't take the time to think, and prepare you will die.

CA, learned from past earthquakes. Since then they have or are retro fitting all structures up to a code that they deamed to be safe enough. LA, has known for sometime, that they should not keep expanding into areas they did. But city coucil's there approved the sprawl when they shouldn't have, and now people there are paying the price. It's not any one races fault. It's the cities, and towns down there's fault. Instead of forcing companies, and developers to do something stregnthen the leevy system, or look for alternative designs, they just kept building and building, making that dollar, and now the people who live there have paid in the worst way possible.

Stop blaming the cultures or color of a people, blame who really is at fault. [patriot]

Posted by 03SVTPower (Member # 518) on :

lol Austin Powers...Mike Myers.

I think it is true though, George DUB doesnt like black people and could care less about the poverty riddin state! [patriot]

[ September 03, 2005, 02:52 PM: Message edited by: 03SVTPower ]

Posted by 93redcobra (Member # 1344) on :

[Roll Eyes]

Posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' (Member # 895) on :

Thats some freaking Garbage. You would think he could have been able to say something more productive to actually help raise money, not make people hate. Freaking Idiot!

Posted by 86- 50 (Member # 4723) on :

Actually klona, you should look in to who you are talking about, He went to private schools all his life, also a professional artist, and recieved scholarships to about 5 different schools. I bet that is about 5 more than you had. You should think about who your calling an idiot.
PS. he also has donated a lot of money to the fund, and is running a lot of fund raisers himself, what are you doing.

Posted by 98slowhoe 'FIFTYLX' (Member # 895) on :

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Originally posted by 86- 50:
Actually klona, you should look in to who you are talking about, He went to private schools all his life, also a professional artist, and recieved scholarships to about 5 different schools. I bet that is about 5 more than you had. You should think about who your calling an idiot.
PS. he also has donated a lot of money to the fund, and is running a lot of fund raisers himself, what are you doing.

Well atleast Klona isn't making an ASS out himself! What about you 86 what are you doing? Porbably not much. I know my mom is over there right now Helping out the Cause right now! She is seeing it first hand.

Posted by 86- 50 (Member # 4723) on :

Lile i stated in another post, I have personally donated two hundred dollars, I know its not a lot but its all i could spare. I thank and I'm pretty sure everybody else does too you mom for all the help out there.

Posted by 306Coupe (Member # 4988) on :

For one; what he said was true but didn't explain it correctly, He said Bush doesn't care about black people. Most presidents don't care for the groups that do not vote for them, Two he said that premission is given to shoot black people. Most of the people in New Orleans is black. There are some bad apples but it is the murder capitol of the country. They shouldnt neglect the people that need help because of no more than 50 "rebels. And last the countries reaction time is unacceptable.

Posted by 5.0-srt-4 (Member # 5864) on :

86-50 is right,hes very educated,and thats how he feels,and plus hes rich so calling him an idiot makes u look dumb,but that video seemed hella funny tho lol

Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :

I always knew Kanye West was a piece of shit. His rap sucks, who raps about religion? WTF is that? [Roll Eyes]

[ September 03, 2005, 03:24 PM: Message edited by: Cobra5.0Jeep ]

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
who raps about religion? WTF is that?

i believe McHammer started doing that 1st

Posted by z pyro (Member # 3745) on :

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Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
and plus hes rich so calling him an idiot makes u look dumb

ah, so now $$=iq? guess that makes paris hilton a genius, even though she's dumb as a fuckin rock

Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :

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Originally posted by 94gt:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
who raps about religion? WTF is that?
i believe McHammer started doing that 1st

none of the songs i used to listen to of his.

Kanye West is a retard. He just proved that to us. I see no proof of him going to any private schools or and money doesn't make you smart. Kanye West = dumbass
Oh also i didn't see any white people looting nikes and 49er hats? did anyone else?

Posted by 02GeeTee (Member # 5905) on :

http://katrinaninja.ytmnd.com/

I guess Kanye is wrong?

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

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Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:

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Originally posted by 94gt:

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Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
who raps about religion? WTF is that?
i believe McHammer started doing that 1st
none of the songs i used to listen to of his.

Kanye West is a retard. He just proved that to us. I see no proof of him going to any private schools or and money doesn't make you smart. Kanye West = dumbass
Oh also i didn't see any white people looting nikes and 49er hats? did anyone else?

he started after he declared bankruptcy

Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :

Now this is a shirt i'd buy.

[ September 03, 2005, 04:07 PM: Message edited by: Cobra5.0Jeep ]

Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :

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Originally posted by 94gt:

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Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:

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Originally posted by 94gt:

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Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
who raps about religion? WTF is that?
i believe McHammer started doing that 1st
none of the songs i used to listen to of his.

Kanye West is a retard. He just proved that to us. I see no proof of him going to any private schools or and money doesn't make you smart. Kanye West = dumbass
Oh also i didn't see any white people looting nikes and 49er hats? did anyone else?
he started after he declared bankruptcy

oh no one listens to him. If he rapped about religion when i liked him i would have stopped listening instantly.

Posted by RixSikCobra (Member # 5058) on :

This is great! Mike Myers is totally seriious and compassionate....."This is a national tradgedy, we should all band together and help out in any way we can"......Kayne West pipes in..."Where da white women at?"

I never liked the guy, now I actually have a reason other than that he's a crappy rapper. I don't care if he went to a pvt school(s)...which I don't buy BTW, the guy can't put a sentence together...I had no clue what he was really talkin' about. It appears to be somethin' about hatin' black people. What a tard. [Roll Eyes]

Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by RixSikCobra:
This is great! Mike Myers is totally seriious and compassionate....."This is a national tradgedy, we should all band together and help out in any way we can"......Kayne West pipes in..."Where da white women at?"

I never liked the guy, now I actually have a reason other than that he's a crappy rapper. I don't care if he went to a pvt school(s)...which I don't buy BTW, the guy can't put a sentence together...I had no clue what he was really talkin' about. It appears to be somethin' about hatin' black people. What a tard.

Yeah i don't believe he went to any private schools or got accepted to 5 colleges. If he did he would know that President Bush isn't the only one in control of how everything works. There is a Congress and a House of Representatives that also have control but hes too stupid to realize that. Also if he was soo smart wouldn't he be doing something other than raping? [Roll Eyes]

Hes a dumbass that wants people to believe he actually has a brain.

[ September 03, 2005, 04:28 PM: Message edited by: Cobra5.0Jeep ]

Posted by mikeP (Member # 4489) on :

haha great video.....

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

is it just me, or did he look like he was on something?

Posted by sf89lx (Member # 3965) on :

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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
And last the countries reaction time is unacceptable.

I personally dont like kanye,, but ithink he tried to express his frustration and it just came out wrong,, yes the hurricane doesnt discriminate who are what it damages or kills,, but the response to this tragedy because of where this tragedy happeened and what class/racial background is i believe a direct correlation why the hell it took this country so long to start helpin these people.

Posted by outlawd94cobra (Member # 265) on :

Somehow I have a feeling he'll never be asked to do a charity show on national TV for a national tragedy again.

Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :

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Originally posted by sf89lx:

quote:
Originally posted by 306Coupe:
And last the countries reaction time is unacceptable.

I personally dont like kanye,, but ithink he tried to express his frustration and it just came out wrong,, yes the hurricane doesnt discriminate who are what it damages or kills,, but the response to this tragedy because of where this tragedy happeened and what class/racial background is i believe a direct correlation why the hell it took this country so long to start helpin these people.

I don't think so. It takes a while to collect food, to transport that food and other supplies. To clear road to get those supplies in. If the levee hadn't broken i bet no one would be bitching about the response time at all. I don't believe the government has a hoard of food and medicine laying around for something like this.

Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by outlawd94cobra:
Somehow I have a feeling he'll never be asked to do a charity show on national TV for a national tragedy again.

I hope he never does, if i was running the show i wouldn't want some guy who mouths off his feelings any chance he gets. Its a charity not a political discussion.

[ September 03, 2005, 04:46 PM: Message edited by: Cobra5.0Jeep ]

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

quote:
Originally posted by sf89lx:

quote:
Originally posted by 306Coupe:
And last the countries reaction time is unacceptable.

I personally dont like kanye,, but ithink he tried to express his frustration and it just came out wrong,, yes the hurricane doesnt discriminate who are what it damages or kills,, but the response to this tragedy because of where this tragedy happeened and what class/racial background is i believe a direct correlation why the hell it took this country so long to start helpin these people.

and the fact that it takes time to move personel to there has no bearing? I guess planes can fix and fly themselves. I'm sure they can land right next to the disaster spot too. [Roll Eyes]

Posted by 5.0Caliber (Member # 5865) on :

LMFAO, that was 2 funny. I wonder what mike was thinking while he was saying all that. Why is that people, most of the time black people, think the "man" has got some master plan against them, its so fucking irratating. But anyways, chris tuckers facial expression was priceless, he was dumbfounded. An all around great vid [dance]

Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :

quote:
Originally posted by sf89lx:
but the response to this tragedy because of where this tragedy happeened and what class/racial background is i believe a direct correlation why the hell it took this country so long to start helpin these people. [/QB]

But you don't throw the race card, right? [Roll Eyes]

Kanye is a idiot, plain and simple. He couldn't form and communicate a simple sentence. Sad.

Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :

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Originally posted by 5.0-srt-4:
86-50 is right,hes very educated,and thats how he feels,and plus hes rich so calling him an idiot makes u look dumb,but that video seemed hella funny tho lol

LOL yeah that video was funny, looks like everyone was confused from the beginning, wasnt even ready to do the show....hmmm

Posted by SmokeyBurnout (Member # 5745) on :

In a way I wish this shit would have happened to white people so I wouldn't be hearing all this race bullshit. To me it's just another excuse for blacks to hate whites.

Posted by Eddie510 (Member # 2354) on :

all i know his cd is selling. we went to rasputins and eveybody was on it.. [Whoo Whooooo!]

Posted by AL STOCK (Member # 1852) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Eddie510:
all i know his cd is selling. we went to rasputins and eveybody was on it..

Thats all it matters [Wink]

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

quote:
Originally posted by SmokeyBurnout:
In a way I wish this shit would have happened to white people so I wouldn't be hearing all this race bullshit. To me it's just another excuse for blacks to hate whites.

thats the funny thing, it did... white, black, purple... it happened to alot of people.

Posted by migs66/92 (Member # 4811) on :

I am so sick and tired of hearing all this bullshit about white hating black and bla-bla-bla.I personally dont feel bad for those people because they had enough time and warning to get the fuck out of there,now they want to fucking cry because the goverment isnt able to get them relief!! I say fuck'em they should of got out when they could saving there lives and families everything else is replaceable.All I know is if there was some kind of a disaster in my town and they gave me heads up a few days in advance, Iwouldnt even think twice about it I would of got the fuck out of there.

Posted by 306Coupe (Member # 4988) on :

quote:
Originally posted by SmokeyBurnout:
In a way I wish this shit would have happened to white people so I wouldn't be hearing all this race bullshit. To me it's just another excuse for blacks to hate whites.

blacks to hate whites?
We don't need another excuse. There are too many reasons to list. You guys have no passion for one another. The blacks that are racist have plenty of reasons to be, Now the whiote racist... none what soever. And the difference between the black racist and white racist is the power factor. Blacks have never threaten the well being of another race. The white racist, (migs66/92)on the other hand do. Let me give you guys a history lesson. The Africa americans, Native americans and Chinese built this nation from the ground up. The reason why the north abolished slavery was fear of an uprising like the one that took place in Haiti and the fact that the south was becoming too polically power because of the 3/5 clause. So with the combination of fear and political stance the north "faught" for the freedom of blacks. Thoughout the 20th century, events such as the creation of the KKK, segregation in the south, emmit till, MLK assasination, Malcom X assasination, watts riots, Black panther destruction (which was order by the president and said that the black panther was the biggest security issue in the U.S. at the time) and so on, and so have been the struggles we the African Americans had to endure , which no other race had too. Blacks have always been used for political gain. Today New Orleans doesn't have much to offer, so the government isn't going all out like they would in other situations. Also where are all those countries that we helped during the Tsunmi?

[ September 03, 2005, 07:18 PM: Message edited by: 306Coupe ]

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 306Coupe:
Today New Orleans doesn't have much to offer, so the government isn't going all out like they would in other situations. Also where are all those countries that we helped during the Tsunmi?

"going all out" what does that mean? like numerous of us have said... they cant teleport things in there, it takes time to move supplies... what cnn doesnt show you is the military aircraft flying people and supplies there 24/7.

Posted by 306Coupe (Member # 4988) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 94gt:

quote:
Originally posted by 306Coupe:
Today New Orleans doesn't have much to offer, so the government isn't going all out like they would in other situations. Also where are all those countries that we helped during the Tsunmi?
"going all out" what does that mean? like numerous of us have said... they cant teleport things in there, it takes time to move supplies... what cnn doesnt show you is the military aircraft flying people and supplies there 24/7.

CNN dies show me them passing over the people on the bridge for days and days. All out is like what happened during the Tsumni. The US had troops over seas helping out quicker than they had them in their own country. Also the U.S. is doing some things now, but it's the response time that matters. Do yuou think it takes more than a day for a plane to come from South Carolina carrying supplies? Nope. I don't believe they moved as quickly as they could. I do realize JohnB and other U.S. military are helping but more can be done elsewhere

Posted by migs66/92 (Member # 4811) on :

306coupe 1st let me tell you something you fucking moron im no racist my son is half black so i dont want to hear any bull shit about racism you idiot.and next time try reading and understanding my post. oh by the way im not white.

Posted by z pyro (Member # 3745) on :

um...i think 302 is black too...

quote:
Originally posted by 306Coupe:

quote:
Originally posted by SmokeyBurnout:
In a way I wish this shit would have happened to white people so I wouldn't be hearing all this race bullshit. To me it's just another excuse for blacks to hate whites.
blacks to hate whites?
We don't need another excuse.

or maybe i read that wrong?

Posted by sf89lx (Member # 3965) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 94gt:

quote:
Originally posted by sf89lx:

quote:
Originally posted by 306Coupe:
And last the countries reaction time is unacceptable.

I personally dont like kanye,, but ithink he tried to express his frustration and it just came out wrong,, yes the hurricane doesnt discriminate who are what it damages or kills,, but the response to this tragedy because of where this tragedy happeened and what class/racial background is i believe a direct correlation why the hell it took this country so long to start helpin these people.
and the fact that it takes time to move personel to there has no bearing? I guess planes can fix and fly themselves. I'm sure they can land right next to the disaster spot too.

what planes needed fixing,, the army/navy and air force planes???? they were standing at baSES doing shit.... waiting for the command to go,, and no they didnt need to land at the disaster spot,, shit they landed on freeways an could of on rooftops other parts of new orleans.

Posted by 5.0-srt-4 (Member # 5864) on :

can u post a new link to this video i wanna show my gf asap lol thanks the more i think of it i crack up

Posted by z pyro (Member # 3745) on :

http://media.putfile.com/Kanye79

http://tetriskatrina.ytmnd.com/ lol

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

quote:
Originally posted by sf89lx:

quote:
Originally posted by 94gt:

quote:
Originally posted by sf89lx:

quote:
Originally posted by 306Coupe:
And last the countries reaction time is unacceptable.

I personally dont like kanye,, but ithink he tried to express his frustration and it just came out wrong,, yes the hurricane doesnt discriminate who are what it damages or kills,, but the response to this tragedy because of where this tragedy happeened and what class/racial background is i believe a direct correlation why the hell it took this country so long to start helpin these people.
and the fact that it takes time to move personel to there has no bearing? I guess planes can fix and fly themselves. I'm sure they can land right next to the disaster spot too.
what planes needed fixing,, the army/navy and air force planes???? they were standing at baSES doing shit.... waiting for the command to go,, and no they didnt need to land at the disaster spot,, shit they landed on freeways an could of on rooftops other parts of new orleans.

you obvioulsy have no clue as to where aircraft can land. They can land helo's on freeways and hover above houses. Freeways arent built strong enough to support the weight of an aircraft... let alone one full of cargo.

When you join the military and know how things work more thoroughly, then come talk to me.

Posted by 5.0-srt-4 (Member # 5864) on :

hey bro thanks that shits killen me

Posted by sf89lx (Member # 3965) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 94gt:

quote:
Originally posted by sf89lx:

quote:
Originally posted by 94gt:

quote:
Originally posted by sf89lx:

quote:
Originally posted by 306Coupe:
And last the countries reaction time is unacceptable.

I personally dont like kanye,, but ithink he tried to express his frustration and it just came out wrong,, yes the hurricane doesnt discriminate who are what it damages or kills,, but the response to this tragedy because of where this tragedy happeened and what class/racial background is i believe a direct correlation why the hell it took this country so long to start helpin these people.
and the fact that it takes time to move personel to there has no bearing? I guess planes can fix and fly themselves. I'm sure they can land right next to the disaster spot too.
what planes needed fixing,, the army/navy and air force planes???? they were standing at baSES doing shit.... waiting for the command to go,, and no they didnt need to land at the disaster spot,, shit they landed on freeways an could of on rooftops other parts of new orleans.
you obvioulsy have no clue as to where aircraft can land. They can land helo's on freeways and hover above houses. Freeways arent built strong enough to support the weight of an aircraft... let alone one full of cargo.

When you join the military and know how things work more thoroughly, then come talk to me.

dude,, are u a engineer that u can factually state that freeways cant hold that weight??? [Roll Eyes]

i beg to differ,

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

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Originally posted by sf89lx:

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Originally posted by 94gt:

quote:
Originally posted by sf89lx:

quote:
Originally posted by 94gt:

quote:
Originally posted by sf89lx:

quote:
Originally posted by 306Coupe:
And last the countries reaction time is unacceptable.

I personally dont like kanye,, but ithink he tried to express his frustration and it just came out wrong,, yes the hurricane doesnt discriminate who are what it damages or kills,, but the response to this tragedy because of where this tragedy happeened and what class/racial background is i believe a direct correlation why the hell it took this country so long to start helpin these people.
and the fact that it takes time to move personel to there has no bearing? I guess planes can fix and fly themselves. I'm sure they can land right next to the disaster spot too.
what planes needed fixing,, the army/navy and air force planes???? they were standing at baSES doing shit.... waiting for the command to go,, and no they didnt need to land at the disaster spot,, shit they landed on freeways an could of on rooftops other parts of new orleans.
you obvioulsy have no clue as to where aircraft can land. They can land helo's on freeways and hover above houses. Freeways arent built strong enough to support the weight of an aircraft... let alone one full of cargo.

When you join the military and know how things work more thoroughly, then come talk to me.
dude,, are u a engineer that u can factually state that freeways cant hold that weight??? i beg to differ,

I work on them everyday, I know their weight and that the ramp and flight line are built especially for aircraft weight. Not to mention the obvious clearance thats not provided by freeways.
Yeah, I guess I dont know a damned thing about aircraft [Roll Eyes]

Posted by sf89lx (Member # 3965) on :

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Originally posted by 94gt:

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Originally posted by sf89lx:

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Originally posted by 94gt:

quote:
Originally posted by sf89lx:

quote:
Originally posted by 94gt:

quote:
Originally posted by sf89lx:

quote:
Originally posted by 306Coupe:
And last the countries reaction time is unacceptable.

I personally dont like kanye,, but ithink he tried to express his frustration and it just came out wrong,, yes the hurricane doesnt discriminate who are what it damages or kills,, but the response to this tragedy because of where this tragedy happeened and what class/racial background is i believe a direct correlation why the hell it took this country so long to start helpin these people.
and the fact that it takes time to move personel to there has no bearing? I guess planes can fix and fly themselves. I'm sure they can land right next to the disaster spot too.
what planes needed fixing,, the army/navy and air force planes???? they were standing at baSES doing shit.... waiting for the command to go,, and no they didnt need to land at the disaster spot,, shit they landed on freeways an could of on rooftops other parts of new orleans.
you obvioulsy have no clue as to where aircraft can land. They can land helo's on freeways and hover above houses. Freeways arent built strong enough to support the weight of an aircraft... let alone one full of cargo.

When you join the military and know how things work more thoroughly, then come talk to me.
dude,, are u a engineer that u can factually state that freeways cant hold that weight??? i beg to differ,
I work on them everyday, I know their weight and that the ramp and flight line are built especially for aircraft weight. Not to mention the obvious clearance thats not provided by freeways.
Yeah, I guess I dont know a damned thing about aircraft

of course freeways arent built for airplanes,,but i saw a blackhawk land on I-10 today... explain that??/

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

re-read your posts... you didnt say anything about the until i mentioned them.

Posted by 1Sicgt (Member # 714) on :

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Originally posted by 1Sicgt:
Wow, you can tell he thought through what he was going to say. Remember its went from a national tragedy to, hate upon the black man.

Here's a sad fact. If you live in Hurricane Alley, and aren't prepared for the fact of what will happen, there will be death. Dosen't matter white, black, yellow, green or blue. If you don't take the time to think, and prepare you will die.

CA, learned from past earthquakes. Since then they have or are retro fitting all structures up to a code that they deamed to be safe enough. LA, has known for sometime, that they should not keep expanding into areas they did. But city coucil's there approved the sprawl when they shouldn't have, and now people there are paying the price. It's not any one races fault. It's the cities, and towns down there's fault. Instead of forcing companies, and developers to do something stregnthen the leevy system, or look for alternative designs, they just kept building and building, making that dollar, and now the people who live there have paid in the worst way possible.

Stop blaming the cultures or color of a people, blame who really is at fault.

Again lets steer back to the freakin point. Stop blaming other races people, and realise nobody did anything to prevent this from happening. God, morons on here need to get educated on what the real cause of this is! [Roll Eyes]

[ September 03, 2005, 11:32 PM: Message edited by: 1Sicgt ]

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 1Sicgt:

quote:
Originally posted by 1Sicgt:
Wow, you can tell he thought through what he was going to say. Remember its went from a national tragedy to, hate upon the black man.

Here's a sad fact. If you live in Hurricane Alley, and aren't prepared for the fact of what will happen, there will be death. Dosen't matter white, black, yellow, green or blue. If you don't take the time to think, and prepare you will die.

CA, learned from past earthquakes. Since then they have or are retro fitting all structures up to a code that they deamed to be safe enough. LA, has known for sometime, that they should not keep expanding into areas they did. But city coucil's there approved the sprawl when they shouldn't have, and now people there are paying the price. It's not any one races fault. It's the cities, and towns down there's fault. Instead of forcing companies, and developers to do something stregnthen the leevy system, or look for alternative designs, they just kept building and building, making that dollar, and now the people who live there have paid in the worst way possible.

Stop blaming the cultures or color of a people, blame who really is at fault.
Again lets steer back to the freakin point. Stop blaming other races people, and realise nobody did anything to prevent this from happening. God, morons on here need to get educted on what the real cause of this is!

Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :

haha i am sure Chris Tucker believes Kanye West is a psycho by the look he gives him haha.

Kanye West is a dumbass, African Americans aren't the only people suffering there so get over the race card BS. We should not rebuild New Orleans. Those are the facts as i see them, i see a lot of people on here opening their mouths when they don't know half the facts about what they are talking about. Your making yourself look like a dumbass like Kanya.

Posted by 306Coupe (Member # 4988) on :

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Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
haha i am sure Chris Tucker believes Kanye West is a psycho by the look he gives him haha.

Kanye West is a dumbass, African Americans aren't the only people suffering there so get over the race card BS. We should not rebuild New Orleans. Those are the facts as i see them, i see a lot of people on here opening their mouths when they don't know half the facts about what they are talking about. Your making yourself look like a dumbass like Kanya.

No but they sure are the majority. Please tell me why the U.S. had forces on the ground quicker during the Tsunmi than they did for this? Answer thst question and thats all.

Posted by aslowdodge (Member # 854) on :

geez, if this guy went to private school, then he sure didn't learn anything. Scholorships don't mean you're extra smart. A lot of times it's because you made the cut, but were financially unable to afford the school It is to help you out.

I just played the video and am shocked at what he said. He comes across as a narrow minded reverse racist. If you want people to listen to what you have to say, then speak from a factual and not emotional point of view. Once you lose credibility, no one listens. Remember the protesters in the last war who shut down the bridge? Instead of winning people to their cause, they wound up looking like fanatics and alienating everyone against their cause and beliefs. With all the crap people are spewing about it is all about hatred for the blacks, why don't they spend time helping to solve the probelm of helping these people. The more shit that's stirred up, the more it ties up resources defending against the accusations rather than helping N.O. How is bringing this stuff up over and over helping the situation? Don't they realize that timing is everything? It's hard to believe the point about racism when it is a mixture of people affected there plus a lot of videos & pix with a majority of black people shown looting.
There is a lot of logistical planning to send relief. So many things got wiped out it's hard to plan how to approach it. No doubt there is a lesson to be learned about disaster preparation. I hope it wakes everyone up here in earthquake country.
Honestly this is the worse disaster ever I think. Much like 911 caught everyone off guard and unprepared, this event is proving how much work we have to do. Most people here in the US lead non major disater lives and just aren't in a mindset to think of anything really bad happening here in the US like it does in other parts of the world.

Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 306Coupe:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
haha i am sure Chris Tucker believes Kanye West is a psycho by the look he gives him haha.

Kanye West is a dumbass, African Americans aren't the only people suffering there so get over the race card BS. We should not rebuild New Orleans. Those are the facts as i see them, i see a lot of people on here opening their mouths when they don't know half the facts about what they are talking about. Your making yourself look like a dumbass like Kanya.
No but they sure are the majority. Please tell me why the U.S. had forces on the ground quicker during the Tsunmi than they did for this? Answer thst question and thats all.

Show me they had forces there before 2 days.

Edit: i just noticed you said on the ground qucker. Theres no way we had any ground forces there quicker. I am sorry you feel they were there quicker but its impossible, if you can prove me wrong show me some FACTS i don't want your opinion.

[ September 04, 2005, 02:24 AM: Message edited by: Cobra5.0Jeep ]

Posted by 89_302notch (Member # 5906) on :

He's got balls with an open mind [Eek!]

Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :

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Originally posted by sf89lx:

quote:
Originally posted by 306Coupe:
And last the countries reaction time is unacceptable.

I personally dont like kanye,, but ithink he tried to express his frustration and it just came out wrong,, yes the hurricane doesnt discriminate who are what it damages or kills,, but the response to this tragedy because of where this tragedy happeened and what class/racial background is i believe a direct correlation why the hell it took this country so long to start helpin these people.

AGAIN, a post by you and you pulling the race card [Roll Eyes]

Posted by 89_302notch (Member # 5906) on :

quote:
Originally posted by SmokeyBurnout:
LMAO! What a fuckin idiot!

Saying an open minded comment doesnt make you an idiot. Kanye backs his shit up he has his reasons or should I say Facts why

"I aint saying he a racist man, But he aint fucking wit kanye west"

Lying and procasternating makes you a dumb fuck

Posted by 89_302notch (Member # 5906) on :

Kanye was caught up in the moment and was frustrated he spoke with emotion but hey stuff happens

Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 89_302notch:

quote:
Originally posted by SmokeyBurnout:
LMAO! What a fuckin idiot!
Saying an open minded comment doesnt make you an idiot. Kanye backs his shit up he has his reasons or should I say Facts why

"I aint saying he a racist man, But he aint fucking wit kanye west"

Lying and procasternating makes you a dumb fuck

where did that quote come from? Kanye has no facts that prove what he said is true. He is an idiot for saying something like that. i can guarantee a lot of the people who heard him say that turned them off to donating any money to his fund.

Posted by 306Coupe (Member # 4988) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:

quote:
Originally posted by 306Coupe:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
haha i am sure Chris Tucker believes Kanye West is a psycho by the look he gives him haha.

Kanye West is a dumbass, African Americans aren't the only people suffering there so get over the race card BS. We should not rebuild New Orleans. Those are the facts as i see them, i see a lot of people on here opening their mouths when they don't know half the facts about what they are talking about. Your making yourself look like a dumbass like Kanya.
No but they sure are the majority. Please tell me why the U.S. had forces on the ground quicker during the Tsunmi than they did for this? Answer thst question and thats all.
Show me they had forces there before 2 days.

Edit: i just noticed you said on the ground qucker. Theres no way we had any ground forces there quicker. I am sorry you feel they were there quicker but its impossible, if you can prove me wrong show me some FACTS i don't want your opinion.

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCommentary.asp?Page=%5CCommentary%5Carchive%5C200501%5CCOM20050107a.html

"Within 48 hours of the disaster, the Lincoln and other U.S. warships had received their orders, called back their crews from shore leave, taken on whatever supplies they could and weighed anchor for the hardest hit areas to begin the relief effort. Around the same time, other ships and aircraft were being dispatched from the American naval facility on Diego Garcia in the heart of the Indian Ocean."

Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :

You realized you just proved my point right?
Took them 2 days to get their orders and equipment to set sail, took them maybe 3 or 4 days to sail from Japan to the Indian coast or hardest hit areas. Thats 5-6 days right there, your complaining about nothing. Took longer to help the tsunami people than our own.

Edit: I'd also like to add that many nations helped the tsunami people so they got way more supplies than what the supplies the New Orleans people are getting. Also those nations harder hit are surrounded by inland nations and that is why hardly any people starved or didn't get medical attention.

[ September 04, 2005, 03:54 AM: Message edited by: Cobra5.0Jeep ]

Posted by 306Coupe (Member # 4988) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
You realized you just proved my point right?
Took them 2 days to get their orders and equipment to set sail, took them maybe 3 or 4 days to sail from Japan to the Indian coast or hardest hit areas. Thats 5-6 days right there, your complaining about nothing. Took longer to help the tsunami people than our own.

Edit: I'd also like to add that many nations helped the tsunami people so they got way more supplies than what the supplies the New Orleans people are getting. If other nations help us out we should be fine.

For one, The army did not recieve their order for N.O. within 48 hours, second others who were closer were also dispatched. On the 29 of Dec. 29th W. bush how already ordered 37 million in relief, thats three days after it hit. Do you believe the acted as quickly as possible?

Posted by WRS92GT (Member # 5008) on :

quote:
Originally posted by RixSikCobra:
This is great! Mike Myers is totally seriious and compassionate....."This is a national tradgedy, we should all band together and help out in any way we can"......Kayne West pipes in..."Where da white women at?"

I never liked the guy, now I actually have a reason other than that he's a crappy rapper. I don't care if he went to a pvt school(s)...which I don't buy BTW, the guy can't put a sentence together...I had no clue what he was really talkin' about. It appears to be somethin' about hatin' black people. What a tard.

When you're a rich dumb fuck you can hire a publicist to put stories out saying "Kayne West is a Harvard Scholar" and people would actually believe it. In my opinion judging by what I witnessed I would say that dumb fucking ape barely managed to pass the 8th grade. His staring at the screen for endless seconds without comment made you think "wow this guy might actually say something worth while" and then the idiot fires off with "GEORGE BUSH HATES BLACK PEOPLE!"

Wow and people wonder why our kids of today have shitty morals and values. When kids idolize cheesedicks like Kanye West what do you really expect?

Posted by CocaineWhiteSS (Member # 1251) on :

This could be part of the reason why Kanye West was emotional...

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/09/01/photo_controversy/index.html

I received this email a few days ago and now the first picture of the white couple is removed from Yahoo News. Why?

Subject: WTF?

Definitely screwed up! Read the captions...

white people "find" things
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/050830/...shxwaoma_photo1

black people "loot" things
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/050830/480/ladm10208301530

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 306Coupe:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
You realized you just proved my point right?
Took them 2 days to get their orders and equipment to set sail, took them maybe 3 or 4 days to sail from Japan to the Indian coast or hardest hit areas. Thats 5-6 days right there, your complaining about nothing. Took longer to help the tsunami people than our own.

Edit: I'd also like to add that many nations helped the tsunami people so they got way more supplies than what the supplies the New Orleans people are getting. If other nations help us out we should be fine.
For one, The army did not recieve their order for N.O. within 48 hours, second others who were closer were also dispatched. On the 29 of Dec. 29th W. bush how already ordered 37 million in relief, thats three days after it hit. Do you believe the acted as quickly as possible?

Where did you see that they didnt recieve their orders within 48hrs? I sure as hell got a blanket stop order in my USAF email within that time frame. Bush doesnt just "order 37million in relief" like he went to the bank and withdrew it, he requests it and its up to all the politicians to approve it. He's already done that.

its easy to criticize something or a process when you dont know how it works. When we get orders, sure we can be gone in 1 hour... but that doesnt include travel time or anything like that. We still have to pick up equipment, get out briefed, out process among other things.

Posted by RixSikCobra (Member # 5058) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 306Coupe:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
haha i am sure Chris Tucker believes Kanye West is a psycho by the look he gives him haha.

Kanye West is a dumbass, African Americans aren't the only people suffering there so get over the race card BS. We should not rebuild New Orleans. Those are the facts as i see them, i see a lot of people on here opening their mouths when they don't know half the facts about what they are talking about. Your making yourself look like a dumbass like Kanya.
No but they sure are the majority. Please tell me why the U.S. had forces on the ground quicker during the Tsunmi than they did for this? Answer thst question and thats all.

Dude, you are hilarious. I really appreciate you offering comic relief through this NATIONAL TRAGEDY our country(apparently not your country)is going through. I'm not even gonna give you the respect to give your racist ass an explanation of these lame questions and comments that you make. You are a hate mongering racist as far as I'm concerned. I wish I could send you and others like you back to Africa so you can see what hardship is really all about. You are an absolute disgrace to the hard-working African-Americans who help define this country. BTW, I'm not white either. Friggin' loser!!!

Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 306Coupe:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
You realized you just proved my point right?
Took them 2 days to get their orders and equipment to set sail, took them maybe 3 or 4 days to sail from Japan to the Indian coast or hardest hit areas. Thats 5-6 days right there, your complaining about nothing. Took longer to help the tsunami people than our own.

Edit: I'd also like to add that many nations helped the tsunami people so they got way more supplies than what the supplies the New Orleans people are getting. If other nations help us out we should be fine.
For one, The army did not recieve their order for N.O. within 48 hours, second others who were closer were also dispatched. On the 29 of Dec. 29th W. bush how already ordered 37 million in relief, thats three days after it hit. Do you believe the acted as quickly as possible?

Japan would have been the closest, unless we took troops from the middleeast. We didn't have ground forces on the ground quicker, i proved you wrong on that.
It doesn't matter how fast Bush approves the money cause he has to have Congress and the House approve of that also. So now your basicly saying everyone in our Government even the black people hate black people cause they didn't approve an amount of money for the relief in time. That has the be the stupidest thing i have ever heard. I am going to have to agree with everyone else whos piped in that you just might be racist and not even know it towards white people.
Bush doesn't hate black people, He is the first president to have more black poeple on his counsel than any preisdent before him.

Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on :

quote:
Originally posted by RixSikCobra:

quote:
Originally posted by 306Coupe:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
haha i am sure Chris Tucker believes Kanye West is a psycho by the look he gives him haha.

Kanye West is a dumbass, African Americans aren't the only people suffering there so get over the race card BS. We should not rebuild New Orleans. Those are the facts as i see them, i see a lot of people on here opening their mouths when they don't know half the facts about what they are talking about. Your making yourself look like a dumbass like Kanya.
No but they sure are the majority. Please tell me why the U.S. had forces on the ground quicker during the Tsunmi than they did for this? Answer thst question and thats all.
Dude, you are hilarious. I really appreciate you offering comic relief through this NATIONAL TRAGEDY our country(apparently not your country)is going through. I'm not even gonna give you the respect to give your racist ass an explanation of these lame questions and comments that you make. You are a hate mongering racist as far as I'm concerned. I wish I could send you and others like you back to Africa so you can see what hardship is really all about. You are an absolute disgrace to the hard-working African-Americans who help define this country. BTW, I'm not white either. Friggin' loser!!!

You know your a complete tool when you get a laid back guy like Rick fired up! [Eek!]

Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :

On Sunday, he was praising the Lord, saying the ordeal was a test that ended up dispelling his lifelong distrust of white people and setting his life on a new course. He said he hitched a ride on Friday in a van driven by a group of white folks.

"Before this whole thing I had a complex about white people; this thing changed me forever," said Brant, 36.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050904/ts_nm/church_dc

[ September 04, 2005, 01:35 PM: Message edited by: Cobra5.0Jeep ]

Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :

This is what Kanye West should be doing instead of opening his ignorant mouth about things he doesn't know anyhting about.

HOUSTON - It wasn't for a concert. R&B singer Macy Gray came to town specifically to help refugees from the flooding in New Orleans.

"I just really wanted to help out," Gray said after spending Saturday handing out clothes and toiletries in the Astrodome. "I think the most important thing to them is their futures. They are here, and they have gotten out of that disaster but it is, like, now what? Because they can't live like that forever."

About 18,500 survivors were housed in the Astrodome and an adjacent meeting hall. More than 120,000 refugees were in 97 shelters in Houston, Dallas, San Antonio and dozens of smaller cities across the vast state, Gov. Rick Perry's office said, with another 100,000 in hotels and motels. Uncounted more were in churches or private homes.

"It is crazy when you don't know what is going to happen to you the next day and suddenly that is what their lives are like," Gray said of the refugees.

The Grammy winner said she was able to lift the refugees' spirits and many were excited to see her.

"It is very humbling, but I loved every second of it," Gray said. "It was really gratifying and I had a great time."

With more than 220,000 hurricane refugees camped out in Texas and more coming, Perry warned Saturday that his enormous state was running out of room.

"Texas is committed to doing everything it can to help our neighbors from Louisiana, but we want to make certain that we can provide them with the medical care, food, shelter, safety, education and other services they need to start getting their lives back together," Perry said in a statement. "Local officials are beginning to notify us that they are quickly approaching capacity in the number of evacuees they believe they can assist."

Buses continued to arrive at the Astrodome, where many were redirected to other evacuation centers after people were processed and evaluated for medical conditions.

Posted by 306Coupe (Member # 4988) on :

For one Im not the racist.My mother is mostly white and my dad is mostly black. Send me back to Africa? What ther fuck ever. Like I said the response time is unacceptable and whoever think it was needs to kick heads out there ass. A white person can never explain to me how hard life really is. It's just not possible.

Posted by putter (Member # 4253) on :

brakes screachin! Did a guy a few pages back just say it was ok for black people to be racist? heres a shock! you know the north white people fought the south to end slavery!! My great grandpa died fighting with the north there has never been any thanks or recognition from any black groups honoring the north soldiers who died fighting to end slavery! The biggest shock is there were africans in africa trading with white traders now who should we hate?

P.S. All those bad slavery people every last one is dead!!!! Why hate now I, my, family did nothing to your ancestors. Bottom line NO its not ok to be racist. moron it was you 306 coupe!!!!!!!! moron!

[ September 04, 2005, 02:33 PM: Message edited by: putter ]

Posted by putter (Member # 4253) on :

blacks to hate whites?
We don't need another excuse. There are too many reasons to list. You guys have no passion for one another. The blacks that are racist have plenty of reasons to be, Now the whiote racist... none what soever. And the difference between the black racist and white racist is the power factor. Blacks have never threaten the well being of another race. The white racist, (migs66/92)on the other hand do. Let me give you guys a history lesson. The Africa americans, Native americans and Chinese built this nation from the ground up. The reason why the north abolished slavery was fear of an uprising like the one that took place in Haiti and the fact that the south was becoming too polically power because of the 3/5 clause. So with the combination of fear and political stance the north "faught" for the freedom of blacks. Thoughout the 20th century, events such as the creation of the KKK, segregation in the south, emmit till, MLK assasination, Malcom X assasination, watts riots, Black panther destruction (which was order by the president and said that the black panther was the biggest security issue in the U.S. at the time) and so on, and so have been the struggles we the African Americans had to endure , which no other race had too. Blacks have always been used for political gain. Today New Orleans doesn't have much to offer, so the government isn't going all out like they would in other situations. Also where are all those countries that we helped during the Tsunmi?
right here!!!!!! this is all bs!

Posted by putter (Member # 4253) on :

Cant tell you how hard life is? Theres your card dude go ahead and pull it whenever things get tough in life! There are very succesful black men all over the nation so dont say youre heald back! there is fear in white people of blacks maybe tv does it but member la riots tons of riots for that fact over sports games and what not. dont worry dude just pull your im black card whenever things are tough and putt through life. you gonna raise your kids to hate to? with that hate in you do you think white people can sense this from you when in your presence?

Posted by RixSikCobra (Member # 5058) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 306Coupe:
For one Im not the racist.My mother is mostly white and my dad is mostly black. Send me back to Africa? What ther fuck ever. Like I said the response time is unacceptable and whoever think it was needs to kick heads out there ass. A white person can never explain to me how hard life really is. It's just not possible.

Check it out asswipe. According to your description of yourself, I'm more black than you are, so it's time for you, mama's boy, to step the fuck off and stop embarrassing yuorself and to stop insulting blacks by insinuating that they are second class citizens. You are preaching that and, sadly, you probably don't even realize it.

You are a mixed boy who lives in Benicia(the KKK captiol of the world last time I checked [Roll Eyes]

) You've grown up either there or some other city around Northern California...which is generally considered the most liberal region in the country. You have grown up in an melting pot your whole life...around people just like yourself and you wanna give us the "whoa is me, they don't understand...." speech. YOU are the one who has no clue about equality and what it takes to be a patriot(do yo know what one is..a patriot?)If ya wanna take up the "whitely hates us" fight, at least go somewhere where it actually MIGHT make sense to the people you debating with. We can't relate because we don't see it, only you do because you look for it, and if ya don't find it, you make it up or twist the facts or go on uneducated, ignorant tirades just to inflame.

Once again, you are a disgrace to all the hard-working, African Americans(and those who have the blood)that help define this GREAT FUCKING COUNTRY. I've lived longer and harder with more black blood in me than you and recieved more racial slurrs than you will in your lifetime. You're way too young to be this bitter. Stop listenng to all of the hate mongers you apparently idolize. You have no clue what a hard life is.

edit: When I was a kid, I couldn't get a date because of my dark skin. I hated being mixed. Now, in the same area where I grew up, the women LOVE my dark skin and it's easy to get dates(not that I'm looking). I grew up in a white town, bothe parents died before I was the age of 12, I finished HS on my own, college on my own, and now I have a great job and am successful. ALL on my own. How? OPPORTUNITY AND HARD WORK. There are more opportunities than EVER before because we "feel sorry" for black people. It's not right in my book, but none-the-less there is opportunity anfter opportunity for young black men and especially women....the hard work part usually discourages them though.

signed...I can't sign because whitey has kept me down and I can't spell.

[ September 04, 2005, 03:13 PM: Message edited by: RixSikCobra ]

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

quote:
Originally posted by RixSikCobra:

quote:
Originally posted by 306Coupe:
For one Im not the racist.My mother is mostly white and my dad is mostly black. Send me back to Africa? What ther fuck ever. Like I said the response time is unacceptable and whoever think it was needs to kick heads out there ass. A white person can never explain to me how hard life really is. It's just not possible.
Check it out asswipe. According to your description of yourself, I'm more black than you are, so it's time for you, mama's boy, to step the fuck off and stop embarrassing yuorself and to stop insulting blacks by insinuating that they are second class citizens. You are preaching that and, sadly, you probably don't even realize it.

You are a mixed boy who lives in Benicia(the KKK captiol of the world last time I checked ) You've grown up either there or some other city around Northern California...which is generally considered the most liberal region in the country. You have grown up in an melting pot your whole life...around people just like yourself and you wanna give us the "whoa is me, they don't understand...." speech. YOU are the one who has no clue about equality and what it takes to be a patriot(do yo know what one is..a patriot?)If ya wanna take up the "whitely hates us" fight, at least go somewhere where it actually MIGHT make sense to the people you debating with. We can't relate because we don't see it, only you do because you look for it, and if ya don't find it, you make it up or twist the facts or go on uneducaed, ignorant tirades just to inflame.

Once again, you are a disgrace to all the hard-working, African Americans(and those who have the blood)that help define this GREAT FUCKING COUNTRY. I've lived longer and harder with more black blood in me than you and recieved more racial slurrs than you will in your lifetime. You're way too young to be this bitter. Stop listenng to all of the hate mongers you apparently idolize. You have no clue what a hard life is.

And Rick comes out with a vicious right!
[worship]

Posted by 306Coupe (Member # 4988) on :

quote:
Originally posted by RixSikCobra:

quote:
Originally posted by 306Coupe:
For one Im not the racist.My mother is mostly white and my dad is mostly black. Send me back to Africa? What ther fuck ever. Like I said the response time is unacceptable and whoever think it was needs to kick heads out there ass. A white person can never explain to me how hard life really is. It's just not possible.
Check it out asswipe. According to your description of yourself, I'm more black than you are, so it's time for you, mama's boy, to step the fuck off and stop embarrassing yuorself and to stop insulting blacks by insinuating that they are second class citizens. You are preaching that and, sadly, you probably don't even realize it.

You are a mixed boy who lives in Benicia(the KKK captiol of the world last time I checked ) You've grown up either there or some other city around Northern California...which is generally considered the most liberal region in the country. You have grown up in an melting pot your whole life...around people just like yourself and you wanna give us the "whoa is me, they don't understand...." speech. YOU are the one who has no clue about equality and what it takes to be a patriot(do yo know what one is..a patriot?)If ya wanna take up the "whitely hates us" fight, at least go somewhere where it actually MIGHT make sense to the people you debating with. We can't relate because we don't see it, only you do because you look for it, and if ya don't find it, you make it up or twist the facts or go on uneducated, ignorant tirades just to inflame.

Once again, you are a disgrace to all the hard-working, African Americans(and those who have the blood)that help define this GREAT FUCKING COUNTRY. I've lived longer and harder with more black blood in me than you and recieved more racial slurrs than you will in your lifetime. You're way too young to be this bitter. Stop listenng to all of the hate mongers you apparently idolize. You have no clue what a hard life is.

edit: When I was a kid, I couldn't get a date because of my dark skin. I hated being mixed. Now, in the same area where I grew up, the women LOVE my dark skin and it's easy to get dates(not that I'm looking). I grew up in a white town, bothe parents died before I was the age of 12, I finished HS on my own, college on my own, and now I have a great job and am successful. ALL on my own. How? OPPORTUNITY AND HARD WORK. There are more opportunities than EVER before because we "feel sorry" for black people. It's not right in my book, but none-the-less there is opportunity anfter opportunity for young black men and especially women....the hard work part usually discourages them though.

signed...I can't sign because whitey has kept me down and I can't spell.

For one I was nborn in East Los angeles, moved to Compton, lived in three different group homes, graduated from Skyline HIgh in Oakland Ca., Went to CSU Long Beach and am currently a computer tech. I know what what it feels like to live on the streets and in shelters. I speak from experience not television my life is real just like those people in N.O., Mama's boy? I aint seen my mama in 16 years and I'm only 24.

[ September 04, 2005, 03:18 PM: Message edited by: 306Coupe ]

Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on :

well said rick

but i have to but in a little, dont chicken out when your talken about women, lauren wont get mad homie

she might just get even and steal the cobra [Eek!]

Posted by RixSikCobra (Member # 5058) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:
well said rick

but i have to but in a little, dont chicken out when your talken about women, lauren wont get mad homie

she might just get even and steal the cobra

Nice

. How are ya man, haven't seen ya in awhile. Hope all is well with ya!

I can't wait to see this knucklehead's rebuttle.

Sigend...I can't signe because you are white and are responsible for me not being able to sign...i suppose I could type an "x"

X

Posted by 306Coupe (Member # 4988) on :

quote:
Originally posted by RixSikCobra:

quote:
Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:
well said rick

but i have to but in a little, dont chicken out when your talken about women, lauren wont get mad homie

she might just get even and steal the cobra
Nice . How are ya man, haven't seen ya in awhile. Hope all is well with ya!

I can't wait to see this knucklehead's rebuttle.

Sigend...I can't signe because you are white and are responsible for me not being able to sign...i suppose I could type an "x"

X

my rebuttle is already up

Posted by RixSikCobra (Member # 5058) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 306Coupe:

quote:
Originally posted by RixSikCobra:

quote:
Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:
well said rick

but i have to but in a little, dont chicken out when your talken about women, lauren wont get mad homie

she might just get even and steal the cobra
Nice . How are ya man, haven't seen ya in awhile. Hope all is well with ya!

I can't wait to see this knucklehead's rebuttle.

Sigend...I can't signe because you are white and are responsible for me not being able to sign...i suppose I could type an "x"

X
my rebuttle is already up

First, key the violins....

OK, then you, of all people, should know what it takes to be successful and that fucking handouts are not the way to go in life. You should be appalled, as I am, at all the people who use being black, poor and uneducated as an excuse to commit crimes and have a horrible life.

You chose to get outta Godforsaken Compton and the likes. You chose the option that you aren't gonna be a statistic or end up in jail or dead; an option that took you outta harms's way . You chose the path of not-of-the-least resistance. To me it sounds as though you think you are successful. Maybe you are for this point in your life. I think that's commendible.

IF YOU AND I CAN DO IT, SO CAN THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE CONFINED TO THE GHETTOS.

Take your hate and put it towards something positive. Don't hate the world because you had a tough upbringing and you feel the world shit on you. Because the world will win in a shitting contest...it has a bigger anus by far. You can HATE in one hand and SHIT in the other, see which one fills the fastest. At 24, you don't know jack when it comes to how the world works. I'm older than you and I'm still learnin'.

Lastly, we can't go kill all of the slave owners, they're dead already....a long time ago, bro. My other posts still hold true.

[ September 04, 2005, 03:52 PM: Message edited by: RixSikCobra ]

Posted by sf89lx (Member # 3965) on :

quote:
Originally posted by CocaineWhiteSS:
This could be part of the reason why Kanye West was emotional...

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/09/01/photo_controversy/index.html

I received this email a few days ago and now the first picture of the white couple is removed from Yahoo News. Why?

Subject: WTF?

Definitely screwed up! Read the captions...

white people "find" things
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/050830/...shxwaoma_photo1

black people "loot" things
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/050830/480/ladm10208301530

why has no one commented on this post??? hmm i wonder why...

Posted by RixSikCobra (Member # 5058) on :

quote:
Originally posted by sf89lx:

quote:
Originally posted by CocaineWhiteSS:
This could be part of the reason why Kanye West was emotional...

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/09/01/photo_controversy/index.html

I received this email a few days ago and now the first picture of the white couple is removed from Yahoo News. Why?

Subject: WTF?

Definitely screwed up! Read the captions...

white people "find" things
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/050830/...shxwaoma_photo1

black people "loot" things
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/050830/480/ladm10208301530
why has no one commented on this post??? hmm i wonder why...

Because it doesn't come up on the site. I was dying to see it so I could comment on the hating, propogandus BS that you people are spewing. THE FUCKING PEOPLE WERE LOOTING...WHY CAN'T YOU ACCEPT THAT? Man, I'm pissed about this now. You guys are gonna make me a racist. I'm freakin' fed up with this shit.

[ September 04, 2005, 05:38 PM: Message edited by: RixSikCobra ]

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

someone did comment on that post when it was 1st brought up here. [Wink]

Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :

quote:
Originally posted by sf89lx:

quote:
Originally posted by CocaineWhiteSS:
This could be part of the reason why Kanye West was emotional...

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/09/01/photo_controversy/index.html

I received this email a few days ago and now the first picture of the white couple is removed from Yahoo News. Why?

Subject: WTF?

Definitely screwed up! Read the captions...

white people "find" things
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/050830/...shxwaoma_photo1

black people "loot" things
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/050830/480/ladm10208301530
why has no one commented on this post??? hmm i wonder why...

Error Page not found thats why.
Was the picture of the white people digging through stores? Were they trying to decided on which Nikes were the right size for them?

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

http://www.flickr.com/photos/triciawang/38922728/

http://news.yahoo.com/photo/050830/480/ladm10908301723

[ September 04, 2005, 06:59 PM: Message edited by: 94gt ]

Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:

quote:
Originally posted by sf89lx:

quote:
Originally posted by CocaineWhiteSS:
This could be part of the reason why Kanye West was emotional...

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/09/01/photo_controversy/index.html

I received this email a few days ago and now the first picture of the white couple is removed from Yahoo News. Why?

Subject: WTF?

Definitely screwed up! Read the captions...

white people "find" things
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/050830/...shxwaoma_photo1

black people "loot" things
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/050830/480/ladm10208301530
why has no one commented on this post??? hmm i wonder why...
Error Page not found thats why.
Was the picture of the white people digging through stores? Were they trying to decided on which Nikes were the right size for them?

LOL. at last some humor in this serious debate! No one is going to change the past so let's pray for quick relief from this point forward for the surviviors. [patriot]

Posted by Cobra5.0Jeep (Member # 1482) on :

justice Served! [patriot]

NEW ORLEANS (Reuters) - New Orleans police shot and killed four men and wounded one on Saturday after looters fired on officers, a policeman said.

The incident on Saturday morning, as the city began to clean up from the devastation of hurricane Katrina, resulted in four fatalities and one person in critical condition, said one policeman who asked not to be named. No police were wounded.

"Five men who were looting exchanged gunfire with police. The officers engaged the looters when they were fired upon," said superintendent of New Orleans police, Steven Nichols.

Asked for more details, he said only, "The incident is under police investigation."

Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0Jeep:
justice Served!

NEW ORLEANS (Reuters) - New Orleans police shot and killed four men and wounded one on Saturday after looters fired on officers, a policeman said.

The incident on Saturday morning, as the city began to clean up from the devastation of hurricane Katrina, resulted in four fatalities and one person in critical condition, said one policeman who asked not to be named. No police were wounded.

"Five men who were looting exchanged gunfire with police. The officers engaged the looters when they were fired upon," said superintendent of New Orleans police, Steven Nichols.

Asked for more details, he said only, "The incident is under police investigation."

Some people will never learn! Even if you win a shootout with the police you end up losing! Basards got what they deserved imho! [Whoo Whooooo!]

for the surviving police and rescuers.

Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on :

got what they deserved

but i really hope one of the firing officers is black

i can see it now, kanye west will be claiming it was the white man shooting the poor black man for no reason, they could have used less lethal ways to subdue the poor black man from stealing tv's [Roll Eyes]

Posted by SmokeyBurnout (Member # 5745) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:
got what they deserved

but i really hope one of the firing officers is black

i can see it now, kanye west will be claiming it was the white man shooting the poor black man for no reason, they could have used less lethal ways to subdue the poor black man from stealing tv's

LOL!

Posted by Eddie510 (Member # 2354) on :

lets keep the racial comments to the side like APES?? thanks [patriot]

i dont have no comment. both people have there own opinions and there very interesting to read. we shouldnt dislike each other becuase of this though,because you know we will all see each other at another meet and it will be all good again,lol. [patriot]

damn some of you guys can Talk [patriot]

Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Eddie510:
lets keep the racial comments to the side like APES??

thats racisist! [Eek!]

J/K

Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :

quote:
Originally posted by RixSikCobra:
Check it out asswipe. According to your description of yourself, I'm more black than you are, so it's time for you, mama's boy, to step the fuck off and stop embarrassing yuorself and to stop insulting blacks by insinuating that they are second class citizens. You are preaching that and, sadly, you probably don't even realize it.

You are a mixed boy who lives in Benicia(the KKK captiol of the world last time I checked ) You've grown up either there or some other city around Northern California...which is generally considered the most liberal region in the country. You have grown up in an melting pot your whole life...around people just like yourself and you wanna give us the "whoa is me, they don't understand...." speech. YOU are the one who has no clue about equality and what it takes to be a patriot(do yo know what one is..a patriot?)If ya wanna take up the "whitely hates us" fight, at least go somewhere where it actually MIGHT make sense to the people you debating with. We can't relate because we don't see it, only you do because you look for it, and if ya don't find it, you make it up or twist the facts or go on uneducated, ignorant tirades just to inflame.

Once again, you are a disgrace to all the hard-working, African Americans(and those who have the blood)that help define this GREAT FUCKING COUNTRY. I've lived longer and harder with more black blood in me than you and recieved more racial slurrs than you will in your lifetime. You're way too young to be this bitter. Stop listenng to all of the hate mongers you apparently idolize. You have no clue what a hard life is.

edit: When I was a kid, I couldn't get a date because of my dark skin. I hated being mixed. Now, in the same area where I grew up, the women LOVE my dark skin and it's easy to get dates(not that I'm looking). I grew up in a white town, bothe parents died before I was the age of 12, I finished HS on my own, college on my own, and now I have a great job and am successful. ALL on my own. How? OPPORTUNITY AND HARD WORK. There are more opportunities than EVER before because we "feel sorry" for black people. It's not right in my book, but none-the-less there is opportunity anfter opportunity for young black men and especially women....the hard work part usually discourages them though.

signed...I can't sign because whitey has kept me down and I can't spell.

Posted by graylx (Member # 3919) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Eddie510:
all i know his cd is selling. we went to rasputins and eveybody was on it..

And alot of people bought spandex during the 80s. Doesn't mean it's tasteful.

Posted by graylx (Member # 3919) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 306Coupe:

quote:
Originally posted by SmokeyBurnout:
In a way I wish this shit would have happened to white people so I wouldn't be hearing all this race bullshit. To me it's just another excuse for blacks to hate whites.
blacks to hate whites?
We don't need another excuse. There are too many reasons to list. You guys have no passion for one another. The blacks that are racist have plenty of reasons to be, Now the whiote racist... none what soever. And the difference between the black racist and white racist is the power factor. Blacks have never threaten the well being of another race. The white racist, (migs66/92)on the other hand do. Let me give you guys a history lesson. The Africa americans, Native americans and Chinese built this nation from the ground up. The reason why the north abolished slavery was fear of an uprising like the one that took place in Haiti and the fact that the south was becoming too polically power because of the 3/5 clause. So with the combination of fear and political stance the north "faught" for the freedom of blacks. Thoughout the 20th century, events such as the creation of the KKK, segregation in the south, emmit till, MLK assasination, Malcom X assasination, watts riots, Black panther destruction (which was order by the president and said that the black panther was the biggest security issue in the U.S. at the time) and so on, and so have been the struggles we the African Americans had to endure , which no other race had too. Blacks have always been used for political gain. Today New Orleans doesn't have much to offer, so the government isn't going all out like they would in other situations. Also where are all those countries that we helped during the Tsunmi?

No sir. The reason that Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation was to undermine the economy of the South during the time of war. Many African-American slaves were still laboring to produce supplies for the Confederate war effort. By abolishing slavery, Lincoln reasoned that it would greatly affect the South's ability to fight the war. If the South couldn't supply their own troops with supplies, how could they expect to win? There was no fear of an "uprising" as blacks were completely subjugated at the time.

And another thing, every new "race" that has come to America has been the subject of discrimination. The Irish, the Chinese, the Slavs, the Italians, the Mexicans, the Hmong, the Japanese. While none of these groups has suffered to the extent of the African-Americans under slavery, it is fallacious to insinuate that blacks have a monopoly on discrimination.

Furthermore, many of these groups have integrated into American society to a much greater extent than blacks. I suppose it is easier to integrate and become successful when one is more willing to reconcile with the dominant culture/power structure than blame the power structure for a groups cultural problems.

You also contend that blacks have been used for political gain. I'd hate to break it to you, but that's how our political system works. A candidate or political party seeks the support of a particular group by promising favor and political access. African-Americans have used politicians and our political system every bit as much as politicians have used African-Americans for votes.

But what does any of this matter? Most people will see what they want to see, rather than pick up a book and take an unbiased look at a situation.

Posted by graylx (Member # 3919) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 306Coupe:

quote:
Originally posted by 94gt:

quote:
Originally posted by 306Coupe:
Today New Orleans doesn't have much to offer, so the government isn't going all out like they would in other situations. Also where are all those countries that we helped during the Tsunmi?
"going all out" what does that mean? like numerous of us have said... they cant teleport things in there, it takes time to move supplies... what cnn doesnt show you is the military aircraft flying people and supplies there 24/7.
CNN dies show me them passing over the people on the bridge for days and days. All out is like what happened during the Tsumni. The US had troops over seas helping out quicker than they had them in their own country. Also the U.S. is doing some things now, but it's the response time that matters. Do yuou think it takes more than a day for a plane to come from South Carolina carrying supplies? Nope. I don't believe they moved as quickly as they could. I do realize JohnB and other U.S. military are helping but more can be done elsewhere

Untrue. It took the U.S. awhile to summon enough supplies for the tsunami effort. You also have to remember that New Orleans does not have any infrastructure right now. It has been mentioned various times. Passable roads and an operating airport are necessary to expedite the relief effort. Unfortunately, New Orleans lacks either of these.

Posted by 93venom (Member # 778) on :

RIXSIKCOBRA---------you are the fuckin man,i dont have to post anything because you took everything i had to say out of my mouth.....i look forward to one day meeting you, you seem like a good guy to know....right on for the good,logical, and valid points from someone who actually lives the life everyday...thank you [patriot]

Posted by WRS92GT (Member # 5008) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Eddie510:
lets keep the racial comments to the side like APES?? thanks i dont have no comment. both people have there own opinions and there very interesting to read. we shouldnt dislike each other becuase of this though,because you know we will all see each other at another meet and it will be all good again,lol. damn some of you guys can Talk

You're right I'm sorry. I should not insult an ape that way by saying that the looters of New Orleans are "apes"! Apes would certainly not act in that fashion. I am sorry that I catagorized an animal that is for the most part a peace loving creature with the likes of the fucking garbage in New Orleans that feel because of a natural disaster that being an opportunist is something worth while. What is an opportunist you ask? Someone that feels as though raping, murdering and causing mayhem is ok in the wake of such a horrible event. I mean I fully understand that these looters hadn't eaten in days so it was 110% ok for them to steal fucking plasma screen tv's, Playstations and Nike's because after all when I'm hungry I just rip into a Sony Wega tv or a pair of Air Jordans. Yum!

Posted by WRS92GT (Member # 5008) on :

This is an article from "The Intellectual Activist" which probably has the most accurate take you will see on the hurricane's aftermath in New Orleans

An Unnatural Disaster: A Hurricane Exposes the Man-Made Disaster of the Welfare State

by Robert Tracinski
Sep 02, 2005
by Robert Tracinski
It has taken four long days for state and federal officials to figure out how to deal with the disaster in New Orleans. I can't blame them, because it has also taken me four long days to figure out what is going on there. The reason is that the events there make no sense if you think that we are confronting a natural disaster.

If this is just a natural disaster, the response for public officials is obvious: you bring in food, water, and doctors; you send transportation to evacuate refugees to temporary shelters; you send engineers to stop the flooding and rebuild the city's infrastructure. For journalists, natural disasters also have a familiar pattern: the heroism of ordinary people pulling together to survive; the hard work and dedication of doctors, nurses, and rescue workers; the steps being taken to clean up and rebuild.

Public officials did not expect that the first thing they would have to do is to send thousands of armed troops in armored vehicle, as if they are suppressing an enemy insurgency. And journalists--myself included--did not expect that the story would not be about rain, wind, and flooding, but about rape, murder, and looting.

But this is not a natural disaster. It is a man-made disaster.

The man-made disaster is not an inadequate or incompetent response by federal relief agencies, and it was not directly caused by Hurricane Katrina. This is where just about every newspaper and television channel has gotten the story wrong.

The man-made disaster we are now witnessing in New Orleans did not happen over the past four days. It happened over the past four decades. Hurricane Katrina merely exposed it to public view.

The man-made disaster is the welfare state.

For the past few days, I have found the news from New Orleans to be confusing. People were not behaving as you would expect them to behave in an emergency--indeed, they were not behaving as they have behaved in other emergencies. That is what has shocked so many people: they have been saying that this is not what we expect from America. In fact, it is not even what we expect from a Third World country.

When confronted with a disaster, people usually rise to the occasion. They work together to rescue people in danger, and they spontaneously organize to keep order and solve problems. This is especially true in America. We are an enterprising people, used to relying on our own initiative rather than waiting around for the government to take care of us. I have seen this a hundred times, in small examples (a small town whose main traffic light had gone out, causing ordinary citizens to get out of their cars and serve as impromptu traffic cops, directing cars through the intersection) and large ones (the spontaneous response of New Yorkers to September 11).

So what explains the chaos in New Orleans?

To give you an idea of the magnitude of what is going on, here is a description from a Washington Times story:

"Storm victims are raped and beaten; fights erupt with flying fists, knives and guns; fires are breaking out; corpses litter the streets; and police and rescue helicopters are repeatedly fired on.

"The plea from Mayor C. Ray Nagin came even as National Guardsmen poured in to restore order and stop the looting, carjackings and gunfire....

"Last night, Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco said 300 Iraq-hardened Arkansas National Guard members were inside New Orleans with shoot-to-kill orders.

" 'These troops are...under my orders to restore order in the streets,' she said. 'They have M-16s, and they are locked and loaded. These troops know how to shoot and kill and they are more than willing to do so if necessary and I expect they will.' "

The reference to Iraq is eerie. The photo that accompanies this article shows National Guard troops, with rifles and armored vests, riding on an armored vehicle through trash-strewn streets lined by a rabble of squalid, listless people, one of whom appears to be yelling at them. It looks exactly like a scene from Sadr City in Baghdad.

What explains bands of thugs using a natural disaster as an excuse for an orgy of looting, armed robbery, and rape? What causes unruly mobs to storm the very buses that have arrived to evacuate them, causing the drivers to drive away, frightened for their lives? What causes people to attack the doctors trying to treat patients at the Super Dome?

Why are people responding to natural destruction by causing further destruction? Why are they attacking the people who are trying to help them?

My wife, Sherri, figured it out first, and she figured it out on a sense-of-life level. While watching the coverage last night on Fox News Channel, she told me that she was getting a familiar feeling. She studied architecture at the Illinois Institute of Chicago, which is located in the South Side of Chicago just blocks away from the Robert Taylor Homes, one of the largest high-rise public housing projects in America. "The projects," as they were known, were infamous for uncontrollable crime and irremediable squalor. (They have since, mercifully, been demolished.)

What Sherri was getting from last night's television coverage was a whiff of the sense of life of "the projects." Then the "crawl"--the informational phrases flashed at the bottom of the screen on most news channels--gave some vital statistics to confirm this sense: 75% of the residents of New Orleans had already evacuated before the hurricane, and of the 300,000 or so who remained, a large number were from the city's public housing projects. Jack Wakeland then gave me an additional, crucial fact: early reports from CNN and Fox indicated that the city had no plan for evacuating all of the prisoners in the city's jails--so they just let many of them loose. There is no doubt a significant overlap between these two populations--that is, a large number of people in the jails used to live in the housing projects, and vice versa.

There were many decent, innocent people trapped in New Orleans when the deluge hit--but they were trapped alongside large numbers of people from two groups: criminals--and wards of the welfare state, people selected, over decades, for their lack of initiative and self-induced helplessness. The welfare wards were a mass of sheep--on whom the incompetent administration of New Orleans unleashed a pack of wolves.

All of this is related, incidentally, to the apparent incompetence of the city government, which failed to plan for a total evacuation of the city, despite the knowledge that this might be necessary. But in a city corrupted by the welfare state, the job of city officials is to ensure the flow of handouts to welfare recipients and patronage to political supporters--not to ensure a lawful, orderly evacuation in case of emergency.

No one has really reported this story, as far as I can tell. In fact, some are already actively distorting it, blaming President Bush, for example, for failing to personally ensure that the Mayor of New Orleans had drafted an adequate evacuation plan. The worst example is an execrable piece from the Toronto Globe and Mail, by a supercilious Canadian who blames the chaos on American "individualism." But the truth is precisely the opposite: the chaos was caused by a system that was the exact opposite of individualism.

What Hurricane Katrina exposed was the psychological consequences of the welfare state. What we consider "normal" behavior in an emergency is behavior that is normal for people who have values and take the responsibility to pursue and protect them. People with values respond to a disaster by fighting against it and doing whatever it takes to overcome the difficulties they face. They don't sit around and complain that the government hasn't taken care of them. They don't use the chaos of a disaster as an opportunity to prey on their fellow men.

But what about criminals and welfare parasites? Do they worry about saving their houses and property? They don't, because they don't own anything. Do they worry about what is going to happen to their businesses or how they are going to make a living? They never worried about those things before. Do they worry about crime and looting? But living off of stolen wealth is a way of life for them.

The welfare state--and the brutish, uncivilized mentality it sustains and encourages--is the man-made disaster that explains the moral ugliness that has swamped New Orleans. And that is the story that no one is reporting.

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