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http://www.news10.net/story/news/investigations/2014/07/31/sacramento-sheriff-admits-to-use-of-cell-phone-spying-technology/13429645/

Confidential informants lol

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Big brother at it again!! [BS flag] [Frown]

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Apparently its cool to invade our privacy
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Apparently they won't discuss how it works and regards the system a confidential informant which means they don't have to reveal the source of their data if you get popped for something.

Sacramento is the first county to implement it and all the other districts are trying to get it...

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Now they know people watch twerking videos all day, who cares.
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Who makes illegal moves on the phone anyways.
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The government has been watching us.

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They spent $250k and don't have to account for it????That's what I am more concerned about.
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Still need a warrant to tap a land line.
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They want to use the GPS in your phone to track your speed too, fyi
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quote:
Originally posted by 135.0:
They want to use the GPS in your phone to track your speed too, fyi

So if I throw it I'll get a speeding ticket?

If anything the information collected can be used to further prove your innocence in most cases. No more exaggerating your speed on tickets.

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quote:
Originally posted by MauriSSio:

If anything the information collected can be used to further prove your innocence in most cases. No more exaggerating your speed on tickets.

See if you think like this, they'll always pass bs stuff on people. They won't use it to help you they'll use it to make more money with less work.

Same with that fining people for sagging their pants in other states. Sure people like the idea because they don't want to see it. But do you really want the state to start controlling what you wear and how you wear it? To me all the government is trying to do is control us in every way, and the people who only see the tiny bit of help we get from it are the ones letting bullshit things pass.

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http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/02/fbi-really-doesnt-want-anyone-to-know-about-stingray-use-by-local-cops/

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Keeping you up to date:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-is-the-big-secret-surrounding-stingray-surveillance/

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One year anniversary of a great sticky!
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Protecting and serving the shit out of us still.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJunhvhdkS4&feature=youtu.be

They finally owned up to it and are admitting they've had it since 2006!

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What do you expect? Look at these companies that turned on American citizens

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Prism_slide_5.jpg

and hand over all of this data from all of their customers https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/PRISM_Collection_Details.jpg

For talking and texting everyone knows to use the
Signal ap Install Signal for iPhone IOS or Install signal for Android with a long hard to guess pass phrase. Anyone know of other companies that don't screw over their customers like the crooked ones mentioned in the slides above do?

[ 2016-03-26, 10:33 PM: Message edited by: Martinna ]

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The best way to protect yourself against cyber theift is to....... Not put your personal shit on the internet. People give up all their personal info on facebook and other apps to their 1000+ people they've never met in their lives LOL.

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quote:
Originally posted by Martinna:
What do you expect? Look at these companies that turned on American citizens

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Prism_slide_5.jpg

and hand over all of this data from all of their customers https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/PRISM_Collection_Details.jpg

For talking and texting everyone knows to use the
Signal ap from https://whispersystems.org with a long hard to guess pass phrase. Anyone know of other companies that don't screw over their customers like the crooked ones mentioned in the slides above do?

So what happens when the other party your texting doesn't have the app then it's still basically an unsecured sms-mms message and it defeats the purpose right?
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Very good question. Both parties need the ap installed. 100% of normal text messages and phone calls are now recorded by the government. This revolution was not televised [patriot] You had no say in this change, no vote, no public discussion [patriot]

The Signal ap from https://whispersystems.org functions similar to facebook chat/WhatsApp, google hangouts or skype. Both ends need to have Signal installed to talk, just like both ends need Skype installed to talk. What's different about Signal is that only the recipient on the other end can decrypt your text message or hear your voice. Big corporations like facebook and google only encrypt your conversation between you and their servers. Then Facebook/Google decrypts your private conversation and keeps a copy for themselves to analyze for information they can sell to their advertisers, and then facebook/google gives the full copy of your conversation to the government to store and analyze! The government's own documents which were never intended for its citizens to ever see brag about this fact, take a look ------ https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/PRISM_Collection_Details.jpg [Eek!]

Those perverts at google will also read your private information and stalk children http://gawker.com/5637234/gcreep-google-engineer-stalked-teens-spied-on-chats [Eek!] Not surprising this stuff happens, google's business model is surveillance. With the Signal ap this can never happen because only the phone on the other end can decrypt your message, versus google, facebook, whatsap, microsoft, skype, apple, and the rest which all access and process all of your messages, then give a copy to the government.

So what can you do? You have very few options, and installing the free Signal ap from https://whispersystems.org is one of the best!

Take a look at the chart below of secure messaging platforms. Almost all of them provide zero security or privacy!

https://www.eff.org/secure-messaging-scorecard


Out of the few aps you can trust that have 100% green marks. Cryptocat was shut down. The Government tried to do a sting operation on its creator. Chatsecure+Orbot still exists last time I checked, haven't checked up. Silent Text and Silent Phone are great, but you have to pay for them. Telegram was proven to be a fraud, they were exposed for keeping a copy of your chats on their servers in clear text, zero trust. Text Secure was merged with Redphone into the Signal ap. The OTR plugin from https://otr.cypherpunks.ca/ when used with https://pidgin.im works for PC chats. The MAC version Adium has authors that are a bit sketchy, so it can't be fully trusted, but at least google can't fully spy on you with Adium if you use the OTR plugin on a MAC.

TL;DR;

The Signal ap https://whispersystems.org with a long pass phrase {a couple of random words} is the most viable ap we have these days for protection against crooked government, corporation and law enforcement employees. Next best is a paid ap Silent Phone and Silent text from the company Silent Circle. There is also Pidgin with the OTR plugin for PCs, with logging disabled in the preferences on both sides. That's it. Pretty much safe to say all other chat apps are bullshit and collude with the government and other companies behind your back, while lying about it to your face. Just the facts. [patriot]

Real talk; Google, Facebook/Whatsapp, Skype, Apple, Microsoft can't be trusted with anything. They betray and lie to their users every day. [BS flag]

[ 2016-03-11, 01:31 AM: Message edited by: Martinna ]

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The new generation doesn't have a clue how important this kind of stuff is! They would never use this against you....right??

Be careful when you blindly follow the masses. Sometimes the M is silent.

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Yes, but maybe it's the older generations fault for not teaching them well.

Surprise, NS A data is about to be used by cops to come at us for things that have nothing to do with "terrorism"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2016/03/10/surprise-nsa-data-will-soon-routinely-be-used-for-domestic-policing-that-has-nothing-to-do-with-terrorism/

this is the definition of a police state [Eek!]

Some tips for talking to the police ------

https://www.eff.org/files/2015/11/23/3mod-police_tips_9-8-2015.pdf


Found some new info on the Prism program linked before. This program takes copy of all the text, video and voice data from Apple, Google, Facebook, Yahoo, Microsoft and the rest. The link below shows the FB I that gets their own copy, sometimes the CIA gets a copy too, and then they pass the rest over to the NS A [Eek!]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/Prism-slide-7.jpg

[ 2016-03-16, 03:25 AM: Message edited by: Martinna ]

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quote:
Originally posted by SLOWBACK 67:
The best way to protect yourself against cyber theift is to....... Not put your personal shit on the internet. People give up all their personal info on facebook and other apps to their 1000+ people they've never met in their lives LOL.

Yes, this is a good start. Your private information is worth billions. Surveillance is the business model of companies like facebook and google. They take your personal information which you give to them for free and sell it to advertising companies and give a copy of all your information to the government. Your information is so valuable, in less than a decade it turned these small companies into two of the richest most powerful in the world. Think about how valuable your personal information is to corporations and governments before you give it away for free. At least BS some of it [Razz]

[ 2016-03-26, 10:41 PM: Message edited by: Martinna ]

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Just release ---- California law enforcement offers regularly use computer databases to spy on innocent citizens instead of true criminals.


TL;DR ---- Law enforcement agents like cops have access to a government database containing personal information on you. Cops regularly use this database to spy on innocent citizens for personal use. You can imagine what they use it for, spying on girlfriends, love interests, friends, people they don't like. All this information is available to them ----- https://www.eff.org/files/2015/11/17/clets_diagram_-_information.png


You can't say spying is okay if it's just google or just facebook or just the NSA doing the snooping. Your personal information always gets passed around and shared behind your back! Surveillance is morally wrong, no matter who does it. Don't be a sucker and accept it!

[patriot]

[ 2016-04-05, 04:21 PM: Message edited by: Martinna ]

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