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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
Get a mild to wild switch

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Originally posted by SIC9250:
My question is about BAR/REF and if that has a fine that can be paid to avoid going at all??..Or is your vin tagged or thrown on a incompliance list from DMV for registration renewal until you pass BAR or something else along those lines??..I would pay the $1000 for the modified exhaust,it is what it is,I live where I live and not moving out of the state because these sorry asses don’t like how my car sounds,not gonna let the state dictate my mods to my cars and how I go about my passion for horsepower,but if the car gets tagged and cannot be legally driven on the street because it won’t pass BAR that’s an issue.Would be fucked for a guy who say has a twin screw cobra with a full fuel system and full exhaust to bring his car to legal compliance and cannot do the wrench time himself, in order to keep the car on the road,I’m sure he would just pay out his ass in fines to avoid that I know I would,sounds stupid but my headers are staying on my car fuck you California

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My question is about BAR/REF and if that has a fine that can be paid to avoid going at all??..Or is your vin tagged or thrown on a incompliance list from DMV for registration renewal until you pass BAR or something else along those lines??..I would pay the $1000 for the modified exhaust,it is what it is,I live where I live and not moving out of the state because these sorry asses don’t like how my car sounds,not gonna let the state dictate my mods to my cars and how I go about my passion for horsepower,but if the car gets tagged and cannot be legally driven on the street because it won’t pass BAR that’s an issue.Would be fucked for a guy who say has a twin screw cobra with a full fuel system and full exhaust to bring his car to legal compliance and cannot do the wrench time himself, in order to keep the car on the road,I’m sure he would just pay out his ass in fines to avoid that I know I would,sounds stupid but my headers are staying on my car fuck you California

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If you get the ticket you must go to BAR. No if ands or buts.

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Originally posted by Martinna:
SIC9250 ----- how did the cops get you for a cold air and headers? Shouldn't CARB stickers be enough for the cops?

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SIC9250 ----- how did the cops get you for a cold air and headers? Shouldn't CARB stickers be enough for the cops?

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At the time I had bolt ons,my bbk intake did not have a sticker on it,i bought it used and it was not present,same with my bassani shorty headers no carb, so the cop sent me to ref(pulled me over for exhaust rolling down sunrise blvd 3pm on a weekday) when I went the first time I threw cats on the car and manifolds with a stock air box (bbk and bassani would not send carb stickers as I was not the original purchaser is was very irritating) and it wouldn’t pass the sniffer which was all apart of getting the car corrected for court (and NO it wasn’t just a easy as putting different mufflers on the car and cats for a DB reading they wanted a full inspection,DB compliance AND emissions test) I went home played with a few things and ofcourse typical fox it didn’t pass the 2nd time so I said fuck it and paid the full fine it was about $1200 total,the exhaust fee was only $400 ish the fine for not passing REF was $800 ish..Just hope In case this happens and ref comes along again that things haven’t changed and I can just pay up and not put a wrench on my car.

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Consumers in receipt of a violation still have the option of seeking a certificate of compliance from the California Bureau of Automotive Repair (BAR) demonstrating that their exhaust emits no more than 95-decibels. This SEMA-sponsored program allows courts to dismiss citations for exhaust systems that have been tested and for which a certificate of compliance has been issued."

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Does this mean people put quiet exhaust back on their car and get a certificate of compliance from BAR? When a California cop pulls you over, you show them the certificate so the cop will have to think up of a new crime to fine you for?

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From what I’ve read the cop just needs to think your car is loud. From there you have to take it to bar and prove it’s under the 95 dB level. I’ve read a post that a guy in a stock m4 got a ticket and his stock exhaust is over 95 DB. He took it to court with proof from bar that it was stock but still had to pay a 1k fine.

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Originally posted by racsirx:
I was wondering if stock cars could get busted, my stock GT350 is rated 92 DB, but seems louder than 92 DB, but it always has a switch for the exhaust from the factory so isn’t that illegal for California also?

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Originally posted by SIC9250:
Customer of mine I built a 04 cobra for with a VMP 2.3/JBA headers/JLT intake/No cats/bassani catback,just got a state ref ticket for modified exhaust/intake/supercharger,he walked into court today,told them he was not getting the ticket written off by state referee and would like to just pay the fine,the clerk told him his fine would be reduced and he declined again,she sent him into the courtroom and he showed the judge a couple carb numbers for his headers and jlt intake and told the judge he declined getting the car referred,he walk out paying $680 and his car will stay modded..My question was answered, it is not in concrete and a must do to go to referee with your car,pay to play and stay loud fellas,welcome to Cali

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SIC9250 ----- how did the cops get you for a cold air and headers? Shouldn't CARB stickers be enough for the cops?

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At the time I had bolt ons,my bbk intake did not have a sticker on it,i bought it used and it was not present,same with my bassani shorty headers no carb, so the cop sent me to ref(pulled me over for exhaust rolling down sunrise blvd 3pm on a weekday) when I went the first time I threw cats on the car and manifolds with a stock air box (bbk and bassani would not send carb stickers as I was not the original purchaser is was very irritating) and it wouldn’t pass the sniffer which was all apart of getting the car corrected for court (and NO it wasn’t just a easy as putting different mufflers on the car and cats for a DB reading they wanted a full inspection,DB compliance AND emissions test) I went home played with a few things and ofcourse typical fox it didn’t pass the 2nd time so I said fuck it and paid the full fine it was about $1200 total,the exhaust fee was only $400 ish the fine for not passing REF was $800 ish..Just hope In case this happens and ref comes along again that things haven’t changed and I can just pay up and not put a wrench on my car.

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Sad to hear so many stories like yours. I've heard of people printing stickers themselves from pictures taken of the originals. Setting your timing to 13 degrees base and using a SPOUT connector with one metal contact removed to prevent the computer from advancing timing would have allowed your car to pass the smog test with no trouble. A lot of Ford cars from the 1980s used spout connectors. Find one in the junk yard and gut its pin to have your own special guaranteed to pass smog spout. Loan the spout to your friends when you're done.

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Originally posted by 97cobra209:
I wonder if your liable to get towed say after 2-3 times being pulled over and then would y’all really be paying every time you take your car out $6-800 that just doesn’t make sense.

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Originally posted by Blown93Snake:
The spout only completes the circuit. Taking it out is the same thing as trying to "modify" it to only have one prong.. lmfao.

Who the fuck told you that gay shit?

And nope.. you're wrong. You set your shit to 13* they will fail you. That isn't factory.. I literally just went through all this.

At least, if you go to a shop that's supposed to follow the law.. anyways.

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