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CoyoteMike
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Reposted from another site:
Everybody loves peace. What you have to consider is the terms and measures people are prepared to undertake to achieve that peace. Islamic peace looks different to Western peace.
You cannot properly claim to know what proponents of a religion want until you understand what it is the religion actually commands of it's followers, as opposed to what the majority of self professed XYZists do.
The problem with Islam is that according to his own words, Mohammed actually carried out attacks on innocent people. He also commanded his followers to carry out attacks. Jesus, on the other hand, did not. This is why Christians will condemn the extremely occasional lone nutjob instantly and universally - any act of violence serves as evidence that he's in blatant error of the teachings of the Christ he claims to follow. Conversely, attacks by Muslims are (let's get real here) far more frequent, organized, institutionalized and lethal. People are quick to compare Christian violence with Islamic violence, but there's no comparison. In modern times, there has been a relatively small spattering of killers who claim to have done so in the name of Christ, as opposed to the countless regimes, terror factions and geurrilla armies who murder constantly and right before our eyes in the name of Islam. There is no Christian ISIS, Al Quaeda, or Boko Haram.
Muslims cannot truly condemn such attacks with the backing of the Qu'ran behind them. Will they condemn their prophet's attacks also? Of course not. The reality is - as much as we don't like to admit it - that the religion of Islam allows for violence of this kind.
Remember; a very small percentage of National Socialists actually gassed people. If we judged Nazism by the volume of people who actually killed - let's call them fundamentalist Nazis - then the 2015 opinion of Nazism would most likely be something along the lines of "generally peace loving people who's reputation is marred by a few extremists." Obviously that isn't the case, because we recognize that the core ideology behind Nazism is violent, regardless of how many of it's adherents carry the violent acts out. From this alone, we are able to conclude that Nazism as a whole is evil, and anyone who claims to subscribe to its teachings ought to earn the automatic and justified suspicion of those who value virtues such as freedom and racial equality, regardless of whether or not they have gassed any Jews personally (and yes, I just compared Islam to Nazism. Spare me the "OMG did you just compare..." comments.)
We ask the wrong question when we ask: Are all Muslims terrorists? No. Of course they aren't. What we should be asking is does the Qu'ran allow and endorse violence such as this? The answer is a definite yes, and that is a problem that has tainted Middle Eastern and European history from around the year 860, right up until now.
Remember that Muslims are permitted to lie and deceive infidels like you. If there is a distrust of Muslims, it is not unfounded.
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Just that you also remember That Hitler got all his ideas for death camps from the catholic church and the the US Government and how they dealt with the "indian" problem here. so all in all ALL Religions are meant to control small minded slaves in to doing what ever you want
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Martinna
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Does anyone know why they hate us?
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quote: Originally posted by Martinna: Does anyone know why they hate us?
Who do you consider us? Because this is happening all over the world and its not just the US [ 2016-07-15, 08:11 AM: Message edited by: 135.0 ]
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CoyoteMike
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quote: Originally posted by Martinna: Does anyone know why they hate us?
Because this tells them too. You can double speak around it all you want. The Moslems doing the killings are the ones following the word of their book. Everything else is Muslim-light
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Martinna
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Improbable it's from reading a book. Forgoing that every holy book contains passes relating to violence and peace. Very few religious zealots of any faith actually read their holy book. The attackers are always numbskulls. They're the type that couldn't read a whole book if they wanted to. Even if they do, there are a billion Muslims on Earth. Out of 1,000,000,000 people, a few hundred tops read a book and decide to kill people? Just doesn't seem likely. If a 1,000,000,000 people read a book and 100 of them attack, is it really the book's fault?
100 / 1,000,000,000 = 0.0000001%.
Anyone know why do they hate us? [ 2016-07-19, 02:07 AM: Message edited by: Martinna ]
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