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theconductor
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quote: Originally posted by 135.0:
Legal Immigrants can do so much more than pick strawberries, pick cotton, work at McDonalds and scrub toilets. I have a friend who practically got his Engineering degree for free all because he was 1st generation Mexican American. This country will definitely give you a good chance to make something of yourself. The more illegals that come into the country the more this dilutes the opportunity the legal ones can receive. Trump is going to make America great again and this will in turn make Mexico great again too.
You can make it to America as a legal immigrant, people act like that the only way in is getting your back all wet. As a legal immigrant you will have a choice yourself if you want to scrub toilets or become rich. The sky's the limit.
I don't think that I could agree with you more here. I do think it should be easy for someone to become a legal immigrant. At least easier.
There was a time when California allowed immigrants to enter the state legally for the growing and harvest seasons to work. It's too bad that policy went by the wayside. [ 2016-05-13, 10:09 AM: Message edited by: theconductor ]
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Posts: 349 | From: Roseville, CA | Registered: Feb 2014
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90GT510
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quote: Originally posted by 135.0: quote: Originally posted by Martinna: quote: Originally posted by theconductor: um, oops... That wall is in Arizona...
http://www.snopes.com/mexico-guatemala-border/
And that's why agenda driven politcal "messages" from any side should be ingored.
Very well said
Americans are very fortunate to have people across the world give up everything they have to come to a new land. In this new land they often wash dishes, pick strawberries and do tasks spoiled Americans wouldn't dare. They do these tasks for very low pay. Their only motivation is to give their children a chance. Opportunities they never had themselves.
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My Dad used to tell us: "En este pais, ustedes van a poder lograr todas las cosas que nosotros no pudimos" "In this country, you will be able to accomplish all the things we never could."
A few years ago during a speech, I noticed a bartender behind a portable bar at the back of the ballroom. I remembered my father who had worked for many years as a banquet bartender.
He was grateful for the work he had, but that's not the life he wanted for us.
He stood behind a bar in the back of the room all those years, so one day I could stand behind a podium in the front of a room.
That journey, from behind that bar to behind this podium, goes to the essence of the American miracle — that we're exceptional not because we have more rich people here.
We're special because dreams that are impossible anywhere else, come true here.
That's not just my story. That's your story. That's our story.
--US Senator Marco Rubio
Legal Immigrants can do so much more than pick strawberries, pick cotton, work at McDonalds and scrub toilets. I have a friend who practically got his Engineering degree for free all because he was 1st generation Mexican American. This country will definitely give you a good chance to make something of yourself. The more illegals that come into the country the more this dilutes the opportunity the legal ones can receive. Trump is going to make America great again and this will in turn make Mexico great again too.
You can make it to America as a legal immigrant, people act like that the only way in is getting your back all wet. As a legal immigrant you will have a choice yourself if you want to scrub toilets or become rich. The sky's the limit.
Well if trump ain't a racist u proved his supporters are.
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Martinna
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90GT510 ---- I couldn't agree with you more. If you read his posts, there is a racist undertone to many of them. It is usually against blacks, but mexicans get their share. He tries to hide it, but does a poor job. I respect people more if they don't hide their true beliefs behind walls and share their feelings. Only then can we have an honest and open discussion.
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68dustin
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PROUD OF YOUR BOY!!!
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Posts: 3986 | From: neverland | Registered: Feb 2005
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quote: Originally posted by 90GT510: quote: Originally posted by 135.0: quote: Originally posted by Martinna: quote: Originally posted by theconductor: um, oops... That wall is in Arizona...
http://www.snopes.com/mexico-guatemala-border/
And that's why agenda driven politcal "messages" from any side should be ingored.
Very well said
Americans are very fortunate to have people across the world give up everything they have to come to a new land. In this new land they often wash dishes, pick strawberries and do tasks spoiled Americans wouldn't dare. They do these tasks for very low pay. Their only motivation is to give their children a chance. Opportunities they never had themselves.
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My Dad used to tell us: "En este pais, ustedes van a poder lograr todas las cosas que nosotros no pudimos" "In this country, you will be able to accomplish all the things we never could."
A few years ago during a speech, I noticed a bartender behind a portable bar at the back of the ballroom. I remembered my father who had worked for many years as a banquet bartender.
He was grateful for the work he had, but that's not the life he wanted for us.
He stood behind a bar in the back of the room all those years, so one day I could stand behind a podium in the front of a room.
That journey, from behind that bar to behind this podium, goes to the essence of the American miracle — that we're exceptional not because we have more rich people here.
We're special because dreams that are impossible anywhere else, come true here.
That's not just my story. That's your story. That's our story.
--US Senator Marco Rubio
Legal Immigrants can do so much more than pick strawberries, pick cotton, work at McDonalds and scrub toilets. I have a friend who practically got his Engineering degree for free all because he was 1st generation Mexican American. This country will definitely give you a good chance to make something of yourself. The more illegals that come into the country the more this dilutes the opportunity the legal ones can receive. Trump is going to make America great again and this will in turn make Mexico great again too.
You can make it to America as a legal immigrant, people act like that the only way in is getting your back all wet. As a legal immigrant you will have a choice yourself if you want to scrub toilets or become rich. The sky's the limit.
Well if trump ain't a racist u proved his supporters are.
How so?
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quote: Originally posted by Martinna: 90GT510 ---- I couldn't agree with you more. If you read his posts, there is a racist undertone to many of them. It is usually against blacks, but mexicans get their share. He tries to hide it, but does a poor job. I respect people more if they don't hide their true beliefs behind walls and share their feelings. Only then can we have an honest and open discussion.
Racist undertone is dependent on the context, please explain? By your definition somehow now I'm racist. Sounds like your self made barrier to actually having an open and honest discussion.
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quote: Originally posted by theconductor: quote: Originally posted by 135.0:
Legal Immigrants can do so much more than pick strawberries, pick cotton, work at McDonalds and scrub toilets. I have a friend who practically got his Engineering degree for free all because he was 1st generation Mexican American. This country will definitely give you a good chance to make something of yourself. The more illegals that come into the country the more this dilutes the opportunity the legal ones can receive. Trump is going to make America great again and this will in turn make Mexico great again too.
You can make it to America as a legal immigrant, people act like that the only way in is getting your back all wet. As a legal immigrant you will have a choice yourself if you want to scrub toilets or become rich. The sky's the limit.
I don't think that I could agree with you more here. I do think it should be easy for someone to become a legal immigrant. At least easier.
There was a time when California allowed immigrants to enter the state legally for the growing and harvest seasons to work. It's too bad that policy went by the wayside.
I think we shouldn't reward illegal behavior but yes make it easier for immigrants to become legal as long as they are not at war with us or a criminal. Didn't Cesar Chavez help get rid of that because the ranch owners were using them to break up the union with cheaper labor?
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CoyoteMike
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Hillary perpetuating the myth.... lol
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CoyoteMike
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Hmmm Trumps plan for college loans and the cost of college is actually spot on:
http://redalertpolitics.com/2016/05/13/donald-trumps-college-reform-ideas-surprisingly-good/#lJ2iXC5Psw5YR0Jx.99
-------------------- Racist, bigot Michael Ford / Mike Ford aka FiveOhMike of 2039 XXXXXXXy XXX Livermore, CA 94551, DOB Nov 3X, 1980 925-XXX-6667 and Director at Midokura Corp has been banned for continual threats of violence against other members, half a dozen fake accounts, lying to police to implicate CAFords and other shameful acts of revealing character. He is reported to be well armed and regularly spotted at the Dublin/Pleasanton BART station.
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Robb
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The ones that always pull the race card are the uneducated clueless people who have no business even having an opinion on the matter.
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If you really want to hear some "racist overtones", you need look no further than "Krazy Joe Biden". Pull up dome this guy's comments, then come back on here and prove "The Don" even comes Close to this Dick. [ 2016-05-23, 06:05 PM: Message edited by: *Als50* ]
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^ That's funny LOL.
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quote: Originally posted by 135.0: Legal Immigrants can do so much more than pick strawberries, pick cotton, work at McDonalds and scrub toilets. I have a friend who practically got his Engineering degree for free all because he was 1st generation Mexican American. This country will definitely give you a good chance to make something of yourself. The more illegals that come into the country the more this dilutes the opportunity the legal ones can receive. Trump is going to make America great again and this will in turn make Mexico great again too.
You can make it to America as a legal immigrant, people act like that the only way in is getting your back all wet. As a legal immigrant you will have a choice yourself if you want to scrub toilets or become rich. The sky's the limit.
Precicely!! Well said.
You can even become president!!!
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