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Just kidding this is in the bible....
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Erg tof begin van het nieuwe seizoen! Goed experiment hebben door alles wat ze horen al zo'n beeld bij de Islam dat ze alles wel geloven wat je ze verteld dat negatief is. Ben benieuwd naar het hele seizoen! [Big Grin] 

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What's wrong with this?
Fuck the quran

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Originally posted by 135.0:
Just kidding this is in the bible....
https://youtu.be/zEnWw_lH4tQ

That can't be true, but the media and my computer screen tells me that Muslims get 72 virgins if they kill the infidels?

This can't be true, media and my basement knowledge tells me ISIS are Muslims bro.

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Pretty much fuck the Quran:

The Quran:
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The verse prior to this (190) refers to "fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you" leading some to believe that the entire passage refers to a defensive war in which Muslims are defending their homes and families. The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, however, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). Verse 190 thus means to fight those who offer resistance to Allah's rule (ie. Muslim conquest). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is disingenuous (the actual Arabic words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The word used instead, "fitna", can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. This is certainly what is meant in this context since the violence is explicitly commissioned "until religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward." The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, who were led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. This is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home). Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward " This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is this Arabic word (mujahiduna) used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad, which would not make sense if it meant an internal struggle).

Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..." Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah" Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for 2:193). The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj. Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction. The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition. According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals."

Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."

Quran (8:67) - "It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land..."

Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars). This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack. Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months). The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat. Once the Muslims had power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.

Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people." Humiliating and hurting non-believers not only has the blessing of Allah, but it is ordered as a means of carrying out his punishment and even "healing" the hearts of Muslims.

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant." The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad". The context is obviously holy war.

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. Verse 9:33 tells Muslims that Allah has charted them to make Islam "superior over all religions." This chapter was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.

Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place." This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.

Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew." See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them" This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).

Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination." Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that unbelievers are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.

Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."

Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme." How does the Quran define a true believer?

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction." Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction." (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).

Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude." He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son. (Note: This is one reason why honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia. Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.1-2).)

Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"

Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..." "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context. It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.

Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter." This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers. It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do. If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations.

Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord... So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)... If it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost." Those who reject Allah are to be killed in Jihad. The wounded are to be held captive for ransom. The only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is to to test the faithfulness of Muslims. Those who kill pass the test.

Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you,"

Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom." Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.' Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted? This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.

Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves" Islam is not about treating everyone equally. This verse tells Muslims that there are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status. Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' to describe Hell in over 25 other verses including 65:10, 40:46 and 50:26..

Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way" Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to "battle array" meaning that it is speaking of physical conflict. This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist." (See next verse, below). Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought.

Quran (61:10-12) - "O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad ), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of 'Adn - Eternity ['Adn (Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success." This verse refers to physical battle in order to make Islam victorious over other religions (see above). It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.

Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end." The root word of "Jihad" is used again here. The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.

Other verses calling Muslims to Jihad can be found here at AnsweringIslam.org


From the Hadith:

Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

Bukhari (52:256) - The Prophet... was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." In this command, Muhammad establishes that it is permissible to kill non-combatants in the process of killing a perceived enemy. This provides justification for the many Islamic terror bombings.

Bukhari (52:65) - The Prophet said, 'He who fights that Allah's Word, Islam, should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause. Muhammad's words are the basis for offensive Jihad - spreading Islam by force. This is how it was understood by his companions, and by the terrorists of today.

Bukhari (52:220) - Allah's Apostle said... 'I have been made victorious with terror'

Abu Dawud (14:2526) - The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist)

Abu Dawud (14:2527) - The Prophet said: Striving in the path of Allah (jihad) is incumbent on you along with every ruler, whether he is pious or impious

Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah

Bukhari (8:387) - Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah'. And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally."

Muslim (1:30) - "The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah."

Bukhari (52:73) - "Allah's Apostle said, 'Know that Paradise is under the shades of swords'."

Bukhari (11:626) - [Muhammad said:] "I decided to order a man to lead the prayer and then take a flame to burn all those, who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes."

Muslim (1:149) - "Abu Dharr reported: I said: Messenger of Allah, which of the deeds is the best? He (the Holy Prophet) replied: Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause..."

Muslim (20:4645) - "...He (the Messenger of Allah) did that and said: There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth. He (Abu Sa'id) said: What is that act? He replied: Jihad in the way of Allah! Jihad in the way of Allah!"

Muslim (20:4696) - "the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: 'One who died but did not fight in the way of Allah nor did he express any desire (or determination) for Jihad died the death of a hypocrite.'"

Muslim (19:4321-4323) - Three separate hadith in which Muhammad shrugs over the news that innocent children were killed in a raid by his men against unbelievers. His response: "They are of them (meaning the enemy)."

Muslim (19:4294) - "When the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) appointed anyone as leader of an army or detachment he would especially exhort him... He would say: Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war... When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them... If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them."

Muslim (31:5917) - "Ali went a bit and then halted and did not look about and then said in a loud voice: 'Allah's Messenger, on what issue should I fight with the people?' Thereupon he (the Prophet) said: 'Fight with them until they bear testimony to the fact that there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his Messenger'." The pretext for attacking the peaceful farming community of Khaibar was not obvious to the Muslims. Muhammad's son-in-law Ali asked the prophet of Islam to clarify the reason for their mission to kill, loot and enslave. Muhammad's reply was straightforward. The people should be fought because they are not Muslim.

Muslim (31:5918) - "I will fight them until they are like us." Ali's reply to Muhammad, after receiving clarification that the pretext for attack Khaibar was to convert the people (see above verse).

Bukhari 1:35 "The person who participates in (Holy Battles) in Allah’s cause and nothing compels him do so except belief in Allah and His Apostle, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty ( if he survives) or will be admitted to Paradise ( if he is killed)."

Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, "Kill any Jew who falls under your power." Ashraf was a poet, killed by Muhammad's men because he insulted Islam. Here, Muhammad widens the scope of his orders to kill. An innocent Jewish businessman was then slain by his Muslim partner, merely for being non-Muslim.

Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us" The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.

Tabari 17:187 "'By God, our religion (din) from which we have departed is better and more correct than that which these people follow. Their religion does not stop them from shedding blood, terrifying the roads, and seizing properties.' And they returned to their former religion." The words of a group of Christians who had converted to Islam, but realized their error after being shocked by the violence and looting committed in the name of Allah. The price of their decision to return to a religion of peace was that the men were beheaded and the woman and children enslaved by the caliph Ali.

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 484: - “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 990: - Lest anyone think that cutting off someone's head while screaming 'Allah Akbar!' is a modern creation, here is an account of that very practice under Muhammad, who seems to approve.

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992: - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah." Muhammad's instructions to his men prior to a military raid.

Saifur Rahman, The Sealed Nectar p.227-228 - "Embrace Islam... If you two accept Islam, you will remain in command of your country; but if your refuse my Call, you’ve got to remember that all of your possessions are perishable. My horsemen will appropriate your land, and my Prophethood will assume preponderance over your kingship." One of several letters from Muhammad to rulers of other countries. The significance is that the recipients were not making war or threatening Muslims. Their subsequent defeat and subjugation by Muhammad's armies was justified merely on the basis of their unbelief.

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Originally posted by CoyoteMike:
Pretty much fuck the Quran:

The Quran:
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The verse prior to this (190) refers to "fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you" leading some to believe that the entire passage refers to a defensive war in which Muslims are defending their homes and families. The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, however, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). Verse 190 thus means to fight those who offer resistance to Allah's rule (ie. Muslim conquest). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is disingenuous (the actual Arabic words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The word used instead, "fitna", can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. This is certainly what is meant in this context since the violence is explicitly commissioned "until religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

I'll help you with the first one

Quran (2:191-193)

Explanation

If somebody is persecuting and fighting a group of people, they have a right to resist or fight back. That is a right recognized by all almost all systems of jurisprudence, and it should not be considered as a call for violence.

But fighting back by following strict rules in the Quran:

1. Don't harm children
2. Don't harm women
3. Don't harm animals
4. Don't harm elders
5. Don't harm trees
6. Do not hurt or kill anyone that is innocent.

All other verses can be easily misrepresented by the basement-educated keyboard political warriors.

#Islam #ReligionOfPeace

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Thats the problem - you say "don't kill the innocent"..... who is that?

Its definitely not us Infidels in the west.

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quote:
Originally posted by CoyoteMike:
Thats the problem - you say "don't kill the innocent"..... who is that?

Its definitely not us Infidels in the west.

Definitely not us (Infidels) in the West? Where did you learn this? Fox News? ISIS? CNN? Bush? Al-Quieda? Osama? Saddam? Online random articles without any clarification from real Muslims? In other words, media?

Here again, let me help you understand directly from the Quran:

Quran, Chapter 15, verse 2 & 3

"Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to God's will) in Islam. Leave them alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves: let (false) hope amuse them: soon will knowledge."

That's probably ONE of the dozen verses requesting believers to "LEAVE" the disbelievers in peace.

#Islam

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Originally posted by AL STOCK:
quote:
Originally posted by CoyoteMike:
Thats the problem - you say "don't kill the innocent"..... who is that?

Its definitely not us Infidels in the west.

Definitely not us (Infidels) in the West? Where did you learn this? Fox News? ISIS? CNN? Bush? Al-Quieda? Osama? Saddam? Online random articles without any clarification from real Muslims? In other words, media?

Here again, let me help you understand directly from the Quran:

Quran, Chapter 15, verse 2 & 3

"Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to God's will) in Islam. Leave them alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves: let (false) hope amuse them: soon will knowledge."

That's probably ONE of the dozen verses requesting believers to "LEAVE" the disbelievers in peace.

#Islam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDqnRqTVtCo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVKUKb3jd0E

So the whole book is contradictory? Kill the unbelievers, behead them, but be nice to them..... how bout that Sharia law? How about that piece of shit pedophile Muhammad?

Time to check what atrocities Islam has caused today...brb.

Aloha Snackbar

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List of Islamic Terror Attacks For the Past 30 Days

Date Country City Killed Injured Description
2015.12.05 Chad Koulfoua 27 80 Three female suicide bombers massacre twenty-seven patrons at a local market.
2015.12.04 Nigeria Sabon Gari 3 0 A Fedayeen suicide bomber murders three others.
2015.12.04 Yemen Sanaa 9 0 Nine Shiites are beheaded by the Islamic State.
2015.12.04 Iraq Ramadi 25 23 Five suicide car bombers take out over two dozen Iraqis.
2015.12.03 CAR Ngakobo 8 1 Eight civilians at a displaced persons camp are murdered by Muslim 'rebels'.
2015.12.03 Somalia Mogadishu 1 1 A female journalist is blown apart by an al-Shabaab car bomb.
2015.12.02 Syria Raqqa 1 0 A Russian hostage is beheaded by the Islamic State.
2015.12.02 Syria Ghouta 2 26 Two Assyrian women are disassembled by a Sunni mortar blast.
2015.12.02 Syria Raqqa 2 0 Two gay men are thrown from a rooftop by a Sharia court.
2015.12.02 USA San Bernardino, CA 14 17 A 'very religious' Muslim shoots up a Christmas party with his wife, leaving fourteen dead.
2015.12.02 Cameroon Waza 6 0 Two female suicide bombers slaughter six people.
2015.11.30 Iraq Baghdad 9 21 Nine Shiite pilgrims are sent straight to Allah by a Sunni suicide bomber.
2015.11.30 Pakistan Zaida 1 1 A physician specializing in immunization is shot to death by religious extremists.
2015.11.29 Nigeria Bam 4 0 Boko Haram roll into a village, kill four adults and kidnap several teenager girls to rape.
2015.11.29 Iraq Sinjar 100 0 One-hundred more victims of ISIS execution are discovered in a mass grave.
2015.11.29 DRC Eringeti 7 0 Seven civilians at a hospital are hacked to death by Islamic extremists.
2015.11.28 Mali Kidal 3 20 Jihadis fire a rocket at a UN facility, killing three people.
2015.11.28 Niger Fougou Boukar 4 2 Sharia proponents pour machine-gun fire into a village, killing four occupants.
2015.11.28 Cameroon Goudouzou 5 0 Islamists burn down homes and kill five people.
2015.11.28 Iraq Madain 2 5 Muslim terrorists kill two people with a well-placed bomb at a fishing village.
2015.11.28 Afghanistan Kabul 1 4 A suicide bomber takes out a passing driver.
2015.11.28 Egypt Saqqara 4 0 Four police at a security checkpoint are machine-gunned point-blank by fundamentalists on motorbikes.
2015.11.28 Iraq Sinjar 123 0 A mass grave is discovered containing one-hundred and twenty-three religious minorities executed by ISIS .
2015.11.28 Syria Damascus 1 30 Sunnis send a rocket into a Christian neighborhood, killing one resident.
2015.11.28 Cameroon Dabanga 5 12 Two female suicide bombers detonate in a small two, sending five innocents to their deaths.
2015.11.28 Iraq Tuz Khormato 7 17 A Shahid suicide bomber detonates at the entrance to a market, sending seven bystanders to their doom.
2015.11.28 Pakistan Ambar 2 0 Two peace volunteers are pulled into disparate parts by fundamentalist bombers.
2015.11.28 Pakistan Tursa 1 1 Islamic militants fire a rocket at a truck, killing the driver.
2015.11.27 Nigeria Dakasoye 22 45 A Sunni suicide bomber targets a Shiite procession and slaughters twenty-two pilgrims, including women and children.
2015.11.27 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A woman is forced to her knees and shot in the head by the Islamic State.
2015.11.27 Nigeria Gajiganna 3 0 Three villagers are murdered by Boko Haram Islamists.
2015.11.27 Iraq Jubba 17 0 Seventeen Iraqis are exterminated by a suicide truck bomber.
2015.11.26 Pakistan Narmikhel 2 3 An Islamist roadside bomb claims two lives.
2015.11.26 Pakistan Akram Khan Durrani 2 5 Islamists bombers pick off two local cops.
2015.11.26 Azerbaijan Baku 2 0 Two policeman are killed when members of the Movement for Muslim Unity open fire.
2015.11.26 Bangladesh Horipur 1 3 Five terrorists enter a Shiite mosque and open fire on worshippers, killing a 70-year-old man.
2015.11.25 Pakistan Sheikh Baba 1 2 Sunni fundamentalists murder a government official.
2015.11.25 Niger Wogom 18 11 Boko Haram members wade into a village, hacking and shooting eighteen residents to death.
2015.11.25 Iraq Hardan 9 4 An ISIS bomb blows nine Kurds into pieces.
2015.11.25 India Tanghdar 1 1 Jaish-e-Mohammad gunmen storm a camp and kill a civilian.
2015.11.25 Iraq Mosul 11 0 A woman is among eleven civilian employees executed by the Islamic State.
2015.11.24 Libya Mislattah 5 16 Islamist bombers kill five people at a checkpoint.
2015.11.24 Egypt al-Araish 7 17 Two bombings at a hotel, one a suicide attack, leave six others dead.
2015.11.24 Syria Turkman Mountains 1 0 A Russian hostage is executed by the Islamic State.
2015.11.24 Syria Raqqa 1 0 An Austrian teen bride is beaten to death for trying to leave the caliphate.
2015.11.24 Tunisia Tunis 15 16 Fifteen on a bus are reduced to pulp by a Religion of Peace bomb blast.
2015.11.24 Mali Goundam 1 0 A civilian is killed by a bomb planted by Islamic extremists.
2015.11.24 Afghanistan Ghor 1 0 A 19-year-old girl is publicly lashed to death by a cleric for disobeying her family.
2015.11.24 Pakistan Angoor Adda 7 3 Seven Pakistanis are killed when Taliban militants fire shells from across the border.
2015.11.23 Iraq Madain 2 8 Religion of Peace shrapnel liberates two souls from their bodies.
2015.11.23 Egypt Tamiyyah 1 0 A 26-year-old mother of two is murdered by her conservative uncle after leaving Islam for Christianity.
2015.11.23 Iraq Zab 10 0 Ten civilians are executed and hung from poles by caliphate members.
2015.11.23 Iraq Baghdad 2 6 A bomb near shops leaves a bloody mess and two dead.
2015.11.23 Iraq Fallujah 2 0 Two homosexuals are blindfolded and flung from a roof by a Sharia court.
2015.11.23 Israel Beit Horon 1 1 An 18-year-old Israel is stabbed to death by Arabs.
2015.11.22 Pakistan Warghara 5 0 Five policemen are blown to bits by the Tehreek-e-Taliban.
2015.11.22 Israel Etzion 1 0 A young Israeli woman is brutally stabbed to death by Palestinians.
2015.11.22 Nigeria Maiduguri 8 7 A female suicide bomber exterminates eight people at a displaced persons camp.
2015.11.22 Iraq Baghdad 2 8 Two patrons at a restaurant are cut down in mid-bite by Mujahideen bombers.
2015.11.22 Afghanistan Kohat 1 0 A TV journalist is murdered by suspected Taliban.
2015.11.21 Cameroon Leymarie 5 15 Five civilians are laid out by three female suicide bombers outside their residence.
2015.11.21 Pakistan Karachi 4 5 Terrorists shoot four people to death.
2015.11.21 Iraq Sinjar 9 0 Nine people are killed when an ISIS bomb detonates at a house.
2015.11.20 Pakistan Ittehad 4 0 Hardline gunmen pick off four guards outside a rival mosque during Friday prayers.
2015.11.20 Pakistan Charssada 2 0 Two traffic cops are shot in the head by Islamic extremists.
2015.11.20 Iraq Baghdad 10 28 Ten worshippers at a Shiite mosque are sent straight to Allah by a Sunni suicide bomber.
2015.11.20 Mali Bamako 27 6 Gunmen yelling 'Allah Akbar' storm a hotel and kill or capture dozens of people who are unable to recite Quran verses.
2015.11.20 Iraq Yousifiya 2 9 Two worshippers are killed when radicals place a bomb outside a rival mosque.
2015.11.20 Pakistan Lahore 1 0 A woman is shot to death for 'not having good character.'
2015.11.20 Iraq Makhmour 7 0 Seven Kurds are killed during an attack by the Islamic State.
2015.11.20 Yemen Shibam 19 24 An al-Qaeda suicide attack leaves at leaves nineteen others dead.
2015.11.19 Afghanistan Arghandab 1 6 Islamic radicals stage a suicide attack on a police station.
2015.11.19 Israel Gush Etzion 3 4 An American teenager is among three people cut down by an Arab drive-by shooter.
2015.11.19 Israel Tel Aviv 2 3 Two worshippers at a synagogue are stabbed to death by a Muslim terrorist.
2015.11.18 Bangladesh Dinajpur 0 1 An Italian priest is stabbed by Islamists.
2015.11.18 Syria Raqqa 2 0 A Norwegian and a Chinese hostage are executed by the Islamic State after being captured.
2015.11.18 Nigeria Kano 15 123 Fifteen patrons at a mobile phone market are sent to the afterlife by two child suicide bombers, including an 11-year-old girl.
2015.11.18 France Marseille 0 1 A Jewish teacher is stabbed by 'radicalized' Muslims.
2015.11.18 Saudi Arabia al-Qatif 2 0 Two local cops are shot to death by suspected Shiite extremists.
2015.11.18 Bosnia Sarajevo 2 1 An 'ultra-conservative' Salafi fires an automatic weapon into a gambling shop, killing two guards.
2015.11.18 Afghanistan Ghazni 2 0 The Taliban take out two brothers with a planted explosive.
2015.11.18 Iraq Mahmoudiya 2 6 Jihadis set off a bomb at a popular market, killing two patrons.
2015.11.17 Nigeria Yola 34 80 Islamists bomb a fruit and vegetable market, obliterating thirty-four patrons.
2015.11.17 Iraq Tuz Khurmatu 1 0 A Kurdish doctor on his way to work is ambushed and killed by Shiite radicals.
2015.11.17 Philippines Jolo 1 0 A businessman is beheaded by Abu Sayyaf.
2015.11.17 Iraq Taji 2 8 Mujahideen kill two people with a planted bomb.
2015.11.16 Iraq Baghdad 2 8 Radicals set off a bomb outside a car parts shop, killing two passersby.
2015.11.16 Iraq Nineveh 45 0 Media figures are among forty-five civilians pulled from their homes and executed by the Islamic State.
2015.11.16 Yemen Mocha 44 0 Forty-four Yemenis near a port are killed during a brutal ambush by Shiite rebels.
2015.11.15 Pakistan Gulshan-e-Iqbal 2 0 Two Shia guards outside a minority religion complex are picked off in a targeted shooting by Sunnis.
2015.11.15 Turkey Gaziantep 0 5 An ISIS suicide bomber injures five policemen.
2015.11.15 Iraq Ameriyat al-Fallujah 3 5 Three Iraqis are dismantled by an ISIS rocket.
2015.11.15 Afghanistan Lashkar Gah 1 12 A Shahid suicide bomber detonates along a city street.
2015.11.15 Iraq Sinjar 70 0 Two more mass graves are unearthed with the bodies of seventy Yazidi minority victims of ISIS execution.
2015.11.15 Iraq Baghdad 7 15 Seven people are killed by a series of Mujahideen bombings.
2015.11.15 Iraq Tuz Khormato 1 0 Shiite militia murder a 14-year-old Kurd.
2015.11.15 Syria Jamleh 7 0 An al-Qaeda suicide bomber takes out seven members of a rival group.
2015.11.14 Iraq Tal Afar 20 0 Twenty Kurds are executed by the Islamic State.
2015.11.14 Somalia Kismayo 15 25 At least fifteen are left dead after a surprise attack by al-Shabaab.
2015.11.14 Pakistan Coleman 2 0 Two police officers are shot to death by the Tehreek-e-Taliban.
2015.11.14 Iraq Sinjar 78 0 A mass grave is unearthed, containing seventy-eight elderly female victims of ISIS execution.
2015.11.14 Iraq Mosul 1 0 The head of a university physics department is executed by ISIS.
2015.11.14 Yemen Mahwit 1 0 One other person is killed when a suicide bomber explodes prematurely outside a mosque.
2015.11.14 Iraq Mandali 1 1 A Shahid suicide car bomber kills a bystander.
2015.11.13 France Paris 19 9 Islamic terrorists pile up nineteen bodies at a restaurant (Belle Equipe).
2015.11.13 Israel Otniel 2 5 A Jewish father and son are murdered by Palestinians as they are on their way to a wedding event.
2015.11.13 Iraq Sadr City 5 15 Sunnis set off a bomb near a Shiite shrine, killing five passersby.
2015.11.13 Iraq Baghdad 21 46 A suicide bomber strikes a Shia funeral, laying out twenty-one mourners.
2015.11.13 Tunisia Sawar Soultaniya 1 0 Islamists behead a 16-year-old shepherd and send the head back to his family.
2015.11.13 Yemen Shibam 3 14 At least three people are left dead after terrorists bomb a rival mosque.
2015.11.13 France Paris 1 0 Islamic terrorists eliminate a passerby with two suicide blasts outside a soccer stadium (Stade de France) and a nearby McDonalds's.
2015.11.13 France Paris 15 10 Islamic terrorists massacre fifteen innocents at two restaurants (Le Carillon and Le Petit Cambodge).
2015.11.13 France Paris 5 8 Islamic terrorists shoot up a bar and pizzeria, killing five patrons (La Bonne Biere, Casa Nostra).
2015.11.13 France Paris 0 3 Islamic terrorists stage a suicide bombing outside a cafe Comptoir Voltaire).
2015.11.13 France Paris 89 322 Islamic terrorists open fire and throw bombs during a concert at a music hall, slaughtering nearly ninety innocents while shouting 'Allah Akbar' (Bataclan).
2015.11.12 Thailand Pattani 4 4 Four Thais are exterminated by Jihadi bombers.
2015.11.12 Lebanon Beirut 43 240 Two Sunni suicide bombers massacre over forty people in a Shiite residential neighborhood.
2015.11.12 Jordan Irbid 2 0 In the name of honor, a man beheads his sister and stabs her 15-year-old son.
2015.11.12 CAR Bandambou 6 0 Six hunters are shot to death by suspected Seleka militants.
2015.11.12 Syria al-Heisha 4 0 A boy, his grandfather and two farmers reduced to pulp by an ISIS missile.
2015.11.12 Italy Milan 0 1 A Haredi Jew is stabbed nine times by a masked Muslim.
2015.11.11 Iraq Baiji 13 0 Thirteen members of two families are crushed to death in their own homes by ISIS explosives.
2015.11.11 Iraq Ekreshat 22 0 Twenty-two civil servants are marched out to a field and executed by the Islamic State.
2015.11.11 Iraq Tarmiya 2 4 Two people are killed when Jihadis bomb a market.
2015.11.11 Egypt Harhor 8 1 A child is among eight family members slaughtered in their home by fundamentalist militants.
2015.11.11 Niger Bossa 5 0 At least five civilians are killed when Boko Haram attack a village.
2015.11.10 Iraq Shaab 2 7 A Sunni bomb rips through a parking lot, killing two.
2015.11.10 Afghanistan Khak-i-Afghan 2 0 At least two others are killed by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2015.11.10 Syria Latakia 23 65 Sunnis send rockets into an area near a university, sending sixty-five to the hospital and twenty-three to the morgue.
2015.11.10 Iraq Baghdad 3 8 A blast at an outdoor market leaves three dead.
2015.11.10 Iraq Dora 2 0 Two merchants are shot to death by Islamists.
2015.11.10 India Madikeri 1 20 A farmer's skull is crushed from a rock thrown by angry Muslims during a an anti-Hindu riot.
2015.11.10 Yemen Sanaa 1 0 An American contractor dies in custody after being kidnapped by Shiite militia.
2015.11.10 Iraq Hussainiyah 4 7 Terrorists set off a bomb in a residential neighborhood, killing four.
2015.11.10 Pakistan Guddu 2 0 Islamic terrorists sneak up on a police post and machine-gun two officers.
2015.11.09 Israel Hilhul Junction 1 6 Six Israelis are stabbed or run over by Palestinians. A victim also dies of wounds suffered in an earlier attack.
2015.11.09 Cameroon Fotokol 3 20 At least three others are killed when female suicide bombers attack a rival mosque.
2015.11.09 Iraq Mosul 3 0 Three young people are executed by the Islamic State.
2015.11.09 CAR Ndassima 10 8 Muslim militia cut the throats of ten Christian villagers.
2015.11.09 Pakistan Karachi 1 3 One person is cut down by sectarian Jihadis.
2015.11.09 Jordan Amman 5 4 Two Americans and a South African are gunned down along with two locals by an Islamic extremist in uniform.
2015.11.08 Chad Ngouboua 3 12 Two female suicide bombers murder three refugees at a fishing village.
2015.11.08 Afghanistan Rasani 7 0 Two women and a child are among seven civilians kidnapped and beheaded by ISIS.
2015.11.08 Syria Aleppo 4 3 A child is among four civilians cut down by a Sunni rocket.
2015.11.08 Iraq Sadr City 7 20 A double suicide bombing at a Shiite market lays out seven patrons.
2015.11.08 Iraq Baghdad 2 8 A bomb at a popular market produces a bloody mess and two dead bodies.
2015.11.08 Yemen Sanaa 16 6 Shiite militants are thought responsible for a brutal bombing that killed sixteen government troops at their barracks.
2015.11.07 Pakistan Quetta 2 0 Two Hazara religious minorities are sprayed with bullets by Ahle Sunnat wal Jamaat members.
2015.11.07 Iraq Baghdad 3 15 Two Jihad bombings leave three dead.
2015.11.07 Iraq Tarmiya 6 0 A suicide bomber claims six other lives.
2015.11.07 Iraq Albu Haiyat 5 12 Roadside bombs take care of five Iraqis, with a dozen surviving.
2015.11.06 Pakistan Quetta 1 1 A Shiite is gunned down by Sunni radicals.
2015.11.06 Iraq Yusufiya 1 2 Jihadi bombers take out a woman and injure her two children.
2015.11.06 Libya Ajdabiya 1 0 A Salafi cleric is shot to death by Religion of Peace rivals.
2015.11.06 Iraq Maidan 2 5 Two people at a meat market are butchered by ISIS bombers.
2015.11.06 Iraq Baghdad 3 9 Bombers target a residential area, killing three unfortunates.
2015.11.06 Afghanistan Shamir 1 0 Religion of Peace activists kill a rival cleric with a car bomb.
2015.11.05 Lebanon Arsal 5 15 Five Muslim scholars are taken out by a suicide blast from a Religion of Peace rival.
2015.11.05 Iraq Baghdad 2 6 A bomb placed on a bus kills two passengers.

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"That's probably ONE of the dozen verses requesting believers to "LEAVE" the disbelievers in peace." --How's THAT Working out for us so far?...-- [BS flag]
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dont listen to these people who say islam is a religion of peace.

Taqiyya ("al Taqiyya") is the Muslims' license to lie to infidels in order to camouflage Islam's holy war strategy (jihad) to conquer the world. The strategy mentioned
through orders and solicitations in the Quran 3:28 and other Islamic writings and reference applies to all Western countries and against all infidels people (non-muslims) who is not
Islamic and therefore seen as a constant threat to Islam.

Quran 3:28 or Quran 3:28 are two different translations of the Quran verse and says exactly the same in summary:

"Let not the believers (muslims) take the unbelievers for friends, or their companions instead for the believers (muslims): if someone does, then you have no contact with Allah [They
does not represent islam anymore and can be killed ]: unless muslims take precautions, and plays fake (Guard yourselves from them) [Which means that muslims say that they are unbelievers (non-muslim's) best friends when in fact they hate them ].

One of the so-called largest Islamic commentators and historians of all "Ibn Kathir"commented the above sura (chapter) 3 and verse 28 of the Quran and said that "muslims are allowed to show friendship outwardly, but never inwardly)." . Another renowned scholar among muslims, "Al-Bukhari" commented by saying that "We[muslims] smile in the face of some people[non-muslims] although our hearts curse them".

You can check it yourself in the tafsir explanation of the Quran among others at about line or paragraph number 8 here:
http://abdurrahman.org/qurantafseer/ibnkathir/ibnkathir_web/3.8052.html
or here:
http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=550&Itemid=888

The Quran that Muhammad dictated clearly states in many places that Allah is the greatest cheater, scamer, illusionist and liar among them all. From The Quran 8:17, we get
confirmed that Allah is all muslims since Islam and the Quran requires that all muslims in reality are obliged to emulate Muhammad since he created Allah and because 90% of the Quran is about Muhammad and only 10% of Allah. It is therefore easy to understand why muslims cultivates what's in the Koran. Muhammad = Allah = muslims. Which gives us the explanation of why all muslims support the lies, deception, illusion, terror, murder of people, threats, slavery and oppression to take over the world and exterminate all other belief systems. 1400 years of Islamic barbaric war history shows the same.

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Thats the problem - you say "don't kill the innocent"..... who is that?

Its definitely not us Infidels in the west.

Definitely not us (Infidels) in the West? Where did you learn this? Fox News? ISIS? CNN? Bush? Al-Quieda? Osama? Saddam? Online random articles without any clarification from real Muslims? In other words, media?

Here again, let me help you understand directly from the Quran:

Quran, Chapter 15, verse 2 & 3

"Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to God's will) in Islam. Leave them alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves: let (false) hope amuse them: soon will knowledge."

That's probably ONE of the dozen verses requesting believers to "LEAVE" the disbelievers in peace.

#Islam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDqnRqTVtCo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVKUKb3jd0E

So the whole book is contradictory? Kill the unbelievers, behead them, but be nice to them..... how bout that Sharia law? How about that piece of shit pedophile Muhammad?

Time to check what atrocities Islam has caused today...brb.

Aloha Snackbar

dobt know what "book" you read.

Islam is against killing innocent as I've stated.


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List of Islamic Terror Attacks For the Past 30 Days

Date Country City Killed Injured Description
2015.12.05 Chad Koulfoua 27 80 Three female suicide bombers massacre twenty-seven patrons at a local market.
2015.12.04 Nigeria Sabon Gari 3 0 A Fedayeen suicide bomber murders three others.
2015.12.04 Yemen Sanaa 9 0 Nine Shiites are beheaded by the Islamic State.
2015.12.04 Iraq Ramadi 25 23 Five suicide car bombers take out over two dozen Iraqis.
2015.12.03 CAR Ngakobo 8 1 Eight civilians at a displaced persons camp are murdered by Muslim 'rebels'.
2015.12.03 Somalia Mogadishu 1 1 A female journalist is blown apart by an al-Shabaab car bomb.
2015.12.02 Syria Raqqa 1 0 A Russian hostage is beheaded by the Islamic State.
2015.12.02 Syria Ghouta 2 26 Two Assyrian women are disassembled by a Sunni mortar blast.
2015.12.02 Syria Raqqa 2 0 Two gay men are thrown from a rooftop by a Sharia court.
2015.12.02 USA San Bernardino, CA 14 17 A 'very religious' Muslim shoots up a Christmas party with his wife, leaving fourteen dead.
2015.12.02 Cameroon Waza 6 0 Two female suicide bombers slaughter six people.
2015.11.30 Iraq Baghdad 9 21 Nine Shiite pilgrims are sent straight to Allah by a Sunni suicide bomber.
2015.11.30 Pakistan Zaida 1 1 A physician specializing in immunization is shot to death by religious extremists.
2015.11.29 Nigeria Bam 4 0 Boko Haram roll into a village, kill four adults and kidnap several teenager girls to rape.
2015.11.29 Iraq Sinjar 100 0 One-hundred more victims of ISIS execution are discovered in a mass grave.
2015.11.29 DRC Eringeti 7 0 Seven civilians at a hospital are hacked to death by Islamic extremists.
2015.11.28 Mali Kidal 3 20 Jihadis fire a rocket at a UN facility, killing three people.
2015.11.28 Niger Fougou Boukar 4 2 Sharia proponents pour machine-gun fire into a village, killing four occupants.
2015.11.28 Cameroon Goudouzou 5 0 Islamists burn down homes and kill five people.
2015.11.28 Iraq Madain 2 5 Muslim terrorists kill two people with a well-placed bomb at a fishing village.
2015.11.28 Afghanistan Kabul 1 4 A suicide bomber takes out a passing driver.
2015.11.28 Egypt Saqqara 4 0 Four police at a security checkpoint are machine-gunned point-blank by fundamentalists on motorbikes.
2015.11.28 Iraq Sinjar 123 0 A mass grave is discovered containing one-hundred and twenty-three religious minorities executed by ISIS .
2015.11.28 Syria Damascus 1 30 Sunnis send a rocket into a Christian neighborhood, killing one resident.
2015.11.28 Cameroon Dabanga 5 12 Two female suicide bombers detonate in a small two, sending five innocents to their deaths.
2015.11.28 Iraq Tuz Khormato 7 17 A Shahid suicide bomber detonates at the entrance to a market, sending seven bystanders to their doom.
2015.11.28 Pakistan Ambar 2 0 Two peace volunteers are pulled into disparate parts by fundamentalist bombers.
2015.11.28 Pakistan Tursa 1 1 Islamic militants fire a rocket at a truck, killing the driver.
2015.11.27 Nigeria Dakasoye 22 45 A Sunni suicide bomber targets a Shiite procession and slaughters twenty-two pilgrims, including women and children.
2015.11.27 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A woman is forced to her knees and shot in the head by the Islamic State.
2015.11.27 Nigeria Gajiganna 3 0 Three villagers are murdered by Boko Haram Islamists.
2015.11.27 Iraq Jubba 17 0 Seventeen Iraqis are exterminated by a suicide truck bomber.
2015.11.26 Pakistan Narmikhel 2 3 An Islamist roadside bomb claims two lives.
2015.11.26 Pakistan Akram Khan Durrani 2 5 Islamists bombers pick off two local cops.
2015.11.26 Azerbaijan Baku 2 0 Two policeman are killed when members of the Movement for Muslim Unity open fire.
2015.11.26 Bangladesh Horipur 1 3 Five terrorists enter a Shiite mosque and open fire on worshippers, killing a 70-year-old man.
2015.11.25 Pakistan Sheikh Baba 1 2 Sunni fundamentalists murder a government official.
2015.11.25 Niger Wogom 18 11 Boko Haram members wade into a village, hacking and shooting eighteen residents to death.
2015.11.25 Iraq Hardan 9 4 An ISIS bomb blows nine Kurds into pieces.
2015.11.25 India Tanghdar 1 1 Jaish-e-Mohammad gunmen storm a camp and kill a civilian.
2015.11.25 Iraq Mosul 11 0 A woman is among eleven civilian employees executed by the Islamic State.
2015.11.24 Libya Mislattah 5 16 Islamist bombers kill five people at a checkpoint.
2015.11.24 Egypt al-Araish 7 17 Two bombings at a hotel, one a suicide attack, leave six others dead.
2015.11.24 Syria Turkman Mountains 1 0 A Russian hostage is executed by the Islamic State.
2015.11.24 Syria Raqqa 1 0 An Austrian teen bride is beaten to death for trying to leave the caliphate.
2015.11.24 Tunisia Tunis 15 16 Fifteen on a bus are reduced to pulp by a Religion of Peace bomb blast.
2015.11.24 Mali Goundam 1 0 A civilian is killed by a bomb planted by Islamic extremists.
2015.11.24 Afghanistan Ghor 1 0 A 19-year-old girl is publicly lashed to death by a cleric for disobeying her family.
2015.11.24 Pakistan Angoor Adda 7 3 Seven Pakistanis are killed when Taliban militants fire shells from across the border.
2015.11.23 Iraq Madain 2 8 Religion of Peace shrapnel liberates two souls from their bodies.
2015.11.23 Egypt Tamiyyah 1 0 A 26-year-old mother of two is murdered by her conservative uncle after leaving Islam for Christianity.
2015.11.23 Iraq Zab 10 0 Ten civilians are executed and hung from poles by caliphate members.
2015.11.23 Iraq Baghdad 2 6 A bomb near shops leaves a bloody mess and two dead.
2015.11.23 Iraq Fallujah 2 0 Two homosexuals are blindfolded and flung from a roof by a Sharia court.
2015.11.23 Israel Beit Horon 1 1 An 18-year-old Israel is stabbed to death by Arabs.
2015.11.22 Pakistan Warghara 5 0 Five policemen are blown to bits by the Tehreek-e-Taliban.
2015.11.22 Israel Etzion 1 0 A young Israeli woman is brutally stabbed to death by Palestinians.
2015.11.22 Nigeria Maiduguri 8 7 A female suicide bomber exterminates eight people at a displaced persons camp.
2015.11.22 Iraq Baghdad 2 8 Two patrons at a restaurant are cut down in mid-bite by Mujahideen bombers.
2015.11.22 Afghanistan Kohat 1 0 A TV journalist is murdered by suspected Taliban.
2015.11.21 Cameroon Leymarie 5 15 Five civilians are laid out by three female suicide bombers outside their residence.
2015.11.21 Pakistan Karachi 4 5 Terrorists shoot four people to death.
2015.11.21 Iraq Sinjar 9 0 Nine people are killed when an ISIS bomb detonates at a house.
2015.11.20 Pakistan Ittehad 4 0 Hardline gunmen pick off four guards outside a rival mosque during Friday prayers.
2015.11.20 Pakistan Charssada 2 0 Two traffic cops are shot in the head by Islamic extremists.
2015.11.20 Iraq Baghdad 10 28 Ten worshippers at a Shiite mosque are sent straight to Allah by a Sunni suicide bomber.
2015.11.20 Mali Bamako 27 6 Gunmen yelling 'Allah Akbar' storm a hotel and kill or capture dozens of people who are unable to recite Quran verses.
2015.11.20 Iraq Yousifiya 2 9 Two worshippers are killed when radicals place a bomb outside a rival mosque.
2015.11.20 Pakistan Lahore 1 0 A woman is shot to death for 'not having good character.'
2015.11.20 Iraq Makhmour 7 0 Seven Kurds are killed during an attack by the Islamic State.
2015.11.20 Yemen Shibam 19 24 An al-Qaeda suicide attack leaves at leaves nineteen others dead.
2015.11.19 Afghanistan Arghandab 1 6 Islamic radicals stage a suicide attack on a police station.
2015.11.19 Israel Gush Etzion 3 4 An American teenager is among three people cut down by an Arab drive-by shooter.
2015.11.19 Israel Tel Aviv 2 3 Two worshippers at a synagogue are stabbed to death by a Muslim terrorist.
2015.11.18 Bangladesh Dinajpur 0 1 An Italian priest is stabbed by Islamists.
2015.11.18 Syria Raqqa 2 0 A Norwegian and a Chinese hostage are executed by the Islamic State after being captured.
2015.11.18 Nigeria Kano 15 123 Fifteen patrons at a mobile phone market are sent to the afterlife by two child suicide bombers, including an 11-year-old girl.
2015.11.18 France Marseille 0 1 A Jewish teacher is stabbed by 'radicalized' Muslims.
2015.11.18 Saudi Arabia al-Qatif 2 0 Two local cops are shot to death by suspected Shiite extremists.
2015.11.18 Bosnia Sarajevo 2 1 An 'ultra-conservative' Salafi fires an automatic weapon into a gambling shop, killing two guards.
2015.11.18 Afghanistan Ghazni 2 0 The Taliban take out two brothers with a planted explosive.
2015.11.18 Iraq Mahmoudiya 2 6 Jihadis set off a bomb at a popular market, killing two patrons.
2015.11.17 Nigeria Yola 34 80 Islamists bomb a fruit and vegetable market, obliterating thirty-four patrons.
2015.11.17 Iraq Tuz Khurmatu 1 0 A Kurdish doctor on his way to work is ambushed and killed by Shiite radicals.
2015.11.17 Philippines Jolo 1 0 A businessman is beheaded by Abu Sayyaf.
2015.11.17 Iraq Taji 2 8 Mujahideen kill two people with a planted bomb.
2015.11.16 Iraq Baghdad 2 8 Radicals set off a bomb outside a car parts shop, killing two passersby.
2015.11.16 Iraq Nineveh 45 0 Media figures are among forty-five civilians pulled from their homes and executed by the Islamic State.
2015.11.16 Yemen Mocha 44 0 Forty-four Yemenis near a port are killed during a brutal ambush by Shiite rebels.
2015.11.15 Pakistan Gulshan-e-Iqbal 2 0 Two Shia guards outside a minority religion complex are picked off in a targeted shooting by Sunnis.
2015.11.15 Turkey Gaziantep 0 5 An ISIS suicide bomber injures five policemen.
2015.11.15 Iraq Ameriyat al-Fallujah 3 5 Three Iraqis are dismantled by an ISIS rocket.
2015.11.15 Afghanistan Lashkar Gah 1 12 A Shahid suicide bomber detonates along a city street.
2015.11.15 Iraq Sinjar 70 0 Two more mass graves are unearthed with the bodies of seventy Yazidi minority victims of ISIS execution.
2015.11.15 Iraq Baghdad 7 15 Seven people are killed by a series of Mujahideen bombings.
2015.11.15 Iraq Tuz Khormato 1 0 Shiite militia murder a 14-year-old Kurd.
2015.11.15 Syria Jamleh 7 0 An al-Qaeda suicide bomber takes out seven members of a rival group.
2015.11.14 Iraq Tal Afar 20 0 Twenty Kurds are executed by the Islamic State.
2015.11.14 Somalia Kismayo 15 25 At least fifteen are left dead after a surprise attack by al-Shabaab.
2015.11.14 Pakistan Coleman 2 0 Two police officers are shot to death by the Tehreek-e-Taliban.
2015.11.14 Iraq Sinjar 78 0 A mass grave is unearthed, containing seventy-eight elderly female victims of ISIS execution.
2015.11.14 Iraq Mosul 1 0 The head of a university physics department is executed by ISIS.
2015.11.14 Yemen Mahwit 1 0 One other person is killed when a suicide bomber explodes prematurely outside a mosque.
2015.11.14 Iraq Mandali 1 1 A Shahid suicide car bomber kills a bystander.
2015.11.13 France Paris 19 9 Islamic terrorists pile up nineteen bodies at a restaurant (Belle Equipe).
2015.11.13 Israel Otniel 2 5 A Jewish father and son are murdered by Palestinians as they are on their way to a wedding event.
2015.11.13 Iraq Sadr City 5 15 Sunnis set off a bomb near a Shiite shrine, killing five passersby.
2015.11.13 Iraq Baghdad 21 46 A suicide bomber strikes a Shia funeral, laying out twenty-one mourners.
2015.11.13 Tunisia Sawar Soultaniya 1 0 Islamists behead a 16-year-old shepherd and send the head back to his family.
2015.11.13 Yemen Shibam 3 14 At least three people are left dead after terrorists bomb a rival mosque.
2015.11.13 France Paris 1 0 Islamic terrorists eliminate a passerby with two suicide blasts outside a soccer stadium (Stade de France) and a nearby McDonalds's.
2015.11.13 France Paris 15 10 Islamic terrorists massacre fifteen innocents at two restaurants (Le Carillon and Le Petit Cambodge).
2015.11.13 France Paris 5 8 Islamic terrorists shoot up a bar and pizzeria, killing five patrons (La Bonne Biere, Casa Nostra).
2015.11.13 France Paris 0 3 Islamic terrorists stage a suicide bombing outside a cafe Comptoir Voltaire).
2015.11.13 France Paris 89 322 Islamic terrorists open fire and throw bombs during a concert at a music hall, slaughtering nearly ninety innocents while shouting 'Allah Akbar' (Bataclan).
2015.11.12 Thailand Pattani 4 4 Four Thais are exterminated by Jihadi bombers.
2015.11.12 Lebanon Beirut 43 240 Two Sunni suicide bombers massacre over forty people in a Shiite residential neighborhood.
2015.11.12 Jordan Irbid 2 0 In the name of honor, a man beheads his sister and stabs her 15-year-old son.
2015.11.12 CAR Bandambou 6 0 Six hunters are shot to death by suspected Seleka militants.
2015.11.12 Syria al-Heisha 4 0 A boy, his grandfather and two farmers reduced to pulp by an ISIS missile.
2015.11.12 Italy Milan 0 1 A Haredi Jew is stabbed nine times by a masked Muslim.
2015.11.11 Iraq Baiji 13 0 Thirteen members of two families are crushed to death in their own homes by ISIS explosives.
2015.11.11 Iraq Ekreshat 22 0 Twenty-two civil servants are marched out to a field and executed by the Islamic State.
2015.11.11 Iraq Tarmiya 2 4 Two people are killed when Jihadis bomb a market.
2015.11.11 Egypt Harhor 8 1 A child is among eight family members slaughtered in their home by fundamentalist militants.
2015.11.11 Niger Bossa 5 0 At least five civilians are killed when Boko Haram attack a village.
2015.11.10 Iraq Shaab 2 7 A Sunni bomb rips through a parking lot, killing two.
2015.11.10 Afghanistan Khak-i-Afghan 2 0 At least two others are killed by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2015.11.10 Syria Latakia 23 65 Sunnis send rockets into an area near a university, sending sixty-five to the hospital and twenty-three to the morgue.
2015.11.10 Iraq Baghdad 3 8 A blast at an outdoor market leaves three dead.
2015.11.10 Iraq Dora 2 0 Two merchants are shot to death by Islamists.
2015.11.10 India Madikeri 1 20 A farmer's skull is crushed from a rock thrown by angry Muslims during a an anti-Hindu riot.
2015.11.10 Yemen Sanaa 1 0 An American contractor dies in custody after being kidnapped by Shiite militia.
2015.11.10 Iraq Hussainiyah 4 7 Terrorists set off a bomb in a residential neighborhood, killing four.
2015.11.10 Pakistan Guddu 2 0 Islamic terrorists sneak up on a police post and machine-gun two officers.
2015.11.09 Israel Hilhul Junction 1 6 Six Israelis are stabbed or run over by Palestinians. A victim also dies of wounds suffered in an earlier attack.
2015.11.09 Cameroon Fotokol 3 20 At least three others are killed when female suicide bombers attack a rival mosque.
2015.11.09 Iraq Mosul 3 0 Three young people are executed by the Islamic State.
2015.11.09 CAR Ndassima 10 8 Muslim militia cut the throats of ten Christian villagers.
2015.11.09 Pakistan Karachi 1 3 One person is cut down by sectarian Jihadis.
2015.11.09 Jordan Amman 5 4 Two Americans and a South African are gunned down along with two locals by an Islamic extremist in uniform.
2015.11.08 Chad Ngouboua 3 12 Two female suicide bombers murder three refugees at a fishing village.
2015.11.08 Afghanistan Rasani 7 0 Two women and a child are among seven civilians kidnapped and beheaded by ISIS.
2015.11.08 Syria Aleppo 4 3 A child is among four civilians cut down by a Sunni rocket.
2015.11.08 Iraq Sadr City 7 20 A double suicide bombing at a Shiite market lays out seven patrons.
2015.11.08 Iraq Baghdad 2 8 A bomb at a popular market produces a bloody mess and two dead bodies.
2015.11.08 Yemen Sanaa 16 6 Shiite militants are thought responsible for a brutal bombing that killed sixteen government troops at their barracks.
2015.11.07 Pakistan Quetta 2 0 Two Hazara religious minorities are sprayed with bullets by Ahle Sunnat wal Jamaat members.
2015.11.07 Iraq Baghdad 3 15 Two Jihad bombings leave three dead.
2015.11.07 Iraq Tarmiya 6 0 A suicide bomber claims six other lives.
2015.11.07 Iraq Albu Haiyat 5 12 Roadside bombs take care of five Iraqis, with a dozen surviving.
2015.11.06 Pakistan Quetta 1 1 A Shiite is gunned down by Sunni radicals.
2015.11.06 Iraq Yusufiya 1 2 Jihadi bombers take out a woman and injure her two children.
2015.11.06 Libya Ajdabiya 1 0 A Salafi cleric is shot to death by Religion of Peace rivals.
2015.11.06 Iraq Maidan 2 5 Two people at a meat market are butchered by ISIS bombers.
2015.11.06 Iraq Baghdad 3 9 Bombers target a residential area, killing three unfortunates.
2015.11.06 Afghanistan Shamir 1 0 Religion of Peace activists kill a rival cleric with a car bomb.
2015.11.05 Lebanon Arsal 5 15 Five Muslim scholars are taken out by a suicide blast from a Religion of Peace rival.
2015.11.05 Iraq Baghdad 2 6 A bomb placed on a bus kills two passengers.

Those are uneducated brainwashed dumbasses killing each other. They aren't Muslims nor follow Islam.

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dont listen to these people who say islam is a religion of peace.

Taqiyya ("al Taqiyya") is the Muslims' license to lie to infidels in order to camouflage Islam's holy war strategy (jihad) to conquer the world. The strategy mentioned
through orders and solicitations in the Quran 3:28 and other Islamic writings and reference applies to all Western countries and against all infidels people (non-muslims) who is not
Islamic and therefore seen as a constant threat to Islam.

Quran 3:28 or Quran 3:28 are two different translations of the Quran verse and says exactly the same in summary:

"Let not the believers (muslims) take the unbelievers for friends, or their companions instead for the believers (muslims): if someone does, then you have no contact with Allah [They
does not represent islam anymore and can be killed ]: unless muslims take precautions, and plays fake (Guard yourselves from them) [Which means that muslims say that they are unbelievers (non-muslim's) best friends when in fact they hate them ].

One of the so-called largest Islamic commentators and historians of all "Ibn Kathir"commented the above sura (chapter) 3 and verse 28 of the Quran and said that "muslims are allowed to show friendship outwardly, but never inwardly)." . Another renowned scholar among muslims, "Al-Bukhari" commented by saying that "We[muslims] smile in the face of some people[non-muslims] although our hearts curse them".

You can check it yourself in the tafsir explanation of the Quran among others at about line or paragraph number 8 here:
http://abdurrahman.org/qurantafseer/ibnkathir/ibnkathir_web/3.8052.html
or here:
http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=550&Itemid=888

The Quran that Muhammad dictated clearly states in many places that Allah is the greatest cheater, scamer, illusionist and liar among them all. From The Quran 8:17, we get
confirmed that Allah is all muslims since Islam and the Quran requires that all muslims in reality are obliged to emulate Muhammad since he created Allah and because 90% of the Quran is about Muhammad and only 10% of Allah. It is therefore easy to understand why muslims cultivates what's in the Koran. Muhammad = Allah = muslims. Which gives us the explanation of why all muslims support the lies, deception, illusion, terror, murder of people, threats, slavery and oppression to take over the world and exterminate all other belief systems. 1400 years of Islamic barbaric war history shows the same.

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Those are uneducated brainwashed dumbasses killing each other. They aren't Muslims nor follow Islam.

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I see it as the other way around. I think westernized Muslim's are the ones out of touch with their religion of "peace". People that pick and choose parts of their religion they follow are not the true believers or try and interpret it in a way to make it look different than what the text speaks to. Same goes for a lot of Christians.

Then you have the westernized muslims like the San Bernardino guy who was radicalized because of pussy + religion.

More places need to be like Japan in regards to religions like this. They are one of the few that have never been attacked....why is this? Let that stew for a minute.

Also its a bit scary to read the comment sections on some articles from prominent Muslim leaders, that two of my buddies (who are Muslim) from high school post. Then watch about 50/50 argue for and against ISIS and other atrocities.

[ 2015-12-06, 08:26 AM: Message edited by: CoyoteMike ]

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