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Originally posted by 135.0:
http://youtu.be/ghYb-MK0pG4
Carrera gt a "death" machine by Jeremy clarkson
It's like a flawed design by Porsche
It's not a flawed design. The car is setup from the factory to go as fast as possible through corners which means it's setup a little loose. 99.9% of production cars are setup to understeer because understeer is safe. The car demands your 100% attention. Nobody knows what happened but I bet the driver either got distracted by something he wasn't expecting or the car had a mechanical failure. Bottom line, it is extremely risky to drive fast in an uncontrolled environment. Very sad situation.
RIP to a fellow gear head.
the car is pretty uncontrollable in a slide at speed with the traction control OFF bottom line. it goes where it wants reguardless of driver input at that point.
the weight tries and takes the lead in a slide and look what the car does.
the "set up is a little loose" on the Carrera? whatever that means? have you driven one?
not a safe design for a steet car if it behaves like that period. especially in rain!
"Designed" fast as possible through corners? yet the benz makes it through corners quicker??
if you have to drive the car through corners like your walking on a tight rope jus to keep it on the road having no mercy with traction control off... bad design
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/30/showbiz/actor-paul-walker-dies/
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Walker's generosity
Tales of the actor's philanthropy are not new. CNN confirmed one story from a decade ago when Walker noticed a young U.S. military veteran shopping with his fiance for a wedding ring in a Santa Barbara jewelry store.
"The groom was just back from duty in Iraq, and he was going to be deployed again soon and wanted to buy a wedding ring, but he said he just could not afford it," saleswoman Irene King told CNN. "I don't think the soldier realized how expensive those rings are, about $10,000."
Although Walker noticed them, the couple apparently did not know who he was, King said.
"Walker called the manager over and said, 'Put that girl's ring on my tab,' " she said. "Walker left all his billing info, and it was a done deal. The couple was stunned. She was thrilled and could not believe someone did this."
King called it "the most generous thing I have ever seen."
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Originally posted by SF Coupe:
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Originally posted by Saleen 00-0768:
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Originally posted by 135.0:
http://youtu.be/ghYb-MK0pG4
Carrera gt a "death" machine by Jeremy clarkson
It's like a flawed design by Porsche
It's not a flawed design. The car is setup from the factory to go as fast as possible through corners which means it's setup a little loose. 99.9% of production cars are setup to understeer because understeer is safe. The car demands your 100% attention. Nobody knows what happened but I bet the driver either got distracted by something he wasn't expecting or the car had a mechanical failure. Bottom line, it is extremely risky to drive fast in an uncontrolled environment. Very sad situation.
RIP to a fellow gear head.
They are now saying it had a steering line burst. And that is one of the reasons there are no skid marks, and the reason for the front end fire. Was a whole write up about about it on reddit.
Link with footage of the wreck happening.
http://freepatriot.org/2013/12/02/breaking-surveillance-film-shows-crash-killed-paul-walker-star-fast-furious/
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Oh man..rip.
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Originally posted by Saleen 00-0768:
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Originally posted by SF Coupe:
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Originally posted by Saleen 00-0768:
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Originally posted by 135.0:
http://youtu.be/ghYb-MK0pG4
Carrera gt a "death" machine by Jeremy clarkson
It's like a flawed design by Porsche
It's not a flawed design. The car is setup from the factory to go as fast as possible through corners which means it's setup a little loose. 99.9% of production cars are setup to understeer because understeer is safe. The car demands your 100% attention. Nobody knows what happened but I bet the driver either got distracted by something he wasn't expecting or the car had a mechanical failure. Bottom line, it is extremely risky to drive fast in an uncontrolled environment. Very sad situation.
RIP to a fellow gear head.
the car is pretty uncontrollable in a slide at speed with the traction control OFF bottom line. it goes where it wants reguardless of driver input at that point.
the weight tries and takes the lead in a slide and look what the car does.
the "set up is a little loose" on the Carrera? whatever that means? have you driven one?
not a safe design for a steet car if it behaves like that period. especially in rain!
"Designed" fast as possible through corners? yet the benz makes it through corners quicker??
if you have to drive the car through corners like your walking on a tight rope jus to keep it on the road having no mercy with traction control off... bad design
Just because this car is mid engine does not mean it is uncontrollable. The handling of the car is just as much influenced by the spring/shock/sway bar package. Porsche set this car up as it would a race car, which is a little bit loose, in other words willing to rotate about its axis. The faster a car can rotate the faster it can turn in to a corner, get around the corner and get pointed in the right direction so you can accelerate. The fastest street cars and race cars on the planet are mid engine. Bugatti Veyron, Pagani Zonda, Ferrari, Formula 1, American Le Mans prototype cars are all mid engine.
I have not driven a Carrera GT but I have some experience in a race car and when a race car is setup properly it is on the knife edge of breaking loose. You have to be on top of it and completely focused. Any little thing on the track can send you off the track, even a small layer of dust can put you in a spin.
Top Gear is an entertainment show. Take their results with a grain of salt.
Roger Rodas was an experienced racer and knew exactly what this car was and the risks involved with driving it on the street.
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How long ago was traction control introduced into cars? Seems weird that professional racers need traction control to keep it on the road now, i didn't think it was introduced that long ago.
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How long ago was traction control introduced into cars? Seems weird that professional racers need traction control to keep it on the road now, i didn't think it was introduced that long ago.
'09 it became mandatory.
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Get ready for politicians in this state to use this tragedy to push some new agenda about speeding or racing smh...rip Paul walker
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Get ready for politicians in this state to use this tragedy to push some new agenda about speeding or racing smh...rip Paul walker
oh its going to happen just watch....
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pro drivers? more like hella money and drove as a hobbie cause he could, he was a pro actor folks. no car god other then acted with hot chicks lol. and pro drivers dont or shouldnt speed on city streets.
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^ Roger Rodas was actually a racecar driver/owner,he had the necessary skills to prevent this but even Dale Earnhardt died,unfortunatley bad shit just happens ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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Didnt Jay Leno wipe out on one of these too? I think it was on that show where he built his Toronado and made it a RWD
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Originally posted by SF Coupe:
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Originally posted by Saleen 00-0768:
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Originally posted by SF Coupe:
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Originally posted by Saleen 00-0768:
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Originally posted by 135.0:
http://youtu.be/ghYb-MK0pG4
Carrera gt a "death" machine by Jeremy clarkson
It's like a flawed design by Porsche
It's not a flawed design. The car is setup from the factory to go as fast as possible through corners which means it's setup a little loose. 99.9% of production cars are setup to understeer because understeer is safe. The car demands your 100% attention. Nobody knows what happened but I bet the driver either got distracted by something he wasn't expecting or the car had a mechanical failure. Bottom line, it is extremely risky to drive fast in an uncontrolled environment. Very sad situation.
RIP to a fellow gear head.
the car is pretty uncontrollable in a slide at speed with the traction control OFF bottom line. it goes where it wants reguardless of driver input at that point.
the weight tries and takes the lead in a slide and look what the car does.
the "set up is a little loose" on the Carrera? whatever that means? have you driven one?
not a safe design for a steet car if it behaves like that period. especially in rain!
"Designed" fast as possible through corners? yet the benz makes it through corners quicker??
if you have to drive the car through corners like your walking on a tight rope jus to keep it on the road having no mercy with traction control off... bad design
Just because this car is mid engine does not mean it is uncontrollable. The handling of the car is just as much influenced by the spring/shock/sway bar package. Porsche set this car up as it would a race car, which is a little bit loose, in other words willing to rotate about its axis. The faster a car can rotate the faster it can turn in to a corner, get around the corner and get pointed in the right direction so you can accelerate. The fastest street cars and race cars on the planet are mid engine. Bugatti Veyron, Pagani Zonda, Ferrari, Formula 1, American Le Mans prototype cars are all mid engine.
I have not driven a Carrera GT but I have some experience in a race car and when a race car is setup properly it is on the knife edge of breaking loose. You have to be on top of it and completely focused. Any little thing on the track can send you off the track, even a small layer of dust can put you in a spin.
Top Gear is an entertainment show. Take their results with a grain of salt.
Roger Rodas was an experienced racer and knew exactly what this car was and the risks involved with driving it on the street.
It may very well have been a mechanical failure in that situation. I was only commenting on the handling aspect of the car and how it doesn't do well in a slide or drift, and just because its configured as a mid-engine (which isn't typical Porsche) doesn't mean it handles the same as all other mid engine cars and is balanced the same, which was my reason for saying "flawed".
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This article pretty much says that if they were alive after the crash they could have possibly survived it IF someone was on scene right after the accident and had a fire extinguisher.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/03/showbiz/paul-walker-death/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Santa Clarita, California (CNN) -- The fire that engulfed the Porsche carrying actor Paul Walker apparently did not erupt until a minute after the car clipped a light pole Saturday.
That conclusion is based on security camera video obtained by CNN that shows black smoke starting to rise from the crash scene 60 seconds after it shows the light pole and a tree falling.
Investigators have placed a "security hold" on preliminary findings of the autopsies of the remains of two men -- presumed to be Walker and friend Roger Rodas, a coroner's officer said. The autopsies were completed Tuesday, Los Angeles County Coroner Lt. Fred Corral said.
The coroner will not even disclose if the identities have been confirmed using dental X-rays. Officially, the dead are only identified as case numbers.
Corral did not give a reason for the secrecy, which can be requested by law enforcement agencies during an investigation. It is often done in cases involving criminal probes, but there has been no indication this is anything more than a traffic accident investigation.
The autopsies should be able to confirm whether Rodas, as witnesses reported, was behind the wheel with Walker in the passenger seat.
Video obtained by CNN Tuesday from a security camera posted on a building on the opposite side of the street from the crash does not show the Porsche Carerra GT crashing along a business park street in Valencia, California, Saturday afternoon.
It does show the light pole and tree falling. Smoke is faintly visible above the scene 60 seconds later, followed by a heavy plume of black smoke after two minutes.
As investigators searched for more information about the accident that killed the popular "Fast & Furious" actor on Saturday, one of his co-stars dramatically addressed grieving fans.
Using a police car's loudspeaker, actor Vin Diesel thanked a crowd of mourning fans, calling Walker an "angel up in Heaven." Every night since the crash fans have gathered and left mementos near the spot on a wide business park road in Valencia, California, about 30 miles north of Hollywood, according to Walker's publicist and CNN affiliate KCAL.
Rodas, owner of a high-performance car shop, is believed to have been driving. Both Rodas and Walker were drivers for Rodas' Always Evolving racing team, according to the team's website.
By Tuesday Diesel had posted several pictures of his friend on his Facebook page.
And earlier this week, another co-star, Tyrese Gibson, broke down sobbing as he laid a yellow flower at the site.
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"My heart is hurting so bad no one can make me believe this is real," the singer and actor posted on Instagram. He also shared the duo's last text exchange.
Walker's father, Paul Walker Sr., choked back tears Monday. "His heart was so big," he told CNN affiliate KCAL. "I was proud of him every day of his life."
The actor had told his father that he wanted to take a hiatus from acting to spend more time with his 15-year-old daughter, Meadow, the elder Walker said. "And then boom, he got another movie. He would say, 'I don't know what to do.'"
He said the actor's siblings are having an especially hard time grappling with the death.
"I'm just ... glad that every time I saw him, I told him I loved him," the father said. "And he would say the same thing to me."
The Walker family issued a statement expressing thanks for "the outpouring of love and goodwill from his many fans and friends."
They asked that instead of flowers, people make donations to his charity, Reach Out Worldwide. The actor was at a benefit for the charity just before he died.
"It's comforting for them to know that the son, brother, and father they love so much is equally adored, respected, and appreciated by so many," the statement said. "Paul founded the organization with the genuine desire to help others, and it's important to his family to keep his memory alive through ROWW."
No memorial service plans have been made, Walker's publicist has said.
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