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Eddie510-
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lets keep the racial comments to the side like APES?? thanks ![[patriot]](graemlins/patriot.gif) i dont have no comment. both people have there own opinions and there very interesting to read. we shouldnt dislike each other becuase of this though,because you know we will all see each other at another meet and it will be all good again,lol. damn some of you guys can Talk
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Originally posted by Eddie510:
lets keep the racial comments to the side like APES??
thats racisist! ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
J/K
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Originally posted by RixSikCobra:
Check it out asswipe. According to your description of yourself, I'm more black than you are, so it's time for you, mama's boy, to step the fuck off and stop embarrassing yuorself and to stop insulting blacks by insinuating that they are second class citizens. You are preaching that and, sadly, you probably don't even realize it.
You are a mixed boy who lives in Benicia(the KKK captiol of the world last time I checked ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif) ) You've grown up either there or some other city around Northern California...which is generally considered the most liberal region in the country. You have grown up in an melting pot your whole life...around people just like yourself and you wanna give us the "whoa is me, they don't understand...." speech. YOU are the one who has no clue about equality and what it takes to be a patriot(do yo know what one is..a patriot?)If ya wanna take up the "whitely hates us" fight, at least go somewhere where it actually MIGHT make sense to the people you debating with. We can't relate because we don't see it, only you do because you look for it, and if ya don't find it, you make it up or twist the facts or go on uneducated, ignorant tirades just to inflame.
Once again, you are a disgrace to all the hard-working, African Americans(and those who have the blood)that help define this GREAT FUCKING COUNTRY. I've lived longer and harder with more black blood in me than you and recieved more racial slurrs than you will in your lifetime. You're way too young to be this bitter. Stop listenng to all of the hate mongers you apparently idolize. You have no clue what a hard life is.
edit: When I was a kid, I couldn't get a date because of my dark skin. I hated being mixed. Now, in the same area where I grew up, the women LOVE my dark skin and it's easy to get dates(not that I'm looking). I grew up in a white town, bothe parents died before I was the age of 12, I finished HS on my own, college on my own, and now I have a great job and am successful. ALL on my own. How? OPPORTUNITY AND HARD WORK. There are more opportunities than EVER before because we "feel sorry" for black people. It's not right in my book, but none-the-less there is opportunity anfter opportunity for young black men and especially women....the hard work part usually discourages them though.
signed...I can't sign because whitey has kept me down and I can't spell.
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Originally posted by Eddie510:
all i know his cd is selling. we went to rasputins and eveybody was on it.. ![[Whoo Whooooo!]](graemlins/woowoo.gif)
And alot of people bought spandex during the 80s. Doesn't mean it's tasteful.
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Posts: 891 | From: Fresno | Registered: Dec 2003
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Originally posted by SmokeyBurnout:
In a way I wish this shit would have happened to white people so I wouldn't be hearing all this race bullshit. To me it's just another excuse for blacks to hate whites.
blacks to hate whites?
We don't need another excuse. There are too many reasons to list. You guys have no passion for one another. The blacks that are racist have plenty of reasons to be, Now the whiote racist... none what soever. And the difference between the black racist and white racist is the power factor. Blacks have never threaten the well being of another race. The white racist, (migs66/92)on the other hand do. Let me give you guys a history lesson. The Africa americans, Native americans and Chinese built this nation from the ground up. The reason why the north abolished slavery was fear of an uprising like the one that took place in Haiti and the fact that the south was becoming too polically power because of the 3/5 clause. So with the combination of fear and political stance the north "faught" for the freedom of blacks. Thoughout the 20th century, events such as the creation of the KKK, segregation in the south, emmit till, MLK assasination, Malcom X assasination, watts riots, Black panther destruction (which was order by the president and said that the black panther was the biggest security issue in the U.S. at the time) and so on, and so have been the struggles we the African Americans had to endure , which no other race had too. Blacks have always been used for political gain. Today New Orleans doesn't have much to offer, so the government isn't going all out like they would in other situations. Also where are all those countries that we helped during the Tsunmi?
No sir. The reason that Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation was to undermine the economy of the South during the time of war. Many African-American slaves were still laboring to produce supplies for the Confederate war effort. By abolishing slavery, Lincoln reasoned that it would greatly affect the South's ability to fight the war. If the South couldn't supply their own troops with supplies, how could they expect to win? There was no fear of an "uprising" as blacks were completely subjugated at the time.
And another thing, every new "race" that has come to America has been the subject of discrimination. The Irish, the Chinese, the Slavs, the Italians, the Mexicans, the Hmong, the Japanese. While none of these groups has suffered to the extent of the African-Americans under slavery, it is fallacious to insinuate that blacks have a monopoly on discrimination.
Furthermore, many of these groups have integrated into American society to a much greater extent than blacks. I suppose it is easier to integrate and become successful when one is more willing to reconcile with the dominant culture/power structure than blame the power structure for a groups cultural problems.
You also contend that blacks have been used for political gain. I'd hate to break it to you, but that's how our political system works. A candidate or political party seeks the support of a particular group by promising favor and political access. African-Americans have used politicians and our political system every bit as much as politicians have used African-Americans for votes.
But what does any of this matter? Most people will see what they want to see, rather than pick up a book and take an unbiased look at a situation.
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Posts: 891 | From: Fresno | Registered: Dec 2003
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
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Originally posted by 94gt:
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Originally posted by 306Coupe:
Today New Orleans doesn't have much to offer, so the government isn't going all out like they would in other situations. Also where are all those countries that we helped during the Tsunmi?
"going all out" what does that mean? like numerous of us have said... they cant teleport things in there, it takes time to move supplies... what cnn doesnt show you is the military aircraft flying people and supplies there 24/7.
CNN dies show me them passing over the people on the bridge for days and days. All out is like what happened during the Tsumni. The US had troops over seas helping out quicker than they had them in their own country. Also the U.S. is doing some things now, but it's the response time that matters. Do yuou think it takes more than a day for a plane to come from South Carolina carrying supplies? Nope. I don't believe they moved as quickly as they could. I do realize JohnB and other U.S. military are helping but more can be done elsewhere
Untrue. It took the U.S. awhile to summon enough supplies for the tsunami effort. You also have to remember that New Orleans does not have any infrastructure right now. It has been mentioned various times. Passable roads and an operating airport are necessary to expedite the relief effort. Unfortunately, New Orleans lacks either of these.
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RIXSIKCOBRA---------you are the fuckin man,i dont have to post anything because you took everything i had to say out of my mouth.....i look forward to one day meeting you, you seem like a good guy to know....right on for the good,logical, and valid points from someone who actually lives the life everyday...thank you
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Posts: 604 | From: Peninsula | Registered: Jan 2002
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Originally posted by Eddie510:
lets keep the racial comments to the side like APES?? thanks i dont have no comment. both people have there own opinions and there very interesting to read. we shouldnt dislike each other becuase of this though,because you know we will all see each other at another meet and it will be all good again,lol. damn some of you guys can Talk
You're right I'm sorry. I should not insult an ape that way by saying that the looters of New Orleans are "apes"! Apes would certainly not act in that fashion. I am sorry that I catagorized an animal that is for the most part a peace loving creature with the likes of the fucking garbage in New Orleans that feel because of a natural disaster that being an opportunist is something worth while. What is an opportunist you ask? Someone that feels as though raping, murdering and causing mayhem is ok in the wake of such a horrible event. I mean I fully understand that these looters hadn't eaten in days so it was 110% ok for them to steal fucking plasma screen tv's, Playstations and Nike's because after all when I'm hungry I just rip into a Sony Wega tv or a pair of Air Jordans. Yum!
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This is an article from "The Intellectual Activist" which probably has the most accurate take you will see on the hurricane's aftermath in New Orleans
An Unnatural Disaster: A Hurricane Exposes the Man-Made Disaster of the Welfare State
by Robert Tracinski
Sep 02, 2005
by Robert Tracinski
It has taken four long days for state and federal officials to figure out how to deal with the disaster in New Orleans. I can't blame them, because it has also taken me four long days to figure out what is going on there. The reason is that the events there make no sense if you think that we are confronting a natural disaster.
If this is just a natural disaster, the response for public officials is obvious: you bring in food, water, and doctors; you send transportation to evacuate refugees to temporary shelters; you send engineers to stop the flooding and rebuild the city's infrastructure. For journalists, natural disasters also have a familiar pattern: the heroism of ordinary people pulling together to survive; the hard work and dedication of doctors, nurses, and rescue workers; the steps being taken to clean up and rebuild.
Public officials did not expect that the first thing they would have to do is to send thousands of armed troops in armored vehicle, as if they are suppressing an enemy insurgency. And journalists--myself included--did not expect that the story would not be about rain, wind, and flooding, but about rape, murder, and looting.
But this is not a natural disaster. It is a man-made disaster.
The man-made disaster is not an inadequate or incompetent response by federal relief agencies, and it was not directly caused by Hurricane Katrina. This is where just about every newspaper and television channel has gotten the story wrong.
The man-made disaster we are now witnessing in New Orleans did not happen over the past four days. It happened over the past four decades. Hurricane Katrina merely exposed it to public view.
The man-made disaster is the welfare state.
For the past few days, I have found the news from New Orleans to be confusing. People were not behaving as you would expect them to behave in an emergency--indeed, they were not behaving as they have behaved in other emergencies. That is what has shocked so many people: they have been saying that this is not what we expect from America. In fact, it is not even what we expect from a Third World country.
When confronted with a disaster, people usually rise to the occasion. They work together to rescue people in danger, and they spontaneously organize to keep order and solve problems. This is especially true in America. We are an enterprising people, used to relying on our own initiative rather than waiting around for the government to take care of us. I have seen this a hundred times, in small examples (a small town whose main traffic light had gone out, causing ordinary citizens to get out of their cars and serve as impromptu traffic cops, directing cars through the intersection) and large ones (the spontaneous response of New Yorkers to September 11).
So what explains the chaos in New Orleans?
To give you an idea of the magnitude of what is going on, here is a description from a Washington Times story:
"Storm victims are raped and beaten; fights erupt with flying fists, knives and guns; fires are breaking out; corpses litter the streets; and police and rescue helicopters are repeatedly fired on.
"The plea from Mayor C. Ray Nagin came even as National Guardsmen poured in to restore order and stop the looting, carjackings and gunfire....
"Last night, Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco said 300 Iraq-hardened Arkansas National Guard members were inside New Orleans with shoot-to-kill orders.
" 'These troops are...under my orders to restore order in the streets,' she said. 'They have M-16s, and they are locked and loaded. These troops know how to shoot and kill and they are more than willing to do so if necessary and I expect they will.' "
The reference to Iraq is eerie. The photo that accompanies this article shows National Guard troops, with rifles and armored vests, riding on an armored vehicle through trash-strewn streets lined by a rabble of squalid, listless people, one of whom appears to be yelling at them. It looks exactly like a scene from Sadr City in Baghdad.
What explains bands of thugs using a natural disaster as an excuse for an orgy of looting, armed robbery, and rape? What causes unruly mobs to storm the very buses that have arrived to evacuate them, causing the drivers to drive away, frightened for their lives? What causes people to attack the doctors trying to treat patients at the Super Dome?
Why are people responding to natural destruction by causing further destruction? Why are they attacking the people who are trying to help them?
My wife, Sherri, figured it out first, and she figured it out on a sense-of-life level. While watching the coverage last night on Fox News Channel, she told me that she was getting a familiar feeling. She studied architecture at the Illinois Institute of Chicago, which is located in the South Side of Chicago just blocks away from the Robert Taylor Homes, one of the largest high-rise public housing projects in America. "The projects," as they were known, were infamous for uncontrollable crime and irremediable squalor. (They have since, mercifully, been demolished.)
What Sherri was getting from last night's television coverage was a whiff of the sense of life of "the projects." Then the "crawl"--the informational phrases flashed at the bottom of the screen on most news channels--gave some vital statistics to confirm this sense: 75% of the residents of New Orleans had already evacuated before the hurricane, and of the 300,000 or so who remained, a large number were from the city's public housing projects. Jack Wakeland then gave me an additional, crucial fact: early reports from CNN and Fox indicated that the city had no plan for evacuating all of the prisoners in the city's jails--so they just let many of them loose. There is no doubt a significant overlap between these two populations--that is, a large number of people in the jails used to live in the housing projects, and vice versa.
There were many decent, innocent people trapped in New Orleans when the deluge hit--but they were trapped alongside large numbers of people from two groups: criminals--and wards of the welfare state, people selected, over decades, for their lack of initiative and self-induced helplessness. The welfare wards were a mass of sheep--on whom the incompetent administration of New Orleans unleashed a pack of wolves.
All of this is related, incidentally, to the apparent incompetence of the city government, which failed to plan for a total evacuation of the city, despite the knowledge that this might be necessary. But in a city corrupted by the welfare state, the job of city officials is to ensure the flow of handouts to welfare recipients and patronage to political supporters--not to ensure a lawful, orderly evacuation in case of emergency.
No one has really reported this story, as far as I can tell. In fact, some are already actively distorting it, blaming President Bush, for example, for failing to personally ensure that the Mayor of New Orleans had drafted an adequate evacuation plan. The worst example is an execrable piece from the Toronto Globe and Mail, by a supercilious Canadian who blames the chaos on American "individualism." But the truth is precisely the opposite: the chaos was caused by a system that was the exact opposite of individualism.
What Hurricane Katrina exposed was the psychological consequences of the welfare state. What we consider "normal" behavior in an emergency is behavior that is normal for people who have values and take the responsibility to pursue and protect them. People with values respond to a disaster by fighting against it and doing whatever it takes to overcome the difficulties they face. They don't sit around and complain that the government hasn't taken care of them. They don't use the chaos of a disaster as an opportunity to prey on their fellow men.
But what about criminals and welfare parasites? Do they worry about saving their houses and property? They don't, because they don't own anything. Do they worry about what is going to happen to their businesses or how they are going to make a living? They never worried about those things before. Do they worry about crime and looting? But living off of stolen wealth is a way of life for them.
The welfare state--and the brutish, uncivilized mentality it sustains and encourages--is the man-made disaster that explains the moral ugliness that has swamped New Orleans. And that is the story that no one is reporting.
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