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That's the 'wet' flowbench correct?
Seems like a nice piece from what I know of it.....although I'm still not a fan of flowbenching. Too many variables. Hey....you've got a bench there...ever try varying the pressure? Engines don't run at a constant pressure....it varies greatly. Some heads flow great at certain pressures but perform very poorly at others. Just curious if you've done that yet.

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No I have yet to try that I am not a fan of flow benching either, But it seems that most people are shy when it comes to buying heads with out seeing some kind of proof of improvent. For example we did a old ford 312 wierd head made little improvement on the bench but made tons on the dyno. It helps when it comes to r&d. Are bench flows 1000 cfm and up to 60 inches of h20.

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4 valve head flow rate comparison article?

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Horse Sense: Although all eight cylinder Modular head designs are interchangeable, your head swap project may entail more than just changing the heads and intake. Ford has made several revisions to the Mustang’s supplementary systems over the years--including both fuel and ignition. Be sure to solicit experienced advice in order to find out exactly which parts you’ll need to correctly complete your conversion.


When broken down into its most basic element, the explanation of why four valves are better than two seems extremely simple: As an engine is essentially a large air pump, it follows that the greater valve area (or potential flow area) inherent in an optimized four valve head design will ultimately allow for more airflow (at all lift levels) than a similarly designed and optimized two valve casting. Though basic overhead camshaft (OHC)/ dual over head camshaft (DOHC) four valve per cylinder head architecture has been around for over seventy five years, domestic manufacturers were slow to adopt the less conventional valve train design in anything but small displacement 4 cylinder econoboxes until the early 90s. Chevrolet’s (Lotus designed and Mercury Marine built) 5.7L four cam LT5 ZR-1 motor gets credit for being the first domestic production application of four valve technology on an eight cylinder engine (1990), but it was Ford’s Modular four valve designs that truly paved the way for those carrying the domestic overhead cam performance banner in the mid and later parts of the decade. In the last eleven years, Ford has designed and produced no less than six different production Modular (4.6L or 5.4L compatible) four valve heads, and five of those have come in the last five years. However, as anyone attempting a four-valve swap into a late model GT, or those with ‘96-‘01 snakes wanting to upgrade to newer four valve heads will contest, Modular DOHC head selection can be a scary thing. As was previously stated, there are after all six different production head castings to choose from (five if you don’t want to count the thousand or so, ’00 Cobra R heads cast), spanning from a production run that dates back to the 1993 Lincoln Mark VIII. Just about any well versed Modular fan can tell you that there are zero aftermarket head offerings--other than those of Ford’s own in house speed shop, Ford Racing Performance Parts (FRPP)-- available for modular connoisseurs today. Dual overhead cam Modular owners shouldn’t fret, as the silver lining to this otherwise dark cloud is the fact that aftermarket heads are simply not necessary. Ford’s original equipment four-valve heads have been used successfully on everything from their silky smooth luxury SUV line, to 114 octane swilling six-second dedicated quarter(mile) horses.
In order to assemble the most comprehensive and accurate Ford four-valve head information available, we have enlisted the help of several premiere Modular engine builders. Racer/builder Al Papitto of Vero Beach, FL, is the owner of Boss330racing.com, and a ’00 Cobra R based naturally aspirated 5.4L, 1997 Cobra that is perilously close to the nine-second zone at a portly 3400lbs! Al cut his teeth in the ranks of pro stock motorcycle and alcohol funny car racing, and has only recently begun to share his extensive OHC engine building experience with the Mustang community. James Hensler, owner of Hensler Racing in Reynoldsburg, OH has been nothing short of a pioneer in the field of nitrous assisted Ford four-valve racing. James is the pilot of a Nitrous Express fortified Modular big bore powered NMRA Renegade car. Look for him to eclipse last season’s previous best of 9.30@150 by a large margin this year; his Fox Lake ported B heads/HCI intake top end finding a new home atop a 305CI Modular big bore shortblock. For over two years, John and Mike Tymensky of Modular Performance in Novi, MI have held the title of owning the quickest and fastest (9.34@145) naturally aspirated Modular vehicle in existence. “Project X,” their yellow, FR500 headed, 305 cubic inch assault on the tarmac is also packing some significant upgrades for the ’04 season; a carb and distributor style ignition among them.
While the experts above utilize different style four-valve heads on their respective cars, they all agree on one thing: There really are no bad choices for any application; even the so called “worst” of the bunch can still make serious power when used correctly.
With everything from basic dimensional information and intake selection help, to a complete Ford four-valve head flow bench shootout, and expert advice from some of the most recognized names in Modular racing, we’re finally bringing you the definitive Ford DOHC head answers you’ve always longed for. So pull up a chair and decide once and for all, which Ford four-valve head is best for you.

THE CAST
(In Order of Appearance)

B/Swirl Port: (93-97 Lincoln Mark VIII, pre 99 Lincoln Continental, 96-98 Cobra).
The first and only production Ford head with two (square primary, round secondary) intake ports per cylinder, these swirl port castings arrived first in the ’93 Lincoln Mark VIII. Aptly named, due to the way they promoted the incoming air to swirl into the combustion chambers, much like water running down the drain of a once full sink.
Through the years these heads have proven themselves to be excellent high rpm (8000rpm+) performers-mainly in power adder applications--since their tremendous combined intake port cross sectional area and volume (when combined, a full 55cc more than any other 4.6L head design) provide for exceptional power production in the upper regions of the tach. Ironically, it’s those same big, beautiful, twin ports that also prove to be the B head’s largest inherent design flaw. The extra intake port size has a tendency to kill low/mid rpm intake port velocity and power production-hence the use of Ford’s first IMRC (intake manifold runner control) intake on the 96-98 Cobra. By allowing air to reach only one of a B head’s twin intake valves, velocity, and therefore low/mid range torque production was restored in situations under 3250rpm. Later head designs are clearly superior in this regard, which happens to be the one of the most important considerations for those wanting a stout street motor.
There is also some controversy over the single fuel injector/dual intake port setup. Some claim insufficient air/fuel mixing because of the compromised design, however, others contest that the ability to make 1000+rwhp with only minor porting and some form of power adder is testament to the contrary. Whoever you believe, there is little doubt that even after as little as 8,000 miles, carbon and other deposits tend to form on the secondary ports, causing a major airflow impedance, as there is no fuel present to clean them. B heads feature a somewhat small stock exhaust port that really hinders flow in power adder applications. Major gains from porting come with a quality valve job, some pocket and lots of exhaust work. There really isn’t a lot of material to remove from the intake ports themselves.
The Bottom Line: B heads aren’t the best choice for a naturally aspirated street motor. In order to really shine, they need to be paired with a power adder and a short block that can sustain high horsepower and rpm levels. These, the oldest heads, may still be a great choice for full race applications.

Stock Intake Choices: ‘93-‘97 Lincoln Mark VIII, ‘96-‘98 Cobra.
Aftermarket/Modified Stock Intake Choices: HCI, SSR, PHP.
B head dimensions: Combustion Chamber: 52cc, Intake Port Vol.: 107cc primary (square), 115cc secondary (round). Intake Port Entrance: 1.500x1.300” primary (square), 1.660x1.400” secondary (round), Valves: 37mm Int., 30mm Exh.

C/Tumble Port: (99/01 Cobra, 99 Lincoln Continental).
These second-generation Ford DOHC heads feature a single intake port per cylinder with a smaller cross sectional area that boosts incoming airflow velocity compared to previous years. To understand how C heads earn their “tumble port” designation, try to imagine an Olympic high diver doing repetitive front somersaults before cleanly entering a pool at the bottom. This controlled tumble allows for better air/fuel mixing than in the earlier swirl port heads. The new port design allowed for both substantial increases in midrange torque, and superior horsepower production under 8000rpm when compared with earlier heads. Combustion chamber size is also up 2cc.
The design downfall of C heads, and their larger (5.4L Navigator) cousins, is the relatively flat floor and utter lack of a short turn radius in the throat of the intake port. As such, the incoming air tends to overshoot the valves, making the port think the valves are smaller than they actually are. Some ‘99/’01 Cobra owners reported a “ticking/pinging” noise coming from the drivers side head of their cars. This is due to insufficient cooling around the #6, 7, and 8 cylinders that allowed the valves to overheat and therefore seat improperly. Ford remedied the situation by issuing a TSB to remove and replace the affected heads with a version that featured altered coolant flow.
C heads feature a small exhaust port much like Ford’s earlier swirl port heads, but unlike in B heads, both the intake (throat region) and exhaust ports can see extensive porting work. However, removing too much material from the intake port (mouth region) of a tumble port head will kill velocity very quickly, so make sure your head porter knows what they are doing!
The Bottom Line: C heads remain a viable performance upgrade for those looking for more punch in their street driven 4.6L four valve, without having to pay new part prices for the ’03 DOHC or FR500 versions. The increased midrange torque production and greater overall area under the power curve (when compared to swirl port heads) will enhance the performance of a street/strip driven (8,000rpm and under) modular regardless of application.

Stock Intake Choices: ‘99/’01 Cobra, ‘03/’04 Mach 1 & Aviator, ’03 Marauder, FR500.
Aftermarket /Modified Stock Intake Choices: Al Papitto short runner/ported ‘99/’01 Cobra, Hensler Racing ported stock runner ‘99/’01 Cobra, MP carb intake.
C head dimensions: Combustion Chamber: 54cc, Intake Port Vol.: 177cc, Intake Port Entrance: 1.960”x1.350”, Valves: 37mm Int., 30mm Exh.

Navigator: (98+ Lincoln Navigator)
These 5.4L DOHC heads feature essentially the same intake port design as C heads, however they have a much larger intake port volume than 4.6L castings. Despite the fact these heads feature a relatively small exhaust port, the extra intake port volume could be very beneficial in helping fill a motor of greater displacement-think 5.4L. Expect slightly better midrange torque, and sub 8000rpm horsepower production than even C heads, however the larger intake port size leaves a slim selection of intakes to choose from when utilized on a 4.6L block. Forced induction fans take note, Navigator exhaust ports feature a thicker exhaust divider (while keeping the same overall exhaust port size as B,C, and FR500 heads) that allows coolant to circulate through this vital area. Conversely however, the larger divider can also hurt flow by utilizing additional space in the port.
The real downside to Navigator heads, when used on a 4.6L based motor, is the severe limitation they impose on intake selection. The physically larger 5.4L heads don’t leave a lot of room (when installed on a 4.6L block) between them for an intake plenum to sit-though they do bolt right up. Remember that since Navigator intake ports are essentially clones of those of C heads (just on a larger scale), they too suffer from the same intake port flaws that plague the earlier tumble port design--no short turn or floor in the throat of the intake port.
The Bottom Line: The extra port volume the Navi’s possess could be very beneficial in filling a motor with greater than 281 cubic inches of displacement, or in high rpm N/A street/strip or boosted combinations. Fans of boost should remember the cooled exhaust port divider. Lack of intake availability is the real downfall of this otherwise wonderful casting.

Stock Intake Choices: None (4.6L), 98+ Navigator (5.4L)
Aftermarket/Modified Stock Intake Choices: Al Papitto short runner 99 Cobra (4.6L), sheet metal
Navigator head dimensions: Combustion Chamber: 53cc, Intake Port Vol.: 184cc, Intake Port Entrance: 2.290”x1.400”, Valves: 37mm Int., 30mm Exh.

’00 Cobra R: (’00 Cobra R)
Cobra R heads are bar none the best Modular heads available today. However, their extremely scare supply makes them both ridiculously hard to find, and unbelievably expensive.
Initial performance results are understandably hard to obtain, however Al Papitto reports that with only 25hrs of port work into the his new ‘00R heads, they have already eclipsed the performance of his old Navigator heads with months of labor in them. These heads feature larger intake and exhaust ports, +1mm larger exhaust valves, and a dry exhaust port divider. Cobra R heads also require the use of a specific valvetrain not shared with any other modular application due mainly to their overall physically larger size. Al also claims R heads have too much port volume for a street/strip 4.6L application; only consider them with a larger 5.4L motor or a serious 4.6L race application paired with some form of power adder.
The Bottom Line: The best heads you can or can’t find for a Modular four valve motor.
You are as likely to come across a set of these Modular “Godfather” heads as you are to be Brittany Spears’ next uterus masseuse. Though based on their performance abilities, you may want to start saving, just in case…
Stock Intake Choices: None (4.6L), ’00 Cobra R (5.4L)
Aftermarket/Modified Stock Intake Choices: Sheet metal
’00 Cobra R head dimensions: Combustion Chamber: N/A , Intake Port Vol.: N/A , Intake Port Entrance: 2.370”x1.300”, Valves: 37mm Int. 31mm Exh.
Stock Intake Choices: ‘00R
Aftermarket Intake Choices: Sheetmetal.

FR500: (FRPP)
The sole “aftermarket” offering of the bunch, these high flow heads feature a modified C head intake port combined with the smallest port volume of the group-it seems Ford meant to design these heads for high performance naturally aspirated applications. With the same small standard exhaust port as most other DOHC heads you will still have to remove a decent amount of material from the exhaust ports. Port entrance shape/size remains identical to C heads so finding an intake isn’t hard. These heads are capable of producing power beyond 8000rpm, where earlier versions of the tumble port castings begin to lose their luster. FR500 heads are prone to the #6,7, and 8 cylinder cooling problems as well. Major intake port differences between these and earlier tumble port heads include a raised intake port roof, and a real short turn radius that better directs the incoming air into the combustion chamber; not over the valves like in earlier versions of tumble port heads. These heads also feature a dry divider in the exhaust port, which allows for greater flow, but also higher temperatures. Though improved, the heads can still use some TLC from a quality porter to smooth the roughly finished and newly implemented short turn radius, and the standard exhaust treatment.
The Bottom Line: Outstanding performance heads, with exceptional low and mid lift flow capability. The FR500s only real fault is that the newer ’03 DOHC heads provide near identical performance capability (much better on the exhaust side) paired with a cost differential that is approximately two-thirds less than the FRPP castings. Still a great choice for any application, the heads readily pair to a wide variety of stock and aftermarket intakes.
Stock Intake Choices: ‘99/’01 Cobra, ‘03/’04 Mach 1 & Aviator, ’03 Marauder, FR500.
Aftermarket /Modified Stock Intake Choices: Al Papitto short runner/ported ‘99/’01 Cobra, Hensler Racing ported stock runner ‘99/’01 Cobra, MP carb intake.
FR500 head dimensions: Combustion Chamber: 53cc, Intake Port Vol.: 160cc, Intake Port Entrance: 1.960”x1.350”, Valves: 37mm Int., 30mm Exh.

‘03 DOHC head: (‘03+ Aviator, Marauder, Cobra, Mach 1, Australian Boss 260/290)
Featuring a nearly identical (though 17cc larger in volume due to the fact that they are also used on the much larger Australian Boss 260/290 5.4L DOHCs) intake port to the FR500 head, but combining it with a newly designed, larger and more rectangular exhaust port, these may be the best all around DOHC Ford heads ever manufactured. The improvements made to the intake port shape over previous years include a raised port roof and the introduction of a short radius turn in the throat of the intake port that helps assure the incoming air charge finds the combustion chamber. For those with a forced induction street/strip motor, these are without question the best heads available, and as with the FR500s, they should produce great power up to and beyond 8000rpm regardless of application. ’03 DOHC heads also feature higher quality head castings from the supplier, which is at least partially responsible for the modest increase in flow vs. earlier castings--chalk that up to Ford’s revised quality control standards.
Early runs of the ’03 DOHC head fell victim to the same #6,7,8 cylinder coolant flow problems as earlier tumble port castings. In mid ’03 Ford made a running revision to the ’03 DOHC heads that allowed for more coolant to circulate through the affected areas. A blue mark on the driver’s side head indicates an updated casting, and there are no additional revisions to the ’04 version of this design.
The Bottom Line: On all accounts these are the best modular four valve heads currently available. They combine the exceptional flow of a slightly larger FR500 intake port with a gigantic new rectangular exhaust port.

Stock Intake Choices: ‘99/’01 Cobra, ‘03/’04 Mach 1 & Aviator, ’03 Marauder, FR500.
Aftermarket/Modified Stock Intake Choices: Al Papitto short runner/ported ‘99/’01 Cobra, Hensler Racing ported stock runner ‘99/’01 Cobra, MP carb intake.
’03 DOHC head dimensions: Combustion Chamber: 52cc, Intake Port Vol.: 177cc, Intake Port Entrance: 1.960”x1.350”, Valves: 37mm Int., 30mm Exh.


In Conclusion
Our panel of experts surmised that aside from the nearly unobtainable ‘00R heads, the ’03 DOHC heads are without question the right choice for your Modular four-valve performance application . The combination of a slightly larger FR500 intake port and modified throat region, coupled with a new larger rectangular exhaust port, and a relatively low price (due to it’s widespread use in the Ford organization) makes the ’03 DOHC casting the current head stud of Ford’s Modular stable.
After porting, the relatively small stock valves become the most serious flow limitation; as such aftermarket replacements should be a serious consideration for those looking to squeeze every last drop of performance from their DOHC heads.


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1) Lead, Multiple DOHC head pic- With all the possible airflow advantages that two extra valves can provide, it’s easy to see why so many people are currently turning to Ford’s Modular four valve family to satisfy their performance needs. The question remains, which Ford DOHC head design is best for your application?

2) B head (pic: 0797 intake port, 0989 chamber)-Ford’s first production DOHC head is also the most easily recognized due to its signature twin intake ports. The gigantic combined intake port volume (222cc) allows for good high rpm breathing, at the cost of low/midrange power. Another potential problem area lies in the single injector/dual port design itself-only the primary (square shaped) intake port has an injector to keep it clean. John Tymensky of Modular Performance also states that this inherent flaw “doesn’t allow for optimal air/fuel mixing.” While B heads can be very effective in high rpm, power adder applications, they are no longer the best choice for motors that live under 8000rpm. Known as “swirl ports,” they are also the most readily available DOHC head, with a production run spanning from 1993-1998.

3) C head (pic: 0951 intake port, 0960 chamber)-These second generation Ford DOHC heads also known as “tumble ports” feature a smaller single intake port that boosts incoming air velocity and consequently, horsepower and torque production under 8000rpm-especially when compared to the previous generation DOHC heads. Exhaust port shape and size remain identical to B heads and to the later Navi and FR500 heads as well. C heads were used from 1999-2001 in a wide range of vehicles, including both performance and luxury applications, and are generally considered to be a better choice for sub 8000rpm applications than earlier heads.

4) Navigator head (pic: 1016 ported intake port, 1022 ported int. port close up, 1028 ported chamber) -Cousins to the 99/01 C head, save for the notably larger intake port volume necessitated by their use on the larger 5.4L Lincoln SUV motors. These heads have been found to make great power, especially after porting, however their physically larger size and aforementioned intake ports severely limit intake options. Forced induction users take note of the wet exhaust port divider that will help keep operating temperatures in the acceptable range even after much abuse. Exhaust port shape and size mirrors that of the smaller 4.6L B/C/FR500 heads.

5) Navigator intake gasket on an FR500 head. (Pic: coming) This shot well illustrates the large difference in port volume between a 4.6L tumble port head (C/FR500/’03 DOHC) and their larger 5.4L Navigator relatives. The gaping disparity is one of the reasons that Navigator heads aren’t more readily used on 4.6L build ups; as it is nearly impossible to port match the smaller 4.6L intake runners to the larger Navi head intake port dimensions.

6) Stock vs. ported common exhaust port (pic: 0967 stock, 1032 ported). This is the smaller of the 4.6L exhaust ports in both stock and ported states. Note the time spent on narrowing the relatively thick stock exhaust port divider. Ford did this for us with the ’03 DOHC head exhaust ports. This common exhaust port (shape and size) can be found on the FR500/C/B/Navi heads.

7) ’00 Cobra R-(Al’s pics) If cost is not an object, these are the heads for you. The giant intake ports actually have too much volume for a 4.6L motor, and the exhaust ports flow on the order of 250cfm right out of the box. With only minimal porting, Al Papitto claims “the R heads outflow my old Navigator heads, which had months of work invested in them, by a large margin.”

8) FR500 head-(pic: Looks identical to C head) The only “aftermarket” choice currently available to Modular four-valve fans. These high performance heads feature a modified C intake port with slightly less intake port volume, and better casting quality in the throat region (short turn) of the head, that allow for a substantial increase in low lift airflow vs. earlier tumble port designs. FR500 heads also feature a dry exhaust port that can see major grinding via a porter, but is still much smaller than the newer ’03 exhaust port. Budget racers take note, as these are the most expensive of the readily available heads. FR500 heads share an identical mouth shape and size with C/’03 DOHC heads, which allows for easy intake pairing, but also makes them easy to visually confuse with the 99/01 C heads-be sure to check casting numbers.

9) ’03 DOHC head (stock exhaust port pics coming)-With a nearly identical intake port to the FR500s, aside from slightly more intake port volume (due to the fact these heads are used on both 4.6 and 5.4L applications) but with a much larger and better flowing wet rectangular exhaust port, it’s easy to see why these heads are so hard to beat. When added to the fact that these heads are among the cheapest currently available because of their widespread use throughout the Ford organization, the choice becomes clear. Our expert panel agrees, aside from the ’00 Cobra R heads, the newest Ford heads are also the best. Parts shoppers take note that the ’03 heads have an identical mouth region to the FR500/C heads, as changes made to the throat region of a head are hard to spot; therefore the easiest way to recognize an ’03 DOHC head is by the large rectangular exhaust ports

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