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Posted by El komander (Member # 10751) on :
 
Sup ca fords I'm doing a budget build to my 87 chp , I picked up a s trim v1 for a deal , and already had gt40 heads at home with a cobra manifold and a b cam , my question is is it worth it running that hci combo? Or should I go with something better ? Looking to get the most out of this within a budget Lmk any help is appreciated thanks
 
Posted by FivePTSlow (Member # 7682) on :
 
How fast do u want to go? That combo on a good short block will go mid 12's or faster depending on traction. I ran a b cam with world Windsor sr heads and a Paxton sn92 on my old full weight gt and ran 12.4@113 with a crappy 2.0 60' & that car weighed nearly 3400lbs
 
Posted by El komander (Member # 10751) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by FivePTSlow:
How fast do u want to go? That combo on a good short block will go mid 12's or faster depending on traction. I ran a b cam with world Windsor sr heads and a Paxton sn92 on my old full weight gt and ran 12.4@113 with a crappy 2.0 60' & that car weighed nearly 3400lbs
As fast as I can get it to go lol I would be happy with those numbers I also have my m/t et slicks for the track , I stripped a couple pounds off the car (tubular suspension , and deleted p/s a/c s/p) just trying to get the most bang with what I have
 
Posted by moeofit32 (Member # 10393) on :
 
i say do it the right way get you some aluminum heads and let her rip......it will always be in the back of your mind if you dont....TRUST ME!!!! there are some cheap aluminum heads around just gotta find them

[ 2013-08-28, 10:53 PM: Message edited by: moeofit32 ]
 
Posted by El komander (Member # 10751) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by moeofit32:
i say do it the right way get you some aluminum heads and let her rip......it will always be in the back of your mind if you dont....TRUST ME!!!! there are some cheap aluminum heads around just gotta find them
That's what's bugging me right now lol that's why I wanted to ask first I already wana drive it but I just wanted to see if it would be worth doing right now or take more time and do it the right way
 
Posted by moeofit32 (Member # 10393) on :
 
TRUST ME!!!!! wait it out and doit the rite way...you will have fun....I DO!!!! [patriot]
 
Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :
 
Your setup can make more than your block can handle if you pulley up the blower, iron heads tend to blow more head gaskets vs an aluminum head. You can try a 2.95 blower pulley with a powerpipe and tune it for race gas and you could make 360-400rwhp. I have done, stock cam, GT40 iron heads, GT40 intake, Longtubes, powerpipe, 2.80 blower pulley(15lbs of boost), tuned for race gas and it made 410rwhp.
 
Posted by 83notcher (Member # 12608) on :
 
I have some edelbrock aluminum smog legal heads $600 with 1.6 roller rockers
 
Posted by 93lx4cyl (Member # 10517) on :
 
H/c/I but with a custom cam! Get some pro comp heads cheap aluminum and better than gt40s

[ 2013-08-29, 08:53 AM: Message edited by: 93lx4cyl ]
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
It's cheaper and saves time in the long run if you do your motor as you want it the first time. Trust me I blew thru thousands of dollars and wasted like a year N a half fucking with "temporary setups," definitely learned my lesson. [patriot]
 
Posted by FivePTSlow (Member # 7682) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by El komander:
quote:
Originally posted by FivePTSlow:
How fast do u want to go? That combo on a good short block will go mid 12's or faster depending on traction. I ran a b cam with world Windsor sr heads and a Paxton sn92 on my old full weight gt and ran 12.4@113 with a crappy 2.0 60' & that car weighed nearly 3400lbs
As fast as I can get it to go lol I would be happy with those numbers I also have my m/t et slicks for the track , I stripped a couple pounds off the car (tubular suspension , and deleted p/s a/c s/p) just trying to get the most bang with what I have
Understandable, but if you're putting this setup on an old tired block the gains for aluminum heads will be minimal at best. Maybe a couple tenthts in the 1/4. Not worth all the hassle and extra money in my opinion. Ask me how I know this to be factual.
 
Posted by 83notcher (Member # 12608) on :
 
Pro comp heads are garbage unless u buy them bare. The valve train is POS
 
Posted by sleeping stallion (Member # 8162) on :
 
I did explorer setup threw a a trim while we built my other motor it was fun but this new motor u can tell the difference night and day save up aluminum heads good intake and better cam im at 430 on 5 lb of boost
 
Posted by El komander (Member # 10751) on :
 
I think I'm going to stick with my setup for now and use the rest of the money to finish off the suspension instead , then next year hopefully have Dan build me a fresh short block to put aluminum heads on but for now this will do , anyone know what head gaskets are good for boost on cast iron heads?
 
Posted by racsirx (Member # 1710) on :
 
Felpro 9333pt1
 
Posted by 79 cobra (Member # 10137) on :
 
or fel pro part#1133 mls head gaskets
 
Posted by El komander (Member # 10751) on :
 
So what gasket do I use??
 
Posted by 50Reasons (Member # 6452) on :
 
That cam is not really boost friendly either better off going stock cam
 
Posted by FivePTSlow (Member # 7682) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 50Reasons:
That cam is not really boost friendly either better off going stock cam
I ran a b cam in my old 91 gt. It was full weight, every option, leather, heavy in other words and still ran a 12.4 on drag radials with a small burn out, & granny shiftin not double clutchin like I should, so yeah a b cam isn't the best cam in the world, but if he's already got it I'd say run it! Especially since he's doin a budget build. Plus the b cam is very unlikely to run into any ptv clearance issues.
 
Posted by SneakyStang87 (Member # 10724) on :
 
Use head studs not bolts
 
Posted by FivePTSlow (Member # 7682) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SneakyStang87:
Use head studs not bolts
If you already have high quality bolts, spending the extra $ on studs isn't worth it
 
Posted by KARATExxCHUCK (Member # 12851) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sleeping stallion:
I did explorer setup threw a a trim while we built my other motor it was fun but this new motor u can tell the difference night and day save up aluminum heads good intake and better cam im at 430 on 5 lb of boost
Dang!! 430 on only 5Ib of boost!! That's pretty wicked!!

Charles [patriot]
 




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