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Posted by red5o (Member # 12651) on :
 
So found a guy thats selling some used aft heads they are 165 afr has anybody have good results with afr or which heads are the ones to get Ther going to go on a stock fox with a cobra intake manifold and bbk shortys headers
 
Posted by sneakyfox90 (Member # 9379) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by red5o:
So found a guy thats selling some used aft heads they are 165 afr has anybody have good results with afr or which heads are the ones to get Ther going to go on a stock fox with a cobra intake manifold and bbk shortys headers
with afr 165s, your cobra intake have the lower ported, stock cam n 1.7 rockers and you're at the 300rwhp mark

good combo

[ 2013-06-30, 03:01 PM: Message edited by: sneakyfox90 ]
 
Posted by Charged50 (Member # 9987) on :
 
The 165's are good for mild n/a motor.

If you get some get the pedestal mount ones and make sure u have the right pedestal rocker arms to go with them. I think they are like 3/8th's or 7/16th's. cant remember tho. once u get that stuff and a cam the swap is relatively easy because with the pedestal mounts u dont have to adust the rockers just bolt em on n go.
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
165's are pretty small heads
 
Posted by Charged50 (Member # 9987) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
165's are pretty small heads
The 165cc intake ports are kinda small but all afr heads are cnc ported so the flow a lot better...
 
Posted by wilit (Member # 3367) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Charged50:
The 165's are good for mild n/a motor.

If you get some get the pedestal mount ones and make sure u have the right pedestal rocker arms to go with them. I think they are like 3/8th's or 7/16th's. cant remember tho. once u get that stuff and a cam the swap is relatively easy because with the pedestal mounts u dont have to adust the rockers just bolt em on n go.
Pedestals only come in one size, 5/16". 3/8" and 7/16" are stud mounts.
 
Posted by SLOWSN95 (Member # 8269) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by NEIGHT:
165's are pretty small heads
Bigger isn't always better.

165s will be perfect with your stock motor. I'd just sell the cobra intake and put that money towards a Holley Systemax and some 1.7 rockers.
 
Posted by Tripod (Member # 12868) on :
 
I got 185cc and I love them
 
Posted by JZTRK (Member # 7641) on :
 
i went 11.09 on street tires with this combo

STOCK 302 LOWER END FRESHEND UP BOLT ONS.... BBK FENDER COLD AIR INTAKE ,80MM PRO M MASS 30# INJECTORS,75MM BBK THROTTLE BODY 75MM BBK EGR SPACER HOLLEY SYSTE MAX INTAKE PORTED AND GASKET MATCHED AFR 165s,CUSTOM GROUND CAM, SCORPION 1.6 ROLLER ROCKERSAND BBK EQUAL LENGTH SHORTY HEADERS TO A BBK H PIPE
 
Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JZTRK:
i went 11.09 on street tires with this combo

STOCK 302 LOWER END FRESHEND UP BOLT ONS.... BBK FENDER COLD AIR INTAKE ,80MM PRO M MASS 30# INJECTORS,75MM BBK THROTTLE BODY 75MM BBK EGR SPACER HOLLEY SYSTE MAX INTAKE PORTED AND GASKET MATCHED AFR 165s,CUSTOM GROUND CAM, SCORPION 1.6 ROLLER ROCKERSAND BBK EQUAL LENGTH SHORTY HEADERS TO A BBK H PIPE
Sorry but with out a power adder I don't see it especially on street tires.
 
Posted by LXjames (Member # 10791) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Pure Stang:
quote:
Originally posted by JZTRK:
i went 11.09 on street tires with this combo

STOCK 302 LOWER END FRESHEND UP BOLT ONS.... BBK FENDER COLD AIR INTAKE ,80MM PRO M MASS 30# INJECTORS,75MM BBK THROTTLE BODY 75MM BBK EGR SPACER HOLLEY SYSTE MAX INTAKE PORTED AND GASKET MATCHED AFR 165s,CUSTOM GROUND CAM, SCORPION 1.6 ROLLER ROCKERSAND BBK EQUAL LENGTH SHORTY HEADERS TO A BBK H PIPE
Sorry but with out a power adder I don't see it especially on street tires.
I would believe it I actually seen the time slip and car in person joe doesn't tell no lies
 
Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by LXjames:
quote:
Originally posted by Pure Stang:
quote:
Originally posted by JZTRK:
i went 11.09 on street tires with this combo

STOCK 302 LOWER END FRESHEND UP BOLT ONS.... BBK FENDER COLD AIR INTAKE ,80MM PRO M MASS 30# INJECTORS,75MM BBK THROTTLE BODY 75MM BBK EGR SPACER HOLLEY SYSTE MAX INTAKE PORTED AND GASKET MATCHED AFR 165s,CUSTOM GROUND CAM, SCORPION 1.6 ROLLER ROCKERSAND BBK EQUAL LENGTH SHORTY HEADERS TO A BBK H PIPE
Sorry but with out a power adder I don't see it especially on street tires.
I would believe it I actually seen the time slip and car in person joe doesn't tell no lies
That is very impressive from a 302
 
Posted by StreakMatt (Member # 6257) on :
 
11.09 on street tires from an N/A 302?

Thats a negative sir....
 
Posted by StreakMatt (Member # 6257) on :
 
DP

[ 2013-07-05, 02:29 PM: Message edited by: StreakMatt ]
 
Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JZTRK:
i went 11.09 on street tires with this combo

STOCK 302 LOWER END FRESHEND UP BOLT ONS.... BBK FENDER COLD AIR INTAKE ,80MM PRO M MASS 30# INJECTORS,75MM BBK THROTTLE BODY 75MM BBK EGR SPACER HOLLEY SYSTE MAX INTAKE PORTED AND GASKET MATCHED AFR 165s,CUSTOM GROUND CAM, SCORPION 1.6 ROLLER ROCKERSAND BBK EQUAL LENGTH SHORTY HEADERS TO A BBK H PIPE
what does your weigh? 2400 lbs?

[Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on :
 
Maybe he means a 302 block punched out to a 347 lol. But honestly on street tires I still don't see it.
 
Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :
 
Basically its a 320 to 340rw setup. .MAX...

No. .not 11.09
 
Posted by BIGBALLFACTOR (Member # 7277) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by StreakMatt:
11.09 on street tires from an N/A 302?

Thats a negative sir....
If they have a dot number there street tires sir period.
 
Posted by sneakyfox90 (Member # 9379) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JZTRK:
i went 11.09 on street tires with this combo

STOCK 302 LOWER END FRESHEND UP BOLT ONS.... BBK FENDER COLD AIR INTAKE ,80MM PRO M MASS 30# INJECTORS,75MM BBK THROTTLE BODY 75MM BBK EGR SPACER HOLLEY SYSTE MAX INTAKE PORTED AND GASKET MATCHED AFR 165s,CUSTOM GROUND CAM, SCORPION 1.6 ROLLER ROCKERSAND BBK EQUAL LENGTH SHORTY HEADERS TO A BBK H PIPE
what was done to the bottom end?

how much compression?


gear ratio?


do you know what rwhp your engine made when you ran 11.09?

[ 2013-07-05, 11:21 PM: Message edited by: sneakyfox90 ]
 
Posted by red5o (Member # 12651) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JZTRK:
i went 11.09 on street tires with this combo

STOCK 302 LOWER END FRESHEND UP BOLT ONS.... BBK FENDER COLD AIR INTAKE ,80MM PRO M MASS 30# INJECTORS,75MM BBK THROTTLE BODY 75MM BBK EGR SPACER HOLLEY SYSTE MAX INTAKE PORTED AND GASKET MATCHED AFR 165s,CUSTOM GROUND CAM, SCORPION 1.6 ROLLER ROCKERSAND BBK EQUAL LENGTH SHORTY HEADERS TO A BBK H PIPE
Realy..... That's pretty impressive
 
Posted by JZTRK (Member # 7641) on :
 
As far as the "street tire it was a M/T street@ 15lbs, 10.5.1 comp, partial interior, 5k launch w.o.t shifts @6250 the T5 I had held up to three passes before it said no more
 
Posted by CornOil_&_Boost (Member # 5888) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JZTRK:
As far as the "street tire it was a M/T street@ 15lbs, 10.5.1 comp, partial interior, 5k launch w.o.t shifts @6250 the T5 I had held up to three passes before it said no more
and still it never saw an 11.09 with a stock 302
 
Posted by Mr.10psi (Member # 11062) on :
 
im with streakmatt and cornoil on this, especially with the combo listed, not saying its not possible just this would have to be a stock eliminator setup for me to believe it. Fully gutted, massive gear, huge cam, proshifted etc.
 
Posted by warhorse58gt (Member # 7702) on :
 
Op afr 165cc heads are a very good set of heads. I had them on my 88 coupe. It went 12.5's @ 108 in a full weight 88 with road race set up, 100% smog legal. Meaning every single piece of smog equipment was on the car, even the cats. I switched from Tw heads and picked up a tenth. Fastest it ran with the Tw, was 12.6 @ 110 with cats. Made the switch & lost 1.5 mph out the back, yet still picked up enough on the small end and threw the middle to net a tenth. 306, b cam, gt-40 tubed intake. [patriot]
 
Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on :
 
/\ fuck that TW setup,i raced against it soooo many times an never could get around it [Frown] good ole days lol but I had iron 2.02 heads an a eddy rpm intake both cars passed smog and went 12.50s but on the street I got drug lol fuckn old man Jon..

[ 2013-07-09, 12:24 AM: Message edited by: SIC9250 ]
 
Posted by SIC9250 (Member # 8216) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JZTRK:
i went 11.09 on street tires with this combo

STOCK 302 LOWER END FRESHEND UP BOLT ONS.... BBK FENDER COLD AIR INTAKE ,80MM PRO M MASS 30# INJECTORS,75MM BBK THROTTLE BODY 75MM BBK EGR SPACER HOLLEY SYSTE MAX INTAKE PORTED AND GASKET MATCHED AFR 165s,CUSTOM GROUND CAM, SCORPION 1.6 ROLLER ROCKERSAND BBK EQUAL LENGTH SHORTY HEADERS TO A BBK H PIPE
Lol,arm chair racin' tall tales..I need proof on this one,if true ill be the first to prop you man but that's un real unless you gotta extreme setup like 10psi posted an seeing that you had a bbk I take I don't think you had extreme [Cool]

[ 2013-07-09, 12:31 AM: Message edited by: SIC9250 ]
 
Posted by cemelevu (Member # 10601) on :
 
I went 12.60 at 106 with my AFR 165 combo. e-cam, 1.7 roller rockers, professional products knock off edlebrock intake, MT et streets. tremec 3550RR transmission, 3.73 gears, underdrive pulleys, mac shorty headers, with o/r h-pipe, 2 chamber flows. 91 lx hatch. no driver mod. I cannot remember my 60'. 11.09 does seem like a far stretch w/o any power adder. or major compression. or more cubes.
 
Posted by 86hatchkid (Member # 10698) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Pure Stang:
quote:
Originally posted by LXjames:
quote:
Originally posted by Pure Stang:
quote:
Originally posted by JZTRK:
i went 11.09 on street tires with this combo

STOCK 302 LOWER END FRESHEND UP BOLT ONS.... BBK FENDER COLD AIR INTAKE ,80MM PRO M MASS 30# INJECTORS,75MM BBK THROTTLE BODY 75MM BBK EGR SPACER HOLLEY SYSTE MAX INTAKE PORTED AND GASKET MATCHED AFR 165s,CUSTOM GROUND CAM, SCORPION 1.6 ROLLER ROCKERSAND BBK EQUAL LENGTH SHORTY HEADERS TO A BBK H PIPE
Sorry but with out a power adder I don't see it especially on street tires.
I would believe it I actually seen the time slip and car in person joe doesn't tell no lies
That is very impressive from a 302
And it's smog legal [Smile]
 




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