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Posted by triple b (Member # 8763) on :
 
I got a 306 with ported eddy performers, tfs 2 cam, eddy 2 performer efi intake, accu fab tb, #24 squirters, c&l mass air bbk cold air. I want to put a new cam and heads. So far I gone 104mph 13.7 on slicks horrible 60'. I thinking renegade stage 2 cam and Tf 170cc heads or Afr 165/185 I don't kno what to do. It's a DD
 
Posted by 5Porn0 (Member # 6001) on :
 
Hit up Ecoboostin he has some NEW heads and NEW cam

For a steal

[ December 25, 2012, 05:18 PM: Message edited by: 5Porn0 ]
 
Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on :
 
Your combo must be seriously mismatched to run that time on slicks. TFS heads, custom cam, TFS-R intake, 75mm TB, 30# injectors, LT's and an X-pipe. You'll blow your old time out of the water.

[ December 25, 2012, 05:20 PM: Message edited by: Greasy ]
 
Posted by gohardgohome (Member # 9803) on :
 
13.7?!!?! [Eek!] on slicks ?? [Eek!]

Maybe u meant 12.7???? [Confused]
 
Posted by triple b (Member # 8763) on :
 
It's got bbk shorties, bbk xpipe, flows, too Walbro 255 pump bbk fuel regulator yadada I not a drag racer btw just been down the track only a few times... Like I said I trapped 104. I kno some thing is wrong cuz I went 13.5 with my 302 do0e heads and a f cam with stock gears and street slicks now I even got 3.55

[ December 25, 2012, 05:56 PM: Message edited by: triple b ]
 
Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on :
 
Either am I, hardly ever do I race at the track. I was running 13.6 @ 102 on street tires with a cam and intake. Either something seriously is wrong with your combo or you're a horrible driver.

[ December 25, 2012, 05:49 PM: Message edited by: Greasy ]
 
Posted by MauriSSio (Member # 9943) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by triple b:
I got a 306 with ported eddy performers, tfs 2 cam, eddy 2 performer efi intake, accu fab tb, #24 squirters, c&l mass air bbk cold air. I want to put a new cam and heads. So far I gone 104mph 13.7 on slicks horrible 60'. I thinking renegade stage 2 cam and Tf 170cc heads or Afr 165/185 I don't kno what to do. It's a DD

that mph shows only maybe 250-260rwhp assuming your car weighs 3100lbs or so. how Many times have you taken it to the track?? track prep can play a big role, especially in ET. I'm sure there's more mph to be had as well. sounds like you just need more seat time at the track to me.
 
Posted by triple b (Member # 8763) on :
 
Yeah I could use some seat time, sub frames torques boxes, and a proportional valve to get a good burnout.... Really tho I want to know what's good for heads Im sold on the custom cam by hitech. My best 60' was a 1.9 and reaction .0333. The thing is I'm consistent 13.7 soo....I'm thinking its the car

[ December 25, 2012, 06:45 PM: Message edited by: triple b ]
 
Posted by NEIGHT (Member # 8741) on :
 
Dang that sucks. H/C/I N only run 13.7 there's something wrong kuz I ran 14.10 on longtube ONLY meaning absolutely everything else is stock oh on street tires.
 
Posted by cali95gt (Member # 8940) on :
 
Do you not have gears [Confused] [Confused]
 
Posted by Cstang5.0 (Member # 4925) on :
 
I'm running almost the same set up with a b cam and rpm Intake, it's ran a best if 12.5 at 112 on motor .. I would look into a new cam..

[ December 25, 2012, 07:59 PM: Message edited by: Cstang5.0 ]
 
Posted by Camara90 (Member # 134) on :
 
I would ditch that C&l piece of crap, work on tuning it yourself or have someone else tune it. Somethings not right.
 
Posted by triple b (Member # 8763) on :
 
I have red top #30's and a pro m mass air that's needs to be re configured to na....30's need to be cleaned too. I tuned it running at 14 degrees on 91 octane and 1/2-1/4 tank of gas I also have a small dent in the fuel line from a rock or something could that be holding me back? I have extra fule line to but I gotta cut and flair that shit

[ December 25, 2012, 08:14 PM: Message edited by: triple b ]
 
Posted by blkfoxbody89 (Member # 8361) on :
 
yeah something is definitely wrong there. You should trap 110ish mph.
- do you have the 1262 felpro intake to head gasket?
- Are the intake Ports gasket matched?
I'm wondering if the intake porting job was too aggressive, or maybe the exhaust Port flow was messed with?

- I have a similar setup; eddy perf heads/intake, 70mm tb, and egr, with a B cam, 1 5/8"bbk lts, 3" o/r H pipe, 2 chamber dumps, 3.55 gears, t5, 19# inj, ac del, pullies, full weight '89gt, on street tires, and a bone stock worn out suspension topped out with chopped springs. I pulled a 1.9 sixtey with a12.91 @ 111. Car definitely had more in it too.
 
Posted by triple b (Member # 8763) on :
 
Uhh that's what I was expecting to get out of this combo yes I have the intake gaskets matched to the heads
 
Posted by 5.SL0W (Member # 9987) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cstang5.0:
I'm running almost the same set up with a b cam and rpm Intake, it's ran a best if 12.5 at 112 on motor .. I would look into a new cam..

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[ December 25, 2012, 11:34 PM: Message edited by: 5.SL0W ]
 
Posted by 166 Merlot (Member # 1549) on :
 
How's that tfs-2 sound? U heard a stage-1? Seeing as tho your heads are already ported, i dont thing a diff set of heads will make much off a difference. Maybe u need more cubic inches...

Also might thinkin u have too much cam/intake for that lil 306. Adding some boost to it might be all it needs. That'll IMO pick it up big on the top end. It'll be a freeway monster. Didnt read whole thread, just goin off op

Hows it feel on the low end? Like a slug?

[ December 26, 2012, 12:26 AM: Message edited by: 166 Merlot ]
 
Posted by 96stang4.6 (Member # 9970) on :
 
cam and intake that you have is for 331s 347 363s the intake would be fine for a blower cam would not be that great best bet is the cam and possibly TB could also be air fuel mixture since its not tuned mine runs 13.9 with full intake and roller rockers with street tires and 3.08 gears

[ December 26, 2012, 12:50 AM: Message edited by: 96stang4.6 ]
 
Posted by JZTRK (Member # 7641) on :
 
shit can that eddy intake,c&l maf
as for heads AFR 165's or fly cut your pistons to accomadate a set of AFR 185's with 58cc combustion chambers to bump your compression a bit also get a holley systemax intake and an equivalent throttle body get that pro m and those red tops on there as well and an areomotive FPR and set to an initial 35psi and timing @13 deg and dont waste your money with an alphabet cam that is old technology there is better stuff out there for your money

[ December 26, 2012, 01:38 AM: Message edited by: JZTRK ]
 
Posted by 5.SL0W (Member # 9987) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 166 Merlot:
How's that tfs-2 sound? U heard a stage-1? Seeing as tho your heads are already ported, i dont thing a diff set of heads will make much off a difference. Maybe u need more cubic inches...

This ^, I have the tfs stage1. its nasty, hella chppy. no track times from my car but its a 306 with full tfs topend.
 
Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on :
 
Something is messed up somewhere. On street tires stock gears and heads I got. 13.5 at 105 also a 302 as well.
 
Posted by triple b (Member # 8763) on :
 
Oh I forgot to since this is caford no opinions from people who don't own a wrench and never have built a engine need to respond plz I can read through the bullshit and who actually knos there shit from someone who is regurgitating what they read. Btw that tfs 2 can sound like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4h8Zq6_z-o&sns=em
 
Posted by 166 Merlot (Member # 1549) on :
 
So what do u think the problem might be now?
 
Posted by JZTRK (Member # 7641) on :
 
here is a video of my set up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAcrAfQHwug
 
Posted by triple b (Member # 8763) on :
 
heads and a cam lol idk and that dent in my fuel line maybe its starving at wot because of it?
 
Posted by Cstang5.0 (Member # 4925) on :
 
Do a full throttle pass and read your plug.. It will tell you if your running lean..
 
Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on :
 
Or put a wideband on it.
 
Posted by Pure Stang (Member # 7251) on :
 
Little question are they stud or pedistal mount rockers? On my old 347 I had stud and the adjustment was so far off car ran like crap ( to me It ran ok) but once I took it to the track it only trapped a 109. Knew something as wrong. Had someone re adjust the rockers and the car ran like a beast. One of the rockers was even off some how lol.

[ December 26, 2012, 10:54 AM: Message edited by: Pure Stang ]
 
Posted by 96stang4.6 (Member # 9970) on :
 
i think eddy performers are pedestal which valves do you have on them the 1.90, 1.94, 2.02
 
Posted by triple b (Member # 8763) on :
 
1.5's and 2.02 intake with Harland sharp rockers stud mount I tighten them myself to no up/down play then 1 1/4 turn tighter

[ December 26, 2012, 11:28 PM: Message edited by: triple b ]
 
Posted by Greasy (Member # 5258) on :
 
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xe2zu8_how-to-adjust-rockers-for-ford-or-c_auto#.UNvRE3y9KSM
 
Posted by 166 Merlot (Member # 1549) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by triple b:
1.5's and 2.02 intake with Harland sharp rockers stud mount I tighten them myself to no up/down play then 1 1/4 turn tighter

So they're stud mount? Might be a little too tight. I only went zero lash + a half turn... Just a thought

Oh yeah and to set zero lash i go by being able to turn the pushrod around or not, then i add a half turn on a hydraulic lifter

[ December 26, 2012, 11:56 PM: Message edited by: 166 Merlot ]
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
I never seen the tfs stage 2 perform well but I guess there is one out there.

What's ur cranking compression?
 




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