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209 FIVE.O
Member # 9959
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Bought a new short block new oil pan after market, new gasket ( felpro blue one piece good rite) installed motor did not use no silicone on pan gasket snug only not too tite few days later it starts leaking front n back around the crank shaft damm should of use silicone pist as hell rite take pan 1/2 way off not completly just enogh to get some silicone in there n new gasket leak stops at frnt not at back damm it still pist off rite so off comes the pan new gasket more silicone lots more still leaks frnt n back still pist off as hell rite wouldnt u be too so wtf im I doin wrong do I need new high per oil pan or waht is it tha im doing wrong? please help!!!!!!!!!!
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68stanger
Member # 7842
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make sure your surfaces are clean (use brake cleaner/clean rag), and yes use sealer on the ends, fuck what you hear about the rubber felpro not requiring sealer....use sealer on the ends.
also the gasket has metal stops on the bolt hole areas, they are there to prevent over tightening so snug is not tight enough.
a high capacity pan is rarely ever needed, just go with a stock (FORD) pan, none of that chrome kragen china bullshit shit..... And use the pan rails
the torque sequence/torque specs are --Step 1 (Large bolts) 11-13 ft/lbs --Step 1 (Short bolts) 7-9 ft/lbs --Step 2 (Large Bolts) 15-17 ft/lbs --Step 2 (Short Bolts) 10-12 ft/lbs
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209 FIVE.O
Member # 9959
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Yeah for sure im on my way to get a pan from pick n pull see if i find a nice n strate one cause all those at kragens n auto zone look like crap thanx for the drawing n the advice
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SLOWSN95
Member # 8269
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If you're using a 1 piece gasket then there shouldn't be a need for silicone. Besides, you want to avoid it at all costs. If silicone gets in your oil, its possible to block the oil pump screen. If that happens, you will be blocking the flow of oil resulting in lost oil pressure. Some people say that they've never heard of that happening or that won't happen.. but trust me, it happens a lot more than u think.. especially when you go overboard with the sealant
Good luck.. hope u get this fixed
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209 FIVE.O
Member # 9959
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I no the they say no sili one but is pain in the rear if starts leakin again. I got a dif silicone #2 suppost never hardened the guys from fargo auto parts (they actually no bout cars n parts) not like the other auto parts kragen n auto zone if is not in the computer they dont have it or dont no what it is. So just on the crank area front n back im put some n we ll see what happens got a nice stock straight pan from a homie BAD AZZ 5.OHH n sat we r putin it on thanx for the input tho
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SLOWSN95
Member # 8269
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quote: Originally posted by 209 FIVE.O: I no the they say no sili one but is pain in the rear if starts leakin again. I got a dif silicone #2 suppost never hardened the guys from fargo auto parts (they actually no bout cars n parts) not like the other auto parts kragen n auto zone if is not in the computer they dont have it or dont no what it is. So just on the crank area front n back im put some n we ll see what happens got a nice stock straight pan from a homie BAD AZZ 5.OHH n sat we r putin it on thanx for the input tho
If you use silicone, you're actually raising the gasket and you will be more likely to have a leak and you defeat the purpose of that 1 piece gasket. Silicone is used as a gasket maker, not a gasket sealer. They make 1 piece gaskets for a reason. If you are getting leaks out of a 1 piece gasket fairly quickly.. then its not being torqued down correctly.
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68stanger
Member # 7842
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quote: Originally posted by SLOWSN95: quote: Originally posted by 209 FIVE.O: I no the they say no sili one but is pain in the rear if starts leakin again. I got a dif silicone #2 suppost never hardened the guys from fargo auto parts (they actually no bout cars n parts) not like the other auto parts kragen n auto zone if is not in the computer they dont have it or dont no what it is. So just on the crank area front n back im put some n we ll see what happens got a nice stock straight pan from a homie BAD AZZ 5.OHH n sat we r putin it on thanx for the input tho
If you use silicone, you're actually raising the gasket and you will be more likely to have a leak and you defeat the purpose of that 1 piece gasket. Silicone is used as a gasket maker, not a gasket sealer. They make 1 piece gaskets for a reason. If you are getting leaks out of a 1 piece gasket fairly quickly.. then its not being torqued down correctly.
3+ years and no leaks here, used "right stuff" sealer on the ends [ October 19, 2011, 01:02 PM: Message edited by: 68stanger ]
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209 FIVE.O
Member # 9959
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The right stuff is that what is called? or what u talking bout? What is actually called?
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phildog
Member # 1214
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It's actually called " The Right Stuff." Amazing sealant.
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209 FIVE.O
Member # 9959
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Im gona look for it. Where do they sell it at?
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68stanger
Member # 7842
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quote: Originally posted by 209 FIVE.O: Im gona look for it. Where do they sell it at?
i know for sure that kragens/oreily's sells it (the right stuff)
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209 FIVE.O
Member # 9959
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Good lookin out Thanx
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87 coupe
Member # 10919
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Echale mecoslavia that works too lol
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turbo50
Member # 6700
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Dab in 4 corners on a one piece pan gasket and never leak. Fms gasket for the win.
Be careful I've got 351w pan gaskets boxed as 302 pan gaskets a few times now......
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209 FIVE.O
Member # 9959
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quote: Originally posted by 87 coupe: Echale mecoslavia that works too lol
That should work y si no trabaja me dejo chupar los guevos lol
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87 coupe
Member # 10919
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Hahaha
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209 FIVE.O
Member # 9959
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Finaly oil pan gasket went in (installed) and no fucken leaks Thanx to Bad Ass 5.OH
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87 coupe
Member # 10919
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Did u use mecoslavia
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209 FIVE.O
Member # 9959
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No I used the blanco-te- echo silicone real good stuff ha ha ha
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