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Posted by MACKANGEL (Member # 10461) on :
 
Hi everyone, I just blew my head gasket and maybe worse. I probably will at least be hunting for a proper short block very soon here. any tips and/ or helpful advice on what to look for and look out for ? Also, I know this is prolly a noob question, but when a block has been punched out to a 306 from a 302 what parts of the 302 can be still used in the 306 ? bigger piston? or thicker ring ? I would really apprecaite any and all helpful advice on this , thanks everyone.
 
Posted by Adam5.0 (Member # 6995) on :
 
at minimum larger pistons and matching rings are used
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MACKANGEL:
Hi everyone, I just blew my head gasket and maybe worse. I probably will at least be hunting for a proper short block very soon here. any tips and/ or helpful advice on what to look for and look out for ? Also, I know this is prolly a noob question, but when a block has been punched out to a 306 from a 302 what parts of the 302 can be still used in the 306 ? bigger piston? or thicker ring ? I would really apprecaite any and all helpful advice on this , thanks everyone.
You can use every part other than the pistons and rings like Adam5.0 said.

I dont think you will find a better deal on a forged piston roller motor shortblock with fresh rings and bearings than the price I shot you.

Matter of fact, unless you do it yourself or someone does it for free, you wont. Not around here.

I do encourage you to tackle this yourself, however.

It is not brain surgery.

Dan
 
Posted by MACKANGEL (Member # 10461) on :
 
Thanks Dan, you also said 2 weeks was the best you could do, and I'd like to be back on the road a bit sooner than that. The issue isn't the price. I was asking the forum what to look for and what to look out for. maybe even good questions that a buyer might ask a seller. Since this is my first time having to go find a short block , I thought the people on here might be coo about it .
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MACKANGEL:
Thanks Dan, you also said 2 weeks was the best you could do, and I'd like to be back on the road a bit sooner than that. The issue isn't the price. I was asking the forum what to look for and what to look out for. maybe even good questions that a buyer might ask a seller. Since this is my first time having to go find a short block , I thought the people on here might be coo about it .
Absolutely man. Not arguing that at all. Dont take my mentioning the price the wrong way, just wanted to let you know what you would be up against. I also answered one of your questions.

If money isnt an issue you can easily have your motor the next day if you want. CHP stocks them and may other vendors.

Dan
 
Posted by wilit (Member # 3367) on :
 
Be careful buying a used shortblock. Make sure you inspect it carefully before leaving home with it. Here's what I ended up with. http://www.californiafords.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=024165#000000

After I posted that thread, I dropped the parts off at the machine shop and they found a crack in the block.
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MACKANGEL:
Thanks Dan, you also said 2 weeks was the best you could do, and I'd like to be back on the road a bit sooner than that. The issue isn't the price. I was asking the forum what to look for and what to look out for. maybe even good questions that a buyer might ask a seller. Since this is my first time having to go find a short block , I thought the people on here might be coo about it .
The more that I think about it there are several folks in here that it would be worth whatever they would charge, to take with you to inspect any shortblock or longblock or parts you are planning to purchase if you dont have the knowledge yourself.

Just a tought.

Dan
 
Posted by djjstylz (Member # 10957) on :
 
Yes, like already mentioned bigger pistons and rings. Unless you take apart the block before you buy, you never really know what you're gonna find. Personally I would buy either a short block ready for heads or a bare block that has already been inspected and machined by a trusted shop. You will lose a lot more money later by trying to save some now. The block is the heart of your car, do it right the first time.
 
Posted by Adam5.0 (Member # 6995) on :
 
I got a 306 shortblock. forged pistons, stock bottom pretty much. comes with aluminum flywheel. about 1500 miles. just add your cam and lifters $800
 
Posted by sydewayzLX50 (Member # 10217) on :
 
Do yourself a favor and get the block that turbo50 is building with stock forged pistons. Hes a good guy to deal with and knows his stuff. A few guys i know run blocks hes built and have had no issues
 
Posted by MACKANGEL (Member # 10461) on :
 
Thats coo, but did you read the part where I aint trying to wait two whole weeks for a short block ? when I got time like that to spare I might holla at your dude , maybe.
Adam good lookin for that offer, I might come see what sup with that.
Everyone else thanks for the relavent to my question input. that was all good advice , and aside from all the advertsing and promos on this post, future members on this forum might even be able to gain something if they find themselves in my shoes.
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
Dude I offered up sound advise to you.

Aint nobody runnin promos or advertising, I do that in the ford sale section where you have hit me up......so I mentioned it.

WHAT YOU CLEARLY OVERLOOKED IS:

I told you to take someone who knows what the f**K they are doin with you because you obviously dont.

I also told you to attempt it yourself, tons of folks on here to help you out.

I had nothing to do with anyone else chimin in about my work, it speaks for itself.

Oh and the "yeah, maybe I might holla at yo dood"....well here is the PM you sent where you MIGHT of hollad at the dude....... since you want to try to put folks on blast.

Dont bother calling me for a motor, no interest in helpin those that wont let you help.


"MACKANGEL
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Member # 10461 Ford Icon 1 posted June 03, 2011 09:49 PM Profile for MACKANGEL Email MACKANGEL Hi Dan,
We spoke earlier this afternoon about a short block deal. I was just wondering if you'd like to consider selling me the short block you have on sale on here, minus the parts that I don't need. Today I toasted my motor after my cousins rap video shoot in the city, I got the J code motor. My brother offered to give me a lift out to Discovery Bay tomorrow if its coo with you. Ill give a call around 11am. And if this all works out like I hope, Ill send people your way to do business too. Thanks again for your time earlier today, and I appreciate your help, and advise.

-Miguel

************possible deal*******
+Budget built engine for sale.

+Rebuilt forged piston roller motor (5.0)
+New king bearings (standard)
+Moly rings (standard)
+Melling steel oil pump
+ARP oil pump driveshaft
+Engine gasket set included (what ones are used on the longblock of course)
+All new engine plugs and hardware.
- New double row timing set
- Stock camshaft (have smog legal crane for additional monies)
- 1.7 crane pedestal mount rockers
+ Trick flow head bolts
- GT40Ps with .600 lift springs (heads have 5K mile run time)"


That was on the 3rd. AFTER I told you it would be two weeks.

Then you go and kiss adam5.0s nuts after he CLEARLY advertised his shortblock for sale...

Too funny.

[ June 06, 2011, 06:43 PM: Message edited by: turbo50 ]
 
Posted by MACKANGEL (Member # 10461) on :
 
WOW CAN YOU SAY GET A FUCKIN LIFE PAL AND GET OFF MY DICK ! Just cuz I aint doing business with you, you aint the only motherfucker on the planet who got a engine for sale.
 
Posted by MACKANGEL (Member # 10461) on :
 
plus by how you act on here I wouldn't trust you for shit.
as a matter of fact I already been advised about you and your work.
plus you live in the fuckin boonies way the fuck out the way. so I aint shootin you no business anyhow.
as a matter of fact Ill see when I see you fool. I hope you do keep talking shit....

[ June 07, 2011, 02:09 AM: Message edited by: MACKANGEL ]
 
Posted by MACKANGEL (Member # 10461) on :
 
and for the record you false advertise on here and craisglist cuz you offer something for sale , thats not ready for sale, so tell me , what part of the game is that ? you aint no hustler, you aint even got your advertised product online and thats sucka shit

[ June 07, 2011, 02:08 AM: Message edited by: MACKANGEL ]
 
Posted by wilit (Member # 3367) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MACKANGEL:
plus by how you act on here I wouldn't trust you for shit.
as a matter of fact I already been advised about you and your work.
plus you live in the fuckin boonies way the fuck out the way. so I aint shootin you no business anyhow.
as a matter of fact Ill see when I see you fool. I hope you do keep talking shit....
[Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MACKANGEL:

as a matter of fact Ill see when I see you fool. I hope you do keep talking shit....
I aint too hard to find ya keyboard thug.
 
Posted by 87MclarenMustang (Member # 10695) on :
 
Hahaha... Dammit! Lol
 
Posted by Blind (Member # 3052) on :
 
I think somebody needs a hug, more than they need a new shortblock.
 
Posted by blkfoxbody89 (Member # 8361) on :
 
Fuck that shit, disrespectful ignorant punk assbitch has no idea what he's talking about. Sorry you have to deal with scum like this dan.
 




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