how much rwhp should someone expect with a 331 smog legal stroker?

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Posted by 93ex chp (Member # 9016) on :

They have a basic 331 stroker kit e cam trickflow heads upper and other smog legal parts on. Passes smog with flying colors..what's the rear wheel hp they should see on this type of setup?

[ January 31, 2011, 12:21 AM: Message edited by: 93ex chp ]

Posted by copcar (Member # 10113) on :

Who is/are they? as for power, not much over 320hp and 355 tq. Would make for a very fun street engine though.

Posted by 93ex chp (Member # 9016) on :

I have a buddy that wants to build a smog legal 331 smog legal trickflow set up with a e cam and was wondering what he should expect at the dyno

Posted by mikeceli (Member # 8389) on :

I am interested in the build, the OP is talking about.. I recently asked about building a cali smog legal 331.

Most advised it was not possible, w/o replacing the SD(speed density) w/ MAF. That would NOT be legal, on my 88 LSC.

Posted by lscstk (Member # 5788) on :

it is, many have done it on MK7

Posted by mikeceli (Member # 8389) on :

Hi Buddy! Can you post or PM details (part numbers, cast/hyper/forged info, etc) on 331 strokers, w/ SD, that have past cali smog?

Myself and others REALLY want to build one, retaining the SD and cruise control, AND PASS SMOG.

Thanks! Mike Celi.

Posted by lscstk (Member # 5788) on :

go to this site, they have plenty of tech articles particualr to our cars,
the group is heplful
/www.fordvschevy.com/forum

Posted by mikeceli (Member # 8389) on :

Been there, still need detailed build info RE 331 that past cali smog w/ SD.

Posted by BlownSnake95 (Member # 10578) on :

mine made 466rwhp and 447lbft of torque with a blown 331 and passed smog.

Posted by threethirty1 (Member # 7814) on :

my dd car makes around 340 350
passes smog
traps almost 113 on bald 245 street tires, 3:55s

Posted by threethirty1 (Member # 7814) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mikeceli:
Been there, still need detailed build info RE 331 that past cali smog w/ SD.

that is retarded

Posted by Nifty50 (Member # 9987) on :

Mine made 350 & 380 in torque , with afr 185's , nx282 cam , edl rpm II intake & full exhaust on 11.5-1 comp ratio.

Posted by lscstk (Member # 5788) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mikeceli:
Been there, still need detailed build info RE 331 that past cali smog w/ SD.

Dude you have to log in search the treads on 331 builds,and then post some questions if you need
specifics. I don't know what you looked at , but Bluegrass(member handle) has a lot info on MAF, heads Intake, rotating assembly. if you want a book on builds then go to Barnes and Noble, but if you want to be part of a network introduce yourself, no one is going to just answer a thousand questions for no one, put a little work in.

[ February 09, 2011, 10:06 PM: Message edited by: lscstk ]

Posted by threethirty1 (Member # 7814) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Nifty50:
Mine made 350 & 380 in torque , with afr 185's , nx282 cam , edl rpm II intake & full exhaust on 11.5-1 comp ratio.

that cam passed smog throught the tail pipes?

Posted by mikeceli (Member # 8389) on :

quote:
Originally posted by lscstk:

quote:
Originally posted by mikeceli:
Been there, still need detailed build info RE 331 that past cali smog w/ SD.
Dude you have to log in search the treads on 331 builds,and then post some questions if you need
specifics. I don't know what you looked at , but Bluegrass(member handle) has a lot info on MAF, heads Intake, rotating assembly. if you want a book on builds then go to Barnes and Noble, but if you want to be part of a network introduce yourself, no one is going to just answer a thousand questions for no one, put a little work in.

"DUDE" I have searched with negative results. Why shouldn't a new forum member ask questions?

Oh, I see you live in Stockton. That explains a lot.

Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mikeceli:
I am interested in the build, the OP is talking about.. I recently asked about building a cali smog legal 331.

Most advised it was not possible, w/o replacing the SD(speed density) w/ MAF. That would NOT be legal, on my 88 LSC.

You were told it was completely possible...but the results may not have been what you were looking for, not to mention a complete waste of time throwing stock parts back on it. Additionally, you were advised that putting a camshaft outside of stock specs wouldn't work well with SD...hense the need to change to MAF. I personally spelled out a complete combo for you, what more do you want?

FYI, a MAF upgrade is COMPLETELY legal.

If you want to build a stroker and slap all stock parts back on it, for fear you won't pass smog, go for it. There are PLENTY of Carb EO legal parts out there; whether you want to use them is up to you.

Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 93ex chp:
They have a basic 331 stroker kit e cam trickflow heads upper and other smog legal parts on. Passes smog with flying colors..what's the rear wheel hp they should see on this type of setup?

What is the compression ratio?

Posted by mikeceli (Member # 8389) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mikeceli:
I am interested in the build, the OP is talking about.. I recently asked about building a cali smog legal 331.

Most advised it was not possible, w/o replacing the SD(speed density) w/ MAF. That would NOT be legal, on my 88 LSC.

LOOK, I appriciate the response's.

But, some of you are ignoring the criterior I stated I want to comply to.

I want to increase torque about 40-70 ft lbs, while retaining the Lincoln qualities.

I know I will be leaving power on the table! But I will not "give-away" anything IE: cruise control, ABS, quiet smooth reliability, pass smog. I do not want to alter the hood.

This is why I would like to add cubes INSIDE the engine. Not a 351 swap, blower, nitrous.

And, unfortunatly, it must pass smog. I am asking if any cali residents have accomplished this. If so, PLEASE advise exactly what heads, cam, stroker kit, was used.

I have been to the NATIONAL Lincoln / Ford forums, but who in the "non-smog" states would bother with such a build? I wouldn't , except I have no choice.

thank you.

PS My apoligies to any Fine Folks, residing in Stockton, who might have read my earlier besmirch.

Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :

quote:
Originally posted by mikeceli:

quote:
Originally posted by mikeceli:
I am interested in the build, the OP is talking about.. I recently asked about building a cali smog legal 331.

Most advised it was not possible, w/o replacing the SD(speed density) w/ MAF. That would NOT be legal, on my 88 LSC.
LOOK, I appriciate the response's.

But, some of you are ignoring the criterior I stated I want to comply to.

I want to increase torque about 40-70 ft lbs, while retaining the Lincoln qualities.

I know I will be leaving power on the table! But I will not "give-away" anything IE: cruise control, ABS, quiet smooth reliability, pass smog. I do not want to alter the hood.

And, unfortunatly, it must pass smog. I am asking if any cali residents have accomplished this. If so, PLEASE advise exactly what heads, cam, stroker kit, was used.

Alter the hood? What the hell are you talking about? The engine block will not be any larger than what you have right now. WTF does cruise control, ABS, etc have to do with a longblock build? These are ACCESSORIES. They have NOTHING to do with the INTERNALS of a engine.

As stated, NUMEROUS people have accomplished this. It's not rocket science. Want a guaranteed combo? 347 10-1cr and use ALL your stock parts over. You will have the tq you want and it WILL pass smog.

Posted by mikeceli (Member # 8389) on :

I didn't come here to argue.

351 swap requires hood alteration and will not clear the ABS MC/Pump/controller assembly, on Mark VII's.

Converting from SD to MAF kills cruise control, on 88-92 Mar VII's. Their cruse operates via the ECM (BCM).

[ February 13, 2011, 03:38 PM: Message edited by: mikeceli ]

Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :

No one ever mentioned a 351w. 331 and 347 was discussed...and that's a 302 block.

It's pretty obvious that you've got a lot to learn. Feel free to use the search feature.

If you would like to bump YOUR post for further discussion, feel free.

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