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Posted by bigstangs (Member # 7920) on :
 
so i just went to try and smog my 95gt and they said it would not pass cause i dont have a carb sticker for my edelbrock rpm 2 intake i called edelbrock and they said i dont need one but the smog place says i do anyone have this problem and what do i have to do
 
Posted by fasthatch (Member # 7277) on :
 
YOU ARE GOING TO NEED A CARB NUMBER FOR IT TO BE LEGAL PERIOD
 
Posted by gercolla1 (Member # 3068) on :
 
dunno if itl work but cant u jus give them the carb numbers to a smog legal version? like the old ecam trick

[ August 12, 2010, 07:26 PM: Message edited by: gercolla1 ]
 
Posted by Blind (Member # 3052) on :
 
Print out the instructions from edelbrocks website, it mentions that since it is a stock replacement part it is 50 state legal, i always bring the carb #'s and instructions in a binder for all my parts and keep that in my car in case i get pulled over...
 
Posted by ajs91CHPcoupe (Member # 10217) on :
 
+1 on blinds post i went through the same deal if the smog place gives you a hassle get an email or something from edelbrock stating that its a factory replacement. i have the performer 5.0 and there is no carb number.
 
Posted by bigstangs (Member # 7920) on :
 
i have all my carb stickers but they said i dont have one for the intake so they canrt smog it so i look it up on edelbrock said its does not say nothing about being stock replacement
 
Posted by ajs91CHPcoupe (Member # 10217) on :
 
contact edelbrock through phone or email they can send you info
 
Posted by fasthatch (Member # 7277) on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by bigstangs:
i have all my carb stickers but they said i dont have one for the intake so they canrt smog it so i look it up on edelbrock said its does not say nothing about being stock replacement [/QUO
you are going to need the eo number to get smog with that intake on call elderbrock an ask them for it
 
Posted by Bent70 (Member # 9694) on :
 
obviously we need the eo numbers for smog inspection, but do we physically need the sticker for each component. Do elderbrock have stickers or just there word?
 
Posted by fasthatch (Member # 7277) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bent70:
obviously we need the eo numbers for smog inspection, but do we physically need the sticker for each component. Do elderbrock have stickers or just there word?
the stickers have the eo numbers on them or you going to need the paperwork from elderbrock with eo number on it
 
Posted by bigstangs (Member # 7920) on :
 
Does anyone have the eo number never seen one before on the edelbrock rpm 2
 
Posted by ajs91CHPcoupe (Member # 10217) on :
 
i copied this directly from the paperwork that comes WITH the rpm 2 manifold

"Emissions Systems: This manifold is intended as a direct replacement for the factory intake manifold. All emissions related factory
components are to be retained and functional. The manifold is, therefore, legal for street use in all 50 states, and no C.A.R.B. E.O. number
is required. Check local laws for requirements."

so no, there is no e.o. number you can spend hours and hours scouring the internet and never find an e.o. # try me. and if the smog techs are still being dicks about it get these papers that came with the manifold or if you got it used get paperwork directly from edelbrock. trust me i went through this 3 months ago and it worked.

[ August 13, 2010, 12:15 AM: Message edited by: ajs91CHPcoupe ]
 
Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by bigstangs:
Does anyone have the eo number never seen one before on the edelbrock rpm 2
You don't need a CARB sticker but you will need the E.O number. YOu can get it off of this web page.. print it out and take it in.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/devices/amquery.php

If they still give you a hard time then take it to another shop
 
Posted by fasthatch (Member # 7277) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ajs91CHPcoupe:
i copied this directly from the paperwork that comes WITH the rpm 2 manifold

"Emissions Systems: This manifold is intended as a direct replacement for the factory intake manifold. All emissions related factory
components are to be retained and functional. The manifold is, therefore, legal for street use in all 50 states, and no C.A.R.B. E.O. number
is required. Check local laws for requirements."

so no, there is no e.o. number you can spend hours and hours scouring the internet and never find an e.o. # try me. and if the smog techs are still being dicks about it get these papers that came with the manifold or if you got it used get paperwork directly from edelbrock. trust me i went through this 3 months ago and it worked.
STILL NEED THE EO NUMBER THERE NOW WAY AROUND THAT AN SAYING A SMOG TECH BEING A DICK IS TOTAL WRONG WE JUST DON'T WANT TO PAY HUGE FINES FOR DUMB FUCKS NOT AHVING THERE PAPER WORK IN ORDER
 
Posted by ajs91CHPcoupe (Member # 10217) on :
 
ONCE AGAIN NO E.O. # FOR THAT MANIFOLD BECAUSE IT DOESNT NEED ONE.
 
Posted by bigstangs (Member # 7920) on :
 
So what's it the eo number I can't find it
 
Posted by ajs91CHPcoupe (Member # 10217) on :
 
it doesnt exist youll never find it. these companies spend thousands of dollars to get e.o. through the state so its to their benefit to make these parts hookup like stock components. its status is factory replacement they never applied for an e.o. number.
 
Posted by wilit (Member # 3367) on :
 
So, I called the CARB help desk number listed on the CARB website to get a definitive answer on this. Here's what I found out.

1. The girl who answered the phone(sounds like an 18 year old cutie on the phone) doesn't know anything about cars. When I asked my question, you would have thought I asked her to explain Einstein's theory of relativity. She was very helpful though.

2. There is no CARB EO number for the Edelbrock RPM 2 manifold

3. It does not need a CARB EO number because it is considered a factory replacement manifold. The girl verified this with her supervisor and called me back to let me know.

4. Bring in the Edelbrock paperwork to the smog shop or have them call the CARB helpdesk for clarification if they refuse to smog the car.

[ August 13, 2010, 06:29 PM: Message edited by: wilit ]
 
Posted by ajs91CHPcoupe (Member # 10217) on :
 
thank you wilit
 
Posted by wilit (Member # 3367) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ajs91CHPcoupe:
thank you wilit
[patriot]

Sad thing is, there's a lot of smog urban legends floating out there because the laws are just so damn confusing. It took the girl at CARB 2.5 hours to call me back, so I assume, even they didn't know and had to look it up.
 
Posted by bigstangs (Member # 7920) on :
 
still have no luck edelbrock. even gave me a paper to take to the smog place. but they say i need an e.o number guess i have to find a stock intake. so i can smog my car
 
Posted by 94tealgt (Member # 10127) on :
 
Take it to a different smog shop. Or did you try that already?
 
Posted by Wolfie351 (Member # 651) on :
 
To reiterate what others have said... FACTORY REPLACEMENT PARTS DO NOT NEED AN E.O. # If that wasn't the case, your non factory spark plugs would be illegal, your cap and rotor would be illegal, your aftermarket radiator cap would be illegal.

I've smogged with my Edelbrock manifold for 20+ years as a stock replacement part. I bring in the Edelbrock paperwork because most smog techs have no idea about specifics of the law (case in point, this thread). Print this pdf and take it with you also.

www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResources/ftp/pdfdocs/APPENDIX%20G%20final%2012-2009.pdf

If you get hassled again, file a complaint with the BAR. I've done this a couple times for other things. I got one guy in major trouble who took my money and failed me because of my STOCK headers.

There are some awesome smog shops that take the time and find out exactly what is legal and what isn't. Then there are those who won't bother because they have 5 other cars lined up and you're wasting their valuable time. Nothing will happen to them unless you file a complaint with the BAR
 
Posted by ajs91CHPcoupe (Member # 10217) on :
 
yea dude go to another smog place obviously the techs at that one have no idea what the hell theyre talking about
 
Posted by 79 cobra (Member # 10137) on :
 
carb number is carb e.o #d-115-11 took forever 2 find
 
Posted by ajs91CHPcoupe (Member # 10217) on :
 
that carb # is for the holley systemax manifold look it up, there is no # for the edelbrock manifold but nice try buddy
 




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