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Posted by trickflow211 (Member # 8503) on :

I juss added gt40 heads and a cobra upper and lower...the car has never been tuned I currently have cobra upper lowerr. E303 cam 70mm tb cai headers. And from a dead stop I can't even roast the tires... this car feels like it has no power. Does anyone have a handheld tuner or anything I can do to make this thing run right?.

Posted by blown95svt (Member # 8893) on :

You can't tune the 5.0 with the handheld tuners, you need a custom chip, but with those mode I don't think it would be worth the 4-500$ for it, sounds like you have other problems, check your timing and fuel pressure.

Posted by Ty (Member # 4920) on :

wow i dont have the cam or the heads and i can blow the tires off my car from a dead stop and i have an AOD, sounds like you def have issues elsewhere

Posted by 91silverbullet (Member # 8668) on :

Definetly check ur timing...I bet thas where the problem is at..

Posted by 92sleeper (Member # 8789) on :

I have a similar problem. What is everyone running there timing at? 12-14?

[ May 12, 2009, 06:30 PM: Message edited by: 92sleeper ]

Posted by jaejae (Member # 7958) on :

im at 14 or 13..but yea check your fuel pressure timing.firing order etc

Posted by MikeD. (Member # 8060) on :

Im at 14 degrees too. If you have cats on the car make sure they arent clogged.

Posted by BAY50FIVET3N (Member # 9169) on :

yeah nextgen in hayward does good work

Posted by trickflow211 (Member # 8503) on :

How do I check my fuel pressure? Ya I have the aod trannny to... but its not the firing order I don't think but ill checck. Wat else could it be? My timing was at 15 but I bumped it down to 10 todayyy

Posted by Eddie510- (Member # 2354) on :

quote:
Originally posted by trickflow211:
How do I check my fuel pressure? Ya I have the aod trannny to... but its not the firing order I don't think but ill checck. Wat else could it be? My timing was at 15 but I bumped it down to 10 todayyy

with a fuel pressure gauge

Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :

Timing is relative. That is, due to the setup of the 5.0 front cover, balancer & timing pointer, every motor is a little different. That is, they all read a little different with a timing light.

I've degreed several balancers relative to the #1 piston at TDC. Most balancers are off by 1-4 degrees. Advance or Retard.....it depends.

The car currently at the shop has an aftermarket timing pointer....it was 7 degrees off.

It's not hard to degree your balancer, it just takes a screw-in TDC stop (screwed into the spark plug hole), a wrench to turn over the motor & some patience.

Posted by trickflow211 (Member # 8503) on :

i also have maf and 1.6 roller rockers

Posted by SLPR93 (Member # 8769) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:
Timing is relative. That is, due to the setup of the 5.0 front cover, balancer & timing pointer, every motor is a little different. That is, they all read a little different with a timing light.

I've degreed several balancers relative to the #1 piston at TDC. Most balancers are off by 1-4 degrees. Advance or Retard.....it depends.

The car currently at the shop has an aftermarket timing pointer....it was 7 degrees off.

It's not hard to degree your balancer, it just takes a screw-in TDC stop (screwed into the spark plug hole), a wrench to turn over the motor & some patience.

THATS SOME GOOD INFO

Posted by SHOalex (Member # 7720) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 93PONY:
Timing is relative. That is, due to the setup of the 5.0 front cover, balancer & timing pointer, every motor is a little different. That is, they all read a little different with a timing light.

I've degreed several balancers relative to the #1 piston at TDC. Most balancers are off by 1-4 degrees. Advance or Retard.....it depends.

The car currently at the shop has an aftermarket timing pointer....it was 7 degrees off.

It's not hard to degree your balancer, it just takes a screw-in TDC stop (screwed into the spark plug hole), a wrench to turn over the motor & some patience.

+2 Im doing that as soon as i fire up my bucket ass stang thank you!

Posted by Big block 66 f100 (Member # 8867) on :

its not going to have too much power from the go for one i would try to trade someone for a 65 mm tb for two you have an auto your converter locks up at dont quote me but i think 8 or 9 hundred and that cam doesnt cut on untill 2500 or 3000 i cant remember. even if you tune it it not going to do what you want you need gears and a stall then tune it [Wink]

[ May 13, 2009, 02:41 AM: Message edited by: Big block 66 f100 ]

Posted by CobramanPhil (Member # 2170) on :

What gears and tires are you running? That could explain a couple of things. With an e cam and upper/lower intakes you should not be losing that much low end as compared to the stock setup.

Whats the compression like?

Posted by Big block 66 f100 (Member # 8867) on :

quote:
Originally posted by CobramanPhil:
What gears and tires are you running? That could explain a couple of things. With an e cam and upper/lower intakes you should not be losing that much low end as compared to the stock setup.

Whats the compression like?

huh?? how do yuo figure

Posted by trickflow211 (Member # 8503) on :

17 inch cobras and i juss got some like nittos but they have like 50% tread. and i am pretty sure i have 373 gears...and wat would switching my 70 mm tb to 65 do?.

Posted by 84SVOrick (Member # 9039) on :

switching your tb from 70mm to 65mm gives you more back pressure aka torque

Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :

quote:
Originally posted by trickflow211:
17 inch cobras and i juss got some like nittos but they have like 50% tread. and i am pretty sure i have 373 gears...and wat would switching my 70 mm tb to 65 do?.

for that setup, switching from a 65mm to 70mm TB is not going to really do anything for you..

Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on :

Probably already been said in some of the resonses above but.. before you try and have your car chipped you should start with a basic tune and check the following:

* fuel pressure
* TPS
* Timing
* Idle (using idle screw)

I am assuming that when u threw all those parts on you replaced the plugs, fuel filter, air filter, dist cap/rotor and wires. If you didn't then do all that next.

It will take a little while for your computer to adjust to the new parts so drive it around for a bit.

After all that if it still runs like crap then post back up [patriot]

Posted by Big block 66 f100 (Member # 8867) on :

quote:
Originally posted by trickflow211:
17 inch cobras and i juss got some like nittos but they have like 50% tread. and i am pretty sure i have 373 gears...and wat would switching my 70 mm tb to 65 do?.

nitto drag radial

Posted by trickflow211 (Member # 8503) on :

okkay when i puuut my foot to the floor it accelerates hella slow it seems like somthing 2 do with the throttlebody or somthings out of adjustment.

Posted by trickflow211 (Member # 8503) on :

it takes a while to climb rpms. its like its not getting full throttle....u kinda have 2 drive it 2 understand it...

Posted by BUICK GS (Member # 4347) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 84SVOrick:
switching your tb from 70mm to 65mm gives you more back pressure aka torque

wrong.... it gives you more velocity over volume.

Posted by Big block 66 f100 (Member # 8867) on :

quote:
Originally posted by East Bay 50:

quote:
Originally posted by trickflow211:
17 inch cobras and i juss got some like nittos but they have like 50% tread. and i am pretty sure i have 373 gears...and wat would switching my 70 mm tb to 65 do?.
for that setup, switching from a 65mm to 70mm TB is not going to really do anything for you..

not a lot but every little bit counts

Posted by East Bay 50 (Member # 8081) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Big block 66 f100:

quote:
Originally posted by East Bay 50:

quote:
Originally posted by trickflow211:
17 inch cobras and i juss got some like nittos but they have like 50% tread. and i am pretty sure i have 373 gears...and wat would switching my 70 mm tb to 65 do?.
for that setup, switching from a 65mm to 70mm TB is not going to really do anything for you..
not a lot but every little bit counts

spending a couple 100 dollars on something that will give you no beneficial power makes no sense...

Posted by partsbob67 (Member # 8836) on :

how did you install the cam? if it is installed retarded it would be low on bottom end power.

Posted by Big block 66 f100 (Member # 8867) on :

quote:
Originally posted by East Bay 50:

quote:
Originally posted by Big block 66 f100:

quote:
Originally posted by East Bay 50:

quote:
Originally posted by trickflow211:
17 inch cobras and i juss got some like nittos but they have like 50% tread. and i am pretty sure i have 373 gears...and wat would switching my 70 mm tb to 65 do?.
for that setup, switching from a 65mm to 70mm TB is not going to really do anything for you..
not a lot but every little bit counts
spending a couple 100 dollars on something that will give you no beneficial power makes no sense...

if you read my post right you will see that i said you should find someone with a 65 and TRADE them

Posted by trickflow211 (Member # 8503) on :

i checked the fuel pressure and its fine. its also miss firing but i juss installed new plugs and wires. i hooked it up 2 a diagnostic machine at my school and it threw up some codes. and its running lean ass hell! help please!

Posted by 2SIK GT (Member # 3381) on :

SOUNDS LIKE A maf sensor problem one of my customers cars where doing that and it yurned out to be his mass air meter it wasnt ran into the fenderwall and it was sucking in hot air from the motor and was running like crap it also could be the timing to maybe really retarted thats what i think

Posted by Adam5.0 (Member # 6995) on :

did you unplug the spout connector when you set the timming?

Posted by trickflow211 (Member # 8503) on :

ya i removed thattt...and how would i fix that maf problem?.

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