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Posted by jmcclesk (Member # 1355) on :
 
I understand that several people are doing this. Is there any web sites that detail this??
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
yes, it is www.iamtostupidtobuildafastford.com

[ November 14, 2008, 04:59 PM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
 
Posted by jayl (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
yes, it is <a href="http://www.iamtostupidtobuildafastford.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.iamtostupidtobuildafastford.com</a>
69 Mustang 408 Dart IE block, F2 Cog drive ( not finished yet )
[Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
Tons on LS1mustang.com

Tons in the hybrid section at ls1tech.com

Our own member eastoaklandss has a running one with a LQ9 motor in it

Turbomustangs in the SBC/BBC/LS forum
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jayl:
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
yes, it is <a href="http://www.iamtostupidtobuildafastford.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.iamtostupidtobuildafastford.com</a>
69 Mustang 408 Dart IE block, F2 Cog drive ( not finished yet )
[Roll Eyes]
91 street driven mustang runs 10's passes smog. Did you forget that one?

[ November 14, 2008, 06:14 PM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
yes, it is <a href="http://www.iamtostupidtobuildafastford.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">www.iamtostupidtobuildafastford.com</a>
It would actually be "http://www.Iamtoostupidtobuildafastford.com"

The error being "to" rather than "too"

That being said, it would still be a fast ford vehicle, but with a GM based engine.

Oh and I am in the middle of converting over to an LS based GM LQ9 6.0L.

But my mustang is still a ford, Mike [Smile]


Later.

Dan

[ November 14, 2008, 06:19 PM: Message edited by: turbo50 ]
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
It was a joke, and sorry about your luck converting over. And correction your mustang will now be junk...in many people eyes lol..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xax1SZhv5R8

I know it isn't a LS but you get the picture.

[ November 14, 2008, 06:31 PM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
 
Posted by 68dustin (Member # 5388) on :
 
i think its kinda cool and custom...especially eastoaklands coversion. so thats one less person to think of it as junk....
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
you kids are just not hard core anything anymore I guess.

To me having to put a GM engine in a ford admits you are not good enough to make a Ford fast. So you fall in with the sheep. I have always been good enough. That is just my Opinion. I grew up in a chevy verses ford era..nascar was still cool. prostock was factory sponsored...now nascar sucks, car of tommorow wtf is that?? No fords in prostock? hell they do not even keep score in little leage any more until your 10 lol. thats why the youth in this country today are soft always take the easy way out.

there since I am now officaly a grandpa I can start posting like one now lol.

[ November 14, 2008, 06:50 PM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
 
Posted by 68dustin (Member # 5388) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
you kids are just not hard core anything anymore I guess.

To me having to put a GM engine in a ford admits you are not good enough to make a Ford fast. So you fall in with the sheep. I have always been good enough. That is just my Opinion. I grew up in a chevy verses ford era..nascar was still cool. prostock was factory sponsored...now nascar sucks, car of tommorow wtf is that?? No fords in prostock? hell they do not even keep score in little leage any more until your 10 lol. thats why the youth in this country today are soft always take the easy way out.

there since I am now officaly a grandpa I can start posting like one now lol.
lol..the way things are heading down the dumper, im going to laugh if ford and gm merge...
 
Posted by gtowned (Member # 8156) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
you kids are just not hard core anything anymore I guess.

To me having to put a GM engine in a ford admits you are not good enough to make a Ford fast.
are you serious.what about people wanting to go fast on a budget.what about someone who has a motor sitting around.i think youre scared of being beat by a mostly stock lsx swapped fox handing it to your heavily modded ford powered mustang

[ November 14, 2008, 07:14 PM: Message edited by: gtowned ]
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
bring it...I wish I had a dollar for everytime somebody like you has spouted something like that. I could afford a ls1 to modify then. Why should I be scared of something that has never happened? As far as budjet goes my last 5.0 cost me 5 dollars? The only parts new in my 91 are the rotating assy, trans assy. and a few odds and ends all the rest is ebay or used parts board. If you spend allot of money building a ford that is your own fault.

[ November 14, 2008, 08:12 PM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 68dustin:
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
you kids are just not hard core anything anymore I guess.

To me having to put a GM engine in a ford admits you are not good enough to make a Ford fast. So you fall in with the sheep. I have always been good enough. That is just my Opinion. I grew up in a chevy verses ford era..nascar was still cool. prostock was factory sponsored...now nascar sucks, car of tommorow wtf is that?? No fords in prostock? hell they do not even keep score in little leage any more until your 10 lol. thats why the youth in this country today are soft always take the easy way out.

there since I am now officaly a grandpa I can start posting like one now lol.
lol..the way things are heading down the dumper, im going to laugh if ford and gm merge...
hmmmmmm as I scratch my head...this would present a real problem then lol.
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
Its just a matter of personal tastes.

I am just an all around car guy.

I can show you at least 5 single turbo stock longblock LS swap mustangs in the low 10s high 9s.

I got my longblock and harness for what you paid for your pro 1 heads.
 
Posted by 1SLOWLX (Member # 558) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
Its just a matter of personal tastes.

I am just an all around car guy.

I can show you at least 5 single turbo stock longblock LS swap mustangs in the low 10s high 9s.

I got my longblock and harness for what you paid for your pro 1 heads.
Pro 1 are expensive but badass [worship]
 
Posted by 9svtcobra8 (Member # 8408) on :
 
BEST OF BOTH WORLDS!!!!!
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 1SLOWLX:
quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
Its just a matter of personal tastes.

I am just an all around car guy.

I can show you at least 5 single turbo stock longblock LS swap mustangs in the low 10s high 9s.

I got my longblock and harness for what you paid for your pro 1 heads.
Pro 1 are expensive but badass [worship]
I won't argue that, they are expensive but you get what you pay for.

They belong on 8 second cars, not 10 second cars.
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
Its just a matter of personal tastes.

I am just an all around car guy.

I can show you at least 5 single turbo stock longblock LS swap mustangs in the low 10s high 9s.

I got my longblock and harness for what you paid for your pro 1 heads.
lol I doubt it I told you I never buy anything for top dollar [Wink] By the way the car with the Pro 1's will make my 91 look like a escort..lol

I run GT40 aluminum heads(ebay) on my 91,street heat intake(used corral) and some mac shorties...plus other used odds and ends.

[ November 15, 2008, 07:07 AM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
I only did the swap because I have very little money to spend and I needed to spend wisely.

Dollar for dollar the LS 6.0L swap with a single turbo was the way to go, hands down.

With good pistons some ARP rod bolts better valve springs and pushrods and this motor will go low 9s with boost in the proper chassis. And I will not have to worry about a hand grenade.

No way would I get that with a production windsor longblock.

Dan
 
Posted by phildog (Member # 1214) on :
 
I'm all for a LS swap. The only reason I put in Ford motors is because that is what I'm comfortable with, and have mountains of parts if, (cough), when something breaks. I have a Datsun with a 5.0, and a heavily modded SVO with a Windsor. I could care less about keeping something original.

The car that really needs to be built is a Fox Mustang with an EVO or WRX drivetrain: AWD, turbo 4 banger, the works. Do that swap, and you have something to talk about.

My ultimate revenge will be a 3rd gen Nova or an Elco/Chevelle with a Ford in it!
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by turbo50:
I only did the swap because I have very little money to spend and I needed to spend wisely.

Dollar for dollar the LS 6.0L swap with a single turbo was the way to go, hands down.

With good pistons some ARP rod bolts better valve springs and pushrods and this motor will go low 9s with boost in the proper chassis. And I will not have to worry about a hand grenade.

No way would I get that with a production windsor longblock.

Dan
well lots of other people can..and have with a SBF
 
Posted by jayl (Member # 185) on :
 
are you really comparing block vs block 6.0 to 351w for integrity? Have you seen some of the LS drag radial cars with iron block setups? No they dont pass emissions or run 10s, but even you might like them! Sure they push water sometimes, but at 1600hp on a stock 6.0 block and ls1 cranks, thats a fuckin give and take i could live with!

[ November 15, 2008, 01:21 PM: Message edited by: jayl ]
 
Posted by Just a lx (Member # 7036) on :
 
heres one http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-hybrids/829092-lsx-87-fox.html

I was gonna do it but instead sold the notch and bought a camaro
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Just a lx:
I was gonna do it but instead sold the notch and bought a camaro
+1 [Big Grin] the way it should be

http://www.blackx.enormouslysideways.net/Neils%20turbo%20fox1.wmv

are friken kidding me lol what a turd. yes I agree well worth all the mods lol 11.53. My 5.0 stock block ,SQ trim would have stomped a hole in that thing. thanks for the link lol

[ November 15, 2008, 03:57 PM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
Maybe not a good link but here is a link to a production 6.0L block build up.


However, here is a link to a production longblock 5.3 (not as good as the 6.0L) in your favorite car (a Ford Fairmont)

It went 9.3s with a production longblock.

Show me the mustang doing that with a production LONGBLOCK, not a production shortblock ie Norman Chang style.

I think even the first pass at 9.9 is faster than you SQ car.

I know you have something for that ass with your 408 IE blocked Dart Pro 1 headed F2 blown SBF, but you gotta give it up to the motor from something as simple as my family 2003 suburban?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk9uU_3VHT0
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
nope.. not when you can do the same with a 5.4 4 valve mod motor. Ford truck motor lol. drop it in a stang add the same turbo yehaw...My 408 is alot more spendy then what you mentioned..in the same car it would probably knock a second off the times you mentioned. Don't take my word for it go look up procharged 408's in foxes they have hit the 7's
 
Posted by jayl (Member # 185) on :
 
lets see the link to the 5.4 4valve going faster in stock form? right now please. thanks! 4valve truck motor? you mean truck as in SUV ? get it straight dude......you are a hard headed jackass. Nothing wrong with going fast, no matter what route.
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by jayl:
lets see the link to the 5.4 4valve going faster in stock form? right now please. thanks! 4valve truck motor? you mean truck as in SUV ? get it straight dude......you are a hard headed jackass. Nothing wrong with going fast, no matter what route.
look it up your self douche bag. You say jump I am suposed to jump ? I could care less if you ever post on any threads I am on. I do not know you, I do not respect your opinion so what you say really is wasted space on the forum...if you can not figure out what a "truck" is I am sorry.

[ November 16, 2008, 11:47 PM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
 
Posted by jayl (Member # 185) on :
 
best of luck with your setup. no hard feelings asshat! [Roll Eyes] [dance]

see you at the track
 
Posted by turbo50 (Member # 6700) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
nope.. not when you can do the same with a 5.4 4 valve mod motor. Ford truck motor lol. drop it in a stang add the same turbo yehaw...My 408 is alot more spendy then what you mentioned..in the same car it would probably knock a second off the times you mentioned. Don't take my word for it go look up procharged 408's in foxes they have hit the 7's
Tho it is a truck motor the 5.4 4 valve motor is for one a HUGE bitch to put into a fox chassis and they are not cheap when it comes to junkyard motors.

Call up LQK and 6.0L longblock is 1100. That same place for a 5.4L is over 2000.

Also,

The 408 windsor, which I LOVE dearly, is a known performer with the correct block and rotating assembly, but the aftermarket LS blocks and rotating assemblies are going 7s on a radial.

Just ask Dave Bowman, I am sure you know who that is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugsLDjrXGIA
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
which is my point why change?. For what you are paying for your swap you could find a used aftermarket windsor block. You are already buying a used LSX so whats the difference?

I am not saying a LSX engine is bad...I am just Saying keep it in a chevy where it belongs. Heck 302 based aftermarket turbo strokers are going 7's on radials....

jayl did you say something stupid again?......

[ November 17, 2008, 07:18 PM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
 
Posted by jayl (Member # 185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 2stangs69-91:
jayl did you say something stupid again?......
Nope I leave that to you.
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
[Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :
 
Save the BS chat for Streetracing. [Wink] And 2stangs...finish your damn car already. [patriot]
 




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