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Posted by lsxoo7 (Member # 8587) on :
 
well im already at h/c/i and a lil bit of bottle but now im looking to get into the FI game ..

would like to get a kenn bell roots style blower
or maybe a vortech or procharger..

going to have about 2-3k to spend .. which would be best of the 2 or ohers ?looking for about 400+ rwhp at higher boost after my fuel upgrades ..

i knw theres alot of options so im just looking for ideal and what to stay away from .

info plz !
 
Posted by lsxoo7 (Member # 8587) on :
 
any info on this trubo kit ??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Treadstone-MUSTANG-TURBO-KIT-5-0-302-87-93-Intercooler_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a543Q7c39Q3a1Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2 ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem350110407854QQitemZ350110407854
 
Posted by jaejae (Member # 7958) on :
 
buy the kenne bell with the cobra lower on the for sale section..
 
Posted by lsxoo7 (Member # 8587) on :
 
thats what im looking to get right now .. hope he still has it by the weekend anyone wanna buy a 95 gt vert ?
 
Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on :
 
This would be a good setup

http://www.californiafords.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=057181#000000
 
Posted by lsxoo7 (Member # 8587) on :
 
i seen that blower for sale a while ago how much power will that make with my set up ?

about 8-10 lbs ?

stock 302 b cam edelbrock rpm 2 long tubes and gt40 heads for now and 24lbs inj ?
 
Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lsxoo7:
i seen that blower for sale a while ago how much power will that make with my set up ?

about 8-10 lbs ?

stock 302 b cam edelbrock rpm 2 long tubes and gt40 heads for now and 24lbs inj ?
I would guess somewhere around 340-360 at the wheels on 8 pounds of boost. The heads are most likely gonna hold you back. Also, you will need to go with larger injectors if you boost your car.
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
Bassed on the number of fast street cars on this site with Vortech S or SQ trim blowers on them I would go that route. I call "street cars" people who can go drive there car on 300 mile round trips put 10,000 miles a year on them and possibly run 10's or 11's fast. Some people consider street cars anything with wheel on them that can drive 5 miles to a drag strip. Thats cool but thats not what I am talking about. OH yeah they are also smog legal. I bolt the cats on mine make a few adjustments change oil and plugs and passed the smog inspection with no 3 min cat warmup. That is actualy the best part..lol

[ October 20, 2008, 06:24 PM: Message edited by: 2stangs69-91 ]
 
Posted by lsxoo7 (Member # 8587) on :
 
yeah i been thinking about the wortech wich is best for say low 400rwhp ..

s trim sounds good anything bigger ?

anyone knw any for sale ?

and how big of inj will i need for the 8-10 lbs ? what can a stock short block take in boost ?

im getting a pair of edelbroks so im sure the gt40s wnt be on the car for too long .
 
Posted by jordan_0806 (Member # 5888) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lsxoo7:
any info on this trubo kit ??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Treadstone-MUSTANG-TURBO-KIT-5-0-302-87-93-Intercooler_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a543Q7c39Q3a1Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2 ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem350110407854QQitemZ350110407854
that's actually a good turbo and decent intercooler on that kit....be interested in how it performs....especially for only $2500
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lsxoo7:
yeah i been thinking about the wortech wich is best for say low 400rwhp ..

s trim sounds good anything bigger ?

anyone knw any for sale ?

and how big of inj will i need for the 8-10 lbs ? what can a stock short block take in boost ?

im getting a pair of edelbroks so im sure the gt40s wnt be on the car for too long .
s-trims can go 500+ rear wheel hp
I would go at least 42 lb injectors if not bigger
bummer about turbos is the smog issue. Unles you do not need to smog it, or don't mind paying the extra money for the illegal hook up.
 
Posted by 514 Mullet (Member # 7402) on :
 
S trims are nice. Have nice brackets that allow access to simple things, and last pretty much forever if you treat them right. Plus they tap into your engines oil supply. Which is 100 times better than a self contained blower. Novi 1000-2000's are supposed to be nice too although I have never used them. Incons are a legal turbo and the best power adder I have seen for a foxbody. Also the most expensive and most time consuming to install.

But if your looking for 400rwhp, an S trim will easily do that with H/C/I. You wont be making the blower work hard either. Not to mention its an easy install and they can be picked up for under 2k used.

[ October 22, 2008, 01:58 PM: Message edited by: 514 Mullet ]
 
Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :
 
I thought that they didn't make icons anymore and have not for along time? I guess ther are probably a few used ones around.
 
Posted by lsxoo7 (Member # 8587) on :
 
im realllly looking at the treadstone performance turbo kit 2400 and all u need is the bov and boost control and ur own fuel set up ..

http://www.treadstoneperformance.com/product.phtml?p=181&phot_key=464

2700 for the turbonetics 72 and upgraded intercooler not bad . does anyone knwo of anyone with on of these kits ?
 
Posted by jmcclesk (Member # 1355) on :
 
Novi 2000 with e cam ford gt-40 alumium heads stock pullies with ALL the smog trimmings 405hp.to the rear wheels. PS that was with STOCK intake.
 
Posted by lsxoo7 (Member # 8587) on :
 
theres toooo many options !! lol ill see what i ge the better deal on . i might have it doen by this weekend !
 
Posted by lsxoo7 (Member # 8587) on :
 
well i just got a good deal for a brand new novi 2000 race version .


will this be better than a s trim on 14-15lbs ??
 
Posted by 70mach351 (Member # 7528) on :
 
yes, i believe the s trim will max out around 15 psi. The novi 2000 should be good to 20 something psi
 
Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lsxoo7:
well i just got a good deal for a brand new novi 2000 race version .


will this be better than a s trim on 14-15lbs ??
Yes the inlet temp's will be lower with the novi at that boost level.
 
Posted by lsxoo7 (Member # 8587) on :
 
decision decisions !! well im not looking to go crazy 450-500rwhp will be my limit on this car ..

i got another faster car that i need to start showing sum attention to .

so novi2000 > vortech s trim ?
 
Posted by jordan_0806 (Member # 5888) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lsxoo7:
decision decisions !! well im not looking to go crazy 450-500rwhp will be my limit on this car ..

i got another faster car that i need to start showing sum attention to .

so novi2000 > vortech s trim ?
the 2000 is for a high HP application....plenty of people are making super reliable HP on an S-trim...

both of my cars are S-trim vehicles...I'm sure my daily makes somewhere around 330-340RW on stock heads and cam with 10 psi an methanol...
 
Posted by lsxoo7 (Member # 8587) on :
 
well then its coming down to who get a hold of me first cause both seller aint answering there phones at the moment !!
 
Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lsxoo7:
decision decisions !! well im not looking to go crazy 450-500rwhp will be my limit on this car ..

i got another faster car that i need to start showing sum attention to .

so novi2000 > vortech s trim ?
vortech s trim =680hp- 20# boost- 1000cfm
novi 2000= 980hp - 27# boost- 1400cfm
So the novi has alot of room to grow into but vortech is known for it's reliability. If prices were equal I would take the novi. I love My vortech but am already at it's limit's.
 
Posted by jordan_0806 (Member # 5888) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by SmokinLX:
quote:
Originally posted by lsxoo7:
decision decisions !! well im not looking to go crazy 450-500rwhp will be my limit on this car ..

i got another faster car that i need to start showing sum attention to .

so novi2000 > vortech s trim ?
vortech s trim =680hp- 20# boost- 1000cfm
novi 2000= 980hp - 27# boost- 1400cfm
So the novi has alot of room to grow into but vortech is known for it's reliability. If prices were equal I would take the novi. I love My vortech but am already at it's limit's.
true...very true...

if you get them for the same price, then get the Novi
 
Posted by lsxoo7 (Member # 8587) on :
 
the novi is almost 700$ difference but its also a brand new kit . hmmm ..
 
Posted by SmokinLX (Member # 1684) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by lsxoo7:
the novi is almost 700$ difference but its also a brand new kit . hmmm ..
If You have the money then it's a no brainer [patriot] .
 
Posted by lsxoo7 (Member # 8587) on :
 
yup no brainer found one close for cheaper if he accepts my offer then ill have one tomorrow
 




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