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Posted by BlowN67 (Member # 4229) on :
 
Need to know how set or check timing on a 2003 2.3l pzev ford focus. thanx JOHN
 
Posted by badazlx (Member # 4899) on :
 
pull off the timing belt cover and line the marks up.
 
Posted by BlowN67 (Member # 4229) on :
 
sounds to easy.
 
Posted by badazlx (Member # 4899) on :
 
well there is no dizzy only a coil pack and cam sensor for timing, so you just pull the cover off and turn the motor till the timing marks line up, if the car is a manual the previous owner could have beat it up and banged gears to the point where the belt will skip a tooth and runrough or throw a check engine light on for being advance or retarded timing, see it alot with the hondas lol.
 
Posted by BlowN67 (Member # 4229) on :
 
any help i need my car fixed. where blue oval when u need him.
 
Posted by badazlx (Member # 4899) on :
 
whats it doing? check engine light on?
 
Posted by BlowN67 (Member # 4229) on :
 
CEL an pinging under normal driving.
 
Posted by BlowN67 (Member # 4229) on :
 
i hope the chilton book shows timing for a 2.3l 2003 pzev motor
 
Posted by 93ReefBlue5.0 (Member # 5780) on :
 
the timing isn't adjustable... have you pulled the codes yet? post em up..
 
Posted by BlowN67 (Member # 4229) on :
 
i dont have a de-coder. so how wouldi be able to get the codes?
 
Posted by fasthatch (Member # 7277) on :
 
john i have the stuff you need it just beeb crazy for the last week i should be able to come out wed am i will call in the am
 
Posted by MustangNate (Member # 4559) on :
 
There's really no excuse to not getting the codes. If you drive it, which I assume you are, you can drive it to AutoZone and they will run the codes on it for you free.
 
Posted by BlowN67 (Member # 4229) on :
 
this is the first time eevery finding out how to get the codes. I'm a newb be gentle [Eek!]
 
Posted by MustangNate (Member # 4559) on :
 
Hey sorry man, wasn't meaning to sound like a dick or anything. Take her to AutoZone or Advanced or something and they can run the codes for ya. [Smile]
 
Posted by BlowN67 (Member # 4229) on :
 
that sounds easy enough.
 
Posted by badazlx (Member # 4899) on :
 
it might be a timing advanced too far code. or something related to it.
 
Posted by Joooestang66 (Member # 2828) on :
 
Post up the DTC's and I will tell you whats going on.
 
Posted by BlowN67 (Member # 4229) on :
 
I'm new so whats DTC's..

also cant complain to much with my areodynamics way of with no pass headlight,fender, an front bumper still pulling off 30mpg. just want to get the CEL off an pinging to stop, its got to be something simple. so i'm with badazlx,fasthatch being timing is off to much.
 
Posted by 93ReefBlue5.0 (Member # 5780) on :
 
DTC = diagnostic trouble code, one is set when faults are detected.... get the car scanned, post up the code(s) you get an we can go from there....

[ July 17, 2008, 04:15 PM: Message edited by: 93ReefBlue5.0 ]
 
Posted by Joooestang66 (Member # 2828) on :
 
The timing isn't adjustable, cannot be adjusted. That engine does not use a timing belt, it has a timing chain. It's nearly impossible for a timing chain to skip a tooth. Get your DTC's pulled, if I were to take a guess I'd say it's running lean due to a vacuum leak.
 
Posted by badazlx (Member # 4899) on :
 
a timing chain? are you sure?

[ July 17, 2008, 11:36 PM: Message edited by: badazlx ]
 
Posted by badazlx (Member # 4899) on :
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by badazlx:
[QB] i stand corrected in the 2.3 they do use timing chains, the rest use belts
 
Posted by BlowN67 (Member # 4229) on :
 
p2004 which is INTAKE MANIFOLD CONTROL STUCK OPEN.

p2008

codes
 
Posted by BlowN67 (Member # 4229) on :
 
p2008 imrc output elec check

p2004 imrc stuck open elec operated
 
Posted by Joooestang66 (Member # 2828) on :
 
Check your IMRC (intake manifold runner control). The small rod that connects the motor to the butterflys in the intake manifold have plastic grommets that can break and the rod comes loose. If thats ok disconnect the rod and turn the butteryfly lever by hand, it should have a little tension to it. If it is sticking/binding then there's your problem. If the butteryflys move without binding then your IMRC motor probably went bad. Check your e-mail also.
 
Posted by BlowN67 (Member # 4229) on :
 
Ok update...

got the codes cleared. but still making the same noise pinging under normal daily driving. two tanks of gas been through it..

what about running SEAFOAM through the vacumm tubes or through gas?
 
Posted by Blind (Member # 3052) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BlowN67:
Ok update...

got the codes cleared. but still making the same noise pinging under normal daily driving. two tanks of gas been through it..

what about running SEAFOAM through the vacumm tubes or through gas?
did you fix the cause, or just clear the codes?
 
Posted by BlowN67 (Member # 4229) on :
 
i switched the vacumm tubes that might have been the cause of the problems. but made it sound worse, an codes came back on. so i switched it back, but sounded not so bad. an codes didnt come back. now sounds as bad as day one but no codes. should i disconnect the battery an see if the codes come back again.
 
Posted by Joooestang66 (Member # 2828) on :
 
I emailed you a .pdf from the workshop manual to show you what to look for. If that IMRC solenoid is sticking or that arm is busted, clearing the DTC's and using Seafoam won't fix that.
 
Posted by BlowN67 (Member # 4229) on :
 
i thought that the seafoam might clean off any gunk around the butterflies. i never did seafoam before so i might be just looking for a cover up or mis leading myself on what its used for.

i switched the two vacumms on the front of the intake where there is two smaller sensors for the two imrc easier to switch the vacumm there instaed at the diwn under the throttle body an back side..
that one control rod deal in the first pic u sent actually pulled shut. so i know the diaphram works, maybe its the sensor thats on the top/front of intake that could be causing all this i have one spare i'm going to try an change it out.

also before when i cleared the codes they always came back on. so its not that i just cleared the code an thought the problem went away. i thought when i switched the vacumms at the sensor that it might have help uncloged something an thats why it didnt come back on.

my cell number is in sig maybe u shed some light on the subject. when ever u get a chance thanx JOHN
 
Posted by BlowN67 (Member # 4229) on :
 
also forgot to bring up that i'm have issues with part throttle driving as well. kinda of like a hicup mainly in 3,4,5 gears
 




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