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Posted by Jared (Member # 5405) on
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Hey guys i ran into a little problem with my 89 5.0... I am trying to get rid of it and needed to smog it and have non of the stock parts for it. so i took it to a shop and they wanted to charge me i think 1k-1.5k to smog my car and i dont want to dump that kind of money in it right before i sell it.
Are you able to sell the car un smogged in california and if you are able to are there any down falls to it besides not being able to get as much out of it. Any help will be greatly appreaciated Thank you..
Posted by 7-Up Man (Member # 8345) on
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The answer to your question is sort of. Legally you as the seller are 100% responsible for getting the car smogged as far as DMV and California is concerned. Now the buyer may be willing to take the car unsmogged and do the work themselves to make it work. You may find someone who has another Mustang and can swap the needed parts to make the smog work.
Also I have heard many times you may get as much if not more for your car if you part out the valuable parts then take the car shell to the junk yard and cut it into 4 pieces.
So I hope this helps.
Posted by Blind (Member # 3052) on
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register the car non-op and sell it "for parts"
Posted by Jared (Member # 5405) on
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If i do that where do i point out that im selling it for parts, in the bill of sale?
Posted by Blind (Member # 3052) on
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Originally posted by Jared:
If i do that where do i point out that im selling it for parts, in the bill of sale?
yes, and the original ad if you are advertising it in print or online.
I'd suggest keeping copies of everything as well, and making sure you get the buyer to sign the bill of sale that states it as for parts, with non-op reg.
btw, I can't think of anything that would cost $1500 for getting a 5.0 to pass smog, if you need new cats I'm sure you could find an h-pipe used for $50, and you can replace every sensor on the engine + both o2 sensors for under $200
Posted by aj5.0916 (Member # 7968) on
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fuck it do a under the table smog for a like 2 hun and keep it movin
Posted by MustangNate (Member # 4559) on
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Ofcourse, if you non-op it and sell it for "parts". The person that buys it then will end up with a salvage title.
It's a shame that California has to be so fucked up when it comes to things like that.
Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on
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Originally posted by Blind:
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Originally posted by Jared:
If i do that where do i point out that im selling it for parts, in the bill of sale?
yes, and the original ad if you are advertising it in print or online.
I'd suggest keeping copies of everything as well, and making sure you get the buyer to sign the bill of sale that states it as for parts, with non-op reg.
btw, I can't think of anything that would cost $1500 for getting a 5.0 to pass smog, if you need new cats I'm sure you could find an h-pipe used for $50, and you can replace every sensor on the engine + both o2 sensors for under $200
Exactly, what parts are you missing? Stock smog parts can be had for next to nothing here on this site. Your best bet it to try and put it back to smog legal status before selling it. If you can't do the work yourself there are people on this board who do side jobs. Selling it w/o smog is a real pain in the ass.
Posted by 1SLOWLX (Member # 558) on
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what mods are on it? Why won't it pass? How much do you want for it I don't care about smog
Posted by Jared (Member # 5405) on
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currently it has
Typhoon Upper / lower polished intake manifold
Typhoon polished 70mm TB
BBK Fenderwall CAI
C%L 73mm MAF
BBK Underdrive pUlleys
BBK Shorty Unequal length headesr
BBK Xpipe hallowed out cats
Single chamber flows w/ dumps
Tokico SHocks / struts / 2 in lowering springs
Blue Oval Upper / lower control arms
3.55's
Stage 2 centerforce clutch
UPR shifter handle
Sony speakers back / front and deck
17x9 saleen replica rims
autogage tachometer
tinted windows
car has a clean title i just want to get 3k for it i dont wanna part it out or anything. car's been sitting in my front yard for about a year and a half and i just got a ticket for it not being registered so i just wanna get rid of it.
Posted by kingmoochr (Member # 5834) on
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thats bullshit, if it wasnt on the road it doesnt need to be registered. private property is just that, private. fight that bitch in court
Posted by Jared (Member # 5405) on
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sorry i didnt clarify. It was sitting on the street infront of my house.
Posted by 1FAST89GT (Member # 5071) on
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Originally posted by MustangNate:
Ofcourse, if you non-op it and sell it for "parts". The person that buys it then will end up with a salvage title.
It's a shame that California has to be so fucked up when it comes to things like that.
that is not true
Posted by Jdub07 (Member # 2728) on
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Originally posted by 1FAST89GT:
quote:
Originally posted by MustangNate:
Ofcourse, if you non-op it and sell it for "parts". The person that buys it then will end up with a salvage title.
It's a shame that California has to be so fucked up when it comes to things like that.
that is not true
hahaha so not true...
Also dude sellin car....don't give up now! Keep the car.
Posted by Blind (Member # 3052) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Jared:
currently it has
Typhoon Upper / lower polished intake manifold
Typhoon polished 70mm TB
BBK Fenderwall CAI
C%L 73mm MAF
BBK Underdrive pUlleys
BBK Shorty Unequal length headesr
BBK Xpipe hallowed out cats
Single chamber flows w/ dumps
Tokico SHocks / struts / 2 in lowering springs
Blue Oval Upper / lower control arms
3.55's
Stage 2 centerforce clutch
UPR shifter handle
Sony speakers back / front and deck
17x9 saleen replica rims
autogage tachometer
tinted windows
car has a clean title i just want to get 3k for it i dont wanna part it out or anything. car's been sitting in my front yard for about a year and a half and i just got a ticket for it not being registered so i just wanna get rid of it.
it would seem your car would pass smog with $300 worth of parts and labor to me, a used stock h-pipe with good cats, and an hour to swap it in.
Posted by jaejae (Member # 7958) on
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post some pics of it...im kind of interested..
Posted by Jared (Member # 5405) on
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dont got to many pics of it atm. interior is in pretty good condition
[ April 22, 2008, 06:21 PM: Message edited by: Jared ]
Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on
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Originally posted by Blind:
quote:
Originally posted by Jared:
currently it has
Typhoon Upper / lower polished intake manifold
Typhoon polished 70mm TB
BBK Fenderwall CAI
C%L 73mm MAF
BBK Underdrive pUlleys
BBK Shorty Unequal length headesr
BBK Xpipe hallowed out cats
Single chamber flows w/ dumps
Tokico SHocks / struts / 2 in lowering springs
Blue Oval Upper / lower control arms
3.55's
Stage 2 centerforce clutch
UPR shifter handle
Sony speakers back / front and deck
17x9 saleen replica rims
autogage tachometer
tinted windows
car has a clean title i just want to get 3k for it i dont wanna part it out or anything. car's been sitting in my front yard for about a year and a half and i just got a ticket for it not being registered so i just wanna get rid of it.
it would seem your car would pass smog with $300 worth of parts and labor to me, a used stock h-pipe with good cats, and an hour to swap it in.
He's also gonna have to ditch the breather and put a stock air box on there too.. but that's not a big deal.. can't tell if it still has the smog pump or not ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
Posted by Jared (Member # 5405) on
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Ya theres no smog pump on it aswell. its lying in my garage.
[ April 22, 2008, 07:03 PM: Message edited by: Jared ]
Posted by Jared (Member # 5405) on
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Originally posted by 1FAST89GT:
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Originally posted by MustangNate:
Ofcourse, if you non-op it and sell it for "parts". The person that buys it then will end up with a salvage title.
It's a shame that California has to be so fucked up when it comes to things like that.
that is not true
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also does anyone know where i can verify this information?
Posted by jaejae (Member # 7958) on
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if i sell my coupe i might buy this from you..
Posted by harley56 (Member # 6731) on
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Originally posted by Jared:
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Originally posted by 1FAST89GT:
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Originally posted by MustangNate:
Ofcourse, if you non-op it and sell it for "parts". The person that buys it then will end up with a salvage title.
It's a shame that California has to be so fucked up when it comes to things like that.
that is not true
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also does anyone know where i can verify this information?
You can ask the DMV, but ask 3 people the same question and you may get 3 different answers. Anyway, non-op does not affect the title, as stated by others,no way does it become salvage. You need to clearly state on a receipt, bill of sale, to the buyer that they are buying a car not legal for use on California roads because it does not meet smog. Without that the new buyer can come back at you and that's not good. Don't get it smogged underground, you and place that did it can get in trouble when person goes to smog it next time around.
Posted by chevyeatr (Member # 7603) on
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pm sent
Posted by racerx7 (Member # 3370) on
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I had the same problem on my customers car. I think the dealer wanted over $700 for the factory CAI.
The BBK is not CA smog legal. Joe from
Gotelli's (650)589-8618 hooked me up with a
CA smog legal CAI. I think it was K&N.
Posted by 5.0 4rm Da510 (Member # 3793) on
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