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Posted by court (Member # 6700) on :
 
Anyone know what year was the first year for the 351 roller motor??
 
Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :
 
Late 91-early 92. Pretty easy to drill-tap-retrofit later model non-roller blocks, as long as you have the right tools...and get it right the first time.
 
Posted by court (Member # 6700) on :
 
arent there oiling issues when you run a roller tappet (stock ford) in a non roller block?
 
Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :
 
Nope, as the later-model 351w have the longer lifter bores.
 
Posted by court (Member # 6700) on :
 
hmmm didnt know that.

i have bought a keith craft custom ground 351 roller retro cam and it came with lifters, pushrods and rocker arms.

the lifters are modified ford roller motor lifters and I thought it was for oiling purposes for the non roller block (408 R block) guess not....
 
Posted by rickm347 (Member # 5323) on :
 
so you can have a roller windsor fairly easy then?? --rick

So a non roller windsor crank would work in a roller windsor then??
 
Posted by court (Member # 6700) on :
 
yeah the cranks are all the same

i guess on 351 the lifter bores are taller (late model non roller) to accomodate...from what JohnB is saying...so that is cool.
 
Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :
 
When I say later, I mean WAY later (87ish) blocks. Modifying stock lifters? Maybe to use with regular vs. retro-fit pushrods...the oiling holes are in the same place no matter what. Lifter bore determines whether or not you have to run different lifters.

quote:
Originally posted by rickm347:
So a non roller windsor crank would work in a roller windsor then??
No. One is a two-piece rear main, the later models are one piece.
 
Posted by court (Member # 6700) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by JohnB:
When I say later, I mean WAY later (87ish) blocks. Modifying stock lifters? Maybe to use with regular vs. retro-fit pushrods...the oiling holes are in the same place no matter what. Lifter bore determines whether or not you have to run different lifters.

quote:
Originally posted by rickm347:
So a non roller windsor crank would work in a roller windsor then??
No. One is a two-piece rear main, the later models are one piece.
I think you are right because the papers say something about the plunger being down 55 thousands or something.

im gonna sell this all...not worth the headache and the what if.
 
Posted by rickm347 (Member # 5323) on :
 
what all are you gonna sell??

John-i think im coming across a roller 351 this weekend (1993) and i also have a 92 351 complete from an F150 (1992). is the f150 roller?? i dont wanna disassemble it because i might sell the whole thing this weekend thanks again --rick
 
Posted by court (Member # 6700) on :
 
retro roller cam for 351 comp cams custom grind from keith craft

roller lifters and hardened pushrods for the 351

they all came in a 408 stroker with ford racing block (r block) from keith craft
 
Posted by rickm347 (Member # 5323) on :
 
were you looking for a block to put that all in?? how much were you looking to get for that stuff if you end up not wanting it?? thanks --rick
 
Posted by court (Member # 6700) on :
 
Im still up in the air about it all...ill let you know.
 
Posted by Musttanguy (Member # 2251) on :
 
First year for roller cam 351 was late 1993
You can tell if you have a roller block by the F4 part number cast into the block right above the starter
The earlier (89-early93)NON roller blocks will have an E9 casting number
 
Posted by rickm347 (Member # 5323) on :
 
very good piece of info thanks --rick
 
Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by rickm347:
John-i think im coming across a roller 351 this weekend (1993) and i also have a 92 351 complete from an F150 (1992). is the f150 roller?? i dont wanna disassemble it because i might sell the whole thing this weekend thanks again --rick
Yes, both should be roller-style blocks.
 
Posted by rickm347 (Member # 5323) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Musttanguy:
First year for roller cam 351 was late 1993
You can tell if you have a roller block by the F4 part number cast into the block right above the starter
The earlier (89-early93)NON roller blocks will have an E9 casting number
Yeah I just checked and it was an E9. the whole engine is from a 92.
 




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