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Posted by stangnut (Member # 5937) on :
 
please help me .i can't figure this thing out ! just need a good place i can take this to!any ideas.an not someone that say's change this an that.its my 5.0.
 

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Posted by losbadgts (Member # 4394) on :
 
what do u need?
 

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Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :
 
thats a very descriptive post
 

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Posted by Hungry Hippo (Member # 537) on :
 
to answer your question, he can fix it
 

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Posted by slidewayz94 (Member # 3101) on :
 
Take it to Jiffy Lube
 

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Posted by BlownNOSMustang (Member # 158) on :
 
Dump your exsisting computer. And get one with all the keys on the keyboard. That would be a start.
 

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Posted by v-town coupe (Member # 2771) on :
 
his car is being funny it has a 306 trick flow heads 24 lb injectors smallest trick flow cam rpm manifold and the car back fires and loads up but its no timing or anything like that it seems as if the car stops pulling at 3500 everything and i mean everything is new no plugged cats or anything we got the timing adjusted and fuel pressure is great and he also is using an a9 computer with the correct 24lb mass air the other day jus for the hell of it we put a 19lb mass air on for jus a few minutes didnt want to lean it out , but the car ran fucking great and the air fuel ratio meter was dead on while driving itnever ran lean but we only ran it for a few minutes due to the fact we were not sure if we were gonna harm anything! so hes asking who does everyone reccomend to take it too? they're definently gonna have to be a 5 liter guru! thanx
 

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Posted by v-town coupe (Member # 2771) on :
 
oh and btw we have adjusted fuel pressure low to the point where it wouldnt even run and from there on up to the point where its so rich ur eyes water the same problem is still there!
 

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Posted by stangnut (Member # 5937) on :
 
don't take this as offensive or anything like that.but i didn't post what was wrong.cause i'm not trin to listen to everyone's option of whats wrong with it.i been on here for a afull long time an to no avail.john b been helpin me with it.but also to no avail.he's like i don't know whats wromg with it .an i can't get him to actually keep the car to spend some time on it.i think he know's it gonna give him a head ache an so he push's me aside proably for easier money can't say i blame him on this account!no offence to him he has tried an made a effort an i trust him with my car completly, but he won't fix it or can't fix it.so here i am askin for advise to number's or place's FOR A PROFESSIONAL SHOP THAT WILL TAKE MY CAR AN FIX IT OR GIVE ME SOME REAL ANSWERS CAUSE THEY HAD TOOK A LOOK AT CAR THEMSELVES.GOT CASH! I ALREADY SPENT 1500 IN PARTS NOT INCLUDING TIME AN 50 PHONE CALLS TO JOHN B ,2 OTHER SHOPS WITH THEIR FEES ALSO NOT INCLUDED.GOTTA BE A MUSTANG GURU.NUMBERS AN ADDRESSES IS WHAT I NEED SOME LEADS TO A SHOP THAT CAN POSSIBLY HELP!THATS THE RETURN POSTS THAT I'M LOOKIN FOR!NOT JIFFY LUBE OR WHATEVER STUPID COMMENT'S I GOT EARLIER.stupid car !
 

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Posted by CDT (Member # 5004) on :
 

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Originally posted by v-town coupe:
his car is being funny it has a 306 trick flow heads 24 lb injectors smallest trick flow cam rpm manifold and the car back fires and loads up but its no timing or anything like that it seems as if the car stops pulling at 3500 everything and i mean everything is new no plugged cats or anything we got the timing adjusted and fuel pressure is great and he also is using an a9 computer with the correct 24lb mass air the other day jus for the hell of it we put a 19lb mass air on for jus a few minutes didnt want to lean it out , but the car ran fucking great and the air fuel ratio meter was dead on while driving itnever ran lean but we only ran it for a few minutes due to the fact we were not sure if we were gonna harm anything! so hes asking who does everyone reccomend to take it too? they're definently gonna have to be a 5 liter guru! thanx

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Originally posted by v-town coupe:
his car is being funny it has a 306 trick flow heads 24 lb injectors smallest trick flow cam rpm manifold and the car back fires and loads up but its no timing or anything like that it seems as if the car stops pulling at 3500 everything and i mean everything is new no plugged cats or anything we got the timing adjusted and fuel pressure is great and he also is using an a9 computer with the correct 24lb mass air the other day jus for the hell of it we put a 19lb mass air on for jus a few minutes didnt want to lean it out , but the car ran fucking great and the air fuel ratio meter was dead on while driving itnever ran lean but we only ran it for a few minutes due to the fact we were not sure if we were gonna harm anything! so hes asking who does everyone reccomend to take it too? they're definently gonna have to be a 5 liter guru! thanx

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you answered the the problem right there. if you put a 19lb MAF it should run richer not leaner. You have the wrong/bad MAF or wrong injectors.

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Bingo.

And if you drop it off at John's place and PAY him to fix it, it will be fixed instead of going for the free advice.
 

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Posted by Hungry Hippo (Member # 537) on :
 
sounds like a bad maf. running a stock maf and 24lb injectors would make your car run rich. if you really wanted to fix the problem without spending money, the stock maf and 19lb injectors would be fine
 

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Posted by stangnut (Member # 5937) on :
 
again no offence but its not a bad maf or bad injectors.i changed or replaced both with brand new.so try again.no infact just come with a number of some one that will take this issue off my hands.can i get a reference or number to some one that can actually take a look at this thing,instead of typing what u think it might be if u think u can fix it then give me a call or leave me a number.an we can do some bussiness.
 

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Posted by 88DroptopGT (Member # 2535) on :
 
So you replaced both MAF and injectors? Have you tried someone else's computer?

Checked the PCV/EGR and 10-pins?


 

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Posted by 1FAST89GT (Member # 5071) on :
 
did u try rodney?
 

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Posted by 95GTConvtACE (Member # 6399) on :
 

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Originally posted by v-town coupe:
his car is being funny it has a 306 trick flow heads 24 lb injectors smallest trick flow cam rpm manifold and the car back fires and loads up but its no timing or anything like that it seems as if the car stops pulling at 3500 everything and i mean everything is new no plugged cats or anything we got the timing adjusted and fuel pressure is great and he also is using an a9 computer with the correct 24lb mass air the other day jus for the hell of it we put a 19lb mass air on for jus a few minutes
didnt want to lean it out , but the car ran fucking great and the air fuel ratio meter was dead on while driving itnever ran lean but we only ran it for a few minutes due to the fact we were not sure if we were gonna harm anything! so hes asking who does everyone reccomend to take it too? they're definently gonna have to be a 5 liter guru! thanx

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Originally posted by stangnut:
changed pcv .disconnected all vacume brake booster even pcv all smog deleted.to no avail different commuter.all adds up to a car that sucks wee wee!somthin is makin the car run lean as hell.put a 19 mass air to cheat the commputer into rich mode and it works great! butt i got to cheat it so.why can't it be right!

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Originally posted by stangnut:
heard of the guy but aint got his number ill get virge. thanks ! who are u so i can tell u thanks personally?

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Originally posted by stangnut:
he's like i don't know whats wromg with it .an i can't get him to actually keep the car to spend some time on it.i think he know's it gonna give him a head ache an so he push's me aside proably for easier money can't say i blame him on this account!

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That's right. It's been here what, 3-4 times? I think I charged you what, $40? Something like that? A ton of phone calls. Even more suggestions. I'm attempting to save you the trip up here with it. I'm glad you took it as I was pushing you off and "it's too big of a job for me". I've dealt with MUCH worse. I do this as a service for the board members and to pay for my car, THATS IT. It is a side job, not a business.

Once and for all, it is a MAF problem. I've stated this time and again. I've asked you if you have replaced items and the answer was yes, with other used items. Stock MAF sensors are cal'd to a particular computer. I beleive you said you replaced the sensor with a new one, was it the proper cal' for the type computer you have? The specific part number?

As for not helping you out, I think you are mistaken.
 

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Posted by johnson50 (Member # 4608) on :
 
i had pretty much the same problem. bogging out, backfiring, and all that shit. i could not stand it. so i took it to california street machines and they found the problem. not mentioning how much money i spent trying to fix it but it ended up to being just a dirty MAF. thats it!!! so try cleaning out your MAF, its worth a try especialy before spending a shit load of money at some shop.
 

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Posted by SPEC -Fabrication (Member # 4980) on :
 
John he mentioned you helped him alot. He's not the very best typer, But I figured it was the C&L mass air meter and swapped to the stocker, I didnt drive it after that but I am sure it runs way better, I also set up a date for JeffS He definatly needs a chip to recognize the M/A meter and would be a great idea to try and pull some more HP outta his set-up
 

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Posted by Hungry Hippo (Member # 537) on :
 

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Originally posted by stangnut:
again no offence but its not a bad maf or bad injectors.i changed or replaced both with brand new.so try again.no infact just come with a number of some one that will take this issue off my hands.can i get a reference or number to some one that can actually take a look at this thing,instead of typing what u think it might be if u think u can fix it then give me a call or leave me a number.an we can do some bussiness.

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Originally posted by Hungry Hippo:

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Originally posted by stangnut:
again no offence but its not a bad maf or bad injectors.i changed or replaced both with brand new.so try again.no infact just come with a number of some one that will take this issue off my hands.can i get a reference or number to some one that can actually take a look at this thing,instead of typing what u think it might be if u think u can fix it then give me a call or leave me a number.an we can do some bussiness.

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your friend just said you tried a stock maf and it ran perfect. 1 + 1 = 3

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NO NEED for the Ebonics here.... This internet shit is getting OLD!

 

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Posted by johnson50 (Member # 4608) on :
 
my 88 gt had the same problem and all it was was a dirty mass air meter. thats it!!! after about 500 bucks trying to fix it. so i took it down to california street machinies and they fixed it. its a good shop but it also cost me 350 bucks just to clean the mass air meter. anyways, i know for a fact it is your MAF. clean it or go to CSM, they're in suisun.
 

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Posted by phil a (Member # 3596) on :
 
do you really want your car to be fixed? sounds like you're not taking advice being given to you. i can sympathize with you, as i have been in your position too many times, so don't take this as a personal attack. it definitely sucks having dumped too much money in parts and countless hours of your time into projects, just to have them turn out as less than you expected.

however, you're not gonna get to far coming on here and saying you don't want advice from everybody, only the experts.

go ahead and give it a shot with a known, working meter WITH the matched injectors. be sure you haven't switched (accidentally) the electronics between meters and are misled in coupling the incorrect meter/injectors.

however, i'm no expert, just a qualified layman, so please feel free to ignore my advice, as it wasn't even asked for

phil
 

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