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Posted by baggins (Member # 3957) on :

I have a 91 gt. it has a forged bottom end with 9.6 to 1 c/r. edelbrock 1.90/1.60 box stock performers and a trick flow stage 1 cam. the manifold is a gt40 and it has a 73mm c&l and a 70mm tb. 24 lb. injectors and 3.73's. the car is at full weight. any ideas on what it would run with stock suspension with street tires or with drag radials? i now its hard to say but just an approximation of what the setup is capable of.

also any ideas on a baseline to set the fuel pressure at.

thanks Nick

Posted by 92coupe (Member # 1957) on :

mid 13's, get slicks and run 12's. get it tuned, and upgrade your suspension and brakes. no sense having the power if you can't stop it.

Justin

Posted by 92coupe (Member # 1957) on :

oh yeah fuel pressure should be ok around 38-40 psi.

Justin

Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :

I'm gonna say low low 13's on slicks. The intake is a restriction.

Posted by SF Coupe (Member # 1810) on :

You have a similar combo to mine, but I'm running the stock cam. I have a 5sp coupe so I have a small weight advantage. I run low 13s on slicks, mid 13s on street tires. This is on a 160K shortblock so I'm sure I'm giving up some hp there. If you could get the 60ft in the 1.7 range you could get a high 12.

Posted by 2stangs69-91 (Member # 1951) on :

the intake is not a restriction it is a perfect match for his setup. With traction in Sac high 12's

Posted by PurpleNotch (Member # 2902) on :

id go 13's cause with my setup close to 500rwhp in my full weight coupe i only went 12.0 but that was at 120mph in 3rd gear [Big Grin]

Posted by baggins (Member # 3957) on :

this seems a litle wierd to me because my friend had a lx that had a stock 80k bottom end with a b cam and 1.7's it had the same heads as me and it had a tfs manifold,and his wasnt even geared he was hanging with a 12.20 zo6 from a 20mph roll. another friend had a stock lx with only a k&n filter and full exhaust, on street tires he ran a 13.9. i am not saying you guys are wrong but just wondering why such a high time

thanks for the replies-nick

Posted by FasterDamnit (Member # 442) on :

SAme here.

Stock 5.0 longblock, TB/MAF shorties and gears and I ran 13.3 at 102 on NItto drag radials. If you can learn how to launch and get your 60ft's down, then 12's will not be a problem (but not on street tires).

Here is how I gained .5 seonds learning how to power-shift and launch

http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2002/03/powershift/index.shtml

Into the 12's w/ Heads+Intake and stock cam, stock cat-pipe!-->

http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2002/09/gm2/index.shtml

MAC Prochamber but still stock cam, 109mph!-->
http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2002/10/mac/index.shtml

Typhoon intake, custom cam, longtubes, lots of tuning and LOTS of driving-

hit 11's.

http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2003/12/efiintake/index.shtml

[ November 24, 2005, 06:33 PM: Message edited by: FasterDamnit ]

Posted by PurpleNotch (Member # 2902) on :

damn i must suck at driving i could only pull a 12.0 with e.t. streets and 500rwhp??? [Confused]

Posted by FasterDamnit (Member # 442) on :

quote:
Originally posted by PurpleNotch:
damn i must suck at driving i could only pull a 12.0 with e.t. streets and 500rwhp???

What are your 60ft's? Both chassis setup and driving skill are a BIG part of low ET's.

Posted by Jmir018 (Member # 1414) on :

i have aluminum heads.. a really mild cam and trickflow track heat intake(also supporting mods-injectors- maf etc..). my time was 13.5 at 107.52 with a 2.07 on street tires. that was my first time driving this car and first time driving this combo too. after that i got a 13.15 at 106.4 with a 1.923. i've only gotten two runs so far [Frown]

do u think it'll be possible to hit 12s?
what should i launch at? i'll have et streets this sunday?
thanks.

[ November 24, 2005, 08:54 PM: Message edited by: Jmir018 ]

Posted by PurpleNotch (Member # 2902) on :

quote:
Originally posted by FasterDamnit:

quote:
Originally posted by PurpleNotch:
damn i must suck at driving i could only pull a 12.0 with e.t. streets and 500rwhp???
What are your 60ft's? Both chassis setup and driving skill are a BIG part of low ET's.

complete stock rear full tubular front with 90/10 and coilovers manual rack and 15x3 draglites with skinnes and 15x8 rear with a e.t. street my 60ft is a 1.7 and a .490 off the line i launched at 4800 off the line and finished through the trap at almost 120mph in 3rd gear! [Eek!]

Posted by Eagle347 (Member # 6205) on :

A 12.0 with 500wrhp?? My fiend went 12.43 with 425HP at the flywheel.

Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Eagle347:
A 12.0 with 500wrhp?? My fiend went 12.43 with 425HP at the flywheel.

And I went 11.0 with 450 at the rear....

Purplenotch, you've got to be running 3.08s (or close to that) for a gear...

Posted by PurpleNotch (Member # 2902) on :

yah i have a complete stock suspension and rear except for the fms axles prolly got like 2.73 in there or something plus i have the tremec tranny changes the gear ratio a bit and my tire size.. i think with some gears she would run a low 11. [patriot]

Posted by 90GT (Member # 3) on :

High 12's on street tires are possible with optimal conditions. If you had to put aluminum heads on a 5.O running slicks to run 13's they would be extinct.

Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 90GT:
High 12's on street tires are possible with optimal conditions.

Nope

Posted by FasterDamnit (Member # 442) on :

quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:

quote:
Originally posted by 90GT:
High 12's on street tires are possible with optimal conditions.
Nope

The Phantom has spoken, Don. But just because Scott or Drew can do it doesn't mean anyone can... [burnout]

Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :

I hear ya Jim. That car with the suspension etc will NOT POSSIBLY run 12's on street tires.

Posted by 90GT (Member # 3) on :

quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
I hear ya Jim. That car with the suspension etc will NOT POSSIBLY run 12's on street tires.

What suspension etc. would make such a feat possible?

Posted by twisted54 (Member # 1981) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 90GT:

quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
I hear ya Jim. That car with the suspension etc will NOT POSSIBLY run 12's on street tires.
What suspension etc. would make such a feat possible?

310rwhp, 3220 race weight, completely stock original suspension except for lowered springs...

12.19 @110 w 1.6 60'

Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :

quote:
Originally posted by twisted54:

quote:
Originally posted by 90GT:

quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
I hear ya Jim. That car with the suspension etc will NOT POSSIBLY run 12's on street tires.
What suspension etc. would make such a feat possible?
310rwhp, 3220 race weight, completely stock original suspension except for lowered springs...

12.19 @110 w 1.6 60'

Not regular street tires [Roll Eyes]

Posted by twisted54 (Member # 1981) on :

quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:

quote:
Originally posted by twisted54:

quote:
Originally posted by 90GT:

quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
I hear ya Jim. That car with the suspension etc will NOT POSSIBLY run 12's on street tires.
What suspension etc. would make such a feat possible?
310rwhp, 3220 race weight, completely stock original suspension except for lowered springs...

12.19 @110 w 1.6 60'
Not regular street tires

Drag Radials...

Edit: Why waste the time to go to the track with reg street tires [Confused]

[ November 25, 2005, 05:47 PM: Message edited by: twisted54 ]

Posted by PurpleNotch (Member # 2902) on :

quote:
Originally posted by twisted54:

quote:
Originally posted by 90GT:

quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
I hear ya Jim. That car with the suspension etc will NOT POSSIBLY run 12's on street tires.
What suspension etc. would make such a feat possible?
310rwhp, 3220 race weight, completely stock original suspension except for lowered springs...

12.19 @110 w 1.6 60'

nice numbers i gotta go back in the summer if i still have the car and run it again i have way more power than that i should be in the low 11's [Big Grin]

Posted by Team SOLO (Member # 722) on :

I went 12.0 with only 298.7 to the rear....

Light weight, dead hooked, and a stick [Smile]

[ November 25, 2005, 07:04 PM: Message edited by: Team SOLO ]

Posted by PurpleNotch (Member # 2902) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Team SOLO:
I went 12.0 with only 298.7 to the rear....

Light weight, dead hooked, and a stick

hmmm my car sucks! oh well we still have a 10 second 306 coupe maybe ill try a wirl at that one down the track [Big Grin]

Posted by red GT black rallyes (Member # 4495) on :

heads cam and intake in my 88 saleen did 1 run and blew the shitty t-5 out tha floor on the 2nd run, but i hit a 12.6 with a good tune and a lil more suspension i think high 11/s where there, =(

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