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Posted by CLEEN 50 (Member # 5867) on :
 
You may remember this topic from a while back. I converted to a SN-95 Front brake setup.
Parts used:
SN-95 spindles from a 95
SN-95 Calipers
Powerslot rotors
SS lines
94GT MC
18x9 saleen replica wheels (24mm offset/5.95 BS)
Front control arms from MM. Part # M-3075-A
http://maximummotorsports.com/fordcontrolarm.asp

My wheels stick out to far in the front preventing me from lowering my car. It seems like this issue is only arising on my car, as all the other cars I've checked out w/ the same wheel setup fit fine. The only think that I could think of is that MM sent me the wrong front control arms??, but after checking my invoice it states the correct part as #M-3075-A. I just can't believe that my car can be different from every other fax mustang out there.

Any suggestions, fixes, or solutions would be greatly appreciated. Would anyone be willing to trade there stock fox a-arms for my new ones? Please help as I would love to finally start driving my car. [Frown]

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Thanks [patriot]

[ May 14, 2006, 04:07 AM: Message edited by: CLEEN 50 ]
 
Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :
 
do you have any side shots of that car?
 
Posted by CLEEN 50 (Member # 5867) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by two-gun kid:
do you have any side shots of that car?

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Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
I have 17x8 bullitts with a 5.72" backspacing. That means that your rims would stick out 0.72" further on my car than my Bullitts do. If I had 18x9's with a 5.95 BS, I would expect my rims to stick out more, but not quite as far as yours are doing.

Here is a pic of how my rims stick out  -

A couple things to check.

1.) make sure you are using 94-95 spindles and not 96+ spindles. Make sure the tire rod arm on the spindle is curved.

2.) post a pic of your front control arms. I can tell visually between a 87-93 and a 94+ arm.

3.) are you sure your rims have a 5.95 BS?

4.) increasing the negative camber can make the wheel tuck more and appear to stick out less as well, but don't count too much on this option

5.) the 86 5.0 K-member (same as 87-94 4 cyl)tucks each wheel in 0.5" per side. This would be a major project, but it is just another option.

Everyone on the net says the 94-95 spindles preserve stock front track, but I have heard of a lot of people having problems with 17x9/18x9 5.95BS rims with their 94-95 spindles. Everyone I know using the Mark Vii rotors and stock spindles seems too have no problems at all with those wheels sticking out.

This is what it should look like:

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Posted by Jmir018 (Member # 1414) on :
 
that looks nice.
Is the k member on 4cyls different than the one on 5.0s? i have a 91 former 4cyl. i'm about to install the sn95 spindles. will they stick out as much as cleen 50s?
Thanks.
Jersey
 
Posted by CLEEN 50 (Member # 5867) on :
 
quote:


Everyone on the net says the 94-95 spindles preserve stock front track, but I have heard of a lot of people having problems with 17x9/18x9 5.95BS rims with their 94-95 spindles. Everyone I know using the Mark Vii rotors and stock spindles seems too have no problems at all with those wheels sticking out.

This is what it should look like:

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I was afraid someone was going to say that [Frown] . I heard that from some guy on corral.net too, but I have seen other use the SN-95 setup and it works fine. I beleive venomous99 has the same setup w/o the control arms and his wheels fit fine. Is there anyway to check the control arms w/o having to take them off, unfortunately I dont have any pics of the actual FCA's on my car [Mad] This is really pissing me off. [Mad]

Thanks

P.S. those white notches look sweet [worship] [Eek!]

[ November 02, 2005, 05:52 PM: Message edited by: CLEEN 50 ]
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
The white notch on Bullitts is mine. The notch with the Saleen's I found online.

If you jack up your car, and snap a pic of the arm for me, I'll tell you if it is a 94+ arm.

To tell you the truth, my 94 spindles and 17x8 bullitts rubbed when my car was a bit lower. I got the Bullitt springs and it raised the car 1/2 inch anmd all the rubbing went away.

If I had 9 inch 5.95BS rims with my current 94 spindles, it would rub BAD on the outer fender!!!

Are you sure about the wheel backspacing?

People on the corral should be able to help you.

For the other guy, the 4 cyl k-member will bring your wheels in 0.5" per side
 
Posted by CLEEN 50 (Member # 5867) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
The white notch on Bullitts is mine. The notch with the Saleen's I found online.

If you jack up your car, and snap a pic of the arm for me, I'll tell you if it is a 94+ arm.

To tell you the truth, my 94 spindles and 17x8 bullitts rubbed when my car was a bit lower. I got the Bullitt springs and it raised the car 1/2 inch anmd all the rubbing went away.

If I had 9 inch 5.95BS rims with my current 94 spindles, it would rub BAD on the outer fender!!!

Are you sure about the wheel backspacing?

People on the corral should be able to help you.

For the other guy, the 4 cyl k-member will bring your wheels in 0.5" per side

Positive about the BS as the replicas are only made in (18x9 24mm offset and 5.95 BS) or (18x10 24mm)

[Mad] Dammit [Mad] I do not want to switch back to my stock spindles (which I do not have, and lincoln rotors w/ the 73mm SVO calipers. What a big waste of time and money. [Mad] [Mad] [Mad]

i'll to get those pics ASAP. thanks [patriot]

[ November 02, 2005, 06:04 PM: Message edited by: CLEEN 50 ]
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
Don't give up just yet...

I have a feeling something is wrong with your set-up. You just have to figure it out.

Also, what size are your front tires? It looks like those tires are bulging quite a bit.

[ November 02, 2005, 06:17 PM: Message edited by: Luke87GT ]
 
Posted by CLEEN 50 (Member # 5867) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
Don't give up just yet...

I have a feeling something is wrong with your set-up. You just have to figure it out.

Also, what size are your front tires?

245/45 18's all around. Thanks [patriot]
 
Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
Don't give up just yet...

I have a feeling something is wrong with your set-up. You just have to figure it out.

Also, what size are your front tires? It looks like those tires are bulging quite a bit.

Before swapping stuff out why not just swap rims w/ someone else first.....you never know about those replicas [Roll Eyes] depending on who you got them from....
 
Posted by BlackNGold (Member # 655) on :
 
Good info Luke87GT [patriot]
 
Posted by cdog301 (Member # 5136) on :
 
I'm willing to bet those are 1996 or younger spindles because that is just what my car looked like when I did mine eith 1996 spindles!
We measured it and the difference is 1/2 inch just enough to make it stick out like that!
 
Posted by cdog301 (Member # 5136) on :
 
I'm willing to bet those are 1996 or younger spindles because that is just what my car looked like when I did mine eith 1996 spindles!
We measured it and the difference is 1/2 inch just enough to make it stick out like that!
by the way I used the same lower control arms that is not your problem!
 
Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
i have the 94/95 spindles on my 92 which had the fr500 9" wide with 5.95" backspacing and 245 tires. the wheels do not stick out at all and not anywhere close to cleen50s.
really odd..im hope someone figures this one out cuz it has everyone stumped
 
Posted by r3dn3ck (Member # 3192) on :
 
Did you replace the tie rods with 95+ units? I was just reading in MMFF last night that you need to use diff tie rod ends. What about the ball joint?

Anyway... Check out the latest copy of MMFF in the letters to the editor part... there's a question just like yours answered beautifully with lots of detail.

FWIW... I woudn't think that 18x9 will work up front with the updated spindles on a Fox. You might want to check on that but, I'd think the wheels would be just too damn wide no matter what.

BTW... does it look to anyone else like he's got a bit of positive camber going on?
 
Posted by CLEEN 50 (Member # 5867) on :
 
No I did not replace my tie-rods w/ 95+ units, they are the stock units. This is what MM says about the ball joints, "front control arms on 1979-93 Mustangs with improved low-friction ball joints and inner bushings". I'm guessing those are the sn-95 ball joints [Confused]

Thanks I'll be sure to pick up that mag today. [patriot] Hopefully it will shed some light on this nightmare.

[ November 03, 2005, 11:26 AM: Message edited by: CLEEN 50 ]
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
as was said above,
the first thing I would do is borrow someones 9 inch 5.95BS rims.

Get someone else's Saleen wheel, or borrows someone's 95 cobra R as they have the same backspacing and rim width. Put them on and see if they stick out the same amount.

When you are dealing with an aftermarket rim company, anything is possible. I would not be suprised if they sent you the wrong backspacing...
Luke
 
Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
as was said above,
the first thing I would do is borrow someones 9 inch 5.95BS rims.

Get someone else's Saleen wheel, or borrows someone's 95 cobra R as they have the same backspacing and rim width. Put them on and see if they stick out the same amount.

When you are dealing with an aftermarket rim company, anything is possible. I would not be suprised if they sent you the wrong backspacing...
Luke

[patriot]
 
Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
as was said above,
the first thing I would do is borrow someones 9 inch 5.95BS rims.

Get someone else's Saleen wheel, or borrows someone's 95 cobra R as they have the same backspacing and rim width. Put them on and see if they stick out the same amount.

When you are dealing with an aftermarket rim company, anything is possible. I would not be suprised if they sent you the wrong backspacing...
Luke

i dont think the wheels are the problem. i saw the rears on his and they sit just about right for a 9"(5.95) backspacing using stock length axles.
 
Posted by CLEEN 50 (Member # 5867) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by venomous99:
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
as was said above,
the first thing I would do is borrow someones 9 inch 5.95BS rims.

Get someone else's Saleen wheel, or borrows someone's 95 cobra R as they have the same backspacing and rim width. Put them on and see if they stick out the same amount.

When you are dealing with an aftermarket rim company, anything is possible. I would not be suprised if they sent you the wrong backspacing...
Luke

i dont think the wheels are the problem. i saw the rears on his and they sit just about right for a 9"(5.95) backspacing using stock length axles.
Thanks venomous99 . [patriot] I also swapped the rears and the front thinking it was the problem, but it was the same thing when I put the rear wheel up front.
[Mad] [Frown]

Looks like I'm going to have to buy some stock A-arms and swap them out to eliminate that possibility or hopefully fix the problem.

Luke87Gt do you think I you could take a look at my control arms, unfortunately my camera has now decided to break. [Mad] [Mad]

[ November 03, 2005, 02:49 PM: Message edited by: CLEEN 50 ]
 
Posted by Jmir018 (Member # 1414) on :
 
hey. i really don't think it is the a arms you should be concerned about. are you sure those are sn95 spindles? totally positive? because if you have the 96s then the tires will stick out.
Good luck.
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CLEEN 50:
quote:
Originally posted by venomous99:
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
as was said above,
the first thing I would do is borrow someones 9 inch 5.95BS rims.

Get someone else's Saleen wheel, or borrows someone's 95 cobra R as they have the same backspacing and rim width. Put them on and see if they stick out the same amount.

When you are dealing with an aftermarket rim company, anything is possible. I would not be suprised if they sent you the wrong backspacing...
Luke

i dont think the wheels are the problem. i saw the rears on his and they sit just about right for a 9"(5.95) backspacing using stock length axles.
Thanks venomous99 . [patriot] I also swapped the rears and the front thinking it was the problem, but it was the same thing when I put the rear wheel up front.
[Mad] [Frown]

Looks like I'm going to have to buy some stock A-arms and swap them out to eliminate that possibility or hopefully fix the problem.

Luke87Gt do you think I you could take a look at my control arms, unfortunately my camera has now decided to break. [Mad] [Mad]

No problem at all. If you take a pic of the arms and the spindles, I will be happy to help you out.
Just send them over.

This might be a stretch for you, but if you are ever in the Pinole area, I'd be happy to take a look at the entire set-up for you.

I can measure your rim backspacing, tell you if you are using 94+ a-arms and tell you what spindles you have.

That will eliminate 3 of the possible things that are causing your prob.

Here is a question. Are you using steering rack limiters? If you have 93 a-arms, with 94-95 spindles, and 9 inch rims with 5.95BS, your rims should rub the a-arm BADLY when turning at full lock, assuming you are not using limiters.
 
Posted by CLEEN 50 (Member # 5867) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
quote:
Originally posted by CLEEN 50:
quote:
Originally posted by venomous99:
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
as was said above,
the first thing I would do is borrow someones 9 inch 5.95BS rims.

Get someone else's Saleen wheel, or borrows someone's 95 cobra R as they have the same backspacing and rim width. Put them on and see if they stick out the same amount.

When you are dealing with an aftermarket rim company, anything is possible. I would not be suprised if they sent you the wrong backspacing...
Luke

i dont think the wheels are the problem. i saw the rears on his and they sit just about right for a 9"(5.95) backspacing using stock length axles.
Thanks venomous99 . [patriot] I also swapped the rears and the front thinking it was the problem, but it was the same thing when I put the rear wheel up front.
[Mad] [Frown]

Looks like I'm going to have to buy some stock A-arms and swap them out to eliminate that possibility or hopefully fix the problem.

Luke87Gt do you think I you could take a look at my control arms, unfortunately my camera has now decided to break. [Mad] [Mad]

No problem at all. If you take a pic of the arms and the spindles, I will be happy to help you out.
Just send them over.

This might be a stretch for you, but if you are ever in the Pinole area, I'd be happy to take a look at the entire set-up for you.

I can measure your rim backspacing, tell you if you are using 94+ a-arms and tell you what spindles you have.

That will eliminate 3 of the possible things that are causing your prob.

Here is a question. Are you using steering rack limiters? If you have 93 a-arms, with 94-95 spindles, and 9 inch rims with 5.95BS, your rims should rub the a-arm BADLY when turning at full lock, assuming you are not using limiters.

The funny thing is that they really dont rub at all. And I dont have rack limiters at all. My GF lives up near Pinole when I head up there I'll shoot you a PM [Wink] Thanks [patriot]

[ November 04, 2005, 02:57 AM: Message edited by: CLEEN 50 ]
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CLEEN 50:
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
quote:
Originally posted by CLEEN 50:
quote:
Originally posted by venomous99:
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
as was said above,
the first thing I would do is borrow someones 9 inch 5.95BS rims.

Get someone else's Saleen wheel, or borrows someone's 95 cobra R as they have the same backspacing and rim width. Put them on and see if they stick out the same amount.

When you are dealing with an aftermarket rim company, anything is possible. I would not be suprised if they sent you the wrong backspacing...
Luke

i dont think the wheels are the problem. i saw the rears on his and they sit just about right for a 9"(5.95) backspacing using stock length axles.
Thanks venomous99 . [patriot] I also swapped the rears and the front thinking it was the problem, but it was the same thing when I put the rear wheel up front.
[Mad] [Frown]

Looks like I'm going to have to buy some stock A-arms and swap them out to eliminate that possibility or hopefully fix the problem.

Luke87Gt do you think I you could take a look at my control arms, unfortunately my camera has now decided to break. [Mad] [Mad]

No problem at all. If you take a pic of the arms and the spindles, I will be happy to help you out.
Just send them over.

This might be a stretch for you, but if you are ever in the Pinole area, I'd be happy to take a look at the entire set-up for you.

I can measure your rim backspacing, tell you if you are using 94+ a-arms and tell you what spindles you have.

That will eliminate 3 of the possible things that are causing your prob.

Here is a question. Are you using steering rack limiters? If you have 93 a-arms, with 94-95 spindles, and 9 inch rims with 5.95BS, your rims should rub the a-arm BADLY when turning at full lock, assuming you are not using limiters.

The funny thing is that they really dont rub at all. And I dont have rack limiters at all. My GF lives up near Pinole when I head up there I'll shoot you a PM [Wink] Thanks [patriot]
Ya, lol, they don't rub because your rims are pushed out far as fukc.

Feel free to drop me a PM or email me if you will be in this area. I'd be happy to investigate it for you.
luke87gt@yahoo.com
 
Posted by 94gt (Member # 3060) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
Ya, lol, they don't rub because your rims are pushed out far as fukc.

Feel free to drop me a PM or email me if you will be in this area. I'd be happy to investigate it for you.
luke87gt@yahoo.com

Thats awesome man! [worship] [worship] [worship]
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
Just for your own reference. Here is a 18x9 with two different offsets.

This one is a 12mm Offset:
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And here is a 25mm Offset:
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You could see that your rims look identical to the picture of the 12mm Offset.

Get the 25mm Offset and you will be fine!
[patriot]

Here is a pic of a car with 25mm offset front and rear.
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[ November 10, 2005, 12:10 PM: Message edited by: Luke87GT ]
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
Simple test.
Take off one of your wheels. Lay it flat on the ground with the inside of the rim facing up. Lay a straight edge across the diameter of the wheel, from lip to lip. Take a ruler and measure the distance from the flat part of the rim (the part that contacts your brake rotor) and measure up to the straight edge that you just put down.

Does it measure 5.95"? [Confused]

[ November 10, 2005, 12:16 PM: Message edited by: Luke87GT ]
 
Posted by CLEEN 50 (Member # 5867) on :
 
Yessssssssssssssssss. Well, I went back to fox stock spindles and SVO rotors w/ 73mm calipers and they tucked in about a 1/2" inch, which is is exactly what I needed. [worship] . To eveyone out there I used SN-95 spindles from a 95 and they stuck out a little farther then then the stock track width. I don't what it is maybe my car is different because I've seen others use the same setup with out problems, but I'm just happy I'm finally able to lower my car. [worship] . Thanks to Luke87GT, BottleFed and venomous99 for all your help and everyone else here at cafords.com. Everything is great however my centercap won't fit with the grease cap on, and it probably wouldn't work if I hammered it down either. I think I could get the center cap to fit if I run it without the grease cap. Has anyone done this or thinks it would be a problem? I'll try to get some pics up.

Thanks again. [patriot]

Oh and my old setup will be up for sale real soon. Front 95 spindles w/ brand new dustshields, calipers (painted black) w/ HAWK BP's (less than 500 miles), POWERSLOT rotors w/ rust proof coating (less than 500 miles). SN-95 Brake Booster from a 95 (Less than 5K). The whole assembly is still together.

[ April 19, 2006, 11:53 PM: Message edited by: CLEEN 50 ]
 
Posted by Eddie510 (Member # 2354) on :
 
how much?
 
Posted by CLEEN 50 (Member # 5867) on :
 
I am going to put this kit up for sale $300.00 FIRM [patriot] . SHould have pics and ad up soon.

Thanks [patriot]

[ April 20, 2006, 01:28 AM: Message edited by: CLEEN 50 ]
 
Posted by STREETFIGHTER50 (Member # 5012) on :
 
is there a part # or anything like that stamped on the spindles to make sure they're 94-95 & not 96 & up? sucks what u had to go thru bro, but glad ur happy now. i had the lincoln/svo set up & u are very limited with wheel choice because of the dust cap bs. also i hated machining those rotors! floating rotors are hella easier [Razz] i'm just a lazy ass [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
Gus, glad you figured it out.

Every internet source out there says that the 94-95 spindles preserve the stock track. My experience has been that 94-95 spindles push the front wheels out a bit. 96+ spindles push them out even more so.

I first got clued into this when I saw people on the corral trying to run 18x9 saleen rims on their fox. Many of the guys using 94-95 spindles had rubbing issues while the guys using the Lincoln mark VII hardware, always seemed to get them to tuck nicely!

This is really not an issue with 17x8 Ford rims, but once you start pushing the envelope with 9 inch rims in the front, every bit counts.
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by STREETFIGHTER50:
is there a part # or anything like that stamped on the spindles to make sure they're 94-95 & not 96 & up? sucks what u had to go thru bro, but glad ur happy now. i had the lincoln/svo set up & u are very limited with wheel choice because of the dust cap bs. also i hated machining those rotors! floating rotors are hella easier [Razz] i'm just a lazy ass [Big Grin]

no need for part numbers.
look at the tie rod mounting arm on the spindle. If it is curved, it is a 94-95. If it is straight, it is a 96+. Easy
 
Posted by STREETFIGHTER50 (Member # 5012) on :
 
cool, thanx 4 all d info again luke!
 
Posted by CLEEN 50 (Member # 5867) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
Gus, glad you figured it out.

Every internet source out there says that the 94-95 spindles preserve the stock track. My experience has been that 94-95 spindles push the front wheels out a bit. 96+ spindles push them out even more so.

I first got clued into this when I saw people on the corral trying to run 18x9 saleen rims on their fox. Many of the guys using 94-95 spindles had rubbing issues while the guys using the Lincoln mark VII hardware, always seemed to get them to tuck nicely!

This is really not an issue with 17x8 Ford rims, but once you start pushing the envelope with 9 inch rims in the front, every bit counts.

Thanks. Damn that was alot of money and time [Eek!] . I'm thinking of get some 2" drop Intrax springs from summit. Until I save up for my air ride kit [Big Grin] . Oh how plans change [Embarrassed]

Thanks again Luke [patriot]
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
If I was dropping that low, I'd want more spring rate than those ghetto Intrax springs offer.
 
Posted by CLEEN 50 (Member # 5867) on :
 
Hey Luke could you recommend a GREAT spring setfor my application. I am currently running Bilstein shocks all around. I'm looking for a 1.5-2" drop but I dont want a shitty ride. Let me know what you recommend?

Thanks [patriot]
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
You already have top of the line shocks and struts that can handle some rate.

If it were me, I would get nothing other than H&R super sports. Thats the combo I wanted to run (Bilstein/H&R SS) but could not get myself to spend $700 on it. Thus I got the Bullitt Kit.
 
Posted by CLEEN 50 (Member # 5867) on :
 
Thods were going to be next choice. I think I'll order those. Thanks [patriot]
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
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Posted by CLEEN 50 (Member # 5867) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
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I know but my car is moms house and my camera is on the fritz. WTF!I'll try to get them up as soon as possible. Sorry [patriot]
 
Posted by Bottle Fed (Member # 2686) on :
 
Sounds like you figured out your problem gus....give me a call, I have some more info for ou after talking to a few more people...Paul...
 
Posted by bookoo (Member # 6304) on :
 
could you please post some pics i have a 89 gt convt and both my front and rears stick out. im not to worried about the rears cause im going to a smaller tire, but you guys have been helpful with the front info. is there anything else to do to make the front not stick out i dont want to lose my front brake setup. can you get the tubular k member built to the 4cly specs so that its not as wide if they really are a smaller track width?
 
Posted by CLEEN 50 (Member # 5867) on :
 
Sorry it took so long, but here you go. Wheels tucked back in 1/2". I need to get the front aligned again once my cc plates and springs go in. My front tires are bit too tall/wide for my taste,..so I'm going from a 245/45 zr18 in front to 235/40 zr18. Should be getting my car back tomorrow after getting lowered and I'll post some more pics of the drop.

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Posted by two-gun kid (Member # 5891) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by CLEEN 50:
Sorry it took so long, but here you go. Wheels tucked back in 1/2". I need to get the front aligned again once my cc plates and springs go in. My front tires are bit too tall/wide for my taste,..so I'm going from a 245/45 zr18 in front to 235/40 zr18. Should be getting my car back tomorrow after getting lowered and I'll post some more pics of the drop.

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those are 18's?
damn they look tiny, maybe with a drop they will look better.
i want to runn a 18x9 all around on my notch or 18x9 in the front and 18x10.5 in the rear(i might mini tub it)
 
Posted by venomous99 (Member # 1917) on :
 
dont go with the 235s. they'll look to narrow on a 9" rim. the 245s alone are marginal on a 9" wide rim.
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
Gus Congrats!

You should post this on the corral.
Every internet source I have seen out there states that 94-95 spindles preserve stock track. My experience has shown that this fact is just not so. And I have had a handful of internet regurgitators argue that fact to death with me.

For anyone that thinks that 94-95 spindles maintain the stock track, just read this post.

I have read a plethora of posts on the corral about guys having major issues using 18x9's w/ 5.95BS with 94-95 spindles. Even worse with 96+ spindles, and then curing it with Lincoln hardware.

If I were ever doing 18x9's, I would for sure get Lincoln front brakes with stock 87-93 spindles.

Now get out there and go 4-wheeling! Your car seems more than capable [Wink]

[ May 14, 2006, 11:21 AM: Message edited by: Luke87GT ]
 
Posted by stangin' (Member # 514) on :
 
instead of going with a 235 tire, you might want to consider a 245/35. this will give you less sidewall plus 235 on a 9" wheel is almost too narrow, not good.

btw, my uncle just picked up a triple black '92 vert. let the modding begin [patriot] .
 
Posted by CLEEN 50 (Member # 5867) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Luke87GT:
Gus Congrats!

Now get out there and go 4-wheeling! Your car seems more than capable [Wink]

Fucker [Razz] [Mad] j/p . I know it looks soooo ugly not being lowered [Big Grin] . Finally, after today you wont be able to say that anymore and the only 4-wheeler I'll have is my SUV. [Razz]

I can't wait to drive it. I want to see if the springs, subs, STB, and K-member brace made a big difference.

I'll be posting pics on corral.net ASAP. I know those guys on corral.net were all regurgitating that 5-lug conversion web site (http://svo73mm.cjb.net) convincing me that sn-95 spindles were the way to go, ultimately costing me more money [Mad] . Luckily there was one guy, (procharger), on there who showed me the difference between the sn-95 setup and the lincoln setup. Again thanks luke87gt and venomous99 for all the help. This is one project I definately should of took the cheap way out of. [patriot]

[ May 14, 2006, 03:04 PM: Message edited by: CLEEN 50 ]
 
Posted by CLEEN 50 (Member # 5867) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by venomous99:
dont go with the 235s. they'll look to narrow on a 9" rim. the 245s alone are marginal on a 9" wide rim.

But the 245/45's I have on there now have a bit of buldge to them, check 1st page pic. Do you guys really think it's too narrow of a tire? I want the sidewall to be flush with the rim in front. I also may need to do some front fender rolling, just in case. Let me know what you guys think.

Thanks [patriot]
 
Posted by Luke87GT (Member # 21) on :
 
Procharger on corral.net is the original guy that got me thinking about this issue of 94-95 spindles not preserving the stock track.

His was the only example of a 18x9 5.95BS rim tucking that I saw years ago, and he did it with Lincoln hardware (albeit with slightly grinded rotor hat).

Gus, check to see what tire size guys on corral.net are running with the 18x9s

245-45-18 = 26.7"
Way too tall IMHO.
Stick closer to 25.75-26.0" in height to achieve the "look"
 
Posted by stangin' (Member # 514) on :
 
i actually meant to say go with a 245/40/18 for the front, NOT 245/45/18.
 




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