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Posted by RixSikCobra (Member # 5058) on :
 
Imagine that!...wants more hp. With the following mods and Jeff's SCT tune, I make 505/488 to the wheels. I want to get to 550-600 w/0 N2O or KB(jeff ), and then I still will want to run a shot on top of it. Askin' alot I know but I know you guys can handle it : What's next at a reasonable or unreasonable price? Thanx.

Ported Eaton
2.8 pulley/idlers
KN CAI
bbk TB
big ass MAF
KB boosta pump
Bassani O/R X-2chamber flows
 

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Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :
 
What about a 2 or 4lb lower?

...at that point i would think about maybe some cooling mods if you don't plan to run the "juice"

....but i know you are so that set-up should be strong
 

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Posted by 91 5.0 5speed (Member # 1867) on :
 
I would think you are pretty much maxed out. You could do longtubes, port the stock heads, or maybe also do a lower pulley. But you wll not see 600 hp with those mods.
 

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Posted by HungryHippo (Member # 537) on :
 
what about a heat exhanger
 

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Posted by Cm4hawks (Member # 5231) on :
 
Jeff did that well on your car i cant wait to see how mine turns out i have a r-347 stage 3 canfields stage 3 gt-40 lower hogan upper vortech t-trim and 150 shot on top of it all 1 3/4 long tubes to 3" 3 all the way out
 

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Posted by 306Coupe (Member # 4988) on :
 

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Originally posted by Cm4hawks:
Jeff did that well on your car i cant wait to see how mine turns out i have a r-347 stage 3 canfields stage 3 gt-40 lower hogan upper vortech t-trim and 150 shot on top of it all 1 3/4 long tubes to 3" 3 all the way out

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Originally posted by 03SVTPower:
this guy over at Modularfords.com has these mods and made 580rwhp...

Black KB 2.2 w/ Black 2.93 and 2.76 billetflow pulley's
Black Billetflow Throttle Body
All 4 BF idlers - Black
Stock manifolds
MRT catted H pipe
Mac 3" catback
Black JLT's CAI w/ 12" filter (new one)
NGK TR6's gapped @ .035
Xtreme motorsports heat exchanger
Head cooling mod
60lb S/D injectors
SCT 2400k/g MAF

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He said he wanted 550-600rwhp without nitrous or a kenne Bell

[ April 04, 2005, 11:37 AM: Message edited by: 91 5.0 5speed ]
 

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Posted by RixSikCobra (Member # 5058) on :
 
Okay. Quite the list. I figured I was pretty maxed out as far as bolt ons. What if I ported the heads, put some shorties on(plan to do that anyway), lower pullies(are they worth it?), cam(worth it?),and a heat exchanger, what kind of numbers could I be roughly lookin' at? And what would all that cost? Thanx a million, boys.
 

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Posted by Motorhead6T5 (Member # 4969) on :
 
I think its time you upgrade to a KB,you know you want to
 

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Posted by 91 5.0 5speed (Member # 1867) on :
 

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Originally posted by RixSikCobra:
Okay. Quite the list. I figured I was pretty maxed out as far as bolt ons. What if I ported the heads, put some shorties on(plan to do that anyway), lower pullies(are they worth it?), cam(worth it?),and a heat exchanger, what kind of numbers could I be roughly lookin' at? And what would all that cost? Thanx a million, boys.

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I wonder if I could beat you if you did not spray the nitrous hmmmmmm
 

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Posted by 1Sicgt (Member # 714) on :
 
Look into the AFCO heat exchanger for the 03-04 cobra. It should help quite a bit.
AFCO Heat Exchanger
 

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Posted by AJBlackGT (Member # 3936) on :
 

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Originally posted by Motorhead6T5:
I think its time you upgrade to a KB,you know you want to

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Yeah, how come you want to stay away from the KB? you could probably make well over 600 with it.
 

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Posted by Jeff S (Member # 371) on :
 
If you want 550-600rwhp without nitrous and keeping the Eaton you will have to get cams and add more boost and maybe some Longtubes. Cams will probably run you 2k installed. It would be much more cost effective to just slap the KB on and sell your ported Eaton.
 

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Posted by 1Sicgt (Member # 714) on :
 
Is the blower Plenum ported or stock? If not I'd swap that bbk tb in the trash, go with the Accufab Oval Big Bore, and Accufab Ported Plenum. Also try dynoing the car with an H pipe, I bet you would pick up a few there. You are moving enough exhuast where an X can start to be a restriction.

[ April 04, 2005, 11:49 AM: Message edited by: 1Sicgt ]
 

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Posted by AJBlackGT (Member # 3936) on :
 
Look at these Rick. I dont think they'll get you all the way to 600, but they look like a good base for a lot more airflow
ported heads
 

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Posted by RixSikCobra (Member # 5058) on :
 
Sup 'Drew? Thanx for tip, I'll see what's up with them. Does anyone know about these, are they good, cost(1500+?)what kind of hp could I expect, etc?
 

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Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :
 
I agree w/ Jeff in that you would still need a few more bolt-ons but would be pushing the combo so hard that a simple KB/Whipple swap... and you have the power and a much lower threshold for problems in my mind.

I beliveve you can 13 psi w/ the stock injectors but i know you have the BAP already

Also i would rather not delve in the the motor to swap 4 cams but that's just me.


 

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Posted by MINGRYGT (Member # 2439) on :
 
I dont know much about the cobras, but with my heads, cams and long tubes I picked up roughly 100 rwhp.. and thats with my low compression. hope that helps.
 

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Posted by TRIXSNK (Member # 2844) on :
 

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Originally posted by MINGRYGT:
I dont know much about the cobras, but with my heads, cams and long tubes I picked up roughly 100 rwhp.. and thats with my low compression. hope that helps.

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Ya unfortunately LT's i believe take about 6+ hours for install and that's probably a generous time and as for the cams i've never done them and i'm sure it's plenty feasible but just the cost of 4 cams

So right there that's close to 2-3 K if you pay for install when all the while you can do a 1.5 hr blower swap and stay smog legal and if yu decide to sell it's easier to put back to stock
 

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Posted by MINGRYGT (Member # 2439) on :
 

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Originally posted by TRIXSNK:

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Originally posted by MINGRYGT:
I dont know much about the cobras, but with my heads, cams and long tubes I picked up roughly 100 rwhp.. and thats with my low compression. hope that helps.

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Ya unfortunately LT's i believe take about 6+ hours for install and that's probably a generous time and as for the cams i've never done them and i'm sure it's plenty feasible but just the cost of 4 cams

So right there that's close to 2-3 K if you pay for install when all the while you can do a 1.5 hr blower swap and stay smog legal and if yu decide to sell it's easier to put back to stock

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yea, they lt's go in a lot easier when you've already got the motor out
 

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Posted by RixSikCobra (Member # 5058) on :
 
Ok, I'll have to contemplate this one. Sounds as though a blower swap might be the ticket. Lemme ask ya this, all. I like my N02, N20 likes compression, right? If I went with the heads and made higher compression, would the blower/N20 combo work? I'm at about 13-14 psi on my blowr now. From what I understand blowers don't like compression, so maybe the blower swap(which I really don't wanna do if I can help it)would be better? I want 550 without the N20 and close to 700 with. Not too much to ask right

[ April 04, 2005, 02:51 PM: Message edited by: RixSikCobra ]
 

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Posted by 1Sicgt (Member # 714) on :
 
go turbo, 700 is easy.
 

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Posted by RixSikCobra (Member # 5058) on :
 

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Originally posted by 1Sicgt:
go turbo, 700 is easy.

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That'd be sik as hell
 

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Posted by 1Sicgt (Member # 714) on :
 
check out the X2C car. They did an article on it recently. By going from 9psi, is made over 550, to 16psi at over 700 rwhp. Sounds like that the way to go. You got the bottom end to handle it.
 

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Posted by RixSikCobra (Member # 5058) on :
 
I'll look into it. What's a turbo run$ ?
 

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Posted by Jeff S (Member # 371) on :
 

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Originally posted by RixSikCobra:
I'll look into it. What's a turbo run$ ?

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Originally posted by RixSikCobra:
I'll look into it. What's a turbo run$ ?

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5-7k

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+ the supporting fuel mods....i would say closer to 8-10k when it's all said and done

Jeff - what kit peeks your interest PTK / HP / Ind. Concepts ?

I would think a KB/Whipple and spray could get your goal at half the cost but also half the originality and coolness
 

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Posted by N.L. Koncepts (Member # 5179) on :
 
If your thinking of going turbo, check out inductionconcepts.com or turbochargedpower.com. Swaping that stock blower to a KB or turbo will take you passed your 600 mark easy.
 

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Posted by -NORCALCOBRA- (Member # 2383) on :
 
I would say you can do a set of heads and the 96-98 cams, which I can get you for free with the heads. Heads are good for around 25-40 rwhp alone the Stock N/a cams have 10 degrees more duration than the stock 03 intake cams so you can see anywhere from 10-25 hp from that.I have a set of kooks kustom long tubes I mite wanna get rid of also that those can be worth 20+ rwhp and alot more tq. espeacialy on the n20.. Total cost heads 1600 with cams flowbenched.. headers id like 600 for the they have 1500 miles on them..
 

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Posted by -NORCALCOBRA- (Member # 2383) on :
 

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Originally posted by RixSikCobra:
Ok, I'll have to contemplate this one. Sounds as though a blower swap might be the ticket. Lemme ask ya this, all. I like my N02, N20 likes compression, right? If I went with the heads and made higher compression, would the blower/N20 combo work? I'm at about 13-14 psi on my blowr now. From what I understand blowers don't like compression, so maybe the blower swap(which I really don't wanna do if I can help it)would be better? I want 550 without the N20 and close to 700 with. Not too much to ask right

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