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Posted by 1992gtdrop (Member # 4502) on :
 
I finally get to pick up my car tomorrow w/ new FMS front crontrol arms, front sn-95 brakes w/ Power Slot rotors, hawk pads, SS brake lines, new 94GT MC, rear 5-lug converison (new drums and shoes), and 18x9 saleen wheels (24mm offset). I know these aren't big mods, but It's a relief to finally have the conversion done with. Here's a pic. I will post more tomorrow once it's on the ground, I hope it looks killer and I feel a difference w/ the FCA's. I'm in class right now and I so bored,....1.5 hrs to go and ticking!!!



G.C.

[ April 04, 2005, 09:14 AM: Message edited by: 1992gtdrop ]
 

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Posted by Cobra5.0JEEP (Member # 1482) on :
 
Nice
 

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Posted by Mustang (Member # 3943) on :
 

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Originally posted by 1992gtdrop:
I finally get to pick up my car tomorrow w/ new FMS front crontrol arms, front sn-95 brakes w/ slotted rotors, hawk pads, SS brakes line, new MC, rear 5-lug converison (new drums and shoes), and 18x9 saleen wheels. I know these aren't big mods, but It's a relief to finally have the conversion done with. Here's a pic. I will post more tomorrow once it's on the ground, I hope it looks killer and a I feel a difference w/ the FCA's. I'm in class right now and I so bored,....1.5 hrs to go and ticking!!!



G.C.

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Nice Saleen Wheels
 

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Posted by boostin1.8 (Member # 868) on :
 
are those still drums in the rear
 

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Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
I want to see how the car sits with those wheels on the ground. Nice setup
 

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Posted by 1992gtdrop (Member # 4502) on :
 

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Originally posted by boostin1.8:
are those still drums in the rear

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yes , I will be upgrading to rear disc in the near future money permitting. My new drums and shoes will do the job for now -Thanks
 

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Posted by Hele On (Member # 4107) on :
 
Looks good!
Who's doing the work?
 

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Posted by 1992gtdrop (Member # 4502) on :
 

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Originally posted by Hele On:
Looks good!
Who's doing the work?

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Thanks. I have a friend who has a shop on Linden Ave. in SSF. Chico's service station is the name of the shop. Very fair prices and quality work. The owner is an asian guy, his name is Chico. He also has a gas station at the same location that has cheap prices considering the price of gas these days. Tell him Gus sent you if you need anything done.

Thanks again
 

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Posted by 2ToNE ToNe (Member # 4216) on :
 
nice send me you axel specs i've always wanted to put those damn rims on my ride...what axels you running and what size rim/tire
 

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Posted by boostin1.8 (Member # 868) on :
 
cant wait to see pictures of it on the ground!
 

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Posted by 1992gtdrop (Member # 4502) on :
 

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Originally posted by 2ToNE ToNe:
nice send me you axel specs i've always wanted to put those damn rims on my ride...what axels you running and what size rim/tire

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I am running the FMS 5-lug drum rear conversion kit. It has the fox length axles w/ new 5-lug drums. The wheels are 18x9 all around and are mounted on 245/45 zr18 Dunlop 8000sp's. My car is at at stock height. I don't know wether the front is going to rub or not, but I don't think it will. If it does I will probably have to run a smaller tire in front.

Thanks
G.C.

[ March 30, 2005, 02:11 PM: Message edited by: 1992gtdrop ]
 

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Posted by 1992gtdrop (Member # 4502) on :
 
Here are some pics of the car on the ground. The freakin front wheels seem to stick out a bit much while the rears fit perfect, I think I need a more narrow tire in the front (would it even make a difference?). Please let me know what you think. What tire size should I run in the front? I plan on lowering it soon but now that doesn't seem like an option because of the front . Please any solutions, comments, suggestions would be most appreciated.



Thanks
G.C.

[ March 31, 2005, 09:25 PM: Message edited by: 1992gtdrop ]
 

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Posted by 1992gtdrop (Member # 4502) on :
 
more pics


 

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Posted by HungryHippo (Member # 537) on :
 
what year is the front setup from?
 

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Posted by 1992gtdrop (Member # 4502) on :
 
from a 95

[ March 31, 2005, 09:27 PM: Message edited by: 1992gtdrop ]
 

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Posted by 5.0ford (Member # 3962) on :
 
i have an lx and its lowered 1.5"-eibach pro kit. i have the stock 16" ponies and i have 225's up front. i tried putting 245's but they rubbed. hope this helps some
 

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Posted by OhToGeeTee (Member # 5145) on :
 
Your car looks great. If your front tires were any wider. Someone would mistake it for a FWD car.
 

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Posted by 1992gtdrop (Member # 4502) on :
 
my tires do not rub in the front. damn I was almost positive these wheels would tuck perfectly under the front fenders. I had 18x9 cobra r's (same wheels specs as the saleens) on my 1st stang and it didn't stick out any. I thought the front setup from a 95 would keep the same track width. could it have anything to do with the new FMS control arms. I'm stumped
 

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Posted by 92coupe (Member # 1957) on :
 
i believe i read in another thread very recently that the sn-95 axles are longer. which is why they stick out.


Justin
 

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Posted by 1992gtdrop (Member # 4502) on :
 

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Originally posted by 92coupe:
i believe i read in another thread very recently that the sn-95 axles are longer. which is why they stick out.


Justin

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Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
You need different offsets or something in the front to pull the wheels in. The tires size won't help your situation at all. Getting smaller tires will just make it look HORRIBLE, and still stick out.

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It is a 24mm offset in the front and these wheels are not made in any other offset. I don't understand what's making the wheels stick out, I've seen others run these wheels w/o problems. Anyone out there w/ 18x9's (24mm)in front please let me know if you have similar problems

Thanks
 

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Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :
 
Are you absolutely positive that setup is from a 94-95...cuz it sure looks like a 96+...
 

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Posted by 1992gtdrop (Member # 4502) on :
 

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Originally posted by JohnB:
Are you absolutely positive that setup is from a 94-95...cuz it sure looks like a 96+...

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You know what I was up all night thinking about this shit, and the only thing I could think was maybe the front was for a 96+ like you said, but the guy who I bought said it came off a 95 . damnit!now I have to to the spindles f@#k!
 

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Posted by 1992gtdrop (Member # 4502) on :
 
well I just confirmed that the spindles are from a 95 mustang. Dont know what else to do. If they are from a 95 and the wheels are 18x9 w/24mm offsett then they should tuck right under the fenders shouldn't they. Could it be my front control arms? This is really bumming out the whole experience of having my new wheels. what can I do please help

thanks
g.c

[ April 01, 2005, 12:01 PM: Message edited by: 1992gtdrop ]
 

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Posted by 1992gtdrop (Member # 4502) on :
 
TTT


Moderator: can we move this topis to the Tech section

Thanks

[ April 01, 2005, 02:11 PM: Message edited by: 1992gtdrop ]
 

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Posted by PumaFiveOh (Member # 2322) on :
 
Yeah I agree, it looks like you have 96+ spindles on there. If you are absolutely 100%sure they are 94-95 then I would suggest getting some adjustable CC plates to fix the situation and bring them in more a bit. There is no other explanation unless you have aftermarket Saleen imitations with a different offset. Good luck!
 

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Posted by 1992gtdrop (Member # 4502) on :
 
I confirmed that they are 95 spindles. The wheels are replicas but they are 24 offset 5.95 backspacing
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7965653698&category=43958&sspagename=WDVW
 

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Posted by 1992gtdrop (Member # 4502) on :
 

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Originally posted by 1992gtdrop:
I confirmed that they are 95 spindles. The wheels are replicas but they are 24 offset 5.95 backspacing. Same as many wheels that fit on mustangs including the saleens.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7965653698&category=43958&sspagename=WDVW

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Originally posted by heffe190:
i have come across this same situation before. heres how it gos...the setup off a 95 are going to stick out a bit more than the rear. it has nothing to do with your control arms and it would do the same thing if they were stock ones. Do not get smaller tires cus that won't help. It doesn't matter that the wheels are coppies, the real ones are the same offset and would stick out too. you can lower your car about an inch and a half without worying about rubbing. also, i would not recomend adjusting the camber to make it appear that the wheels are tucked under because you will start burning through tires in no time. basically, don't worry that they stick out a little in the front. it really doesn't matter and the car looks great in the pics.

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thanks, but why does all the info state that the front setup off a 94 or 95 keep the same track width as 87-93 mustangs.

JohnB said I should check if the powerslot rotors to see if they have a larger hat on them, but I don't have a stock rotor to compare it to. Here goes a pic. Let me know if it is bigger than stock.

thanks

[ April 04, 2005, 07:58 AM: Message edited by: 1992gtdrop ]
 

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Posted by SALEENx5 (Member # 1605) on :
 
You are going to need a different offset wheel in the front than the rear. A 9" wide wheel with a +35mm offset will tuck in nicely (granted you have '94-'95 spindles and stock length control arms). If and when you do decide to upgrade to rear disc brakes, you will have the same dillema in the rear that you have in the front as most disc brake kits utilize longer length axles that will increase the track width and push the rear wheels outward. I have the '94-'95 Cobra brake set up on my '90 Saleen Convertible and the track width is the same as my '89 Saleen Hatchback. I currently have 18x8.5" Saleen wheels on the '89 and they fit the same on my '90 also. The wheels have a +30mm offset. web page
 

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Posted by menlo pony (Member # 4301) on :
 

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Originally posted by SALEENx5:
You are going to need a different offset wheel in the front than the rear. A 9" wide wheel with a +35mm offset will tuck in nicely (granted you have '94-'95 spindles and stock length control arms). If and when you do decide to upgrade to rear disc brakes, you will have the same dillema in the rear that you have in the front as most disc brake kits utilize longer length axles that will increase the track width and push the rear wheels outward. I have the '94-'95 Cobra brake set up on my '90 Saleen Convertible and the track width is the same as my '89 Saleen Hatchback. I currently have 18x8.5" Saleen wheels on the '89 and they fit the same on my '90 also. The wheels have a +30mm offset. web page

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here you go:
 

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Posted by 1992gtdrop (Member # 4502) on :
 

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Originally posted by SALEENx5:
You are going to need a different offset wheel in the front than the rear. A 9" wide wheel with a +35mm offset will tuck in nicely (granted you have '94-'95 spindles and stock length control arms). If and when you do decide to upgrade to rear disc brakes, you will have the same dillema in the rear that you have in the front as most disc brake kits utilize longer length axles that will increase the track width and push the rear wheels outward. I have the '94-'95 Cobra brake set up on my '90 Saleen Convertible and the track width is the same as my '89 Saleen Hatchback. I currently have 18x8.5" Saleen wheels on the '89 and they fit the same on my '90 also. The wheels have a +30mm offset. web page

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they don't make the newer saleen wheels in that sme offset as your wheels. 18x9 saleen I have are the same specs as the cobra wheels 24mm 5.95 BS, this is why I'm not understanding why it sticks out in front. Don't many people run wheels with the same specs?

[ April 04, 2005, 06:48 PM: Message edited by: 1992gtdrop ]
 

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Posted by Mr JoCo (Member # 1549) on :
 
You said you had another stang with the same size/offset wheels. What kind of spindles did you have on that one? The same as these?

If not then that's why these dont' tuck. U'll need a the correct offset to make them tuck.

Pull the wheel and verify the b/s.
 

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Posted by 9Roush8 (Member # 2472) on :
 
For some reason my wheels which are 18x9 03 cobras stick out a little bit in the front.. my suggestion is either get some camber plates.. or i called stockton wheel and they told me they can cut like 1/4" off the hub of the wheels in the front to make them tuck better?? something to think about. Thats what i was going to do if i kept the car is put camber plates and have them shave off a little but so they tucked nicely. goodluck
 

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Posted by 1992gtdrop (Member # 4502) on :
 

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Originally posted by Mr JoCo:
You said you had another stang with the same size/offset wheels. What kind of spindles did you have on that one? The same as these?

If not then that's why these dont' tuck. U'll need a the correct offset to make them tuck.

Pull the wheel and verify the b/s.

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I had stock 90 spindles on the first mustang, and I have 95 spindles on this car, but the reason I am confused is all the info I've read and research I have done states that when you change to sn-95 spindles it keeps the same track width in the front.Is this wrong
 

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Posted by 1992gtdrop (Member # 4502) on :
 

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Originally posted by 9Roush8:
For some reason my wheels which are 18x9 03 cobras stick out a little bit in the front.. my suggestion is either get some camber plates.. or i called stockton wheel and they told me they can cut like 1/4" off the hub of the wheels in the front to make them tuck better?? something to think about. Thats what i was going to do if i kept the car is put camber plates and have them shave off a little but so they tucked nicely. goodluck

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Originally posted by DTS crew:
If they are real saleens, then they do have different offsets. A friend of mine bought a saleen body kit and saleen wheels from saleen.
the rear are a dfferent offset, so they stay flush with the body kit. check yours out, you might have the rears on the front and that is why they stick out.

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I believe the real saleen wheels only come in different offset's when they are staggered sizes like, 18x9 and 18x10. Teh 18x9 have a 25mm offsett where as the 18x10's have a 30mm offsett. All my wheels are the same 18x9 24mm offsett. Guess I am going to have to have a 1/4" machined off each front wheel. I still don't understand why though, these wheels should fit.

[ April 06, 2005, 08:41 AM: Message edited by: 1992gtdrop ]
 

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Posted by 89point (Member # 5412) on :
 
who did you buy your spindles from do you have a recipt saying for sure that they are 95 or are you just taking someones word for it
 

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Posted by 1992gtdrop (Member # 4502) on :
 

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Originally posted by 89point:
who did you buy your spindles from do you have a recipt saying for sure that they are 95 or are you just taking someones word for it

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Originally posted by asskickn88:
I just did the same swap on my 88 GT vert with all 95 stuff and the wheels fit fine. Im running 99 Cobra wheels, it might be the offset wheel thats causing the problem.

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24mm offset wheels should fit on 87-93 stangs right? I give up
 

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Posted by asskickn88 (Member # 4957) on :
 
Im not sure what the offset on mine are, they are factory 17x8 99 Cobra wheels. The car is lowered 1 1/2" and I have 245-45s, they fit good. Now the back is a different story.....
 

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Posted by DTS crew (Member # 3303) on :
 
All of my friends wheels are 18x9 but the back are a different offset. I know, because i was going to buy them for my car but they would stick out too much. I have a 93 gt with 94 and later spindles and hubs. I am running the same wheels as ass kickin 88 and they look fine. If i were u i would double check anyways.
 

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