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Posted by Jdub07 (Member # 2728) on :
 
any part numbers on them?

I just bought one for $100 and couldn't find anything except a ford oval on one of the u-joints and a R number
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
Don't "think" so. I bought mine from Lee and just installed it without looking. HURRY UP and install it. I want to know if that fixed your vibration!

GOODLUCK [patriot]
 
Posted by Jdub07 (Member # 2728) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by hidnn.o.s.:
Don't "think" so. I bought mine from Lee and just installed it without looking. HURRY UP and install it. I want to know if that fixed your vibration!

GOODLUCK [patriot]

lol,...me too. I have to wait till the weekend though. Any special secrets on the install? Any kind of greese or bearings that I should be concerned about?
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
Not at all! Just have the rear jacked up so the fluid does not run out of the tail shaft of the tranny. I did it myself by putting it in gear/E brake and then crawling under the car and removing one or two bolts, then climb back out and put in neutral and turning the wheels so the other two bolts can be accessed. With one person there is a lot of crawling out/under the car.
If you have a friend sit in it you can loosen each bolt and just yell to put it in neutral. Then turn the shaft for each bolt and tell him to put it in gear and so on.
 
Posted by Jdub07 (Member # 2728) on :
 
sweet thanks! I hear people talk about re-greesing something when doing the driveshaft...
 
Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jdub07:
sweet thanks! I hear people talk about re-greesing something when doing the driveshaft...

regreasing the u joints, i dont think they have a grease zerk, so you would have to take the caps off and regrease, making sure to not loose any needle bearings, and to get the caps off you would haveto remove the u joints from the driveshatf, thats a pita without the right tools or a press

so yeah, just stick it in [Razz] , make sure to be careful with the tranny output area, tranny and driveshaft, a litte nick on the driveshaft surface will cause an oil leak

while the shaft is out, you might as well put in a new output seal in the tranny
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
It's EASY! I see you put Bay area, if you are near Santa Rosa feel free to stop by and we can toss it up in 10 minutes or so [patriot]
 
Posted by Jdub07 (Member # 2728) on :
 
Any auto store have the new bearing for the tranny?

I guess I should change my profile to Fremont. Kinda far from you. But it sound simple enough even for me

**EDIT** seal not bearing [Embarrassed]

[ March 16, 2005, 02:21 PM: Message edited by: Jdub07 ]
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
Cool, no bearing needed, just the seal. I didn't change mine, I was just careful removing and installing. If you have no leak now I would just be careful when removing/installing it. If it does leak down the road it is a 15 minute fix.
 
Posted by Jdub07 (Member # 2728) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:
quote:
Originally posted by Jdub07:
sweet thanks! I hear people talk about re-greesing something when doing the driveshaft...

make sure to be careful with the tranny output area, tranny and driveshaft, a litte nick on the driveshaft surface will cause an oil leak


can you explain this more to me?
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
When you remove the 4 bolts and pull out the shaft I think Eric means to be careful not to nick the seal. Be right under it and use both of your hands on each end of the driveshaft to have it completely balanced when removing/installing it.
 
Posted by Jdub07 (Member # 2728) on :
 
okay got it. Thanks guys. God I hope this will fix my vibrations...at least my wife like it when were going 70mph [Eek!]
 
Posted by 9cobra9 (Member # 4470) on :
 
ds changing to a "performance" drive shaft free up and power, or just weight?
 
Posted by AJBlackGT (Member # 3936) on :
 
Not really, just fixes vibrations for the most part
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by AJBlackGT:
Not really, just fixes vibrations for the most part

Not neccesarily true. It does free up a little power because it is now a lighter/balanced driveshaft spinning more efficiently!
 
Posted by BlackNGold (Member # 655) on :
 
Jdub, jack up the car enough to be able to get under it...Drain ALL your transmission fluid, because you might loose a little trnas fluid changing your driveshaft and if you never done it now's a good time....Just remember to buy a gear oil pump and only use Dex III for fluid...

Installing the driveshaft is just like hiddnos said...I'd recommend putting it into gear along with the handbrake while your wrenching on those 4 pinion bolts...You're gonna need a 12 point socket or wrench for those bolts too, regular 6 point sockets or wrenches won't fit....

I hope this cures your problems...Good luck... [patriot]
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BlackNGold:
Just remember to buy a gear oil pump and only use Dex III for fluid...

Those damn things are always a PITA for me so I just unbolted the shifter and did it that way. I had to get out of the car a couple times to see when it came out the upper hole, but it is easier than those darn pumps, LOL. Then again, I have probably never had the "right" kind of pump.
 
Posted by need-a-cage (Member # 5415) on :
 
I guess that I need one of these driveshafts because my car is vibrating pretty good at the far end of the track. I am going to recheck the balance on my tires, but I am pretty sure it is the damn driveshaft. I hope the aluminum one fits through my loop! I wish that I would have replaced it when I had the tranny out last month. If I get one, I will try to make the swap very quickly before much oil runs out. Don, the right pump works really well for the rearend and tranny. Let me know if you know anyone selling a MS driveshaft. Funds are a little limitted right now, so I need to wait for a used one.

Craig
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
Craig, I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU HAVE A STOCK DRIVESHAFT ON YOUR CAR "STILL."

There is a local guy on here now that has one for $150. Name is Mr.X

If you pick it up with cash he "may" take a couple bucks less? He is in SR I think. Pm him.
 
Posted by need-a-cage (Member # 5415) on :
 
I actually did email him Tuesday before Jury Duty. He emailed me back and I am waiting for a response so we can hook-up. I guess that I should buy it!

Craig
 
Posted by Jdub07 (Member # 2728) on :
 
Thanks again for all the advice...To bad I didn't read this before today. Yesterday I was under there trying to get the four bolts loose,...no luck. NONE of my twelve point wrenches are MM. So I had to go buy one. I didn't get a pump either so on my way back for that it started pouring rain so I just called it a day [Mad]

How much fluid does the tranny hold? Is there a filter of any kind? Should I just buy a new seal so I don't have to make another trip to the parts store in the middle of this?
 
Posted by 5OHS5OH (Member # 4665) on :
 
quote:
How much fluid does the tranny hold?
three quarts, make sure the tranny is level and fill it till it comes out the fill hole.
 
Posted by Jdub07 (Member # 2728) on :
 
FINALLY!!!

Last night BlackNGold and I put in the driveshaft,...much easier than I thought it was going to be. After swaping the DS and Tranny fluid we took the car out for a test run. Instantly before even going above 20mph I could feel a major improvment in just shifting the car,...then we found a really long straitaway and brought the car up to 125mph with ease. I was so happy my face hurt from smileing. Vibrations are gone! The car had much more left but we came up on a couple cars so we had to slow down.

Thanks for all the advise and suggestions and thanks BlackNGold for always helping me out with the car...oh...and the electric fan! [worship]
 
Posted by BlackNGold (Member # 655) on :
 
Your welcome....Lemme know when you get your bottle warmer wired up then we'll see what she can do.... [Wink]
 
Posted by Zkemp696 (Member # 5350) on :
 
Did you change your rotors lately?
Because if you did and your didnt tighten the nut that could be your problem with the vibrations.
Thats what happened to me.
 
Posted by Mr JoCo (Member # 1549) on :
 
u put loc-tite on the d/s bolts yes?
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mr JoCo:
put loc-tite on the d/s bolts

WORDS TO LIVE BY [patriot]

If you did not put it on, remove the 4 bolts and put it on. Remember my post where 3 backed off 2 turns and one back all the way out? Not worth the 10 minutes it will take you.

GLAD THAT SOLVED YOUR PROBLEM [patriot]

[ March 28, 2005, 11:03 PM: Message edited by: hidnn.o.s. ]
 
Posted by Jdub07 (Member # 2728) on :
 
I found some red locktight here at work,...626 I think it was. Hopefully it works...are all locktights the same? I mean we don't use it here at work for cars we use it on computer power supplies.

Anyway the bolts seemed fine yesterday,...I pulled off my dynomax mufflers and put on some 2 chamber flows with dumps,...car doesn't sound like an accord anymore! while under the car I checked the bolts and they were nice and snug. Now for an h-pipe, anyone want to donate one? [patriot]
 




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