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Posted by Platinum Pony (Member # 970) on :
 
Well my car starts fine when its cold then after i drive it for a while it wont start...i replaced the ignition control module on the distributor and it didnt fix anything other then making my timing off a little bit now also when its warm the freakin negative battery cable starts smoking when i try to start it...somebody pleeasse give me some good news
 
Posted by Platinum Pony (Member # 970) on :
 
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Posted by Gt88 (Member # 4361) on :
 
Either the starter is bad, I.E. the bushings are worn out and the ?commutator? is binding when you turn it. It happens, when the starter's cold it will work fine. Then it warms up and leaves you stranded.

Or, your cables are crapped out.

The last bad starter I had welded the starter solenoid together and cooked the positive cable.

A little find recently, is that autozone is selling 2 guage generic battery cables that work great. Cheap enough to replace them and the starter at the same time.
 
Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on :
 
Sounds like your starter is going bad. Do you have long tube headers? I would double check your ground connection too.
 
Posted by Platinum Pony (Member # 970) on :
 
i have bbk headers but i replaced the starter and its still doing the same thing
 
Posted by 68dustin (Member # 5388) on :
 
what does it do???? click or nothing
 
Posted by 68dustin (Member # 5388) on :
 
My connections caused me the same problem with the smoke
 
Posted by Platinum Pony (Member # 970) on :
 
it turns over but it doesnt start then i just sound like the starter runs out of energy and the battery starts smoking...but the starter is brand new so i have no idea
 
Posted by LXman25thANNV. (Member # 5359) on :
 
I can almost guarantee that its your starter...almost. I had exact same prob it cause once ur motor is hot it takes more for the starter to crank it over. Just make sure its not the solenoid, batt. cables, or batt. To test the solenoid just jump the current past solenoid right to the starter..your haynes assuming u got one, will tell u step by step how to jumper them. [burnout]
 
Posted by CDT (Member # 5004) on :
 
try putting a couple ground scraps
 
Posted by Gt88 (Member # 4361) on :
 
If by "brand new" you mean Kragens, don't be suprised if it's a turd. As I said, if the starter only binds when it's hot, their rebuild gremlins would think it's fine, spray paint it and ship it!
 
Posted by ALLEYEZONMYCOBRA (Member # 5068) on :
 
kragen starters are crap. i swear i went thru like 5 in like 9 months!!!dont ever buy one from kragens or any other rebuilt ones!!
 
Posted by Cobra5.0JEEP (Member # 1482) on :
 
if your negative battery cable is smoking, replace it something is wrong with that cable or something is wrong in that area. I bet you have a bad ground and thats why your car won't start. It'll start cold because the car hasn't moved for a while and made a stronger connection and then when you drive it the connection is lost.

[ March 07, 2005, 12:49 AM: Message edited by: Cobra5.0JEEP ]
 
Posted by 5OHS5OH (Member # 4665) on :
 
also, use some dielectric (sp?) on all of the electrical connections. It produces better connectivity.
 
Posted by 92stangLX (Member # 3252) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Cobra5.0JEEP:
if your negative battery cable is smoking, replace it something is wrong with that cable or something is wrong in that area. I bet you have a bad ground and thats why your car won't start. It'll start cold because the car hasn't moved for a while and made a stronger connection and then when you drive it the connection is lost.

Yup, I would try the simplest stuff 1st before replacing the starter. Replace the ground cable and check the connection at the starter and the relay.

Are your headers long tubes or shorties? If they are long tubes I have heard of problems with heat soak.
 
Posted by Cobra5.0JEEP (Member # 1482) on :
 
If i saw my negative cable smoking i wouldn't even try starting the car until i replaced it and if i was somewhere i'd have it towed home i 'm not going to risk having my car catch on fire and burn to the ground.
 
Posted by Platinum Pony (Member # 970) on :
 
well its olny a little if you keep trying to start it...but i replaced the started because i figured thats what it was but it didnt fix it at all and i replaced the starter solenoid and that wasnt it but now after i redid the connection from the solenoid to the distributor i dont have to wait nearly as long to start it...i appreciate all the help guys
 
Posted by Platinum Pony (Member # 970) on :
 
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