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Posted by grupe56 (Member # 5329) on :

Anybody out there installed a gear drive in their 5.0L ? If you have give me a buzz and let me know how it worked out and any little things you might have come across during the installs. Thanks.

G-56

Posted by CDT (Member # 5004) on :

Why in the world would anyone ever use a pete jackson or any 4-gear type gear drive is beyond me. They suck for accurate cam timing. But I guess if you just want the noise then its all good.

Posted by grupe56 (Member # 5329) on :

A competent engine builder will use as solid a foundation for building an engine with as stable an internal assy as possible. Why in the world would any one want to use a chain and sprocket set up that's susceptible to stretching and possible timing variance problems is a question that could be asked to those that insist chains are a much better solution ? I've built engines from turbo charged 4 bangers to 500 cui + drag engines, simple rule to follow - stronger is better. This philosophy has led me to the strict use of nitride treating the internal reciprocating internals of any engine I've built to the strict practice of studding a block wherever possible (heads, mains, etc.). As to wanting to adjust the cam - that's why you degree your cam in the first place, there is a difference in quality & attention.

Posted by AJBlackGT (Member # 3936) on :

Why is a belt drive better than both a timing chain and a gear drive if its made out of rubber then?

Posted by CDT (Member # 5004) on :

quote:
Originally posted by grupe56:
A competent engine builder will use as solid a foundation for building an engine with as stable an internal assy as possible. Why in the world would any one want to use a chain and sprocket set up that's susceptible to stretching and possible timing variance problems is a question that could be asked to those that insist chains are a much better solution ? I've built engines from turbo charged 4 bangers to 500 cui + drag engines, simple rule to follow - stronger is better. This philosophy has led me to the strict use of nitride treating the internal reciprocating internals of any engine I've built to the strict practice of studding a block wherever possible (heads, mains, etc.). As to wanting to adjust the cam - that's why you degree your cam in the first place, there is a difference in quality & attention.

I agree with building a soild foundation, in all of your engine building you must have never used a pete jackson before. those things have so much slop you can move the crank at least 2* without the cam moving. When you put it together you will see. If you have ever used a good 3-gear drive you will notice they dont make noise. As for stronger you will never break a good chain, especially in a street car.

Posted by grupe56 (Member # 5329) on :

Cool, that's what I was wondering. I never used a Pete Jackson set up before - I'll make sure to stay away from them. Sorry if I came across a little harsh in my look at thing's - as a CAT tech I've seen and put together some bullet proof engines and the way I figure, if they build their stuff the way they do - how much of that technology can I carry over to my own personal build up's when comparable parts are available for my specific application. I recently built a 383 stroker for my kid brother, I'm kind of proud of myself... knowing I built probably one of the few bowties running around.
The only pair of hands I trust on my car are my own.

G-56

Posted by grupe56 (Member # 5329) on :

Few RELIABLE bowties running around. Sorry... forgot to add that important piece of info.

Posted by stoauto (Member # 2803) on :

quote:
Originally posted by CDT:

quote:
Originally posted by grupe56:
A competent engine builder will use as solid a foundation for building an engine with as stable an internal assy as possible. Why in the world would any one want to use a chain and sprocket set up that's susceptible to stretching and possible timing variance problems is a question that could be asked to those that insist chains are a much better solution ? I've built engines from turbo charged 4 bangers to 500 cui + drag engines, simple rule to follow - stronger is better. This philosophy has led me to the strict use of nitride treating the internal reciprocating internals of any engine I've built to the strict practice of studding a block wherever possible (heads, mains, etc.). As to wanting to adjust the cam - that's why you degree your cam in the first place, there is a difference in quality & attention.
I agree with building a soild foundation, in all of your engine building you must have never used a pete jackson before. those things have so much slop you can move the crank at least 2* without the cam moving. When you put it together you will see. If you have ever used a good 3-gear drive you will notice they dont make noise. As for stronger you will never break a good chain, especially in a street car.

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