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Posted by 89TRUNK (Member # 2506) on :
 
How would i go about getting 275-300 rwhp. Or getting my gar to run high to mid 12's N/A
w/o full lenght headers on a budget. What suspesion mods?engine mods? The car is a fully loaded 91 coupe 5 spd. I have C.A.I, MAF, bbk catted x, edelbrock cat back,underdrive pulleys, FMS 3.73.Any suggestions?
 

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Posted by mtbaughs (Member # 4052) on :
 
Heads cam and intake, unless you want to run Nos.
 

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Posted by 89TRUNK (Member # 2506) on :
 
What brand?can i do it with gt40's or gt40p cobra intake or typhoon intake w/ 1.7s instead of changing the cam
 

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Posted by Black94 5.0 (Member # 655) on :
 
You could do it with iron GT40's, I'd port them a little too...I would recommend an Edelbrock Performer intake, rather than the typhoon "wanna be" intake...I would use a nice CompCam with some 1.6 rr's too...

I managed 254rwhp and 301rwtq with stock un-ported heads and a stock cam....
 

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Posted by mtbaughs (Member # 4052) on :
 
If it's going to be run on the street I'd go with AFR 165 heads E-303 cam and cobra upper and lower intake. With shorty headers this will make the numbers you want. If you need help installing any of this let me know. Good Luck
 

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Posted by NorCalRydaz (Member # 3233) on :
 
GET THE JUG. NEX all the way!! Cheap and hella power only when u need it!!
 

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Posted by 93PONY (Member # 60) on :
 
I believe HungryHippo on this site made 270 something RWHP with stock E7 heads, cobra intake, longtubes, & a 2031 cam (retarded ) with 1.7 rockers.

Any aluminum head/mild cam/aftermarket intake combo should get you to your goals.
 

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Posted by street_illegal_stang (Member # 1554) on :
 
i'm pushing 12.30s with slicks
88 notch virtruly stock just
bbk long tubes,gt40 iron heads,gt40 tubuler intake
f-303 cam stock slider rockers
few other bolt ons like 24pd injector adj fuel reg.255lph fuel pump c&l 73 mas,mac 70mm tb
3:73 ohter than that its stock.
less front sway bar and some weld skinnys
i'm tring for 11's with this set up.
diet
o yeah most of this shit i bought off ebay
and i spent roughly about $1250 for all
i got the car for $1800
i was intending to build a $3,000 budget to go 11's oh well
now its 4,000 and 10's with the future plan of junk yard twin t3 turbo project yes i cant wait...yes this is a daliy driver

[ February 25, 2004, 11:32 AM: Message edited by: street_illegal_stang ]
 

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Posted by FasterDamnit (Member # 442) on :
 
AFR165's, 1.7 rockers, Cobra intake (may want to prt the lower, stock cam retarded 4 degrees (use HO cam, better than Cobra, shorties, MAC Prochamber, STOCK Cobra mufflers.

Dyno Pull #3 (Best) Details
1993 Cobra + AFR Heads
Ambient Temperature: 83.4 F
Barometric Pressure: 29.91 Hg
Correction Factor: 0.99 SAE

RPM HP Torq. A/F
2800 149.5 280.5 18.0
3000 169.3 296.5 18.0
3200 188.9 310.0 18.0
3400 206.9 319.6 13.6
3600 226.9 331.1 12.1
3800 245.2 338.9 11.9
4000 259.0 340.1 11.7
4200 272.9 341.3 11.7
4400 283.3 338.2 11.9
4600 292.2 333.6 12.0
4800 297.7 325.7 12.2
5000 300.2 315.3 12.2
5200 301.8 304.9 12.1
5300 303.1 298.9 12.1
5400 301.9 293.7 12.1
 

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Posted by 89TRUNK (Member # 2506) on :
 
What about power heads?I see these advertised in the mags, i believe they are stock heads that have been CNC ported.Any one hear of these heads are they any good?
 

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Posted by Black94 5.0 (Member # 655) on :
 

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Originally posted by 89TRUNK:
How would i go about getting 275-300 rwhp. Or getting my gar to run high to mid 12's N/A
w/o full lenght headers on a budget.

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Did you guys see the word "BUDGET"?....AFR 165cc's are hardly on a "budget"...
 

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Posted by Joel Villarreal (Member # 3975) on :
 

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i'm pushing 12.30s with slicks
88 notch virtruly stock just
bbk long tubes,gt40 iron heads,gt40 tubuler intake
f-303 cam stock slider rockers
few other bolt ons like 24pd injector adj fuel reg.255lph fuel pump c&l 73 mas,mac 70mm tb
3:73 ohter than that its stock.
less front sway bar and some weld skinnys
i'm tring for 11's with this set up.
diet

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SO what's else is mostly stock, Interior?


If you want to go mid 12's, get a LS1 and buy some DR's. Other than that, you'll end up tweak'n more and more than what you've already done. Don't get me wrong, the Fox body is your best Bang for buck. Just not gonna go mid 12's on a Bone-Stock, fully loaded set up.

[ February 25, 2004, 12:23 PM: Message edited by: Joel Villarreal ]
 

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Posted by Black94 5.0 (Member # 655) on :
 

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Originally posted by Joel Villarreal:
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If you want to go mid 12's, get a LS1 and buy some DR's. Other than that, you'll end up tweak'n more and more than what you've already done. Don't get me wrong, the Fox body is your best Bang for buck. Just not gonna go mid 12's on a Bone-Stock, fully loaded set up.

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LS1 + DR = Broken 10 bolt....lol

A simple 5.0 H/C/I swap and you can run 12's ALL DAY LONG!.....
 

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Posted by HungryHippo (Member # 537) on :
 
i made 274hp with a cobra intake, 2031 cam degreed by 93pony, home ported E7's, shorty headers, and every bolt on. all i did to the heads was port the exhaust, smooth out the bowls, and mill the heads .020". i should have ported the exhaust more and opened up the intake a little but i didnt have the long carbide bits. oh well, i have afr's now
 

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Posted by 89TRUNK (Member # 2506) on :
 
What about high 12's low 13's
 

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Posted by 94Blackout (Member # 2541) on :
 

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Originally posted by 89TRUNK:
What about high 12's low 13's

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Originally posted by Black94 5.0:

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Originally posted by Joel Villarreal:
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If you want to go mid 12's, get a LS1 and buy some DR's. Other than that, you'll end up tweak'n more and more than what you've already done. Don't get me wrong, the Fox body is your best Bang for buck. Just not gonna go mid 12's on a Bone-Stock, fully loaded set up.

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LS1 + DR = Broken 10 bolt....lol

A simple 5.0 H/C/I swap and you can run 12's ALL DAY LONG!.....

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EXACTLY!

Keep in mind, you can add all the power you want, but you have to be able to get it to the ground too.
 

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Posted by street_illegal_stang (Member # 1554) on :
 
double post

[ February 25, 2004, 09:29 PM: Message edited by: street_illegal_stang ]
 

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Posted by cobraman_1994 (Member # 467) on :
 

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Originally posted by mtbaughs:
Heads cam and intake, unless you want to run Nos.

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i vote for all 4
 

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Posted by Joel Villarreal (Member # 3975) on :
 
Well I paid 10K for my 98 LS1 and went 13.3 with 18 vette wheels, plus the LS6 intake and free mods. I ran a 2.1 60ft and had a 1/4mile 108mph. I thought that wasn't too bad. YOu can pay as low as $8K for a 98 now and throw a H/C/I on in and get to the 11's if you know how to drive it. If you don't want to spend that much and not to great at ripp'n gears, then find a LT1-auto for $4-6K then do a H/C/I and run high 11's too.

I like Chevy's, I like Fords. hell i even like some Dodges. But i like fast cars most of all and have Respect for HP. The LS1 comment was just my .02. And from my experience, getting a really fast, guttend, fox-body to hook-up isn't all that easy.
 

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Posted by street_illegal_stang (Member # 1554) on :
 

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Originally posted by street_illegal_stang:
alright other than what i listed my car is stock
yes interior,suspension and drivetrain i even still have the factory air silencer on the car
now what?
my friend had a 93 x chp coupe runing hi 12s or
8.20 @ 83mph 1.62 60ft in the 1/8 mile STOCK h,c,i,motor (dyno at 237rwhp)
of course he had some bolt ons
stock headers,off road h pipe,flows
electric fan and alum 4row rad. 160 temp stat.
pro m 75mm mas ,ram air using the pass.marker light
1.6 crane roller rockers
race crank pulley,under drive pulleys
bbk adj fuel reg set at 39psi.190 lph fuel pump,19 pd injectors.
timing at 15 degrees.
less front sway bar,a/c,smog,pass.seat,
short belt to bypass the powersteering
battery relocated.
4:10 gears auburn posi,moiser 31 spline hd axles
alumdriveshaft,stock t5 with ceterforce dual friction clutch,and pro50 shifter.
bogart rims with 11.5" slicks and skinnys

the driver of this car races renegade mustangs
and knows how to power shift
he went through 2 t5 trans in a month

or you can be lame and kick out 18k and get a ls1 the goes hi 12's
or be real and put that money in a fox and go
9's

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Originally posted by Joel Villarreal:


I like Chevy's, I like Fords. hell i even like some Dodges. But i like fast cars most of all and have Respect for HP. The LS1 comment was just my .02. And from my experience, getting a really fast, guttend, fox-body to hook-up isn't all that easy.

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Originally posted by Joel Villarreal:
Well I paid 10K for my 98 LS1 and went 13.3 with 18 vette wheels, plus the LS6 intake and free mods. I ran a 2.1 60ft and had a 1/4mile 108mph. I thought that wasn't too bad. YOu can pay as low as $8K for a 98 now and throw a H/C/I on in and get to the 11's if you know how to drive it. If you don't want to spend that much and not to great at ripp'n gears, then find a LT1-auto for $4-6K then do a H/C/I and run high 11's too.

I like Chevy's, I like Fords. hell i even like some Dodges. But i like fast cars most of all and have Respect for HP. The LS1 comment was just my .02. And from my experience, getting a really fast, guttend, fox-body to hook-up isn't all that easy.

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