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Originally posted by NorCalRydaz:
75 shot. Dial that shit in at least 100 shot

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Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA:
remember its an nx kit, that is gonna be 75rwhp

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Originally posted by Saleen_S281:
I did buy an s trim but my buddy is buying it this weekend... it was a used one that wasnt complete. It needed all the fuel system, injectors etc. With the money i get from it im getting my saleen rims chromed instead of white, new springs, cc plates etc. I also decided to go the nitrous route. I figured i could run a 75 shot through my stock block for a while till i save an extra 1500 for my forged motor.

100 + on a stock block doesnt last very long. I dont want to blow a rod before the new motor too. NX kits give you a real 75 which isnt that bad, that is a lot of extra horsepower... cant wait till my motor is done and i run a 150

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i guess it makes sense, not what i would have done on a 4.6 2v but its not my car

on ur built motor, u do plan on getting a different metal intake right, because no matter what the stock plastic intake will not last more than one or two nitrous backfires

either get a bullet or foxlake p51 inake
the reichard one is nice but u need serious boost to need it
 

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Posted by Saleen_S281 (Member # 2472) on :
 
Yeah I need to get a new intank... i want the new p51 intank. How much are they running? Also why wouldnt you go that route? How would i eliminate nitrous backfire.. or reduce it to a very minimum
 

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Posted by DropTopFox (Member # 1689) on :
 
You just get unlucky sometimes with the n20, You could probably get a new upper plenum right now pretty cheap and not worry about it. just get the gen x2 upgrade kit and you'll be fine. I spray all the time. 75 shot right now and it is very reliable
 

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Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on :
 

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Originally posted by DropTopFox:
You just get unlucky sometimes with the n20, You could probably get a new upper plenum right now pretty cheap and not worry about it. just get the gen x2 upgrade kit and you'll be fine. I spray all the time. 75 shot right now and it is very reliable

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there is a difference, it is easy to let fuel puddle in the 96+ 4.6's because its a small motor and the intake has so many tigh bends that the fuel just wants to puddle

basically just make sure that u never engage the nitrous below 3000rpm, and never hit the stock rev limiter while on nitrous

pm 98stangpower, he can tell you exactly what not to do
 

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Posted by Saleen_S281 (Member # 2472) on :
 
What did 98standpower do? IM for sure getting the p51 intank, if i get this and i get a backfire the intank wont blow will it? when on the bottle i hit it above 3000 rpm's and dont hit the rev limiter at 7 grand? thanks guys.
 

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Posted by DropTopFox (Member # 1689) on :
 

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Originally posted by Saleen_S281:
What did 98standpower do?

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He was running a WOT switch. You know the one that runs when the throttle body is wide open and it hits the switch on. Well he was having trouble catching traction so he back off the throttle thus disengaging the nitrous then getting right back on it again thus engaging the nitrous. This was a very bad idea and doing this with nitrous is never good and his intake manifold went BOOM. Apparently I have an easier motor to spray than you do.

Eric if this is the case with the fuel puddling up wouldn't it be in his best interest to use a dry shot instead of wet or better yet go with the NOSzle kit which seems to be really safe to use on the Modular motors
 

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Posted by Saleen_S281 (Member # 2472) on :
 
yeah that makes sense.... but i think you will get backfire no matter what??? that noszle kit is nice but its real pricey at 1400 as oppose to the nx kit.. what do you guys think
 

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Posted by DropTopFox (Member # 1689) on :
 
I think if you want to do it right, it's well worth the price. The NOSzle kit that is. It's an investment that will save you money in the future
 

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Posted by J's KING Cobra (Member # 2011) on :
 
Yes I would highly recommend the NOZzele one....I keep hearing thats one of the more safer ways of shooting Nitrous, its more direct. good luck
 

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Posted by whitecobra (Member # 555) on :
 
what about a zex kit?
 

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Posted by Saleen_S281 (Member # 2472) on :
 
What is the difference between the nx gen2 kit and the NOSzle kit? even when i get the p51 intank and i get a backfire will it hold? also how many backfires can a forged motor handle? thanks
 

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Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on :
 
a back fire will not hurt the p51 intake because it is metal, the stock intake is plastic

on less than 150 shot it would be hard to get a backfire with the p51 because of the straight throw design
 

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Posted by Vortech88GT (Member # 1076) on :
 
I'd just put the 75 shot on, I don't think those 99 below mod motors can handle a huge shot, But I don't know much. I'm not really a mod motor guy.
 

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Posted by DropTopFox (Member # 1689) on :
 

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Originally posted by Saleen_S281:
What is the difference between the nx gen2 kit and the NOSzle kit?

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Two entirely different kits. The NOSzle it sprays in with you fuel injectors. The NX kit sprays in you MAF to TB tube. The GenX2 package is just an upgrade kit that includes stuff to get a more healthy and safer sht like bottle heater, blow down tube, fuel pressure safety switch etc. I suggest you further study the kits that are availible to you before you even think about buying one if you don't know this difference. I'd never putanything on my car if I didn't understand how it worked
 

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Posted by Saleen_S281 (Member # 2472) on :
 
so even with the stock bottom end if i get the p51 and shoot a 75 until i have enough for the forged block i should be good?

I was going to get the nx wet kit not dry, doesnt the nx wet kit shoot with injectors?

any other suggestions? thanks
 

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Posted by Saleen_S281 (Member # 2472) on :
 
will backfires hurt a forged motor?
 

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Posted by DropTopFox (Member # 1689) on :
 

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Originally posted by Saleen_S281:
so even with the stock bottom end if i get the p51 and shoot a 75 until i have enough for the forged block i should be good?

I was going to get the nx wet kit not dry, doesnt the nx wet kit shoot with injectors?

any other suggestions? thanks

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the NX kit spray in the pipe between your MAF and throttle body, not with the injectors. You'll be fine with a 75. No backfire is good but it is a rare occurence. A forged bottom end will helpbecause if you blow a head gasket hopefully it won't damage the internals of your motor obviously the forged being stronger than stock. If Ihad a picture of my setup I'd show you cause I don't think you quite understand how the kit is going to work. If you go to the show on sunday find the white drop top 5.0 with the ram air hood silver cobra R's and all the gauges on the interior and I'll show you my kit
 

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Posted by Saleen_S281 (Member # 2472) on :
 
I thought it used the injectors, for sure im going to get the NOSzle kit then. The wet kit through the injectors is the safest. Running the p51 should be a pretty strong set up until i have the funds for the forged block.
 

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Posted by DropTopFox (Member # 1689) on :
 
I don't think the P51 matters at that point. The injectors spray the nitrous and the furldirectly onto the piston you won't get any puddles in the intake manifold. I think NX does sell a kit like this but it is also in the 1300 range as well. Snoop around a check prices and the way things work before you just run out and order something
 

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Posted by Saleen_S281 (Member # 2472) on :
 
For sure... I was looking around last night and was reading up on the NOSzle kit. It says it eliminates puddling and backfire because it shoots almost directly into the combustion chambers. It ranges from the smallest 100 shot to all the way to 300 whatever suites your application. Its about 1400 but well worth it. 100-300 shot whatever you want to dial in. Im still going to get the p51 for sure tho. The only reason for backfire is from puddling in the intank manifold correct? It also says the kit is good for a 150 shot on stock motors, although i will olnly use the 100 till motor is done

Should i change injectors, fuel system?
 

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Posted by J's DDLY SNK (Member # 2016) on :
 

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Originally posted by Saleen_S281:
For sure... I was looking around last night and was reading up on the NOSzle kit.

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Hey Nick, hit me up 408-705-7903. I may be able to get you a good deal on one. I'll give you my playa discount on a kit.
 

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Posted by Saleen_S281 (Member # 2472) on :
 
Cool I will give you a call!!
 

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Posted by J's DDLY SNK (Member # 2016) on :
 
Just let me know the part # and brand that you decide on and I can try and get it through my work at 25% Off.
 

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