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Posted by PeNiNsula302 (Member # 1061) on
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For those of you with new motors, just curious what company you went with for your short/long block and what you have heard about such company's as keith craft, CHP, etc... Any input would be appreciated, just tryin to see who to go with for the 347 .
Posted by white1990stang (Member # 2307) on
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yeah im kinda lookin for the same info. i was going to either go with chp or dss.
Posted by racercosmo (Member # 1864) on
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If the choice was between KeithKraft or Coast High Performance, I'd go KeithKraft. Coast has some good kits, but their assembly has been less than stellar what I have seen. You may also try somebody local who will work with you if there is a problem.
This guy built the motor in my pickup.
www.badasscars.com
Posted by Blue Oval (Member # 2548) on
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I baught my 347 from CHP although i didnt have them build it cause i built it myself.there products have immpressed me.i have good friend who baught a short block from them also and its running great.CHP Ive never senn Kieths Crafts work.
Posted by PeNiNsula302 (Member # 1061) on
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thnx for the input so far... I was thinking of just going with a long block because it would be less hassle for me, but im still not sure yet... maybe a keith kraft 347, 10:5:1 compression, afr 185's, custom cam...? Something like that. I already have an intake im gonna try and run with (fully ported cobra), so hopefully in the end this will all come together...
Posted by Blue Oval (Member # 2548) on
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Originally posted by PeNiNsula302:
thnx for the input so far... I was thinking of just going with a long block because it would be less hassle for me, but im still not sure yet... maybe a keith kraft 347, 10:5:1 compression, afr 185's, custom cam...? Something like that. I already have an intake im gonna try and run with (fully ported cobra), so hopefully in the end this will all come together...
thats sounds like a perfect combo.ive heard Keith Craft is good.
Posted by Chosen1 (Member # 1906) on
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I got my 351 Stroker from a place in Torrance. The parts list they faxed me was identical to one of the Keith Craft list (yes I called to get a detailed list). The place I wound up getting mine from was cheaper and took payments. I was in a little different situation because I was going to a 351 from a 302. I was very happy with my shortblock, and if something does go wrong, someone locally can always rebuild it. I just wish I got better rods with my setup.
Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on
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Originally posted by Blue Oval:
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Originally posted by PeNiNsula302:
thnx for the input so far... I was thinking of just going with a long block because it would be less hassle for me, but im still not sure yet... maybe a keith kraft 347, 10:5:1 compression, afr 185's, custom cam...? Something like that. I already have an intake im gonna try and run with (fully ported cobra), so hopefully in the end this will all come together...
thats sounds like a perfect combo.ive heard Keith Craft is good.
the only part about that combo that sounds poop ass is the intake, even if the intake is fully ported it can match the performance of an edelbrock rpm or typhoon with some portmatching
need proof click here
that is faster damnit's car, and him doing the grinding in the pics
Posted by Blue Oval (Member # 2548) on
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your right i over looked that little par.although if your on a budget u can always swicth intakes
Posted by PeNiNsula302 (Member # 1061) on
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i hear ya on the intake..but its all i have to deal with for the time, basically its whats sitting in my room right now, but maybe i can sell it and grab something a little better . Just curious, what are 30lb injectors good up to (hp wise)? Should i go with those or 36'ers? 36 just seems like too big for n/a. Other than that im going to run a 75mm tb, the anderson n/a powerpipe, pullies, long tubes, 3"x, all the little stuff/bolt ons... Already have suspension & rearend set up, so it should run strong...
Posted by 66 AC COBRA (Member # 904) on
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30's would probably be enough, but 36's couldnt hurt, and 42's are way to big for u
Posted by 1SLOWLX (Member # 558) on
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Get it built local It will be way better
Posted by PeNiNsula302 (Member # 1061) on
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Speaking generally, without getting into all the specs/details, is a motor like this capable of low 11's if i have it together right? what other advice can yall give me
Posted by Blue Oval (Member # 2548) on
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most definatly capable of LOW 11s i friend of mine was turning 11.3 with an off the shelf cam and AFR 175cc(ported 165).with 3.73s in the rear.
Posted by PeNiNsula302 (Member # 1061) on
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cool, sounds like it should be fun
Posted by TheBrain (Member # 35) on
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I bought my 331 from Keith Craft. If I am ever in the market for another, it will also be from them.
Brian
Posted by PeNiNsula302 (Member # 1061) on
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Originally posted by TheBrain:
I bought my 331 from Keith Craft. If I am ever in the market for another, it will also be from them.
Brian
About how long did it take for them to get the motor done?
Posted by Hater (Member # 3085) on
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Dude,,I strongly recomend DSS racing..
Posted by 1SLOWLX (Member # 558) on
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I am telling you local will be much better you get to see and watch them build it. Don't make my mistake with a mail order engine I will never do it again
Posted by PeNiNsula302 (Member # 1061) on
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Originally posted by Hater:
Dude,,I strongly recomend DSS racing..
Can anyone else vouch for this? Ive been looking into them as well. I think ill have to throw a few calls out to each of these builders and get some prices layed out... Does anyone know if Ed Curtis can easily be contaced? Id definitely like his opinion on the subject...
Albert, who did your motor? Bayshore?
[ January 07, 2004, 08:08 PM: Message edited by: PeNiNsula302 ]
Posted by 1SLOWLX (Member # 558) on
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Reggie jacksons
I would try bayshore next
Posted by TheBrain (Member # 35) on
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Originally posted by PeNiNsula302:
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Originally posted by TheBrain:
I bought my 331 from Keith Craft. If I am ever in the market for another, it will also be from them.
Brian
About how long did it take for them to get the motor done?
10 Weeks
Posted by DropTopFox (Member # 1689) on
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Why not just get it done at Bayshore Scott. It's local if anything goes wrong and you know their motors run hard as fuck. Do it right, don't do it cheap
Posted by badazz (Member # 1773) on
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if you are going to order one, i would go with kieth craft, bennett racing, DSS, or Ford Performance Solutions. Also follow what the engine builder reccommeneds...i had a buddy get a shortblock from DSS and they reccommended graphite gaskets and he went other and they blew in 4 months, then he went to what they reccommended and its been pullin strong since then( 11.20s). Also keep in mind you get what ya pay for...(unless its griggs building yer motor ) so if you go cheap on any part expect it that part to be yer weak point.
Posted by Bounty Hunter (Member # 1422) on
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I have seen motors go bad fromm DSS and seen ALOT of problems from Ford Performance Solutions! If you want someone good local call Dave's Engine Machining. They do top notch work and are good people. (510)797-9536
Posted by 1SLOWLX (Member # 558) on
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Do it once and right
Posted by yellow67stang (Member # 903) on
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LOL
Posted by PeNiNsula302 (Member # 1061) on
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Originally posted by yellow67stang:
LOL
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Thanks for the input so far everyone, really appreciate it
Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on
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I have dealt with DSS, CHP, and D&D. D&D was by far the best to deal with. Great customer service, took no time for the shortblock to arrive and it was a excellent build. If you want to stick strictly with a "big-name-company", I'd suggest them. As for the comments of "get someone local to build it, so you can see the build-up", dunno about you...but I ain't hangin' out at the machine shop everyday till it's put together! By the way, I vote "build it yourself", that's what I do.
Posted by yellow67stang (Member # 903) on
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Sorry, I was just reading something funny!
Just buy a crate motor. You will probably be happy with whoevers....There all the same. For there prices you could not possibly have much time(money) in actually checking tolerances and clearances. And they have monkeys slapping together parts.
Thats why they are cheap
Eric
Posted by PeNiNsula302 (Member # 1061) on
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Whats everyone opinion on victor intake for the combo??
Posted by 1SLOWLX (Member # 558) on
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I was thinking about getting one and ditching the holley. But then again they also have the new trick flow box upper which suppose has better and longer runners than the other boxed intakes
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