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Posted by J's KING Cobra (Member # 2011) on :
 
My Cobra is getting worked on, finally. Now im bored and may want to buy a 88 5.0. Im a modular guy not a 5.0 man but would like to see what would be possiable with $6,000.00? I want to have a 3rd car. It needs to PASS smog, be 100% streetable, be in the upper 300's of HP and can run high 11's. With or without nitrous dont care, but would like to be N/A if, if possiable?

CAN YOU GUYS COME UP WITH A SETUP? [Wink] [Smile]

[Whoo Whooooo!]

[ November 13, 2003, 05:47 PM: Message edited by: J's KING Cobra ]
 
Posted by Bottled Rice (Member # 1076) on :
 
I'm doing the same thing! [patriot]

And yeah that's definately possible [Whoo Whooooo!]
 
Posted by 66 AC COBRA of CA PERFORMANCE (Member # 904) on :
 
driveable, realaible, fast, and cheap dont really go toghether

to be reliable, driveable and fast, nitrous is gonna be much easier on ur wallet because its a full second + off ur 1/4 time and it doesnt hurt driveability
 
Posted by shade- (Member # 298) on :
 
even a stock motor (stock untouched longblock) with nitrous should squeak an 11 on slicks with hook and an eye to some weight savings (but would not be necessary say in a low optioned LX)

my vote for heads/cam/intake + nitrous + slicks. $6k won't get you very far so you'll need a lot of deals including a max budget of like $3k for the car. Consider a 4-banger LX if you really want to stay in budget and have more time than money. If you just want to do a few bolt-ons you might start with a 5.0 instead but the budget will be tight at the end, things may break, etc. as things tend to do (like axles, trannies, etc) when spraying with slicks.
 
Posted by J's KING Cobra (Member # 2011) on :
 
I'll have the car for sure. an 88 GT. it does come with a 302 already. But what else can or should I go with? What type of Heads? And Cam, F,X??? What brand of intake?? Im trying to stay under $6,000.00 but if i have to, I may increase a bit. As far as reliable, durable....etc..... I just need it to get from point A to point B and NOT break down. Be able to take it to the mall, movies, run around town with. So what else can I do with 6g's??????
 
Posted by J's DDLY SNK (Member # 2016) on :
 
If I had $6,000 and an 88 5.0, I would first buy Trickflow Twisted Wedge heads with the E-303 cam and ported COBRA intake,70mm TB, 30lb injectors and 3.73s. That should run ya around $2600-$2800.

Then go with 100 shot and some 26x10 ETs on draglites. Tha should be between $1800-$2000.

And your still left over with enough money to treat In-n-Out burgers to your buddies for the rest of the year! [Big Grin]

I don't know if this set up would run 11's but thats what I would do if I had $6,000. [patriot]
 
Posted by J's KING Cobra (Member # 2011) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by J's DDLY SNK:
If I had $6,000 and an 88 5.0, I would first buy Trickflow Twisted Wedge heads with the E-303 cam and ported COBRA intake,70mm TB, 30lb injectors and 3.73s. That should run ya around $2600-$2800.

Then go with 100 shot and some 26x10 ETs on draglites. Tha should be between $1800-$2000.

And your still left over with enough money to treat In-n-Out burgers to your buddies for the rest of the year! [Big Grin]

I don't know if this set up would run 11's but thats what I would do if I had $6,000. [patriot]
Cool, I would hope that would get me into the 11's [Wink]
 
Posted by 66 AC COBRA of CA PERFORMANCE (Member # 904) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by J's KING Cobra:
quote:
Originally posted by J's DDLY SNK:
If I had $6,000 and an 88 5.0, I would first buy Trickflow Twisted Wedge heads with the E-303 cam and ported COBRA intake,70mm TB, 30lb injectors and 3.73s. That should run ya around $2600-$2800.

Then go with 100 shot and some 26x10 ETs on draglites. Tha should be between $1800-$2000.

And your still left over with enough money to treat In-n-Out burgers to your buddies for the rest of the year! [Big Grin]

I don't know if this set up would run 11's but thats what I would do if I had $6,000. [patriot]
Cool, I would hope that would get me into the 11's [Wink]
see that setup sounds nice and cheap, but the problem is u need gaskets, roller rockers, pushrods, new maf, probably a new radiator so driving in traffic it doesnt over heat, new clutch to hold the power, a new transmission after u grenade the stock one from putting over 400rwhp through it

another question, is the 6000 mods plus cost of car
or is it the car plus 6k in mods

here is what i would do on a super budget
stock heads with some home porting by u, stock cam, edlebrock performer intake, stock injectors, cheap c&l 73mm maf, everyone has one or selling one for $75, 65mm tb, long tubes and o/r pipe and mufflers other than flows, new clutch and cable with adjuster, GEARS, GEAR, GEARS, and rebuild the posi while its out, slicks, and then some weight saving stuff, and a 150 shot of NX from me [Whoo Whooooo!]

it will be cheap, will get u into the 11's with some driving skill, and will be reliable from point a to b because the power output isnt too high off the nitrous
 
Posted by onesicklx (Member # 285) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA of CA PERFORMANCE:
quote:
Originally posted by J's KING Cobra:
quote:
Originally posted by J's DDLY SNK:
If I had $6,000 and an 88 5.0, I would first buy Trickflow Twisted Wedge heads with the E-303 cam and ported COBRA intake,70mm TB, 30lb injectors and 3.73s. That should run ya around $2600-$2800.

Then go with 100 shot and some 26x10 ETs on draglites. Tha should be between $1800-$2000.

And your still left over with enough money to treat In-n-Out burgers to your buddies for the rest of the year! [Big Grin]

I don't know if this set up would run 11's but thats what I would do if I had $6,000. [patriot]
Cool, I would hope that would get me into the 11's [Wink]
see that setup sounds nice and cheap, but the problem is u need gaskets, roller rockers, pushrods, new maf, probably a new radiator so driving in traffic it doesnt over heat, new clutch to hold the power, a new transmission after u grenade the stock one from putting over 400rwhp through it

another question, is the 6000 mods plus cost of car
or is it the car plus 6k in mods

here is what i would do on a super budget
stock heads with some home porting by u, stock cam, edlebrock performer intake, stock injectors, cheap c&l 73mm maf, everyone has one or selling one for $75, 65mm tb, long tubes and o/r pipe and mufflers other than flows, new clutch and cable with adjuster, GEARS, GEAR, GEARS, and rebuild the posi while its out, slicks, and then some weight saving stuff, and a 150 shot of NX from me [Whoo Whooooo!]

it will be cheap, will get u into the 11's with some driving skill, and will be reliable from point a to b because the power output isnt too high off the nitrous
he has a very good point...my brothers gt runs 11.7@118.9 on a 100 shot, stock home ported heads/intake e cam 3.73 gears,75mm tbody,no ac,no p/s,electric fan,long tube headers,90/10,and draglites on slicks...on more thin the car runs 12.79@107.9 on motor...the car is very streetable... [patriot]
 
Posted by onesicklx (Member # 285) on :
 
one more thing is he probably has less than 6,000 invested in the car, and thats including the car...good luck
 
Posted by Camara90 (Member # 134) on :
 
Hey nate I thought he had a lunati Cam? I will be doing a similar setup cheap, reliable, and fast. Maybee sell the car or just have fun and enjoy a 12 sec turd!! lol. your bros car is very impressive though cant go wrong with a setup like that.
 
Posted by J's KING Cobra (Member # 2011) on :
 
66 AC Cobra and Onesicklx, can both of these setups pass smog. Im assuming the o/r pipe and the long tubes wont pass visual. As far the $6,000.00.....thats just for the MOTOR work. Car would be already paid for. The setups sound nice any more???

[patriot] [Whoo Whooooo!]
 
Posted by 66 AC COBRA of CA PERFORMANCE (Member # 904) on :
 
i am bored so here is a list
port stock heads $50
used cam $100
frpp adjustaqble timing chain $50
hardened pushrods $50
cobra rockers $100
used intake $300
used tb/egr $150
used 255 fuel pump $75
fuel pressure gauge $40
fuel filter $15
used AFPR $50
new waterpump, 3g alternator $200
used aluminum radiator and new hoses $200
pullies $75
ac delete bracket $50
used balck magic electric fan $100
gaskets for everyhting $250
arp head bolts $50
used c&l 73mm maf for 19# injectors $75
k%n filter $30
spark plug, wires, cap, rotor $100
used msd 6al $100
used long tube headers, o/r pipe, mufflers $400
new clutch, t/o bearing, pilot $300
used short throw shifter $125
clutch cable, quadrant $125
used aluminum driveshaft $100
3.73's and rebuilt popi $700
rebuilt f/r brakes $100
drag launch springs $200
lakewood shocks $250
c/c plates $100
subframe connectors installed $180 (sheldon)
MM 6 point nhra legal roll bar $400
safety harness (11's requirement) $100
borrow a helmet FREE
slicks on 10 holes 4300
driveshaft safety loop $50
Nitrous express efi kit and genx2 $800
all that equals $6050

as long as the tranny and shortblock are in decent shape
11's, decent gas mileage, easy driver, and smog legal
 
Posted by onesicklx (Member # 285) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Camara90:
Hey nate I thought he had a lunati Cam? I will be doing a similar setup cheap, reliable, and fast. Maybee sell the car or just have fun and enjoy a 12 sec turd!! lol. your bros car is very impressive though cant go wrong with a setup like that.
nate...you got the wrong guy my name is freedy, your probably confused because of the avatar (we have the same one)...and yes you are right it has a lunali cam, i did not whant to give the secret away that easy...j/k...we should be going back to the track preaty soon, we took out around 150lbs of the car and new bigger slicks with a bottle warmer...looking for 11.5 or better... [patriot] [burnout]
 
Posted by onesicklx (Member # 285) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by J's KING Cobra:
66 AC Cobra and Onesicklx, can both of these setups pass smog. Im assuming the o/r pipe and the long tubes wont pass visual. As far the $6,000.00.....thats just for the MOTOR work. Car would be already paid for. The setups sound nice any more???

[patriot] [Whoo Whooooo!]
it should, the cam is smog legal...but it defenetly wont pass the visual, its also missing the smog pump and cats...we have a friend that hooks up smog checks, so why even risk it if the car does not pass.. [patriot]
 
Posted by J's KING Cobra (Member # 2011) on :
 
66 AC Cobra...wow, Im glad you were bored. Talk about pricing everything. NOW I really have something to work with here. [Big Grin]

onesicklx....yes I will try to keep the car smog legal due to the fact that it sucks having to pay almost 300 dollars for someone to pass the sniffer. Unless you would like to recieve some business? [Wink] [Big Grin]

wow, this is getting better and better everyday. [patriot]
 
Posted by 66 AC COBRA of CA PERFORMANCE (Member # 904) on :
 
if u want it even easier and a tad cheaper
get some shorty headers and an o/r pipr
then for smog just put the stock h pipe back on
 
Posted by J's KING Cobra (Member # 2011) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA of CA PERFORMANCE:
if u want it even easier and a tad cheaper
get some shorty headers and an o/r pipr
then for smog just put the stock h pipe back on
i might have to go that route, since I love the sonud of an o/r pipe [Wink]
 
Posted by Camara90 (Member # 134) on :
 
ya the avitar through me off [Big Grin] , edwards car runs real strong for what it has thats for sure! Oh ya i must have heard wrong it an e cam [Wink] ! WHat does the car currently weight after weight reductions?
 
Posted by Team SOLO (Member # 722) on :
 
put this motor in your car which went 10's...its only 4500 bux [Smile]

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CLICK HERE FOR DETAILS ON MOTOR [Smile]
 
Posted by onesicklx (Member # 285) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Camara90:
ya the avitar through me off [Big Grin] , edwards car runs real strong for what it has thats for sure! Oh ya i must have heard wrong it an e cam [Wink] ! WHat does the car currently weight after weight reductions?
before the weight reduction it came in at 3250lbs with no driver(full enterior street car)...i may have exagarated the weight ruduction, its more like 120-130lbs... [burnout]
 
Posted by NORTHERN TOYS (Member # 3819) on :
 
If you want to get the power increase without continually spending the cash.
Throw on a super charger, get a bigger fuel pump and open up the exhaust.
I know a few guys that spend the money to get the motor done and a couple of others who went with the super chargers.
Bang for the busk lies in the super chargers.
It's always there, doesn't have a negative impact to daily driving and you don't have to keep a bottle warm or remember if it is open.
 
Posted by John91coupe (Member # 18) on :
 
I was running high 11's with only a GT-40 crate engine and a 150 shot of nitrous with 3.73 rear gears and G60-15 cheater slicks. Engine also had shorty headers and that's it. That was about $3700 worth of stuff. Drove the car to and from work every day (70 miles) for a long time (until I got power greedy [Smile] )
 
Posted by J's KING Cobra (Member # 2011) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by John91coupe:
I was running high 11's with only a GT-40 crate engine and a 150 shot of nitrous with 3.73 rear gears and G60-15 cheater slicks. Engine also had shorty headers and that's it. That was about $3700 worth of stuff. Drove the car to and from work every day (70 miles) for a long time (until I got power greedy [Smile] )
dang all that for just $3,700.00....thats hecka good. and it ran high 11's. nice. i dont think ill get power hungry with this car YET. i have my Cobra for that. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by 85GT (Member # 1695) on :
 
how long is your timeframe? do you know how to build a bottom end? i'd go with a used block, summit rebuild kit, 30 over. 10.5:1. that is only like 300 bucks and will get you more power. then either home port stock heads or GT40 irons. the 10.5:1 will make a difference. i'm not a fan of e7's but i've seen them flow pretty decent when ported and alot of bowl work has been done. do alot of weight reduction and drag racer tips (remove front sway bar) its possibly with weight reduction and good traction.
 
Posted by J's KING Cobra (Member # 2011) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 85GT:
how long is your timeframe? do you know how to build a bottom end? i'd go with a used block, summit rebuild kit, 30 over. 10.5:1. that is only like 300 bucks and will get you more power. then either home port stock heads or GT40 irons. the 10.5:1 will make a difference. i'm not a fan of e7's but i've seen them flow pretty decent when ported and alot of bowl work has been done. do alot of weight reduction and drag racer tips (remove front sway bar) its possibly with weight reduction and good traction.
my time frame is long...im not in a hurry since im getting a house, finally! But yes i do think that weight is a big hold up. I might still go with NOS for the extra 150 ponies. I wonder is a stock 302 bottom will hold up?
[Cool]
 
Posted by TRUST (Member # 435) on :
 
I hope this 88 you just bought is mass air!! And not speed Density?? If it was made in Cali your good!!!! If it is not, you would have to convert to mass air to get everything running properly and its not cheap!!!
 




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