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Posted by 66 AC COBRA of CA PERFORMANCE (Member # 904) on :
 
does anyone have a csi or other type of electric water pump on a car with some decent mileage, any horror stories, im guessing the cooling was fine all the time, just tryin to get some info
its not my daily, it will see maybe 2k miles a year
 

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Posted by ON N2O (Member # 2067) on :
 
i have no problems with mine
 

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Posted by Jeff S (Member # 371) on :
 
I've heard that they flow like complete crap and that a stock water pump outflows them in a MAJOR way!
 

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Posted by 91sleeper (Member # 779) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jeff S:
I've heard that they flow like complete crap and that a stock water pump outflows them in a MAJOR way!

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Originally posted by Primer GR40:
If you do run one, hook up a warning light to your temp guage.

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i was going to do that anyway with my motor, cant be too cautuious
 

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Posted by st5150 (Member # 51) on :
 
shade-tree has a few horror stories
 

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Posted by shade- (Member # 298) on :
 
I bought the cheapy moroso piggy-back-your-stock water pump and spent 5 hours on the side of the road waiting for AAA after a friday night test-n-tune at Sac, made it back just past the richmond bridge (doing around 100) and it frags itself and flies apart. didn't have the right parts to return to stock.

I figured I was going to get shot/mugged/stabbed out there
 

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Posted by 66 AC COBRA of CA PERFORMANCE (Member # 904) on :
 

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Originally posted by shade-:
I bought the cheapy moroso piggy-back-your-stock water pump and spent 5 hours on the side of the road waiting for AAA after a friday night test-n-tune at Sac, made it back just past the richmond bridge (doing around 100) and it frags itself and flies apart. didn't have the right parts to return to stock.

I figured I was going to get shot/mugged/stabbed out there

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i was hopping u had a horror story about the shitty ad on ones
yeah im gonna get a csi or meizer pump, the ones that replace what u already have, shit i could carry a belt, a stock stock pump, 2 wrenches, and a gallon of water and change it on the side of the road in 10 miuntes

anyone with a csi pump or meizer pump
 

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Posted by Chosen1 (Member # 1906) on :
 
Those piggy back water pump things are not ideal for street use. I have heard horror stories about those ones. I have never heard horror stories about the CSI/Mezeire pumps. I want one too. I would be interested in seeing the flow comparisons between a stock style HP one and an electric one.
 

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Posted by 66 AC COBRA of CA PERFORMANCE (Member # 904) on :
 
edelbrock victor pump
that is flow data from edeldbrocks victor circle track water pump, how much more does the curcle track pump mpre than a reagular victor pump i dont know

but csi claims 36gpm, so at cruise speeds or at idle the electric watre pump outflows a pulley driven pump

at idle would be the most benefit from a electric pump i would guess, 20 gpm vs 36gpm for the elctric
 

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Posted by Camara90 (Member # 134) on :
 
I looked into them for a while and heard no complaints about them keeping the car cool, Shit when you have a crank pulley as small as mine an electric pump is probablly better! The only bad thing is they are only rated for so many hours but with as much driving as you plan on doing you will be fine.
 

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Posted by 66 AC COBRA of CA PERFORMANCE (Member # 904) on :
 
csi claims 3600 hours on the water seals, and i can get the water seals for $5 because of my dads business, and i know how to change them since i have done it before
csi says the motors are good for 50,000 miles in a daily driven car , i dont know if i beleive that but electric motors usually last a good amount of time, and if not i know the guy who owns Electric Motor Service in walnut creek so i guess he could just rebuild it for me
 

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Posted by FORDNUT (Member # 2348) on :
 
My buddy has a meizer on his LX ,with no problems.

It flows so much that meizer says to remove t-stat.
 

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Posted by castor (Member # 2765) on :
 
i keep hearing about this "3g" upgrade.
please explain...thanks!
 

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Posted by 66 AC COBRA of CA PERFORMANCE (Member # 904) on :
 

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Originally posted by castor:
i keep hearing about this "3g" upgrade.
please explain...thanks!

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Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA of CA PERFORMANCE:

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Originally posted by castor:
i keep hearing about this "3g" upgrade.
please explain...thanks!

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3g upgrade is a high amp alternator

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Originally posted by FasterDamnit:
How-to:

http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2001/03/paperformance/index.shtml

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Originally posted by FORDNUT:
It flows so much that meizer says to remove t-stat.

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Originally posted by FasterDamnit:
Damn! That article was supposed to be unlocked. Sorry.

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damnit jim ur slackin, no pun intended on ur SN
whats the status on the green machine, do u have a tranny yet that u can thrash
 

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Posted by ON N2O (Member # 2067) on :
 

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Originally posted by FORDNUT:
It flows so much that meizer says to remove t-stat.

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Can you explain why on earth you'd remove your t-stat? Was this a track car?

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you would remove it so there is no pumping restriction in the engine

it moves more water than the internatl bypass can flow... and what if you blocked the bypass hose..... well then the water dead heads at the water pump.... not good


i dont have a thermostat in the camaro.. runs fine right at about 165 or so... it i get on it like for hella long, it gets to 190 then cools down very quickly, and with the electric fan and water pump, it cools off in like 3 minutes with the engine off
 

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Posted by 66 AC COBRA of CA PERFORMANCE (Member # 904) on :
 
good shit
while at the drag strip i can turn the fan and pump on and cool the car off for the next run, sweet
 

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Posted by castor (Member # 2765) on :
 

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Originally posted by 88gt:

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Originally posted by FORDNUT:
It flows so much that meizer says to remove t-stat.

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Can you explain why on earth you'd remove your t-stat? Was this a track car?

Castor - here's a how to article on the 3G upgrade. http://www.racesystems.com/3gproj/index.htm I'm not sure sure if you can get onto that fordmuscle link...it makes me sign in there.

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Posted by mustanggt5091 (Member # 444) on :
 
Sweet, you can test it out for me so when my Victor goes I can get one
 

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Posted by HaulnAssMaro (Member # 541) on :
 
I have alwyas ran the CSI pump nad have never had a problem.Mine did sit for a while and the seals gave out but went and got another CSI pump in the meantime.I personally dont use it for continuas street use however.But a friend of mine has.He has had one on his car for approx 3 years now and drives the car everywhere and has never had a problem.He doesnt run a thremostat with his application.I would suggest running a 30lb radiator cap.
 

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Posted by HaulnAssMaro (Member # 541) on :
 

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Originally posted by 66 AC COBRA of CA PERFORMANCE:
csi claims 3600 hours on the water seals, and i can get the water seals for $5 because of my dads business, and i know how to change them since i have done it before
csi says the motors are good for 50,000 miles in a daily driven car , i dont know if i beleive that but electric motors usually last a good amount of time, and if not i know the guy who owns Electric Motor Service in walnut creek so i guess he could just rebuild it for me

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Originally posted by John91coupe:
Check out the new Mezier 300 series pumps. They flow 55 GPH and are supposed to be designed for street driven cars with high HP. They even have one with a serpentine idler pulley so it works with late model belt routing.

http://www.meziere.com/

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