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Posted by 93mustangt (Member # 680) on :
 
i think im going to start looking for a 351 roller shortblcok this weekend. any tips on finding a good shortblock? where exactly should i be looking?
 
Posted by 66 AC COBRA of CA PERFORMANCE (Member # 904) on :
 
looking for a roller shortblock, thats gonna be hard to find, i dont know what u have to spend, but 04parksrider has a s-351 roller block with the rotating assembly for 800 unassembled
 
Posted by BOTTLED.LX (Member # 3267) on :
 
YOU SHOULD LOOK FOR THE 1969-1970 BLOCKS I HEAR THERE STRONGER THAN OTHER YEAR BLOCKS HOPE THIS HELPED
 
Posted by 93mustangt (Member # 680) on :
 
thanks for the replies, but that means i have to spend more money to turn it over to a roller block.
 
Posted by Chosen1 (Member # 1906) on :
 
I paid $200 for my 351 core (its a 70 block), and another $1800 for the stroker kit (scat crank/rods and probe pistons) and assembly including machining for the dogbones and spider. 2 grand for basically the Keith Craft 393 Econo-Stroker shortblock is pretty good in my opinion.
 
Posted by 93mustangt (Member # 680) on :
 
i have a question guys. i was going to try and find a 351 roller block.Are the other 351 blocks flattappet or solid roller? i beleive they are flat tappet. i will be driving this car on the street so i want it reliable. can i do that with a flat tappet?
 
Posted by ON N2O (Member # 2067) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 93mustangt:
i have a question guys. i was going to try and find a 351 roller block.Are the other 351 blocks flattappet or solid roller? i beleive they are flat tappet. i will be driving this car on the street so i want it reliable. can i do that with a flat tappet?
ya every single v8 engine built before the 90's had flat tappet... even those muscle car things that made over 450 horsepower back in the 70's
 
Posted by cheap (Member # 858) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ON N2O:
ya every single v8 engine built before the 90's had flat tappet...
so you're saying that an '89 5.0 was flat-tappet as well?
 
Posted by Chosen1 (Member # 1906) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 93mustangt:
i have a question guys. i was going to try and find a 351 roller block.Are the other 351 blocks flattappet or solid roller? i beleive they are flat tappet. i will be driving this car on the street so i want it reliable. can i do that with a flat tappet?
351 roller blocks from I learned are somewhat rare. you would either have to go aftermarket which is expensive, or find one from a late model bronco, saleen, etc. etc. there is absolutely nothing wrong with flat tappet valvetrains -they are very reliable, relatively inexpensive, and if they are hydraulic -very low mainetenance. roller lifters are reusable, and generally speaking, they usually put out better results. and yes they are reliable as well. if you go roller -go solid.
 
Posted by 93mustangt (Member # 680) on :
 
THANKS FOR THE REPLIES GUYS. THIS IS AN EVERYDAY DRIVER SO RELIABLITY IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE. IS A FLAT TAPPET MORE EXPENSIVE TO BUILD? OR WOULD A ROLLER?
 
Posted by Chosen1 (Member # 1906) on :
 
hydraulic flat tappet = cheap as fuck!

they are equally reliable for a daily driver. naturally a roller setup is superior performance wise, and more expensive, but you can get a cam and lifter kit from summit for under $80. and they work just fine and are very reliable.
 
Posted by cheap (Member # 858) on :
 
PAW has a cam and lifter kit that closely resembles a B-cam for $99. Part # 10326. It's what Im gonna be putting in my 351 hyd flat-tappet block tomorrow. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by shade- (Member # 298) on :
 
'69 is the year to get for the 351. I almost bought a cougar (non running) simply because it had a 351. should have bought it in hindsight (very cheap, non running)
 
Posted by 93mustangt (Member # 680) on :
 
Thanks for the responses. my biggest question is what harnesses/ electronics will i need for the swap? would i need more harnesses/ electronics if i were to use a flat tappet engine as apposed to a roller engine? i need everyone response because i want to do this as cheap and as smooth as it can be.
 
Posted by 93mustangt (Member # 680) on :
 
ttt
 
Posted by 66 AC COBRA of CA PERFORMANCE (Member # 904) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 93mustangt:
Thanks for the responses. my biggest question is what harnesses/ electronics will i need for the swap? would i need more harnesses/ electronics if i were to use a flat tappet engine as apposed to a roller engine? i need everyone response because i want to do this as cheap and as smooth as it can be.
no, i had a lightning motor (roller block, b ut came with a flat tappet cam) in a 88 coupe, it was just like hookin up a 5.0
 
Posted by 93mustangt (Member # 680) on :
 
would i have any computer/ tuning problems with a flat tappet block?
 
Posted by Chosen1 (Member # 1906) on :
 
no. make sure you get the right distributor gear. there are already several posts in the tech section that address distributor gear choice.

[ October 16, 2003, 12:14 PM: Message edited by: Chosen1 ]
 
Posted by 04ParksRider (Member # 786) on :
 
http://www.californiafords.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=012278
Comes with all internals, cam, lifters, and oil pan...
Willing to negotiate, pm me if interested [patriot]

[ October 16, 2003, 09:55 PM: Message edited by: 04ParksRider ]
 
Posted by 93mustangt (Member # 680) on :
 
SORRY MAN I CAN GET THE WHOLE LONG BLOCK FOR CHEAPER THAN THAT. THANKS ANYWAYS
 
Posted by Chosen1 (Member # 1906) on :
 
Performance Engine & Products in Long Beach sells a 351W Shortblock (2 piece seal) with forged pistons for $752.00. They also sell one with a 1 piece seal for $771. Im looking at the ad right now.

6110 Paramount Blvd
Long Beach, CA 90805
888-770-4888

You wont find anything "less expensive"
 
Posted by 93mustangt (Member # 680) on :
 
where are you looking at that ad? do they have a website.
 
Posted by street_illegal_stang (Member # 1554) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Chosen1:
Performance Engine & Products in Long Beach sells a 351W Shortblock (2 piece seal) with forged pistons for $752.00. They also sell one with a 1 piece seal for $771. Im looking at the ad right now.

6110 Paramount Blvd
Long Beach, CA 90805
888-770-4888

You wont find anything "less expensive"
holy shit thats fugin awesome man
do you recall ifs roller or solid?year?
and does it already come assembled?
are they any good?
 
Posted by Chosen1 (Member # 1906) on :
 
Yes it is already assembled. I dont know about the quality, but for less than $800, you have a 351 shortblock. If something goes wrong you already have a block, crank, and pistons. My buddy bought a similar 351 from Larry's Performance in Montabello for $900, put some GT40's on it and went mid-high 13's in a 69 Mach 1. Just give them a call.
 




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