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Posted by msj484 (Member # 1341) on :
 
hello all.

it is time for me a get another mod. i want something new in the stang. i would like either headers or 3.73 gears, and i am not sure which to get.

if i get headers i want to still stay smog legal, and still use the parts that are on my exaust system now. that is my flows and my vrs x-pipe. i am not sure if that is possible. can you please give me your suggestions and feedback? thankx for ur time.
 

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Posted by 91sleeper (Member # 779) on :
 
Getting headers will be cheaper but gears will defnatley be more benefical. You will notice the gears a lot more than the headers.
 

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Posted by castor (Member # 2765) on :
 
gears
 

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Posted by 91PONY (Member # 206) on :
 
Get gears! Note that the total cost of gears and install will be around $400...unless you find them used.
 

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Posted by 67stang12s (Member # 2314) on :
 
do u have a stick or auto? if u have an auto get the headers just because gears arent fun unless you have a stall but if u have a stick go get gears but me personally i would 4.10s since they cost the same and i rarely drive on the highway
any other mods?
otherwise i say save up your money for something else? HCI
 

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Posted by sharkattack (Member # 645) on :
 
gears
 

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Posted by 91sleeper (Member # 779) on :
 

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Originally posted by 67stang12s: do u have a stick or auto? if u have an auto get the headers just because gears arent fun unless you have a stall but if u have a stick go get gears but me personally i would 4.10s since they cost the same and i rarely drive on the highway
any other mods?
otherwise i say save up your money for something else? HCI

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I have an auto without a stall and gears are fun as hell. Headers did absolutley nothing for my car that I could feel anyways. Gears actually made my auto move quicker after I got rid of those 2.73's which most of them came with.
 

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Posted by Jdub07 (Member # 2728) on :
 
gears nothing lower than 373's I have 355 and am ready for something higher. Don't get me wrong I love my 355's and could feel the difference like night and day!

I already had fms shorties on my car when I bought it...but I think I would have gone headers first before gears. Mainly because of cost reasons.

When I bought my car the first things I bought were 76mm maf and gears
 

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Posted by Black94 5.0 (Member # 655) on :
 
Gears are one of the best bangs for bucks...

Shortie headers on a stock heads and cam 302 will not do much(5-7hp)...When I installed my headers I was disapointed...If you already have an X pipe I dont think that the exhaust is too restrictive (yet)...

GEARS! .....
 

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Posted by Sidewayzisbest (Member # 3403) on :
 
Gears most definently


I just installed some mac longtubes which were a pita especially since they came off afr heads to my stock ones....ehhh....
 

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Posted by BOUNTY HUNTER VERT (Member # 2754) on :
 
auto 410s stick 373s the headers wont do much compared to the gears
 

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Posted by Red97SVT (Member # 2811) on :
 
If you are serious about this car, then get the gears. BUT, you should wait unit you have about $500 more.

Then get a better diff. I think a 31 spline Auborn is about $300, 31 spline axles are $100 or so then another $100 for bearings and such. The benefit of doing it all at once is labor should cost about the same to do it all or just the gears. If you have the parts done seperatly it would cost about $1000 more and you would still have 28 spline axles.

Any way, get the gears....
 

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Posted by SlowFiveOh94 (Member # 2404) on :
 
I put headers on my car a while back and it didnt do a damn thing....I wish I went with gears, but those are still on the list for sure.
 

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Posted by 91sleeper (Member # 779) on :
 

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Originally posted by SlowFiveOh94:
I put headers on my car a while back and it didnt do a damn thing....I wish I went with gears, but those are still on the list for sure.

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Shortys or Equal Length Headers on the 94 up's don't really do to much for performance. You gotta go with the LT's!!!
 

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Posted by 91 5.0 (Member # 1527) on :
 

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Originally posted by Red97SVT:
If you are serious about this car, then get the gears. BUT, you should wait unit you have about $500 more.

Then get a better diff. I think a 31 spline Auborn is about $300, 31 spline axles are $100 or so then another $100 for bearings and such. The benefit of doing it all at once is labor should cost about the same to do it all or just the gears. If you have the parts done seperatly it would cost about $1000 more and you would still have 28 spline axles.

Any way, get the gears....

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Shit, you might as well just get a 9" with a locker if youre gonna do all that.
 

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Posted by 91 5.0 (Member # 1527) on :
 
Get the gears. You wont even feel a difference if you get the headers.
 

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Posted by msj484 (Member # 1341) on :
 
thankx soo much all.

so far with u i have:

vrs catted x-pipe
87mm c&l mass air
mac cold air kit from fender to the throttle body
70mm polished throttle body
3.5 inch exaust tips
flow master
venom super chip
um... it think that is it.

now that everyone said gears i will go get 3.73's. i drive my car everyday somewhere, so i dont really wanna go wit 4.10's. i like puttin my car in 4th on the freeway and takin off, i can still do that with 3.73's. right?
 

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Posted by 91PONY (Member # 206) on :
 

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Originally posted by msj484:
thankx soo much all.

so far with u i have:

vrs catted x-pipe
87mm c&l mass air
mac cold air kit from fender to the throttle body
70mm polished throttle body
3.5 inch exaust tips
flow master
venom super chip
um... it think that is it.

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87mm mass air?? That's huge! What size injectors do you have?
 

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Posted by msj484 (Member # 1341) on :
 
lol only 19, should i get bigger ones?
 

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Posted by cobraman_1994 (Member # 467) on :
 
get 3.90's.
and whats with the maf? is that a typo?
 

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Posted by msj484 (Member # 1341) on :
 
lol. i thought that 3.90's are not good for the freeway. and the 87mm mass air meter tube i guess it is called. its like a silver peice that is about 6 inches long. it is between my cold air kit. i installed all this stuff, just knowin it would make a difference and it did. the mass air might be a 80mm. but i am pretty sure it is 87mm made by c&l.
 

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Posted by 91PONY (Member # 206) on :
 

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Originally posted by msj484:
lol. i thought that 3.90's are not good for the freeway. and the 87mm mass air meter tube i guess it is called. its like a silver peice that is about 6 inches long. it is between my cold air kit. i installed all this stuff, just knowin it would make a difference and it did. the mass air might be a 80mm. but i am pretty sure it is 87mm made by c&l.

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Your mass air meter needs to be calibrated for the size injectors you have. For example, I have a 75mm mass air and it is calibrated for my 24# injectors.
 

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Posted by msj484 (Member # 1341) on :
 
hello,

i understand that. when i got the 87mm mass air, it was used. so i had to order the little tube for my 19 injectors. will bigger injectors help? will it use more gass. i still need help on which gears to get? i think i will get 3.73 since i drive all the time, and race on the freeway. where is a good place inthe bay area to buy gears and get them installed?
 

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Posted by 91PONY (Member # 206) on :
 
I guess I don't understand why you have such a huge mass air meter.


I went from 2:73 gears to 3:73 gears and it was a huge difference. You'll like it.
 

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Posted by cobraman_1994 (Member # 467) on :
 
3.90's are fine on gas mileage. your foot will have the biggest differencs on the gas mileage.
 

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Posted by msj484 (Member # 1341) on :
 
hello,

wut is the huge difference though? is it faster acceleration or what?
 

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Posted by Red97SVT (Member # 2811) on :
 

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Originally posted by msj484:
hello,

wut is the huge difference though? is it faster acceleration or what?

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