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Posted by BuffMUSTANG (Member # 3180) on :
 
Ok. I want to lower my car sometime in the near future. My friend had some Eibach Sportline lowering springs that we took off his car, so he doesn't need them any more, so he said i could have them. My question is... What else am i going to need to get for my car when i lower it? I want it to have a great ride. I dont go to the track often enough to go for a drag setup so what should i get? I dont have a lot of money, but if it's going to make a big difference in the ride quality then i will keep saving up untill i have enough money to do everything right... Thanks for any help....
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
If you are lowering your car you will have a worse than stock ride.
 
Posted by BuffMUSTANG (Member # 3180) on :
 
Worse than stock????? are you sure?? is this possible? If i get quality parts the ride should not be worse.... it might feel different, but it shouldn't feel worse than stock... maybe i dont know what i'm talking about but i dont want to spend a lot of money to have my car ride worse than it is now....
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
Lowering a car reduces the amount that the spring can compress, thus causing a worse ride. It will take turns better, but the ride will not be as good.
 
Posted by Primer GR40 (Member # 476) on :
 
If you want the best go with Griggs coilovers.
 
Posted by Red97SVT (Member # 2811) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Primer GR40:
If you want the best go with Griggs coilovers.

[worship] Griggs

The ride will be nearly as good as stock with a soft setting, then a few clicks on the Koni's and it will still ride better than lowering springs but will handle like you can only imagine.
[Big Grin]
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
Griggs = Keep on savin.................
 
Posted by Rev Happy (Member # 661) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Red97SVT

The ride will be nearly as good as stock

I disagree... I run Griggs coil-overs in front with 10 inch #350lb Griggs racing springs and on shitty roads, (which seem to be showing up more and more in Southern California) the car gets pretty violent... Yes, on a nicely paved road, my car has a nice ride, but streets like that are far and few between...(at least where I live) Coil-overs bring more noise too than conventional springs...

[ August 26, 2003, 01:42 PM: Message edited by: Rev Happy ]
 
Posted by DropTopFox (Member # 1689) on :
 
Your ride will be bumpier but that's what you get with lowering springs. You're handling will be a lot better. My opinion is go with the Spotlines and then get some CC plates from Maximum Motorsports and then you may need Steeda X2 Ball joints and their bump steer kit but I highly doubt it. Whatever you do don't cut the springs or then your ride will feel like absolute crap. Don't expect your ride to be more comfortable but expect it to handle better [patriot]
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DropTopFox:
Don't expect your ride to be more comfortable but expect it to handle better [patriot]

[patriot]
 
Posted by cegan (Member # 3185) on :
 
Keep saving, Griggs is the best, nothing esle compares
 
Posted by 1992 SILVER BULLET (Member # 2678) on :
 
I HAVE SPORTLINE SPRINGS ON MY CAR. YOU REALLY CAN'T COMPARE STOCK SPRINGS WITH SPRINGS THAT LOWER YOUR CAR 2 INCHES OR MORE. IF YOU WANT COMFORT, THEN STICK WITH THE STOCK SPRINGS. BUT IF YOU WANT PERFORMANCE HANDLING, THEN THE SPORTLINES, ARE A GREAT CHOICE, ESPECIALLY THAT THEIR FREE. [Wink]
 
Posted by Red97SVT (Member # 2811) on :
 
The Griggs will be closer to stock than just adding springs. Don't get me wrong you will feel the bumps, but it is more like the road is coomunicating with you. Iv'e ridden in lowered cars that jar you over every bump. You still feel it with the Griggs, but you feel it rather than have your fillings knocked out.
 
Posted by HungryHippo (Member # 537) on :
 
just use the springs and get some tokico blue shocks/struts that go for about $300
 
Posted by Cobra 427 (Member # 755) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BuffMUSTANG:
Ok. I want to lower my car sometime in the near future. My friend had some Eibach Sportline lowering springs that we took off his car, so he doesn't need them any more, so he said i could have them.

Eibach make some very good springs. Given the price ($free), you may want to seriously consider them.

quote:
My question is... What else am i going to need to get for my car when i lower it? I want it to have a great ride. I dont go to the track often enough to go for a drag setup so what should i get?
1. Better shocks. Lowering springs put a great load on your shocks, so if you really want to replace the shocks when you install new springs.
2. Caster/Camber plates. There is really no way to dial in an accurate alignment on a lowered Mustang without C/C plates.

quote:
I dont have a lot of money, but if it's going to make a big difference in the ride quality then i will keep saving up untill i have enough money to do everything right... Thanks for any help....
Well, this contradicts your subject line. If you don’t have “a lot of money”, then I don’t suggest you look a coil-overs, etc… If you get the Eibachs from your friend, then you just need some shocks (Tokico’s are probably the best bang for the buck) and a set of C/C plates (and an alignment). This would be a good, not great, set-up that is economical.

If you really want the best, then there’s no substitute for Grigg’s coil-overs and Koni DA shocks. And if you’re gonna go down that route, then you’ll want rear control arms and subframe connectors. This set-up will set you back over $1000, but there’s no substitute for the best.

Another alternative is to buy the Bullitt suspension set-up, but honestly, this will probably feel the same as the Eibachs with Tokico shocks.

Hope this helps,
Randy R…

[ August 27, 2003, 08:38 AM: Message edited by: Cobra 427 ]
 
Posted by xcessive50 (Member # 2995) on :
 
If your shocks/struts are shot,your car will ride like shit even with the stock springs,so dont under estimate the importance of a good set. i've ridden in a 89 gt with the sportlines and stock shocks/struts and it did feel pretty shitty,but after a new set of hi performance shocks/struts were installed that can handle the increased spring rate,the ride was WAY better. Yes,it will be a bit firmer,which in my opinion IS better than stock . Oh and yes, c/c plates are needed for proper alignment [burnout]
 
Posted by hidnn.o.s. (Member # 1219) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by xcessive50:
yes, c/c plates are needed for proper alignment [burnout]

Not always needed at all.
 
Posted by cegan (Member # 3185) on :
 
Nothing is better then the feeling you get when you have a car that handles better then anything else out there, and as far as the stiff ride with Griggs, when you see car's in your rearview mirror you left behind - it is all worth it.

95 GT with Griggs, and I mean complete Griggs.... [worship]
 
Posted by Black94 5.0 (Member # 655) on :
 
Dont put the Sportlines in your car...They reduce suspension travel too much...2+" drop is too much for a perfomance improvement, especially on the street...

You will be happy with a set of Eibach's Pro-Kit or some H&R's and a good set of shocks/struts...

I prefer Maximum Motorsports over Griggs....Coil-overs would be the best way to go, but they're expensive... [patriot]
 
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