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Posted by 91 5.0 (Member # 1527) on :
 
What will this combo make?

91 red lx 5.0


AIR DELIVERY

Trick Flow track heat intake
Vortech S-trim supercharger w/2.62" pulley-~12 psi.
Pro-M mass air meter calibrated for 30lb injectors
FMS E-303 cam
FMS 1.72 roller rocker arms.
Mac long tube headers with off road H-pipe
2 chamber flowmasters

FUEL DELIVERY

255lph intank walbro fuel pump
BBK inline high volume fuel pump (not installed) Should I install this before coming for the tune?
FMU calibrated for 30lb injectors
30lb injectors
BBK adjustable fuel pressure regulator

MISCELLANEOUS

Fluidyne aluminum radiator
Dual 12" electric flex-a-lite fans with adjustable temp set point.
BBK aluminum clutch quadrant and firewall adjuster.
8.5 mm MSD ignition spark plug wires
180 thermostat


Thanks for your input!!
 

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Posted by shade- (Member # 298) on :
 
if you hadn't said 'red lx' I would've gone with a different answer. Now I just don't know!

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stock heads? I dunno, 330 ish rwhp, depending on how you pulley/tune it.

[ July 30, 2003, 03:04 PM: Message edited by: shade- ]
 

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Posted by 91 5.0 (Member # 1527) on :
 
lol. I didnt mean to put that there. It does have stock heads, slightly ported. Its got a 2.62 pulley. Should peak around 12-13psi. Ive seen 10 psi at 5400 RPM, but thats the highest ive revved it so far. It'll be tuned by Byron at Apex.
 

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Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :
 
Personally, I wouldn't waste my time unless I had a set of decent heads to go along with the combo.

Putting all of this together and expecting alot out of it is like going to Mickey D's and thinking you're gonna get a really great burger!
 

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Posted by 91 5.0 (Member # 1527) on :
 
Im not expecting alot. The only reason im going is because it keeps blowing head gaskets. I just want it to run right.
 

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Posted by JohnB (Member # 969) on :
 
After the first blown head gasket, did you check the head to ensure it wasn't warped? Recreational head gasket changes suck!!
I'm pushing 10+ on my 93...and have yet to blow one. That's with the stock block and ported GT-40's. 24lb inj's, and a matching FMU.
 

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Posted by 91 5.0 (Member # 1527) on :
 

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Originally posted by JohnB:
After the first blown head gasket, did you check the head to ensure it wasn't warped? Recreational head gasket changes suck!!
I'm pushing 10+ on my 93...and have yet to blow one. That's with the stock block and ported GT-40's. 24lb inj's, and a matching FMU.

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Yeah, I got the heads decked, they were warped. I used graphite fel pro gaskets that are supposed to be really good. This time its gettin tuned before I drive it though. Im tired of changing HG's.
 

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Posted by st5150 (Member # 51) on :
 
I agree with the 330 number, but I wouldn't be surprised if it made a bit more...... so 320-350 is my guess
 

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Posted by PurpleNotch (Member # 2902) on :
 
Byron is the man when it comes to tuning also his buddy named joe is also the man they tuned my car recently and they got that thing running 100% better with that combo you said you will probably realisticly see around 300-350rwhp because the main thing is the heads, the inj. are a little small for boost levels above 400 horespower too, also install that fuel pump you will need it as the boost level increases.. Byron will fix all that with a chip if you dont have one get one! it makes a big difference. Good luck with the tuning
 

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Posted by 93lx342 (Member # 1793) on :
 
i'd say 375-400 rwhp.
 

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Posted by 93lx342 (Member # 1793) on :
 
1sicklx is makin enough power to go 11.70@118 with less motor and less boost.

[ July 30, 2003, 08:42 PM: Message edited by: 93lx342 ]
 

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Posted by Black94 5.0 (Member # 655) on :
 
That motor NA should run around 240-250 rwhp, Im guessing the S-trim will add about 80rwhp...

330rwhp

Good luck with what ever you hit...
 

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Posted by shade- (Member # 298) on :
 

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Originally posted by 93lx342:
1sicklx is makin enough power to go 11.70@118 with less motor and less boost.

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Originally posted by Black94 5.0:
That motor NA should run around 240-250 rwhp, Im guessing the S-trim will add about 80rwhp...

330rwhp

Good luck with what ever you hit...

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Only 80 hp from 12psi????????
 

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Posted by 2fstfru (Member # 453) on :
 
I would say 350 rwhp.
 

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Posted by 93lx342 (Member # 1793) on :
 
shade: i'm pretty sure it is a stock bottom end with gt-40 iron heads,stock cam,and maybe a cobra intake and 10 lbs.his brother has a gt with stock ported heads,500 ish lift lunati cam, stock ported intake,100 shot and made 270+ rwhp motor and 370 ish rwhp bottle.ran 11.70 @117.
 

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Posted by 91 5.0 (Member # 1527) on :
 
With 10psi, it only made 270rwhp with GT 40 heads???? Remind me to never run that combo. If my car doesnt put at least 330 to the wheels, I'll be pissed.
 

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Posted by 93lx342 (Member # 1793) on :
 
the gt-40 headed, novi 2000 10 psi combo makes 370-380rwhp and runs 11.70-11.80 @118.the stock ported head,intake,small cam combo made 270 rwhp n/a and 370rwhp and 450 ft lbs on a 100 shot nitrous in a bag compu car kit.stock ported combo went mid 12's @107 n/a and 11.70's on 100 shot.
 

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Posted by Jeff S (Member # 371) on :
 

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Originally posted by shade-:

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Originally posted by 93lx342:
1sicklx is makin enough power to go 11.70@118 with less motor and less boost.

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you sure? I thought he had heads/cam/intake + S-trim+ full exhaust + gears + ET Drags ?

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Originally posted by 91 5.0:
What will this combo make?

91 red lx 5.0


AIR DELIVERY

Trick Flow track heat intake
Vortech S-trim supercharger w/2.62" pulley-~12 psi.


Thanks for your input!!

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Originally posted by 91 5.0:
So I should be good for at least 330 to the rear, in your opinion, right?

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Originally posted by Jeff S:
He has out of the box GT40 heads, which flow less then even decently ported stock heads, a stock cobra cam, a GT40 intake, and 10psi.

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I'm pretty sure I was told the E or B cam. Anyways,

[ July 31, 2003, 03:54 PM: Message edited by: shade- ]
 

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Posted by 91 5.0 (Member # 1527) on :
 
No, it was making 10 psi at 5400 RPM with alot of valve float. Im gettin new springs so it should be all good. Bill said he thought it would make over 400rwhp, we'll see though. I only expected ~350, so ill be VERY happy if it does.
 

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Posted by 91 5.0 (Member # 1527) on :
 
...and you dont think 30lb injectors will support 400rwhp with an FMU, 65+ Psi fuel pressure?
 

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Posted by Jeff S (Member # 371) on :
 

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Originally posted by 91 5.0:
...and you dont think 30lb injectors will support 400rwhp with an FMU, 65+ Psi fuel pressure?

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Originally posted by shade-:

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Originally posted by 93lx342:
1sicklx is makin enough power to go 11.70@118 with less motor and less boost.

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you sure? I thought he had heads/cam/intake + S-trim+ full exhaust + gears + ET Drags ?

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He has out of the box GT40 heads, which flow less then even decently ported stock heads, a stock cobra cam, a GT40 intake, and 10psi.

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jeff is on the money...
 

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Posted by onesicklx (Member # 285) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jeff S:

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Originally posted by shade-:

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Originally posted by 93lx342:
1sicklx is makin enough power to go 11.70@118 with less motor and less boost.

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you sure? I thought he had heads/cam/intake + S-trim+ full exhaust + gears + ET Drags ?

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He has out of the box GT40 heads, which flow less then even decently ported stock heads, a stock cobra cam, a GT40 intake, and 10psi.

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jeff is on the money...
 

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Posted by onesicklx (Member # 285) on :
 

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Originally posted by 93lx342:
the gt-40 headed, novi 2000 10 psi combo makes 370-380rwhp and runs 11.70-11.80 @118.the stock ported head,intake,small cam combo made 270 rwhp n/a and 370rwhp and 450 ft lbs on a 100 shot nitrous in a bag compu car kit.stock ported combo went mid 12's @107 n/a and 11.70's on 100 shot.

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my brother's car is very impressive for the amount of money hes dump in the car...11.70 et on a 100 shot...can't wait to c a 200 of nos...
 

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Posted by 5.0#4 87 T-Top GT (Member # 1534) on :
 
your shit won't blow head gaskets because it isn't tuned right unless it has some kind of overheating problem.
 

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Posted by Jeff S (Member # 371) on :
 
Who here thinks that throwing a car on a dyno for 3-5 pulls = tuned "right"?
 

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Posted by 91 5.0 (Member # 1527) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jeff S:
Who here thinks that throwing a car on a dyno for 3-5 pulls = tuned "right"?

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Originally posted by 5.0#4 87 T-Top GT:
your shit won't blow head gaskets because it isn't tuned right unless it has some kind of overheating problem.

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So youre saying detonation wont cause a head gasket to blow? Im gonna have to disagree with you there.
 

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